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Title: Tipping Point: 50% of Americans reject the D&R terrorist party
Source: Ben Swann
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rfMbw-3e0
Published: Nov 20, 2014
Author: Ben Swann
Post Date: 2014-11-20 12:18:37 by Hondo68
Keywords: 50 percent of Americans, REJECT, Republicans and Democrats
Views: 19279
Comments: 53


Poster Comment:

We're up to half of all Americans being, pro-Liberty & pro-American!

God bless America, and a pox on the Republican and Democrat tyrants.

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#2. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#0)

How many people right here on Liberty's Flame are disgusted by both parties and want an option?

How many of you are willing, right here, right now, to commit to helping set up a NEW party that is explicitly not the Democrats OR the Republicans.

I am. Who else?

I propose a name, too: The "Christian Commonwealth" party. The party's moral code is overtly Christian, with all that that means (things like no abortion, no gay marriage, an aversion to violence). Just having "Christian" in the name itself acts as a nice filter to keep quite a few subversives out because of the horror of formally, and publicly, labeling themselves as "Christians".

"Commonwealth" points to the economic principles of the party. This is not a free trade capitalism party. It's not a socialist party. It's a party that believes generally that the purpose of organized economics is to provide for everybody within the realm. The best practical way to do that is through personal economic liberty, but personal economic liberty can swiftly turn into self-centered greed which is neither Christian nor aimed at improving the over all common wealth. Christian Republicans believe in a regulated free market economy with a strong social safety net and a comprehensive fair taxation system to pay for it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   13:25:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

Christian Republicans believe in a regulated free market economy with a strong social safety net and a comprehensive fair taxation system to pay for it.

How "strong" a "safety net" do you propose? What criteria? What do you consider "fair tax"? Do you endorse Amnesty, and if you do, whose obligation is it to finance it?

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   13:36:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#5)

How "strong" a "safety net" do you propose? What criteria? What do you consider "fair tax"? Do you endorse Amnesty, and if you do, whose obligation is it to finance it?

These are complicated things that would require a lot of ink to flesh out. And anyway, I suggesting we form a party, not that I should be the head of it. So I'll give you my view of your short questions in comparably short answers.

How strong? Very.

What criteria? Universal.

What is a "fair tax"? A tax which taxes each individual's total wealth at the same percentage as it taxes everybody else, and that is set at the level necessary to fund all levels of government with no deficit, and with a sufficient surplus to eventually pay off all government debt.

Regarding illegal aliens, the Border must be closed and guarded to stop the flow. Violent illegals need to be deported. Families of US citizens need to be regularized with green cards, but without a path to citizenship (no VOTE, ever). Employers who hire illegals need to be fined heavily, to remove all economic incentive for hiring them. Border patrols and welfare is financed by the regular government. Fines should be punitive and assist in defraying the costs.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   14:16:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

What is a "fair tax"? A tax which taxes each individual's total wealth at the same percentage as it taxes everybody else, and that is set at the level necessary to fund all levels of government with no deficit, and with a sufficient surplus to eventually pay off all government debt.

If we were starting from scratch you might have a good case and concept. It sure does appear you're supporting a strong Christian-Socialist state with heavy regs...

Regarding illegal aliens, the Border must be closed and guarded to stop the flow. Violent illegals need to be deported. Families of US citizens need to be regularized with green cards, but without a path to citizenship (no VOTE, ever). Employers who hire illegals need to be fined heavily, to remove all economic incentive for hiring them. Border patrols and welfare is financed by the regular government. Fines should be punitive and assist in defraying the costs.

I am thrilled to finally agree with you, 100% :-)

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   14:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#18)

If we were starting from scratch you might have a good case and concept. It sure does appear you're supporting a strong Christian-Socialist state with heavy regs...

A new party CAN start from scratch. That's the whole point. The Democrats and Republicans have delivered us a shit sandwich, and we're not even going to respect their TRADITIONS. We're radical revolutionaries, within the bounds of the Constitution, and we're going to walk right over status quo and tradition.

Example: We get control of a branch of Congress, and the Seniority rules are GONE. There's a party platform, a set of beliefs - if you drift from that and start following your own drummer, or the other side, you've betrayed what we stand for and what the people voted for, and we're going to throw you out of the coalition and out of your seats on committees.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   14:40:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#23) (Edited)

A new party CAN start from scratch. That's the whole point.

Gonna be hard to do with 1A gone, the 2A gone, the 4A gone, the 14A warped, and persecution of Christians and conservatives promoted and sanctioned by a tyrannical goobermint.

Example: We get control of a branch of Congress, and the Seniority rules are GONE. There's a party platform, a set of beliefs - if you drift from that and start following your own drummer, or the other side, you've betrayed what we stand for and what the people voted for, and we're going to throw you out of the coalition and out of your seats on committees.

The Conservatives of the GOP can't break the Rockefeller/GOPe hold of power and "leadership," yet you expect a brand new moralist party to waltz in and shake things up? Jefferson knew what it would take:

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   14:59:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: Liberator (#26)

The Conservatives of the GOP can't break the Rockefeller/GOPe hold of power and "leadership," yet you expect a brand new moralist party to waltz in and shake things up?

Yes I do. And I can tell you how too: the way the Jews did it and the way the Chinese are doing it: by relentlessly favoring only their own kind in all things - ESPECIALLY in everything having to do with economics, hiring and promotion.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20 16:43:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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