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Title: Pope Francis says Big Bang theory and evolution 'compatible with divine Creator'
Source: telegraph.co.uk
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ... tible-with-divine-Creator.html
Published: Oct 28, 2014
Author: By Nick Squires
Post Date: 2014-10-28 13:42:04 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 68304
Comments: 132

Theory universe born in cosmic explosion 13.7 billion years ago 'doesn't contradict' divine Creator but 'demands it', says pontiff

The theory of the Big Bang is compatible with the Catholic Church's teaching on creation and belief in both is possible, Pope Francis has said. The Pope insisted that God was responsible for the Big Bang, from which all life then evolved.

The Big Bang - the theory that the universe was born in a cosmic explosion about 13.7 billion years ago and has expanded and evolved since - "doesn't contradict the intervention of a divine Creator, but demands it," the Pope said.

The beginning of the world was not "the work of chaos" but part of a divine plan by the Creator, he said.

The Jesuit Pope made the remarks during an address to a meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathered at the Vatican to discuss "Evolving Concepts of Nature".

"Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve," he told the meeting.

God should not be regarded as some sort of "magician", waving a magic wand, he said.

"When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so," he said.

"He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that He gave to each one so they would reach fulfilment." The Pope's remarks were in line with Catholic Church teaching of the last few decades.

As far back as 1950, Pope Pius XII said that there was no intrinsic conflict between Catholic doctrine and the theory of evolution, provided that Catholics believed that the human soul was created by God and not the result of random evolutionary forces.

That stance was affirmed in 1996 by Pope John Paul II.

"The Pope's declaration is significant," said Giovanni Bignami, the president of Italy's National Institute for Astrophysics.

"We are the descendants of the Big Bang, which created the universe. You just have to think that in our blood we have a few litres of hydrogen, which was created by the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago.

"Our blood is red because it contains iron, which was created by the explosion of a star millions and millions of years ago. Out of creation came evolution."

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Often thought the same thing. BBT, evolution.....all of it is just the way of the Creator.

4 givan 1  posted on  2014-10-28   13:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: 4 givan 1 (#1)

ften thought the same thing. BBT, evolution.....all of it is just the way of the Creator.

Do you believe God when he said there was NO DEATH before sin? NO DEATH?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-10-28   15:28:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, 4 givan 1, redleghunter, Ferret Mike (#3)

Often thought the same thing. BBT, evolution.....all of it is just the way of the Creator.

Do you believe God when he said there was NO DEATH before sin? NO DEATH?

That's one of the rubs, isn't it?

IF -- as Genesis tells us - we indeed believe that there was "NO DEATH" before the sin of Adam and Eve, how then could the death of dinosaurs precede the emergence of Adam and Eve?

IF we believe in the inerrant word of God as per Genesis, death ONLY occurred after their sin...which means, YES, dinosaurs existed afterward and NOT "millions" of years ago and Junk Science has asserted -- without a shred of evidence other than erroneous methods of "dating."

But besides this angle on "evolution" and the BBT, viable tissue from dinosaurs has been found and studied (no NOT the big news in the media one would expect.) HOW SO?? Because dinosaurs existed WITH man...and died during the aftermath of the Great Flood. The strata of rock formations (and with it, embedded fossils) prove the cataclysmic catastrophic of the Great Flood and epic upheaval of the planet. Back to "Dating" methodology, DID the Great Flood cause the "Atomic Clock" to be recalibrated?)

Really interesting article and link:

http://creation.com/Did-god-create-over-billions-of-years

Liberator  posted on  2014-10-29   12:50:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Liberator (#21)

IF -- as Genesis tells us - we indeed believe that there was "NO DEATH" before the sin of Adam and Eve,

If we believe that Genesis tells us that, then we are not reading carefully enough. Genesis doesn't say that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-01   16:36:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Vicomte13 (#59)

If we believe that Genesis tells us that [No Death before Adam's sin], then we are not reading carefully enough. Genesis doesn't say that.

I don't know if it's more about reading carefully enough or again, context and interpretation.

Genesis 2:17 -- "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

What did God mean by "die?" Didn't God curse Adam with both physical AND spiritual death? Can't we conclude Adam's act affected all of God's original plan -- and that death begat all His Creation? Pork chops and steak weren't eaten until after the fall.

So, what is your interpretation or belief about "Death" as per scripture?

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-01   17:20:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Liberator (#68)

Pork chops and steak weren't eaten until after the fall.

They were not supposed to be eaten until after the Flood.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-01   17:41:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#79. To: Vicomte13 (#73)

They [Pork chops and burgers] were not supposed to be eaten until after the Flood.

Was it?

And then after that, not even pork chops ;-)

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