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Title: Anti-Military Anthem Played at ´Concert for Valor´
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URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... ayed-concert-valor_818921.html
Published: Nov 12, 2014
Author: Ethan Epstein
Post Date: 2014-11-12 04:11:33 by out damned spot
Keywords: Concert, “Fortunate Son”, Springsteen
Views: 11800
Comments: 39
Who would have thought that that Bruce Springsteen, Dave Grohl, and Zac Brown, accomplished musicians all, would be so, well, tone-deaf? But how else to explain their choice of song—Creedence Clearwater's famously anti-war anthem “Fortunate Son”—at the ostensibly pro-military “Concert for Valor” this evening on the National Mall? The song, not to put too fine a point on it, is an anti-war screed, taking shots at "the red white and blue." It was a particularly terrible choice given that Fortunate Son is, moreover, an anti-draft song, and this concert was largely organized to honor those who volunteered to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. On a musical level, “Fortunate Song” is not a bad song—that's one hell of a riff. But the “Concert for Valor,” a Veterans Day event sponsored by HBO and Starbucks, in front of the Capitol Building, was not the place for it.
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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)
You know what. I never liked Springstees music. It always bored me. Then when I learned he was basically a communist. He is worthless and a sad choice for this event.
He did a good job with it, IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g9wY9L-PwM Published on May 8, 2013 May 8, 1970 people of the United States stood by each other and protested the May 4th Kent State shootings. This instance and more of the time prompted John to write one of his classics "Fortunate Son." Hear the whole story behind this track above. Fortunate Son came out in 1969, during the Vietnam protest era. John Fogerty was drafted in 1965. In '69 he was a vet who opposed the war. There were a whole lot people who opposed the war in the late 60's and early 70's, including members of the active duty military. The enlisted/drafted folks were not protesting the song in 69-70, they were listening to it at the base club. The song is largely anti-draft and anti-favoritism to draft-avoiding sons of politicians and bigwigs. Somehow, to the guy getting drafted, some wealthy snot getting five deferments seemed unfair. Springsteen also did "Born In The U.S.A." [excerpt of lyrics] Oops. A little misunderstanding. These songs are not anti-military. They are anti sending young men off to fight senseless wars. They are anti crapping on the military after their service is done. Think VA.
The song, not to put too fine a point on it, is an anti-war screed, taking shots at "the red white and blue." You are all clueless. The song IS anti-war, it is not anti American. Warmongering neocons are the target, not veterans.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Everyone to the left of Limbaugh is a Commie in your warped mind
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Finally - someone at this site who has the capacity to think for themselves instead of regurgitation the FAUX News propaganda. The song (Fortunate Son) is largely anti-draft and anti-favoritism to draft-avoiding sons of politicians and bigwigs. Somehow, to the guy getting drafted, some wealthy snot getting five deferments seemed unfair. Think GW Bush.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" The concert wasn't being presented for you, you braying, arrogant jackass. The Veterans (remember them?) enjoyed it. Stop being such a knee-jerk reactionary who parrots right-wing, neocon talking points for a change. Even better, go back to bashing "faggots". That's more your speed.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Stop being such a knee-jerk reactionary who parrots right-wing, neocon talking points for a change. Even better, go back to bashing "faggots". That's more your speed. My dad is a veteran. He doesn't like Springsteen. Lots of people haven't liked Springsteen since way before Fox News was even on the drawing board. So your reactionary response of Fox News... is just blather from someone who likes regurgitating liberal talking points then regurgitating them again.
Think GW Bush. GW used influence to get into the Texas Air National Guard. At that time, the National Guard was not being sent on foreign adventures. Actually, the thought was of Dick Cheney and his five deferments. Someone in that era should have named a learning institute Deferment University. I was on active duty at the time Fortunate Son was released. It was popular, not protested. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html By Katharine Q. Seelye WASHINGTON, April 30 — It was 1959 when Dick Cheney, then a student at Yale University, turned 18 and became eligible for the draft. Eventually, like 16 million other young men of that era, Mr. Cheney sought deferments. By the time he turned 26 in January 1967 and was no longer eligible for the draft, he had asked for and received five deferments, four because he was a student and one for being a new father. [snip]
That's more your speed. Are you offended by opposition to Homo-Fascism? Have you registered with Homo-San.com?
Check. Springsteen is a condescending punk who ridicules America as well as the military grunts who merely do their duty. Between he and the whigger Eminem, this Veteran's Day "homage" was an absolute disgrace and utter embarrassment to any SANE observer. As to Deckard/IW's menopausal reaction, it is FOX News and *only* FOX News reporting on 0bumkaCare author Gruber who admitted "stupidity" of the American people was the reason they passed that trash to begin with -- NOT MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the Times or any other media/network.
