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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions Status: Not Logged In; Sign In BANNED AT LIBERTYPOST See other BANNED AT LIBERTYPOST Articles Goldi banned censored delete elpee Title: OFFER TO (PARTLY) TAKE OVER LP RECEIVED Source: LibertyPost URL Source: http://libertypost.net/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=350039&Disp=1#C1 Published: Jan 9, 2015 Author: sysadmin Post Date: 2015-01-09 19:40:45 by Murron Keywords: None Views: 80688 Comments: 168 I have received the following email from tpaine, who has offered to take over financial responsibility for LP but is not interested in moderating the site. Be aware that moderation implies control over content and a moderator may also be the target of litigation. (Lawyers tend to latch onto anyone even remotely involved in a situation to see what will stick.) Feel free to discuss this and at the end we would need to take a vote of active posters in good standing. If the site ownership is turned over to tpaine I would end my moderation of the site and cancel the plans to move it to my own server. Message follows: "At this time I would like to make a formal offer to pay the bill for hosting and domain registration, and to assume the liability for lawsuits, -- As 'the owner'. --- However, I have no interest in moderating the site and would hope that someone who could get the approval of at least 75% of the currently active members would take on that job. I would also hope that the site could retain the services of someone like Neil McIver to deal with tech issues. Please post this on the site, seeing that you refuse to allow me to post comments." Poster Comment: I'll bet this will wipe that smug look off Gatlins face....LOL Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 123. #4. To: Murron (#0) Palmhair wants to resign. That's a good sign. LOL Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-09   21:25:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Fred Mertz, Murron (#4) Palmhair wants to resign. He just fell on his sword. Oh, the humanity! libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...ArtNum=350039&Disp=48#C48 #48. To: sysadmin, Gatlin (#44) Immediately, please. Palmdale posted on 2015-01-09 Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-09   21:38:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: hondo68 (#5) Eddie Haskell takes a dive for the team. #54. To: sysadmin, SOD, Palmdale (#47) Same for me. Once new ownership is established please redact all of my info and close my account. Same for me too. Once NEW ownership is established, please immediately redact all of my info and close my account. I'm finished with this for now. It's just another cluster f**k created by tpaine. I will check back at some time in the future. If I can sign in, then I will know the site is still in good hands. If not, then I wish you well. Gatlin posted on 2015-01-09 21:42:03 ET Reply Trace Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-09   22:00:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: All (#11) I will check back at some time in the future. If I can sign in, then I will know the site is still in good hands. You don't need to sign in to read things, tater. And 2konservative is a narc. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-09   22:09:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Fred Mertz (#12) And 2konservative is a narc. I know I was recently surprised to discover what a big narc I am. Quite a shock. Better jump back in over at LP, Fred. You gotta vote, eh? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-09   22:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: TooConservative (#13) I hope elPee survives. I might be a wise guy, but I'm not hateful. Go look up tpaine on FR...he's been posting for at least 18 years. He didn't deserved to be banned on elPee. sysadmin is well intentioned and is doing well keeping the flame lit. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-09   22:17:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Fred Mertz (#14) How does sysadmin know we're jackasses? Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-09   22:24:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Biff Tannen (#16) How does sysadmin know we're jackasses? Maybe his toady, gatlin, ratted us out? LOL..ahahaaaa Hi Biff! Murron  posted on  2015-01-09   23:02:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Murron (#19) How does sysadmin know we're jackasses? Literacy? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-09   23:06:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: TooConservative (#21) (Edited) Literacy? That's true, literacy is important, but just as important as literacy is, so is comprehension. Not everyone can bring up the words for how they feel in the way another would choose, but if you have a fare amount of comprehension then you will know what they are trying to say. I don't always say things the way they should be said, but they are true, and they come from my heart. Murron  posted on  2015-01-09   23:30:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Murron (#26) I was just poking fun, not serious. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-09   23:34:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: TooConservative (#27) I was just poking fun, not serious. I knew that..hehee Murron  posted on  2015-01-09   23:40:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Murron (#28) #112. To: sysadmin (#111) email me at PericlesDestro at America Online dot com Pericles posted on 2015-01-10 #119. To: All (#0) I have received a confirmation email from Pericles that he would like to be considered as a potential new owner. He stated in his original comment that he would also act as moderator. Therefore as it stands now the vote will be between, tpaine, Pericles, and keeping the status quo. (I am not acquainted with Pericles but note that Goldi had no negative comments about him in the user database.) Tpaine has stated a requirement for 75% of the vote to take over. If that is not achieved, we can decide between the remaining choices based on the highest number of remaining votes, or have a runoff. sysadmin posted on 2015-01-10 Now the vote will be a choice between tpaine, and PericlesDestro. Yikes! tpaine is shining like a dime on a goats ass, compared to Destro. Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   0:34:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: hondo68 (#29) I thought Destro posted over here with war until both got banned by Stone. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   0:44:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: TooConservative (#30) I thought Destro posted over here with war until both got banned by Stone. Neither were banned. I offended war by asking if his mother was the missing link. Destro/Godwinson got pissed and said this was a racist site. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-10   10:26:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative, nolu chan, Fred Mertz, Biff Tannen (#39) libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...?ArtNum=25388&Disp=35#C35 I said it a million times, my thinking is framed by European style Christian Democratic/Social Market ideology which is the dominant conservative ideology both in terms of party membership and geographic spread around the world. Thank you Stone, the missing link.... Destro=Godwinson=Pericles. Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   11:03:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: hondo68 (#40) Thank you Stone, the missing link.... Destro=Godwinson=Pericles. Not sure but I think Destro stopped posting at TPF because the audience declined to a handful, plus it was a closed site - had to be registered to lurk. I think either tpaine or Pericles would be acceptable owners and moderators. Maybe they can let tpaine own and Destro moderate as a compromise solution. Like I said earlier, the place self-moderates quite nicely. I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   11:47:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: Fred Mertz (#41) I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did. It is bizarre, no? And tpaine managed to pull it off while suspended. Even better, they're probably wishing they hadn't opused over tpaine as owner since now they missed their chance to opus over Destro instead! LOL. Life is full of small regrets. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   13:39:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: TooConservative, fred mertz, Y'ALL (#44) Fred Mertz (#41) I find it difficult to believe that long time posters Palmhair and tater/Gatlin put their tails between their legs and scampered off like they did. It is bizarre, no? And tpaine managed to pull it off while suspended. --- TC I 'pulled off' nothing. The only logical reason for the clowns to scamper at the possibility of email disclosure, is that they were all connected personas, (which we've all suspected), but really, who cares? -- It's bizarre indeed. In any case, the vote is on over at LP, and odds are our anonymous sysadmin will 'win', which will be fine with me. I've made a legitimate offer, but without a volunteer moderator to actually run the site, I'd be in over my head. I think TooConservative would be ideal to be that moderator. If the anonosysadmin wins, I'd predict the site is dead within a year. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   14:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: tpaine (#47) tpaine, I voted for you, good luck. With some of the klan gone, it may be a lot more peaceful. Stoner  posted on  2015-01-10   15:17:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: Stoner (#53) tpaine, I voted for you, good luck. With some of the klan gone, it may be a lot more peaceful. Thanks for your support, but don't hold your breath for any 'peaceful ownership'. I'm willing ( but not eager) and I doubt it'll ever happen, -- as you can see by the vote to date. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   15:46:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: All (#56) sysadmin (#0) Just so you are aware. Tpaine is over at LF claming that you are rigging the game over here and your intentions are other than what you have stated. Beware of this guy in any sort of dealing. He is not all there. SOD Just so all you here at LF are aware. SOD is over at LF claming that I am claiming the game is being rigged over at LP and the sysadmin intentions are other than what he has staged. --- He's partially right, as per my comments since I started posting in here. Anyone that cares about this tempest in a teapot should read them. Beware of this guy in any sort of dealing. He is not all there. -- SOD As usual, the poor sod cautions us about his own traits. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   17:52:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: All, booshbot, Y'ALL, and LPs sysadmin (#57) From LP: --- Booshbot666 (#182) --- Please unban tpaine. sysadmin ---- Given the circumstances wherein tpain deliberately used this site in an attempt to challenge established copyright law, with yours truly shouldering the responsibility for any resulting litigation, I am not going to do that. The sysadmin used his legally debatable 'shouldering responsibility' as an excuse to ban me. However I am in email contact with tpaine and will relay all messages here, as I have been doing. Don't bother. I'm fully capable of reading posts at LP. If he wins then he will be able to post to his heart's content after the ownership transfer takes place. --- sysadmin It's now obvious I won't 'win', as the vote thread already shows close to 25 individual posters voting for either option #2,3,or 4. I made my offer contingent upon receiving a 75% approval from active members. -- You posted several days ago that LP had approx 90 active posters last month. -- I believe the membership has spoken, which is just fine with me. -- Frankly, without a moderator like TooConservative, I doubt I could have done a proper job anyway. Thanks to all who supported me, and don't give up the fight for rational moderation. Please, can someone repost this over at LP.. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   19:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #70. To: tpaine (#69) The vote will likely continue for days, perhaps a week. Lots of people don't check in for days at a time then check in to catch up on things, like on their day off. This idea that anyone can get 75% approval as owner (or mod) may have to be re-examined. No one who has been there long enough to be known is likely to pass muster. With a herd of cats like LP, you'd do well to get 65%. Or even 50%. sysadmin is getting some votes but that is mostly because no one has any idea of what his opinions are on anything. