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Title: Pope Francis says Big Bang theory and evolution 'compatible with divine Creator'
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telegraph.co.uk
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ... tible-with-divine-Creator.html
Published: Oct 28, 2014
Author: By Nick Squires
Post Date: 2014-10-28 13:42:04 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 71480
Comments: 132
Theory universe born in cosmic explosion 13.7 billion years ago 'doesn't contradict' divine Creator but 'demands it', says pontiff The theory of the Big Bang is compatible with the Catholic Church's teaching on creation and belief in both is possible, Pope Francis has said. The Pope insisted that God was responsible for the Big Bang, from which all life then evolved. The Big Bang - the theory that the universe was born in a cosmic explosion about 13.7 billion years ago and has expanded and evolved since - "doesn't contradict the intervention of a divine Creator, but demands it," the Pope said. The beginning of the world was not "the work of chaos" but part of a divine plan by the Creator, he said. The Jesuit Pope made the remarks during an address to a meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathered at the Vatican to discuss "Evolving Concepts of Nature". "Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve," he told the meeting. God should not be regarded as some sort of "magician", waving a magic wand, he said. "When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so," he said. "He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that He gave to each one so they would reach fulfilment." The Pope's remarks were in line with Catholic Church teaching of the last few decades. As far back as 1950, Pope Pius XII said that there was no intrinsic conflict between Catholic doctrine and the theory of evolution, provided that Catholics believed that the human soul was created by God and not the result of random evolutionary forces. That stance was affirmed in 1996 by Pope John Paul II. "The Pope's declaration is significant," said Giovanni Bignami, the president of Italy's National Institute for Astrophysics. "We are the descendants of the Big Bang, which created the universe. You just have to think that in our blood we have a few litres of hydrogen, which was created by the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago. "Our blood is red because it contains iron, which was created by the explosion of a star millions and millions of years ago. Out of creation came evolution."
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Often thought the same thing. BBT, evolution.....all of it is just the way of the Creator.
This is a way of looking at Christianity that makes it more plausible to me. I still disagree with major aspects of that religion, but common sense being expressed by one of the largest Christian churches is a welcome thing to see. By the way, I am not Christian or a Catholic, but I was raised in that church leaving it after the ceremony of Confirmation which I had agreed to go through.
Plausible in what sense? Meaning you can embrace an Uncreated Creator as long as those who follow Him acknowledge Big Bang and the theory of evolution? Or plausible in the sense that "finally some Christians are realizing there is no Jewish-Christian God and can now join the rest of us in the primordial goo"?
I believe in a female deity and question whether a Jesus Christ even existed. I respect the religions of others, but I myself am quite Pagan. I believe most religions are vehicles used to manage people and are too focused on humans as the pinnacle of creation. I feel all life is sacred, and that humans are destroying and extincting much of the fabric of life that is the best part of this planet. I also quite firmly believe that there are other planets out there with life on them.
As well you should. The deity, Elohiym, is female, and male, both. YHWH is masculine. The Holy Spirit and the Glory of God are feminine. Jesus is masculine. Of course he existed: you can see what he looked like and get a sample of his blood from the Shroud of Turin.
Prior to Vatican II Beatnik metrosexuals revisionist history, it was "Holy Ghost" masculine.
#87. To: hondo68 (#83)
In Hebrew, the Spirit of God is feminine singular. Ruach is a feminine singular word. It is not masculine. Genesis through Malachi is written in Hebrew, with the feminine spirit, not English. It is what was inspired by God. In Greek, Ruach is translated as "Pneuma", - Spirit - Pneuma Hagion - the Holy Spirit. Pneuma in Greek is neuter. Pneuma was translated into Latin as "Spiritus", which is a masculine word, in Latin. But now we're two translations removed from the inspired autograph. God inspired the Scripture to contain the feminine Spirit. In Hebrew and in Aramaic, the language of the Jews and of Jesus in the Galilee, "spirit" and "Holy spirit" are feminine. In Greek transcription, this is the neuter pneuma. It only becomes masculine in Latin, two translations away from the original inspired words. The Spirit of God is feminine singular in most of the inspired Scriptures, and neuter in the rest. Translations are echoes. They are not themselves inspired. The gender of the "Spiritu Sancto" in Latin is masculine, and the masculine pronouns have passed into English. That's nice, but the Scripture is the inspired word of God, and when God spoke of God's spirit, God used the feminine. So the Holy Spirit IS feminine, whether the Latins and English- speakers like it or not. (The only reason to DISLIKE that, given that God says outright on the sixth day that in Elohiym's image he made them male and female, is because of a desire to cling to tradition. Here, the tradition is erroneous, contrary to something very obvious in the Scripture. The tradition needs to be chucked. In Latin, the Holy Spirit is a he because of grammar. But in English, there is no gender of nouns. One can follow the Greek neuter and call the Holy Spirit IT, but if one is going to personify the Holy Spirit, then she is a SHE, not a HE, in the Bible anyway. Why resist the Bible?)
Is that Gilligan from Gilligan's Island?
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#7. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
This is a way of looking at Christianity that makes it more plausible to me
#9. To: redleghunter (#7)
#56. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
I believe in a female deity and question whether a Jesus Christ even existed.
#83. To: Vicomte13, Vatican 2 Beatniks (#56)
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The Holy Spirit and the Glory of God are feminine.
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