I don't go around "bashing faggots" because I am insecure about my own sexuality like some of you folks are. Have you registered with Homo-San.com? Have you registered with fascists.com yet?
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Yeah, that must be why he performed for the troops. As opposed to Henry Kissinger who said "“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” When are you taking the time to perform for veterans? I don't hear any of them complaining about Springsteen, it's just the FAUX News parrots who are perpetually offended.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Oh, I get it now - you are under the impression that FOX News is conservative. There's your problem right there.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" NOT a valid analogy, IW. I'm not the one defending fascism. But YOU did indeed defend the homofascist movement by bashing those who defy homofascism (ironic, eh?)
Yeah, that must be why he performed for the troops. He's recruiting. Pimping for the lib crusaders. NOT seeing it? That's shame. As opposed to Henry Kissinger who said "“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” Here's MORE irony: BOTH Springsteen and Henry the K are ON THE SAME SIDE. Both are elites globalists who think they know better than the rest of us. Where do YOU stand? With THEM or US?? When are you taking the time to perform for veterans? I don't hear any of them complaining about Springsteen, it's just the FAUX News parrots who are perpetually offended. Lame.
There's your problem right there. Oh I get it -- you have a reading comprehension problem AND can't tell the difference between .0000% truth and 25% truth.
I must have missed the part where Kissinger was performing for the troops. Is it on YouTube?
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Not at all. However I did point out the obvious closeted homosexuals who post here. For the record, I disapprove of homosexuality, and am definitely not in favor of gay Marriage.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" To put it another way...100% lies to 75% lies. But you keep watching those pseudo conservatives like O'reilly, Hannity and that bleached Bimbo Megan Kelly. They only lie 75% of the time.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" I must have missed the part where Kissinger was performing for the troops. Springsteen is a propagandist and recruiter, spreading his gospel of globalism, anti-constitutionalism, and elitism. WHERE DO YOU DISAGREE? Kissinger has "performed" for the Ruling Elites -- JUST LIKE SPRINGSTEEN. Both Kissinger and Bruuuuce are Globalist-Firsters. Both consider themselves Elites. Ergo, both are on the Same Side. Again -- do you disagree, and if so, what about?
Really? Who might that be, and what proof can you provide? How has this poster spilled out of the closet? For the record, I disapprove of homosexuality, and am definitely not in favor of gay Marriage. Well that's a relief.
They only lie 75% of the time. Again, we'll review reality's simple math and political IQ Test: CNN/CBS/ABC/NBC/MSNBC/NYT/etal = 0% Truth. Would you rather be 100% dead or 75% dead? (Hint: 75% dead = LIFE.) FWIW, O'Reilly is pompous tool of the Elitists and NWO, and probably America's most dangerous talking head. Hannity and Kelly -- though not "conservative" by my definition -- at least report the truth on this totalitarian-fascist regime on many occasions. Hannity has been a main thorn in 0bola's side. Or do you deny even that??
I have no use for Oreilly. He is a fool. I've never really watched Megan Kelly. But I've seen a few of her clips. She is ok on some things. But he is pro fake marriage. Hannity is ok. Except when Bush was President.
Agree with your succinct assessment. On some issues Kelly and Hannity must be commended for getting the truth out there. On other issues they are a fail. O'Reilly is an utter FAIL, puppet of the elites,and 0bola's pool-boy. His actual job at FOX is burying ALL truth and protecting 0bola. Hannity's subservience to Bush and the rest of his cast of globalists was and still is embarrassing and inexcusable.
You'd be just as dead from 75% strychnine as you would from 100%. Actually, at least with MSNBC, you know they are lying 100%. Which makes them in a roundabout way, more honest than FOX. At least they aren't trying to hide their agenda. FOX is the choice for gullible fools who still delusionally think that the Republican Party is going to save us from Obama.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Fox News hosts mock and chastise citizens for filming the police The topic of discussion earlier this week on Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor was the subject of filming police officers during on-the job duties. Or, as host Bill O’Reilly describes it, “spying on the police.” Mr. O’Reilly and guest commentator Megyn Kelly proceeded to attempt to marginalize a group known as Cop Block (www.copblock.org), which has dedicated a great deal of effort toward seeking accountability among police officers through the use of cameras. The two hosts showed nothing but contempt toward the concept of filming police and the individuals who spend effort to do it.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Kissinger is a big promoter of the type of free trade deals that destroyed the Washburn Wire Company. Springsteen went on an Amnesty International tour, the interventionists who whine about human rights in third world countries have caused us no end of trouble, Iraq being but one example. I'm tired of guys like Kissinger and Springsteen making the rest of the world's problems America's problem.
