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Title: "Militant Atheist" Endorses Stalinist Censorship for "religious fanatics" at LP; Exposed as a Hypocrite
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Liberty Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=348566&Disp=525#C525
Published: Oct 13, 2014
Author: Redleghunter
Post Date: 2014-10-13 14:15:07 by Liberator
Keywords: MilitantAtheist, HypocritalLibertarian, FauxConstitutionalist
Views: 83847
Comments: 168
#525. To: tpaine, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, listener (#502)
LOL you are a piece of work. What about the libertarian, CT and homosexual lobby fanatics who post here? Mr. Libertarian you can't silence one philosophical voice or view, let all others opine and expect to be called libertarian.
Mr. Constitution I and every person of faith or religion has a First Amendment Right to freely exercise our religion AND as with all Americans the freedom of speech. Now if Goldi wants to limit those rights on her forum fine, but call it "Limited Libertypost" to accurately portray the site.
For someone who opines daily on the rights of individuals yet wants a particular philosophical thought suppressed is complete hypocrisy.
Please examine yourself.
Redleghunter is apparently one of those "religious fanatics" tpaine referred to. Tpaine -- a HUGE so-called "constitutionalist" and crusader for libertarianism -- was emboldened and still intoxicated and inspired by Goldi-Lox's "fanatic jesus"/you make me VOMIT!" comment.
Will Mr. Constitution "comprende" Hunting Season when its declared on hypocritical Libertarians? Chyeah, Paine -- We ALL saw what happened when one Closet Christian-Hater got called out on his fake "libertarian" and select memory of the US Constitution.
(Tpaine):"We've all seen what happened at FR when religious fanaticism took too much control. Goldie doesn't want it to happen here. Comprende?"
Poster Comment:
Tpaine -- yet another closeted out-of-the-woodwork Stalinist libertarian/Militant Atheist and anti-Christian -- was exposed and called out for his utter and complete blatant hypocrisy. Courtesy, redleghunter..
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#15. To: Liberator (#0)
Thankfully, we had this site to come to when LP started to head towards the Soviet-style "freedom from religion" censorship.
Soviet? Seriously? : )
"Freedom from religion" is a Soviet concept, not an American one. We have freedom OF religion here. For a site to advertise itself as not censoring people for their beliefs, but then to censor people due to their religious beliefs or in some cases even political beliefs (she also regularly purged Libertarian posts during election seasons -- note: I'm not a Libertarian, I just recognize that when the censorship of them started that someday it would happen to me too, and indeed it did.) Off topic vulgarity and insults were tolerated and even encouraged, but people simply posting their religious views on a topic of the day were told to keep it hidden from view. The Soviets did the same thing, they would proclaim that the Soviet Union had "freedom of and FROM religion", in practice that meant that if anyone saw you openly practicing or proclaiming Jesus Christ, that you would be punished for it. The Soviets started out proclaiming that they were just "protecting" the average citizen from the "offensive" counter-revolutionary speech of Christians as well, but once they had consolidated their power then scenes like this one from the video occurred: That Russian Orthodox Bishop was placed on trial and executed because he had committed the "crime" of selling all of his possessions and giving the money to the poor -- the Commies declared that he had committed "treason" because "poverty does not exist in the Soviet Union". Ordinary people who went to Church would be tracked by the NKVD and later the KGB and punished for openly displaying their belief in Jesus Christ, because much like the God-Haters at LP, they were offended if they had to see someone openly being a Christian or talking about it. Christians in the Soviet Union were told that they had "freedom of religion", they just had to keep it completely hidden or be punished because if a God- hater saw it they would be offended by it. The Soviets saw restrictions on the public practice of Christianity as completely reasonable, much like the God-hater contingent at LP felt about posting Christian viewpoints on the forums there.
Uh-huh. So that's what Goldi was trying to do. So just how many news threads completely unrelated to religion should Goldi have allowed to be hijacked into theology before she wouldn't get accused of conducting her own Katyn massacre of helpless LP users living under her jackbooted Soviet regime? She's dead now. And no one got sent to a gulag. Some petty people did storm out acting like Goldi had tried to nail them to a cross and posted a lot of hurtful drivel about her, mostly here on LF. And I think you all are ashamed now (or should be) for how unkind you were to a sick woman who occasionally had a little outburst on some minor issue on a forum she spent a lot of money to run so people could post freely. Don't let your guilty conscience deceive you. Some of you mistreated Goldi at least as much as you claim she mistreated you. Don't expect anyone to seriously debate your nonsensical idea of LP as a Soviet gulag. It's ridiculous. What's next, doubling down to compare Goldi to the commandant of Auschwitz? My opinion is some of this LP dreck should be cleaned up and this forum should make a new start. Same applies for some of the attack threads on 4um. Or personal attack threads on me or tpaine. For that matter, using the articles sidebar as a text message service makes LF look a little unhinged. And those Boris threads that are a single-post quote from FR or LP? Good grief, do I even need to say it? How valuable is that stuff to keep around and how much does it make LF look like a nest of kooks to people who might wander in here and be interested in joining? Our sidebar and headlines are very important to LF's reputation and ability to attract and keep new users. It's that simple.