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-10   19:44:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: TooConservative, Y'ALL (#70) It's now obvious I won't 'win', as the vote thread already shows close to 25 individual posters voting for either option #2,3,or 4. I made my offer contingent upon receiving a 75% approval from active members. -- You posted several days ago that LP had approx 90 active posters last month. -- I believe the membership has spoken, which is just fine with me. -- Frankly, without a moderator like TooConservative, I doubt I could have done a proper job anyway. Thanks to all who supported me, and don't give up the fight for rational moderation. Please, can someone repost this over at LP.. The vote will likely continue for days, perhaps a week. Lots of people don't check in for days at a time then check in to catch up on things, like on their day off. ---- This idea that anyone can get 75% approval as owner (or mod) may have to be re- examined. The 75% approval 'idea' was a contingency of mine. I would not want to be the 'owner' of a site where over 25% of the members opposed my policies. I'd appreciate it if someone would repost this at LP. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   20:04:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #73. To: tpaine (#71) The 75% approval 'idea' was a contingency of mine. I would not want to be the 'owner' of a site where over 25% of the members opposed my policies. “Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust into them.” Biff Tannen  posted on  2015-01-10   20:42:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #75. To: Biff Tannen, tpaine, Fred Mertz (#73) (Edited) “Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust into them.” This is no time to go all wobbly like Ross Perot. Someone's got to bitch slap Gatlin, and it might as well be tpaine. Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-10   21:04:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #78. To: hondo68 (#75) Someone's got to bitch slap Gatlin, and it might as well be tpaine. Gatlin, misterwhite,palmdale,sod, -- have all bitch-slapped themselves by their overreaction to my possible ownership. They all have something to hide relating to their registration emails. -- I have no idea what it could be. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   21:13:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #88. To: tpaine (#78) Gatlin, misterwhite,palmdale,sod, -- have all bitch-slapped themselves by their overreaction to my possible ownership. They all have something to hide relating to their registration emails. -- I have no idea what it could be. After looking at that train wreck for a while a few things are clear: 1. You were not liked by many posters there. 2. Goldi-Lox called you a "pain in the ass" for refusing to honor your contribution commitment. 3. People do not trust you with their personal information 4. More people have requested a wipe of personal information than the ones you listed, making your statement a further example of your untrustworthiness. 5. You are on this site saying things behind sysadmin's back when you could have emailed them directly with your complaints & observations. 6. You were banned for intentionally violating serious rules at LP. Further making a case that you aren't trustworthy. LP members may not have something to hide as your conspiracy deduces, they just don't trust someone who does and says things listed above. It took a lot of work to find a place to sign up that wasn't peopled entirely by freaks or Republican Party hacks. I don't welcome you coming here bringing your petty nonsense. Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-10   21:37:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #90. To: Nexus6 (#88) It took a lot of work to find a place to sign up that wasn't peopled entirely by freaks or Republican Party hacks. You're the biggest asshole I've met in months. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #91. To: Fred Mertz (#90) You're the biggest asshole I've met in months. You are calling someone you don't know Adolf Hitler because he wanted to let everyone know if he was posting under a different name. Think of that for a second. You equated a man who started a war and genocide responsible for tens of millions of deaths to another who wanted to clarify a person's posting history. ...and I'm the asshole. Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-10   21:47:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #92. To: Nexus6 (#91) You are calling someone you don't know Adolf Hitler because he wanted to let everyone know if he was posting under a different name. Say that again. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   21:53:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #93. To: Fred Mertz (#92) You are calling someone you don't know Adolf Hitler because he wanted to let everyone know if {Pericles} was posting under a different name. Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-10   21:55:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #94. To: Nexus6 (#93) Everyone knew Pericles was a sock puppet for Destro and Godwinson. I've only posted under this moniker. I was calling sysadmin Adolph. He's a jerk. And I didn't realize it until this evening. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   21:59:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #95. To: Fred Mertz (#94) I know you were calling sysadmin Adolf Hitler. I said that. How you decide to call him Hitler for trying to determine Pericles' posting history and try and lock down that loony bin I will never know. Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-10   22:06:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #96. To: Nexus6 (#95) Why doesn't sysadmin allow tpaine to post over there? Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-10   22:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #97. To: Fred Mertz (#96) Why doesn't sysadmin allow tpaine to post over there? Because tpaine knowingly posted prohibited, copyrighted material that put sysadmin along with anyone else who potentially owned or operated LP at huge legal risk. Looks like sysadmin won't let him back because of that. I wouldn't either. This isn't worth losing my house in court. Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-10   22:15:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #101. To: Nexus6 (#97) tpaine knowingly posted prohibited, copyrighted material that put sysadmin along with anyone else who potentially owned or operated LP at huge legal risk. Both you and the sysadmin swallowed the gatlin groups bull. I have been posting full articles from the Volokh Conspiracy site for years because they had a policy of fair use for the purposes of discussion. They continued that policy when they moved to the Washbag, to the best of my knowledge. Perhaps that policy has changed, but to date the WP is NOT attempting to put anyone at 'huge legal risk'. Get a life. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-10   22:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #108. To: tpaine, Nexus6 (#101) I have been posting full articles from the Volokh Conspiracy site for years because they had a policy of fair use for the purposes of discussion. They continued that policy when they moved to the Washbag, to the best of my knowledge. I believe all content on WAPO falls under the WAPO policy. That now includes the Volokh Conspiracy blog content. The Fair Use exception generally does not include full articles. See the FR litigation which resulted in a $1M judgment in favor of the LA Times and Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ask-the-post/reprints-and-permissions/ How can I get professional reprints of, or permission to use, individual articles or videos? Go to http://www.washingtonpostreprints.com/ and complete the relevant forms. You may also e-mail wppermissions@parsintl.com or call 212.221.9595, ext. 210. Please include details about the content you are requesting (headline or url, date of publication) and how you intend to use that content, as well as your contact information. You generally do not need permission to post a link to content on washingtonpost.com or to embed videos using Post-provided embed codes. nolu chan  posted on  2015-01-11   11:02:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #110. To: nolu chan (#108) I believe all content on WAPO falls under the WAPO policy. That now includes the Volokh Conspiracy blog content. And I believe that that policy issue is still being challenged, both in the courts, and at sites like Volokh Conspiracy. The Fair Use exception generally does not include full articles. See the FR litigation which resulted in a $1M judgment in favor of the LA Times and Washington Post. The FR judgement was in part based upon the fact that FR is a commercial activity. JR was profiting from his policy. LP is not. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-11   11:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #114. To: tpaine, nolu chan (#110) (Edited) The Fair Use exception generally does not include full articles. I read a court ruling a while back. They said if you are not for profit you can post the entire article. I don't remember how high of a court ruled that. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-11   12:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #116. To: A K A Stone (#114) nolu chan (#110) (Edited) --- The Fair Use exception generally does not include full articles. I read a court ruling a while back. They said if you are not for profit you can post the entire article. I don't remember how high of a court ruled that. --- A K A Stone That's probably the court opinion I read too.. As I said, this issue is far from settled, and IMO, the sysadmin at LP just used it as an excuse to ban me. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-11   12:43:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #117. To: tpaine (#116) Just for my own memory's sake, didn't you post at FR way back when? I joined that place in Oct 1998 or close to that date. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-11   12:47:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #119. To: Fred Mertz (#117) Just for my own memory's sake, didn't you post at FR way back when? I joined that place in Oct 1998 or close to that date. I think I joined in Dec '98, -- or was it 97? Senility may be setting in. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-11   12:54:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #120. To: tpaine (#119) I did a quick search showing you were a FR member since Jan 20, 1998. www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266734/posts If you mouse-over your screen name you'll see it. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-11   13:16:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #121. To: Fred Mertz (#120) I think I joined in Dec '98, -- or was it 97? Senility may be setting in. I did a quick search showing you were a FR member since Jan 20, 1998. That's right, I got a webtv box for my birthday in Dec 97, lurked for awhile, then joined JR in his fight against the newspapers over posting articles in full. Here I am, still fighting that same good fight. tpaine  posted on  2015-01-11   13:28:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #122. To: tpaine, Fred Mertz, SOD (#121) #271. To: SOD, sysadmin, Pericles (#270) He addresses you as 'f**khead' and insults you on other websites. That's incorrect. Get it right, or STFU! It was not tpaine who said that. Booshbot666 posted on 2015-01-11 libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...tNum=350039&Disp=271#C271 SOD is lying his azz off, slandering you. Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-11   19:54:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #123. To: hondo68 (#122) (Edited) Yeah, I called sysadmin a f**khead. I was singing praise for him earlier. Thanks for clarifying my potty mouth. That stupid old drunk... Think I should ask sysadmin to let me back in to elPee? My timing is impeccable. Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-11   19:59:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 123. #125. To: Fred Mertz (#123) (Edited) I called sysadmin a f**khead. You sure know how to sweet talk 'em! Yes, it's the perfect moment to request reinstatement. /s Murron gave SOD&sysy hell too. Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-11 20:20:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 123. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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