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The Left's War On Christians
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Title: "Militant Atheist" Endorses Stalinist Censorship for "religious fanatics" at LP; Exposed as a Hypocrite
Source: Liberty Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=348566&Disp=525#C525
Published: Oct 13, 2014
Author: Redleghunter
Post Date: 2014-10-13 14:15:07 by Liberator
Keywords: MilitantAtheist, HypocritalLibertarian, FauxConstitutionalist
Views: 83815
Comments: 168

#525. To: tpaine, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, listener (#502)

(Tpaine):"We've all seen what happened at FR when religious fanaticism took too much control. Goldie doesn't want it to happen here. Comprende?"

LOL you are a piece of work. What about the libertarian, CT and homosexual lobby fanatics who post here? Mr. Libertarian you can't silence one philosophical voice or view, let all others opine and expect to be called libertarian.

Mr. Constitution I and every person of faith or religion has a First Amendment Right to freely exercise our religion AND as with all Americans the freedom of speech. Now if Goldi wants to limit those rights on her forum fine, but call it "Limited Libertypost" to accurately portray the site.

For someone who opines daily on the rights of individuals yet wants a particular philosophical thought suppressed is complete hypocrisy.

Please examine yourself.

redleghunter  posted on  2014-10-13   13:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace  


Poster Comment: Tpaine -- yet another closeted out-of-the-woodwork Stalinist libertarian/Militant Atheist and anti-Christian -- was exposed and called out for his utter and complete blatant hypocrisy. Courtesy, redleghunter..

Redleghunter is apparently one of those "religious fanatics" tpaine referred to. Tpaine -- a HUGE so-called "constitutionalist" and crusader for libertarianism -- was emboldened and still intoxicated and inspired by Goldi-Lox's "fanatic jesus"/you make me VOMIT!" comment.

Will Mr. Constitution "comprende" Hunting Season when its declared on hypocritical Libertarians? Chyeah, Paine -- We ALL saw what happened when one Closet Christian-Hater got called out on his fake "libertarian" and select memory of the US Constitution.

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#15. To: Liberator (#0)

Thankfully, we had this site to come to when LP started to head towards the Soviet-style "freedom from religion" censorship.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-15   21:47:48 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Orthodoxa (#15)

Thankfully, we had this site to come to when LP started to head towards the Soviet-style "freedom from religion" censorship.

Soviet? Seriously?     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-15   22:26:55 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#19)

Soviet? Seriously?

"Freedom from religion" is a Soviet concept, not an American one.

We have freedom OF religion here. For a site to advertise itself as not censoring people for their beliefs, but then to censor people due to their religious beliefs or in some cases even political beliefs (she also regularly purged Libertarian posts during election seasons -- note: I'm not a Libertarian, I just recognize that when the censorship of them started that someday it would happen to me too, and indeed it did.)

Off topic vulgarity and insults were tolerated and even encouraged, but people simply posting their religious views on a topic of the day were told to keep it hidden from view.

The Soviets did the same thing, they would proclaim that the Soviet Union had "freedom of and FROM religion", in practice that meant that if anyone saw you openly practicing or proclaiming Jesus Christ, that you would be punished for it.

The Soviets started out proclaiming that they were just "protecting" the average citizen from the "offensive" counter-revolutionary speech of Christians as well, but once they had consolidated their power then scenes like this one from the video occurred:

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That Russian Orthodox Bishop was placed on trial and executed because he had committed the "crime" of selling all of his possessions and giving the money to the poor -- the Commies declared that he had committed "treason" because "poverty does not exist in the Soviet Union".

Ordinary people who went to Church would be tracked by the NKVD and later the KGB and punished for openly displaying their belief in Jesus Christ, because much like the God-Haters at LP, they were offended if they had to see someone openly being a Christian or talking about it.

Christians in the Soviet Union were told that they had "freedom of religion", they just had to keep it completely hidden or be punished because if a God- hater saw it they would be offended by it. The Soviets saw restrictions on the public practice of Christianity as completely reasonable, much like the God-hater contingent at LP felt about posting Christian viewpoints on the forums there.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-15   22:54:11 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Orthodoxa (#23)

Your whole post is a crock of crap,although I don't have the slightest doubt you believe it because it is what you have been told since you were a child.

Nobody was punished for going to church. In FACT,the priesthood was a KGB career field. After all,who better to keep a eye on the people than the man that hears their confessions?

Stalin understood this well because he went to school to become a priest.

The fact that it is rare to find a Russian that doesn't claim to be of the Russian Orthodox faith today is proof that religion wasn't suppressed on the level you claim.

The communists treated religion like they did everything else. They were for it as long as they controlled it,and opposed to it if they thought some foreigners were controlling it. Their whole focus was on controlling power over everyone and everything. I first went to Russia as a tourist the year the Soviet Union collapsed,and I grew up believing the same crap you do. I was very surprised to see all the old churches being restored and at never personally meeting a Russian that didn't claim to believe in God. I'm sure they exist,I just didn't meet any.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-15   23:44:13 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#31)

Nobody was punished for going to church. In FACT,the priesthood was a KGB career field. After all,who better to keep a eye on the people than the man that hears their confessions?

Stalin understood this well because he went to school to become a priest.