As opposed to the interventionists (neocons) who gleefully destroy third-world countries, Iraq being but one example.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Come to think of it, you're right. "Free Trade" killed Washburn Wire and thousands of other American companies who were undercut by Asians. Henry the K was indeed instrumental in this "globalist" economy and never been an American-Firster. Kissinger: THE face of Globalism and economic Treason. Springsteen went on an Amnesty International tour, the interventionists who whine about human rights in third world countries have caused us no end of trouble, Iraq being but one example. Great point and observation some are missing. Brucie isn't so much giving a rat's azz about American troops as he is recruiting future social and economic subversives like himself. I'm tired of guys like Kissinger and Springsteen making the rest of the world's problems America's problem. Amen! These are the .01%-ers who believe THEY are the World's royalty.
I must have missed the shot of his recruiting booth at the concert. Is there a YouTube video?
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Mr. O’Reilly and guest commentator Megyn Kelly proceeded to attempt to marginalize a group known as Cop Block (www.copblock.org), which has dedicated a great deal of effort toward seeking accountability among police officers through the use of cameras. The two hosts showed nothing but contempt toward the concept of filming police and the individuals who spend effort to do it. Nothing we don't already know about either O'Reilly or Kelly and the pro- Police State faction of the GOPe elites. That said, kindly explain to us why you feel there's no difference between "FAUX News" (a term that every lib, leftist, Dem, and HuffPo uses) and MSNBC, CBS, CNN, or ABC. The latter are 100% tools of neo-fascism and 0bola. THEY would lock our azzes up in a Gulag if they could. Btw, you may want to re-examine A K A Stone's comment below: "I have no use for Oreilly. He is a fool. I've never really watched Megan Kelly. But I've seen a few of her clips. She is ok on some things."
Lol -- I had NO idea that you were this...ignorant. But hey -- it's about the "music," eh? Chyeah, right. Is there a YouTube video? Of your inability to add 2+2? If not, there should be.
As opposed to the interventionists (neocons) who gleefully destroy third-world countries, Iraq being but one example. a) WHO here is supporting neocon-ism? b) You whine on about neocons yet excuse Sprinsteen's Trojan Horse fascism and elitism? Unreal.
Actually, at least with MSNBC, you know they are lying 100%. Which makes them in a roundabout way, more honest than FOX. At least they aren't trying to hide their agenda. So according to you MSNBC and 0buma possess integrity because they're honest about executing us in broad daylight as advertised? How does one convince themselves that 100% Evil is the same as 25% Good?? FOX is the choice for gullible fools who still delusionally think that the Republican Party is going to save us from 0buma. FOX News provides the ONLY option on tee-bee for those looking for SOME truth, exposing 0buma and the Dems on SOME counts, and rejecting 100% propaganda. Only a fool dismisses ALL of FOX News as though its reporting were the same as MSNBC.
Like I said...at least with MSNBC you KNOW they are lying. With FOX, their lying is mixed with truth to fool the rubes.
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Yee I agree -- FOX is trying to fool a good number of well-meaning rubes. Especially in the person of Bill O'Reilly "looking out for the folks." But in the MEANTIME FOX News still provide a needed service: THEY OCCASIONALLY REPORT THE TRUTH (when NO ONE ELSE will do so.)
Very true. They are the scumbags who got us into Somalia. Those craphole places over there that are under the heel of despots, they have exactly the government they deserve. It gets proven time and time again in crapholes like Libya and Iraq, and they're trying to do it is Syria right now. We need to worry about America, tie for us to re-industrialize at home. The resources that have been poured down foreign ratholes by the Davos "We Are The World" class would have done wonders here at home.
And after we waste blood and resources battling these Neanderthals and former pirates there, Bush and 0bola have IMPORTED them as parasitic, criminal "immigrant " saboteurs to places like Maine and Minnesota. Those craphole places over there that are under the heel of despots, they have exactly the government they deserve. It gets proven time and time again in crapholes like Libya and Iraq, and they're trying to do it is Syria right now. Hear ya. What's wrong with this picture? Simply EVERYTHING. You can't fix stupid and Cro-Magnon civ. We need to worry about America, tie for us to re-industrialize at home. The resources that have been poured down foreign ratholes by the Davos "We Are The World" class would have done wonders here at home. What we should do, but won't do are two different things, aren't they? The globalist-elites know exactly what they're doing: SABOTAGING AMERICA and our Middle Class as they import the riff-raff demo of the world's Third World hell-holes.
