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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In U.S. Constitution See other U.S. Constitution Articles Title: Does John Boehner Believe That Perjury About Sex Is Worse Then Obama Acting Like A Dictator And Bypassing Congress To Make Law? Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Nov 20, 2014 Author: A K A Stone Post Date: 2014-11-20 12:04:21 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 3818 Comments: 14 House Speaker John Boehner seems to have taken impeachment off of the table. By Speaker Boehner not doing his job and bringing articles of impeachment against "President" Obama,. Who is clearly violating his oath of office via executive order on "amnesty" for foreign invaders. That would indicate that it is Speaker Boehners Position that when a President lies about cheating on his wife under oath. That it is a much more serious crime then ignoring the legislative body of the United States of America and acting on his own to make laws. That would make Boehner a party to this usurption wouldn't it? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) Stone, the Republicans are NOT GOING TO FIGHT. They are not going to fight because they want cheap, exploitable labor in America so that their alpha contributors don't have to pay Americans wages, and so that their cheap employees cannot sue them. No amount of raging at them is going to make any difference. They KNOW what you want, and they do not care any more than the Democrats do. You do not matter to the Democrat or Republican party, and you never, ever will. None of you will. You have no money, and therefore you are nobody as far as the Republicans are concerned. I presume that you oppose abortion, and therefore you are nobody as far as the Democrats are concerned. It is the end of the line for you, and me, and everybody else in our boat, if we think that the Republican Party is going to do anything effective to stop Obama. They may express outrage and tie up the government, but when it comes to using their full power, either by the Republican Supreme Court striking down Obama's actions, or by the Republican House forcing a permanent shutdown of the government and accepting a default on the national debt as the price to bring down a stubborn President, they will never do it. Nor will they impeach Obama. Not ever. If you want something done, you need to be at the forefront of forming a NEW party. Use your site as a place to start publicly organizing a NEW political party. The Republicans are never, ever, at no time, never, going to do what you think needs done. Their alphas don't agree with you, and therefore the politicians don't care. Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   13:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) Stone, the Republicans are NOT GOING TO FIGHT. You seem to paint with a very wide Brush. Ted Cruz will fight. Sessions will fight. Lee will fight. Amash will fight. Along with many more. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-11-20   13:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Vicomte13 (#1) f you want something done, you need to be at the forefront of forming a NEW party. Use your site as a place to start publicly organizing a NEW political party. The Republicans are never, ever, at no time, never, going to do what you think needs done. Their alphas don't agree with you, and therefore the politicians don't care. That is fine and dandy. But it isn't going to happen by me promoting it here. It will have to happen long term. Or the better idea since a lot of Republicans are actually against Obama. Is to take over the Republican party with Ted Cruz's and Mike Lee's. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-11-20   13:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: A K A Stone (#2) You seem to paint with a very wide Brush. Ted Cruz will fight. Sessions will fight. Lee will fight. Amash will fight. Along with many more. Ok, I'll revise my remarks: The Branch Davidian wing of the Republican Party will fight. And lose. And the Democrats will get their way again, as they have for the past 41 election cycles. Lather, Reince, repeat, as always. Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   14:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Vicomte13 (#4) Branch Davidian What do you mean by that? A K A Stone  posted on  2014-11-20   17:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: A K A Stone (#0) House Speaker John Boehner seems to have taken impeachment off of the table. Any 34 Dem senators do that. Impeachment followed by acquittal is a political loss. nolu chan  posted on  2014-11-20   17:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: A K A Stone (#5) Branch Davidian What do you mean by that? What I meant is to acknowledge that there are always SOME Republican politicians who will be firebrands and bitter-enders. But then, there are Democrats like that too. (Remember that Democrat Georgia Senator and former Governor who gave the address at W Bush's re-election convention?) There are always bitter-enders, who wall themselves into their political laager and fight to the death. And they always die, politically speaking. They "take a stand", "get out the word", "fight for their principles", "refuse to compromise"...and the broad back of the people do not rise to support them, do not move to meet them, do not form a new party around them, do not stop supporting the main powerbrokers. And so they sit there in their compound, like political Branch Davidians: separate, proud, fierce...and doomed. Eventually the political establishment destroys them, or simply builds a wall around them and moves on by. And then the mass of Republicans (or Democrats) turn on those people. In the Democrat Party, there was Joe Lieberman. He was well-liked in Connecticut, liberal on many things but conservative on some social views. He was the darling of the Democrats when he was Gore's running mate. But when Gore lost and the Democrats saw that they were not going to get any traction out of Joe, they walled him off. When he refused to abandon the War on Terror, they turned their backs on him. He won re-election in CT as an Independent, and then retired and drifted away into nothingness. On the Republican side, we have seen this happen with Palin, and we're watching it happen with Cruz and Bachmann. The Establishment of the Republican Party has the money and controls the apparatus and cannot be dislodged. You can't "take over" the British rule in the Americas - it's ALWAYS going to be ruled from London. You either accept that or you declare independence and make a new party and change all the rules. You and Liberator here, and Too Conservative and others over on LP, and others before that on FreeRepublic, have told me many times that third party politics are impossible, and that change must be done within the Republican Party. My reply is simple: that means surrender and defeat for your beliefs. That is what it means. The very best you can hope for is to have a little Branch Davidian compound in the Republican Party, and then the Republican Establishment will wall you off and burn you out. That's what I meant. You want to get what you want without a full on political revolution in which you actually have to go to war with and destroy your old allies, the Republicans. You do not think you can win without the Republican Party, and you won't turn on them. What that means is that you are ultimately sacrificing your ideals for party unity, because the party is not going to ever adopt your ideals, and will be sure to keep them down. And your people are never going to be in charge. If you want what you believe to be the law of the land, you have to declare independence, fight the political war and destroy the Republican Party. You don't believe it, and you won't do it. Which means you'll stay a Republican, and all of your ideals will be smothered by the Republican Party. The Republican Party serves the super-rich. They own its structures and pay the salaries of its clerks and administrators. It's politicians get their contributions from them and, more importantly, once they finish up in Washington, they get very high paying jobs in the companies whose interests they represented. That's the way it's been since 1868, and it's never going to change. You're never going to even come close to taking over that party. You ideas are going nowhere in the Republican camp. I've already made my choice: I'm out. Gone for good. When I read Republicans write that if I don't vote for the Republican I'm voting for Hillary, I retort, every time, if you don't leave the GOP you're voting for Hillary's ideas too - because the Republicans are never, ever going to implement your ideas. Until there's a new party that represents your ideals, the Democrats will continue to advance their agenda, and the Republican Party will serve its purpose of delaying things long enough for the super-rich Alphas to reposition themselves to profit from the new order of things. Lather, Reince, Repeat. To leave the Republican camp behind and recognize that the Republicans are, in truth, the enemy of everything you believe in, is hard. At the onset of the American Revolution a third of the populace didn't like the abuses of the British Crown but couldn't imagine separation. That's where conservatives sit. If they do gain some traction, then their sitting in the compound at Waco, waiting for the Establishment to napalm them. One need only look at the trajectory of Bachmann, Palin and now Cruz to see it. That's what I mean. Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-21   8:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: nolu chan (#6) Any 34 Dem senators do that. Impeachment followed by acquittal is a political loss. That's right. And that's why Obama has no fear of impeachment. Bill Clinton was impeached, and his party gained strength from it. Impeaching Obama is an empty gesture. If the Republicans feel the need to do it, fine, but he won't be removed, and he won't care. It will strengthen Obama's standing against the Republicans and make the Republicans look like wild-eyed nuts. The ONLY WAY to stop Obama on immigration is either for the Supreme Court to strike down what he does or to shut down the government and go all the way to national default. But the Supreme Court won't do it. Which means that a to-the-death shutdown is the only tool left. And the Republicans will never do that. Obama wins. Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-21   8:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Vicomte13 (#7) In the Democrat Party, there was Joe Lieberman. He was well-liked in Connecticut, liberal on many things but conservative on some social views. I just have to add that Joe Lieberman was always a piece of shit. He was wrong on everything. I never noticed anything conservative about him. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-11-21   8:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Vicomte13 (#8) That's right. And that's why Obama has no fear of impeachment. Bill Clinton was impeached, and his party gained strength from it. No they didn't. He was impeached in 1998. Then they lost the presidency and seats in the congress and senate. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-11-21   8:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: A K A Stone (#10) No they didn't. He was impeached in 1998. Then they lost the presidency and seats in the congress and senate. Au contraire. 1998 was a mid-term election. In every mid-term election for a century the President's party lost seats. But in 1998, after the Clinton impeachment, the Democrats GAINED 5 seats in the House. The Senate remained the same. And the Republicans lost a governorship. The effect of impeaching Clinton was to overturn 100 years of history. The impeached President's party GAINED seats in Congress. The out-of-power party ALWAYS gains a lot of seats across the board in a lame- duck's mid-term elections. Except in 1998. Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-21   9:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: A K A Stone (#0) Boner and the Republicrats are just worried that impeaching the cretin, boy- idiot would result in an uprising from the negroes that would make the mau mau uprising in Kenya look like a Sunday school picnic. IbJensen  posted on  2014-11-21   9:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: IbJensen (#12) If they think that they are dumber than they look. What is happening in Ferguson is being staged by those who don't even live there, the troublemakers are from out of town. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.” CZ82  posted on  2014-11-21   16:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: CZ82 (#13) Ogummy was busily on the phones, in his role as community organizer, getting the negroes riled up to stage an uprising in 83 U. S. cities. IbJensen  posted on  2014-11-22   7:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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