"Petty people"? Unlike YOU (a supposed "Christian") some of us defended the faith and were repulsed that we were maligned as "Jesus fanatics." So, who is principled? You or those you call, "petty people"? And I think you all are ashamed now (or should be) for how unkind you were to a sick woman who occasionally had a little outburst on some minor issue on a forum she spent a lot of money to run so people could post freely. YOU should be shamed for pathetically pulling out this thread, trying to shame Christians for defending their faith, and standing on principle. It is absolutely shameful to also pull out the "sick woman" card, when NO one knew if or whther Goldi was "sick." Talk about petty? Look into a mirror. You've just embarrassed yourself. You're LF's shit-stirring Al Sharpton as far as I'm concerned.
But you shouldn't be ashamed for a petty backstabbing cross-forum attack thread? Because you had nothing better to talk about yourself here at LF? Then there were the endless Goldi-vomit-vomit-vomit-we're-in-Auschwitz threads. All because you weren't allowed to hijack every thread at LP to shove religion at Goldi or Marguerite or meguro or whoever? You had a Religion category at LP too. Know what, it didn't get much use. So that was why those posters had to come out of their own Religion category so they could proselytize their way across the entire forum. Same kind of behavior you see from Truthers who turn everything into another conspiracy, another bit of Truth, and an excuse to make sly references to the Matrix as though only they grasp the plot (which has been around since the Fifties). About as welcome as Mormons and JWs knocking on your front door.
Serious question. You don't see Christianity as a worldview? In which people live by a certain morality and apply such to politics, culture and society? What I posed above is close to what Gary posed to Goldi about 3 years ago. She conceded he was correct. On the effort to proselytize? I have to say it is not proselytizing to proclaim one's Christian worldview on the evils of abortion, the Alinsky tactics of the homosexual lobby and the general eroding of the family base in America. Pointing out America is in the crapper due to secularism and a rejection our Judeo Christian founding is not proselytizing. It is pointing out the giant wart on the tip of the nose everyone pretends to not see. Let the children…be carefully instructed in the principles and obligations of the Christian religion. This is the most essential part of education. - Benjamin Rush -
So you'd be fine with some aggressive JWs and Mormons and Muslims and Buddhists to come to your news forum to enjoy their own freedom of speech and to proclaim their worldview too? Are you sure you favor that if you are in a minority? How much Mormon preaching and theology do you want to have on general news threads of all types? I don't favor it at all on news threads. Let news be news and religion be religion. There isn't that much crossover between the two in news stories. Look down the list of Drudge's stories. They are some type of news (world, national, health/medicine, legal, policing, etc.) or religion. The only real issue with Goldi was that she didn't want every news thread she (and the rest of us) clicked to go a couple of posts and turn into a 20-page theological debate. BTW, I see jwpegler is spending money to produce his site from a big media company. He's doing his best to copy some familiar elements from these P sites (menus, categories). A lot of slick Bootstrap.js and CSS to make it run well on tablets and cellphones and it appears ready to run on touch screen devices. He provides an article title and photo and a link to the source website and he provides a comments thread (with no news article on it). Technically proficient but still looks kinda sterile and lame. I'm not sure what direction he will take with it. It has to be costing him even if they are just adapting a generic template design they offer to other customers. The company's site is surprisingly barren overall. I may be overestimating them. There's little doubt his designer has been visiting the P forums, LP or LF most likely.
-2- Are you sure you favor that if you are in a minority? How much Mormon preaching and theology do you want to have on general news threads of all types? -3- I don't favor it at all on news threads. Let news be news and religion be religion. There isn't that much crossover between the two in news stories. Look down the list of Drudge's stories. They are some type of news (world, national, health/medicine, legal, policing, etc.) or religion. -4- The only real issue with Goldi was that she didn't want every news thread she (and the rest of us) clicked to go a couple of posts and turn into a 20-page theological debate. -1- This isn't my forum, but I personally have no problem with civil free speech. I don't mind hearing the views of different faiths, I often enjoy the discussion. -2- The internet is a really big place. If I ever felt uncomfortable somewhere, then I would find another place. After all, that's why I came here in the first place -- to be at a site where posting about Christianity was OK. -3- For some people, religion affects every part of their life. If their posts are really that offensive to you, then why not just bozo them and not worry about it? -4- That wasn't happening there and hasn't been happening here. IMHO, people who are offended by the occasional mention of Christian beliefs are really being quite hypersensitive. Like I said, many of us came here specifically to have the freedom to talk about religious stuff -- so why should it be changed now?