#2. To: out damned spot, I ain' t no neocon son (#0)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: out damned spot (#0)
John Fogerty Shares Inspiration Behind "Fortunate Son"
Got in a little hometown jam so they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man
Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man says "son if it was up to me"
Went down to see my V.A. man
He said "son don't you understand now"
Had a brother at Khe Sahn fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there he's all gone
He had a woman he loved in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms now
Down in the shadow of penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years burning down the road
Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go “Born in the U.S.A.” is, to quote music critic Greil Marcus, “about the refusal of the country to treat Vietnam veterans as something more than nonunion workers in an enterprise conducted off the books. It is about the debt the country owes to those who suffered the violation of the principles on which the country was founded, and by which it was justified itself ever since.”
#4. To: out damned spot (#0)
Creedence Clearwater's famously anti-war anthem “Fortunate Son”—
#5. To: A K A Stone (#1)
Then when I learned he was basically a communist.
#6. To: nolu chan (#3)
(Edited)
These songs are not anti-military. They are anti sending young men off to fight senseless wars. They are anti crapping on the military after their service is done. Think VA.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#1)
He is worthless and a sad choice for this event.
#8. To: Deckard (#7)
The Veterans (remember them?) enjoyed it.
#9. To: Deckard (#6)
Somehow, to the guy getting drafted, some wealthy snot getting five deferments seemed unfair.
Cheney's Five Draft Deferments During the Vietnam Era Emerge as a Campaign Issue
Published: May 1, 2004
#10. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#7)
Even better, go back to bashing "faggots".
#11. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#8)
Lots of people haven't liked Springsteen since way before Fox News was even on the drawing board. So your reactionary response of Fox News... is just blather from someone who likes regurgitating liberal talking points then regurgitating them again.
#12. To: Liberator (#10)
Are you offended by opposition to Homo-Fascism?
#13. To: Liberator (#11)
(Edited)
Springsteen is a condescending punk who ridicules America as well as the military grunts who merely do their duty.
#14. To: Liberator (#11)
it is FOX News and *only* FOX News reporting on 0bumkaCare author Gruber who admitted "stupidity" of the American people was the reason they passed that trash to begin with -- NOT MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the Times or any other media/network.
#15. To: Deckard (#12)
Have you registered with fascists.com yet?
#16. To: Deckard, Infowarrior (#13)
Springsteen is a condescending punk who ridicules America as well as the military grunts who merely do their duty.
#17. To: Deckard, Infowarrior (#14)
Oh, I get it now - you are under the impression that FOX News is conservative.
#18. To: Liberator (#16)
BOTH Springsteen and Henry the K are ON THE SAME SIDE
#19. To: Liberator (#15)
But YOU did indeed defend the homofascist movement by bashing those who defy homofascism (ironic, eh?)
#20. To: Liberator (#17)
can't tell the difference between .0000% truth and 25% truth.
#21. To: Deckard (#18)
BOTH Springsteen and Henry the K are ON THE SAME SIDE
#22. To: Deckard (#19)
I did point out the obvious closeted homosexuals who post here.
#23. To: Deckard (#20)
But you keep watching those pseudo conservatives like O'reilly, Hannity and that bleached Bimbo Megan Kelly.
FOX News.........................................= 25% Truth.
#24. To: Liberator (#23)
#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)
#26. To: Liberator (#23)
Would you rather be 100% dead or 75% dead? (Hint: 75% dead = LIFE.)
#27. To: A K A Stone, Liberator (#24)
(Edited)
Megan Kelly.
#28. To: Liberator (#16)
BOTH Springsteen and Henry the K are ON THE SAME SIDE. Both are elites globalists who think they know better than the rest of us.
#29. To: nativist nationalist (#28)
the interventionists who whine about human rights in third world countries have caused us no end of trouble, Iraq being but one example.
#30. To: nativist nationalist, Deckard (#28)
Kissinger is a big promoter of the type of free trade deals that destroyed the Washburn Wire Company.
#31. To: Liberator (#30)
Brucie isn't so much giving a rat's azz about American troops as he is recruiting future social and economic subversives like himself.
#32. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#27)
The topic of discussion earlier this week on Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor was the subject of filming police officers during on-the job duties. Or, as host Bill O’Reilly describes it, “spying on the police.”
#33. To: Deckard (#31)
I must have missed the shot of his recruiting booth at the concert.
#34. To: Deckard (#29)
the interventionists who whine about human rights in third world countries have caused us no end of trouble, Iraq being but one example.
#35. To: Deckard (#26)
(Edited)
You'd be just as dead from 75% strychnine as you would from 100%.
#36. To: Liberator (#35)
How does one convince themselves that 100% Evil is the same as 25% Good??
#37. To: Deckard (#36)
#38. To: Liberator (#30)
Amen! These are the .01%-ers who believe THEY are the World's royalty.
#39. To: nativist nationalist (#38)
(Edited)
Very true. They are the scumbags who got us into Somalia.
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