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Title: Obamacare offers firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native-born workers
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The Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... sh-businesses-have-3000/print/
Published: Nov 25, 2014
Author: Stephen Dinan
Post Date: 2014-11-25 21:54:18 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 3390
Comments: 10
Obamacare offers firms $3,000 incentive to hire illegals over native-born workers Uses Obamacare fee to advance amnesty plan By Stephen Dinan Under the president's new amnesty, businesses will have a $3,000-per-employee incentive to hire illegal immigrants over native-born workers because of a quirk of Obamacare. President Obama's temporary amnesty, which lasts three years, declares up to 5 million illegal immigrants to be lawfully in the country and eligible for work permits, but it still deems them ineligible for public benefits such as buying insurance on Obamacare's health exchanges. Under the Affordable Care Act, that means businesses who hire them won't have to pay a penalty for not providing them health coverage — making them $3,000 more attractive than a similar native-born worker, whom the business by law would have to cover. The loophole was confirmed by congressional aides and drew condemnation from those who said it put illegal immigrants ahead of Americans in the job market. "If it is true that the president's actions give employers a $3,000 incentive to hire those who came here illegally, he has added insult to injury," said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican. "The president's actions would have just moved those who came here illegally to the front of the line, ahead of unemployed and underemployed Americans." A Department of Homeland Security official confirmed that the newly legalized immigrants won't have access to Obamacare, which opens up the loophole for employers looking to avoid the penalty. The Health and Human Services Department, which oversees Obamacare, referred questions to the White House, which didn't reply to a request for comment. But Mr. Obama, traveling in Chicago Tuesday to defend his immigration plans, said his moves would boost the economy and vowed they wouldn't hurt American workers' wages. "Immigrants are good for the economy. We keep on hearing that they're bad, but a report by my Council of Economic Advisers put out last week shows how the actions we're taking will grow our economy for everybody," he said. This isn't the first time the Obamacare loophole has popped up on immigration. The overhaul bill that passed the Senate on a bipartisan vote last year created the same situation, granting illegal immigrants a long probationary period where they could legally work but weren't eligible for public benefits such as Obamacare. At the time, Arizona Sen. John McCain, one of the bill's GOP authors, acknowledged the problem and vowed to change it before it became law. Despite passing the Senate, the bill has stalled, with Democratic leaders refusing to send it to the House for further action. Brian Rogers, a spokesman for Mr. McCain, said Tuesday the solution to the loophole is to get rid of Obamacare's employer mandate, "which would eliminate the incentive to hire people who are ineligible for Obamacare subsidies." Mr. Rogers said the Republican majority that takes control of Congress next year should vote on that proposal. Under Obamacare, businesses with 50 or more employees are supposed to provide insurance coverage to their full-time workers. If they refuse, they are assessed a penalty for every employee who receives subsidies to sign up for coverage on the health exchanges. But because the newly legalized illegal immigrants covered by Mr. Obama's order can't sign up for the exchanges or receive subsidies, employers aren't penalized for hiring them. Employers take notice Some employers have already taken notice, including one man who called into political strategist Dick Morris's radio show in Philadelphia over the weekend and said he's talked with his lawyers and plans to use the loophole as a way to reduce his Obamacare costs. "The dimensions of this problem are enormous. One wonders if any of Obama's crew spotted it during the run-up to his executive order. It is hard to imagine former President Clinton failing to notice such a conflict between his two major programs," Mr. Morris said in an op-ed Tuesday in The Hill, a Capitol Hill newspaper. The Obama administration has delayed the employer mandate penalty for some businesses, but it is slated to take full effect in a year. [snip]
The Washington Times
Updated: 9:32 p.m. on Tuesday, November 25, 2014
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#1. To: nolu chan, Jameson (#0)
Obama is only worried about getting enough votes from the illegals to keep his party in power forever. It doesn't matter that they can't get health care right now he will EO it to them later after they get all those jobs!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
This overlooks that the undeported illegal aliens will not be able to lawfully vote while they remain non-citizens. Representation is based on population, including non-citizens. The census is a head count of residents. Have five or ten million aliens in Dem states sign up for the census, where they otherwise might not, and their legal presence can shift more representatives to California, Illinois, and New York, etc., without an unlawful vote being cast.
So... do you have a problem with the "business owners" who will hire "illegals" over "Americans" just to put an extra $57 dollars a week into their pockets? Are you a business owner? what would YOU do?
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
I do run an engineering design firm. Let's see. Maybe I should hire an illegal that saves me 57 dollars a week so he she can cost me / society / taxpayer / my son ---let's say just to be super conservative on the number--- 200 dollars a week to support the illegals' 5 anchor babies for 14 years of either school or jail stints or some mix thereof. But yes of course----we all know evil business owners will grab that 57 dollar gold ring. being all 1%ers and such right? Don't you have some OWS organizing thing to go so you can learn creative che sash tying techniques and the latest eco-scented molotov mixtures on your next trip up seattle way?
------always bet on black------
Even though they don't have the right to vote I look for the Demonrats to start complaining about how "unfair" it is that they aren't allowed to vote. So it won't be too long before they try to pass some legislation giving them that right along with citizenship and all the other "perks" that come with it. I also expect enough dumb Pubbies will go along with it to get it done and on Obolos desk for a signature.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Lets see the country is 16 Trillion in debt, unemployment is right at 13% what do you think I should say? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
At 17,988,139,701,976.27, the debt is just sort of $18 Trillion.
Without doubt. I was just pointing out the effect on the census which determines the allocation of representatives among the states. When they can legally vote, politics in Texas should become fun to watch.
Yea the Democrats would love to change Texas from red to blue, that's what 38- 40 electoral votes?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
What's a trillion or 2 between friends.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
#2. To: CZ82, Jameson (#1)
Obama is only worried about getting enough votes from the illegals to keep his party in power forever.
#3. To: CZ82 (#1)
#4. To: Jameson (#3)
So... do you have a problem with the "business owners" who will hire "illegals" over "Americans" just to put an extra $57 dollars a week into their pockets?
#5. To: nolu chan (#2)
#6. To: Jameson (#3)
#7. To: CZ82 (#6)
Lets see the country is 16 Trillion in debt
#8. To: CZ82 (#5)
Even though they don't have the right to vote I look for the Demonrats to start complaining about how "unfair" it is that they aren't allowed to vote.
#9. To: nolu chan (#8)
When they can legally vote, politics in Texas should become fun to watch.
#10. To: nolu chan (#7)
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