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Title: FLUSH: ‘Conservative Hero’ Ben Carson To Beck: You Have No Right To Semi-Automatic Weapons In Large Cities
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URL Source: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/conserva ... matic-weapons-in-large-cities/
Published: Nov 12, 2014
Author: Andrew Kirell
Post Date: 2014-11-12 12:32:26 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 41276
Comments: 99

Appearing on Glenn Beck‘s radio show this past week, Dr. Benjamin Carson took a vastly different stance from most conservatives on the issue of gun control, claiming you shouldn’t be able to own semi-automatic weapons in large cities.

Carson became a newfound conservative hero last month when he spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast and laid out a series of criticisms of ObamaCare, political correctness, and tax policy right in front of the president himself. Many called the speech “inappropriate” given the apolitical nature of the event, but many conservatives lauded Carson for his “bold” and “sensible” suggestions for policy reform.

Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.”

“I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated.

However, if you live “out in the country somewhere by yourself” and want to own a semi-automatic weapon, he added, “I’ve no problem with that.”

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Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.”

“I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated.

Cities can exert no exemption to the requirements of the Constitution.

For those who choose to blather about the militia, the militia includes virtually all men between the ages of 17 to 45, and female citizens in the National Guard. The right reserved by the people, and not delegated to the government, is reserved for all and not just members of the militia. As Madison shows in Federalist 46, the right is not reserved for the purpose of deer hunting but as a defense against an overreaching Federal government.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

10 U.S.C. §311

§311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Madison, Federalist 46, re the Militia

Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it.

nolu chan  posted on  2014-11-12   13:25:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"The right reserved by the people, and not delegated to the government, is reserved for all and not just members of the militia."

Words mean things. The second amendment does not say, "the right of all persons". It says the right of "the people".

Who were "the people"? At the time, they were the rich white men. The ones with someting to lose. The ones who wrote the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights to protect their interests.

Only "the people" could vote (Article I, Section 2), for example. And back then, those were the rich white men only. Only they had the right to vote, to assemble, petition the government, keep and bear arms, and be free from ubreasonable searches.

Now, who was in the militia back then? According to the Militia Act of 1792, only white adult male citizens. Not women. Not black slaves. Not children. Not non-citizens.

Therefore, not all persons. Only "the people". The second amendment protected their right to keep and bear arms as part of a militia. State constitutions protected the rights of other persons.

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=36575&Disp=5#C5

Only "the people" could vote (Article I, Section 2), for example. And back then, those were the rich white men only. Only they had the right to vote, to assemble, petition the government, keep and bear arms, and be free from ubreasonable searches.

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misterwhite posted on 2014-11-15 11:45:41 ET

9 Delaware 49-50, 51-52

[49] That Court has settled the principle that the Constitution of the United States has no relation to the right of voting in the States, except to secure that right against any denial or abridgement on account of race, color or previous condition of servitude.

The line of decisions on the construction of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments is clearly to the effect that the former has no relation to the right of suffrage, and the latter only that above indicated.

The first elaborate examination of the Fourteenth Amendment was in the Slanghter House cases, and it was then determined that citizenship of the State and of the United States are different, and depend on different characteristics and circumstances in the individual.

It was also expressly held that the privileges and immunities secured by the Fourteenth Amendment, are those belonging to citizenship of the United States, and not to that of the State.

Slaughter House cases, 16 Wall., 86, 74, 76.

Soon after the same Court decided that suffrage was not conferred by the Fourteenth Amendment; that the United States has no voters of its own creation, and that suffrage is not a privilege or immunity of citizenship of the United States, either originally or under the Fourteenth Amendment.

Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall., 162, 170, 173.

The same principle had been determined by Mr. Justice [50] Blatchford, before the last decision, in the Circuit Court of the United States at New York.

U. S. v. Anthony, 11 Blatchf., 200.

The words privileges and immunities had been long before accurately defined and their scope determined by Mr. Justice Washington, and his definition was approved and adopted by the Supreme Court in The Slaughter House cases, 16 Wall, at page 75, and the Court refers to its prior approval of the same in Ward v. The State of Maryland, 4 Wall, 430. The Court then clearly expressed the opinion that the Fourteenth Amendment did not add anything to the words "privileges and immunities" as contained in the original constitution. Judge Washington's characterization of these terms is in Garfield v. Coryell 4 Wash. C. C, 380.

In a later one of the same line of cases it was held that the Fifteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the U. S., does not confer the right of suffrage on any one. Its sole effect is to prevent the States from giving preference to one citizen over another on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

United States v. Reese, 92 U. S., 214, 217.

The right of suffrage is not a necessary attribute of national citizenship; but only exemption from discrimination in the exercise of that right on account of race, etc., is an attribute of national citizenship.

U S. Cruikshank, 92 U. S., 542, 556.

The right to vote comes from the States and has not been granted or secured by the Constitution of U. S. Ib., 556.

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[51] Under our existing laws every person having the right, has an equal opportunity to qualify himself to vote. If he fail to do [52] so, it is by his own neglect or omission, and his disfranchisement, if it occur, is voluntary.

State v. Hilmantel, 21 Wis., 574,578; State v. Bakw, 38 Wis., 71, 85, 87.

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