The fact that it is rare to find a Russian that doesn't claim to be of the Russian Orthodox faith today is proof that religion wasn't suppressed on the level you claim.

The communists treated religion like they did everything else. They were for it as long as they controlled it,and opposed to it if they thought some foreigners were controlling it. Their whole focus was on controlling power over everyone and everything. I first went to Russia as a tourist the year the Soviet Union collapsed,and I grew up believing the same crap you do. I was very surprised to see all the old churches being restored and at never personally meeting a Russian that didn't claim to believe in God. I'm sure they exist,I just didn't meet any.

The documentation for people being punished for going to Church is enormous. One Russian Orthodox priest was literally CRUCIFIED on the doors to his Church by the Atheist Soviets.

Literally millions of Christians were killed because of their public confession of Jesus Christ.

And yes, the majority of Russians were and are Christian. They were being persecuted by an Atheist minority. That's what happens when you let people with an Atheist world-view seize power, they have no moral code.

And you confess that you saw Churches being RESTORED. Who was it that had torn them down in the first place?

And of course today most Russians are indeed openly Christian. They KNOW that only God could have overthrown the most evil empire in the history of mankind.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-16   0:11:52 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Orthodoxa (#39)

The documentation for people being punished for going to Church is enormous.

And we all know documents don't lie,right?

One Russian Orthodox priest was literally CRUCIFIED on the doors to his Church by the Atheist Soviets.

I have never tried to deny that some priests weren't murdered by the Soviets,and their churches weren't shut down. Stalin had this done to some of the priests that wouldn't play the role of informer on their congregation. Others were sent off to the labor camps and worked/starved to death.

The ones that did play along kept their churches and were kept fat and happy.

Or maybe you think that Stalin didn't know about the Patriarch in Moscow? And you confess that you saw Churches being RESTORED. Who was it that had torn them down in the first place?

"CONFESS"? What religious crime am I being suspected of being guilty?

SOME churches doesn't equal ALL churches,which was your original claim.

They KNOW that only God could have overthrown the most evil empire in the history of mankind.

Uh,huh. Odd how they/you never seem to question how a all-powerful and all-seeing God let the evil empire come into existence to start with,isn't it?

Maybe you think Stalin had him fooled because he went to Divinity School?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-16   0:19:51 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#40)

I have never tried to deny that some priests weren't murdered by the Soviets,and their churches weren't shut down. Stalin had this done to some of the priests that wouldn't play the role of informer on their congregation.

So Soviets were demolishing the church buildings because the priests there did not want to be informers?

How did you learn about history of the Russian Church? From TV? From a tourist trip? Or from atheist friends from Russia? From a neocon "history" book? Or from all the above?

A Pole  posted on  2015-01-16   3:18:23 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: A Pole (#45)

So Soviets were demolishing the church buildings because the priests there did not want to be informers?

More nonsense. ONE large RO church in Moscow was demolished. That's it.

And rebuilding it became one of the first things life-long commie Yeltsin ordered after the Soviet Union collapsed.

BTW,they did a beautiful job of recreating it,too.

How did you learn about history of the Russian Church?

Not from a RO cult leader,like you did,comrade.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-16   7:02:24 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#61. To: sneakypete (#54)

More nonsense. ONE large RO church in Moscow was demolished. That's it.

And rebuilding it became one of the first things life-long commie Yeltsin ordered after the Soviet Union collapsed.

BTW,they did a beautiful job of recreating it,too.

How did you learn about history of the Russian Church?

Not from a RO cult leader,like you did,comrade.

If you think that the destruction of Christ the Saviour Cathedral in Moscow was the only demolition of a Christian Church by the Soviets, you are really ignorant of history.

Yes, people do focus on Christ the Saviour Cathedral, but they do so not because it was the only Christian Church blown up by the atheist Communists, but because of the miracles surrounding it. Stalin had it demolished and wanted to replace it with a "Palace of the Soviets" with a statue of Lenin on top of it. The earth itself refused to support this blasphemy, and their satanic tower was unable to stand. Christ the Saviour Cathedral has indeed been rebuilt, along with thousands of other Christian Churches.

Christ is victorious, and the atheists have been relegated to the dustbin of history. It's too bad that you've been reduced to repeating Communist propaganda.

You asked why God would permit the atheists to seize power in Russia, but in another statement admitted that almost every Russian that you met was openly a Christian. God gave them free will, and the Russian people have now been able to see what life is like under atheism and what it is like when Jesus Christ is exalted. That is why most Russians are Christians today. And that it why haters of Christianity try to censor it, like the Soviets they think that they can silence the proclamation of the Gospel. They don't want a free marketplace of ideas, because if people are free to hear the Gospel, many will choose it.

But what happened to Liberty Post after Christianity was censored there? May God have mercy on her soul, Goldi died alone and largely unnoticed. She tried to silence the proclamation of the Gospel, and now her website has fallen silent. God is not mocked.

And other folks in the thread trying to state that she only wanted for things to be posted "under the proper tabs", that simply isn't true. During election cycles, she banned Libertarian posts. When Romney was the nominee, she also banned postings critical of Mormonism, even under the Religion tab! She did not support an open and free marketplace of ideas, she ran a neo-con echo-chamber. And in addition to hating Libertarians, the neo-cons hate "social conservatives" which is their Newspeak for Christians.

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