You miss the point entirely. At LP, every thread was fair game for threadjacking into theology. Certainly, there were many off-topic postings on various topics but changing a thread into a religious discussion was by far the most common one. That was what annoyed Goldi, that is what it was all about. And, I have to say, the martyr routine wears a little thin after a while. It is not the second coming of Stalin for any website to expect users to post religious posts in, yes, the Religion category.
And, I have to say, the martyr routine wears a little thin after a while. It is not the second coming of Stalin for any website to expect users to post religious posts in, yes, the Religion category. Again, IMHO you are exaggerating. You accuse us of the "martyr routine" and yet you are acting like threads were being disrupted by a small amount of religious commentary. Have you looked around this site and not comprehended that Stone is cool with Jesus Christ being mentioned? It's like someone moving to Salt Lake City and freaking out that there are lots of Mormons around. I and pretty much everyone else that I see have been posting in the proper categories. If it "makes you want to vomit" when a subject just happens to be both political and religious, then I would advise you to avoid all news stories which might contain such subjects -- which will be a pretty big list. Or just bozo people who make commentary that you dislike. Or find an atheist forum. Or make a forum of your own where you can discriminate against Christians to your hearts content. And if you honestly believe that people pay money to JimRob because of the awesome moderating at TOS, then LOL, I'll just have to agree to disagree. I think that it's more that some folks are dumb enough to think that a chat site using 90's technology needs mega-bucks to stay in operation. I came here because this site lets Christians speak freely, so again -- why do you feel that it should be changed from that? That's what really boggles my mind.
#166. To: Orthodoxa (#161)
(Edited)
Small amounts? Apparently you never read many of them. There was far far less religion on LP's Religion threads than there was on the hard news threads. And I am not exaggerating.
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#19. To: Orthodoxa (#15)
Thankfully, we had this site to come to when LP started to head towards the Soviet-style "freedom from religion" censorship.
#23. To: TooConservative (#19)
Soviet? Seriously?
#52. To: Orthodoxa, liberator, tpaine, redleghunter, Devil Anse, A K A Stone (#23)
Ordinary people who went to Church would be tracked by the NKVD and later the KGB and punished for openly displaying their belief in Jesus Christ, because much like the God-Haters at LP, they were offended if they had to see someone openly being a Christian or talking about it.
#97. To: TooConservative, Orthodoxa, tpaine, redleghunter, outdamned spot, Don, Devil Anse, A K A Stone (#52)
(Edited)
Some petty people did storm out acting like Goldi had tried to nail them to a cross and posted a lot of hurtful drivel about her, mostly here on LF.
#119. To: Liberator (#97)
YOU should be shamed for pathetically pulling out this thread, trying to shame Christians for defending their faith, and standing on principle. It is absolutely shameful to also pull out the "sick woman" card, when NO one knew if or whther Goldi was "sick."
#135. To: TooConservative, GarySpFc, Vicomte13, liberator, A K A Stone (#119)
You had a Religion category at LP too. Know what, it didn't get much use. So that was why those posters had to come out of their own Religion category so they could proselytize their way across the entire forum.
#152. To: redleghunter (#135)
On the effort to proselytize? I have to say it is not proselytizing to proclaim one's Christian worldview on the evils of abortion, the Alinsky tactics of the homosexual lobby and the general eroding of the family base in America. Pointing out America is in the crapper due to secularism and a rejection our Judeo Christian founding is not proselytizing. It is pointing out the giant wart on the tip of the nose everyone pretends to not see.
#155. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#152)
-1- So you'd be fine with some aggressive JWs and Mormons and Muslims and Buddhists to come to your news forum to enjoy their own freedom of speech and to proclaim their worldview too?
#159. To: Orthodoxa (#155)
-3- For some people, religion affects every part of their life. If their posts are really that offensive to you, then why not just bozo them and not worry about it?
#161. To: TooConservative (#159)
You miss the point entirely. At LP, every thread was fair game for threadjacking into theology. Certainly, there were many off-topic postings on various topics but changing a thread into a religious discussion was by far the most common one. That was what annoyed Goldi, that is what it was all about.
Replies to Comment # 161. ...and yet you are acting like threads were being disrupted by a small amount of religious commentary.
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