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Title: "Militant Atheist" Endorses Stalinist Censorship for "religious fanatics" at LP; Exposed as a Hypocrite
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Liberty Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=348566&Disp=525#C525
Published: Oct 13, 2014
Author: Redleghunter
Post Date: 2014-10-13 14:15:07 by Liberator
Keywords: MilitantAtheist, HypocritalLibertarian, FauxConstitutionalist
Views: 83802
Comments: 168
#525. To: tpaine, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, listener (#502)
LOL you are a piece of work. What about the libertarian, CT and homosexual lobby fanatics who post here? Mr. Libertarian you can't silence one philosophical voice or view, let all others opine and expect to be called libertarian.
Mr. Constitution I and every person of faith or religion has a First Amendment Right to freely exercise our religion AND as with all Americans the freedom of speech. Now if Goldi wants to limit those rights on her forum fine, but call it "Limited Libertypost" to accurately portray the site.
For someone who opines daily on the rights of individuals yet wants a particular philosophical thought suppressed is complete hypocrisy.
Please examine yourself.
Redleghunter is apparently one of those "religious fanatics" tpaine referred to. Tpaine -- a HUGE so-called "constitutionalist" and crusader for libertarianism -- was emboldened and still intoxicated and inspired by Goldi-Lox's "fanatic jesus"/you make me VOMIT!" comment.
Will Mr. Constitution "comprende" Hunting Season when its declared on hypocritical Libertarians? Chyeah, Paine -- We ALL saw what happened when one Closet Christian-Hater got called out on his fake "libertarian" and select memory of the US Constitution.
(Tpaine):"We've all seen what happened at FR when religious fanaticism took too much control. Goldie doesn't want it to happen here. Comprende?"
Poster Comment:
Tpaine -- yet another closeted out-of-the-woodwork Stalinist libertarian/Militant Atheist and anti-Christian -- was exposed and called out for his utter and complete blatant hypocrisy. Courtesy, redleghunter..
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#85. To: sneakypete (#83)
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Historically you are. Deal with it. No sane person will concur with you. Moreover, can you tell the class just which Christians have coerced and forced you to convert?? And was it by the sword or gun? Were you tortured? Tick...tick...tick...
ROTFLOL, you win the internets for today, Excaliber! I doubt that Pete would enjoy being relegated to an atheist ghetto, and I certainly wouldn't want that. I enjoy talking to him.
You mean as in "coercion"?? Threat? Yes. In real life you do it by trying to get laws changed so you can use the force of government to enforce your views. Here on the internet,you go after bannings and Viking Kitty attacks.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You're not making ANY sense. Don't get involved in these issues if you can't back up your dopey charges with lies. You'll lose every time. BASE ON FACTS. And the Truth.
Were you around 15 years ago on the FR when A + bert was there ! He crashed in ... just like OWK did --- on the freedumbkkkforum !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Are those laws about converting you to Christianity? Any coercion or threats involved? Yes or No?
Thank you for finally admitting that in America religions can NOT have the government enforce their religious viewpoints on the citizens. Freedom OF religion is the same thing as Freedom FROM religion. It all depends on your point of view. YOUR POV states that people shouldn't be allowed to be non-believers.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
DUH. Indeed. If you can't,just admit it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
ROFLMAO!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Everybody that isn't a member of a religious cult is a atheist,right,Bubba?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Most people with a open mind about history know full well that Christians and people of all religions other than communism were persecuted,but we also know the persecution was greatly exaggerated by the Christian leadership in the west as a tool to increase their power and fund-raising. I grew up being told and believing that the communists had banned Christianity in the USSR,and ALL the churches were destroyed and all the true believers were sent off to labor camps or executed. 10 percent truth,and 90 percent propaganda/lies.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Nobody forces me to do anything. That's not saying none have tried.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
"Petty people"? Unlike YOU (a supposed "Christian") some of us defended the faith and were repulsed that we were maligned as "Jesus fanatics." So, who is principled? You or those you call, "petty people"? And I think you all are ashamed now (or should be) for how unkind you were to a sick woman who occasionally had a little outburst on some minor issue on a forum she spent a lot of money to run so people could post freely. YOU should be shamed for pathetically pulling out this thread, trying to shame Christians for defending their faith, and standing on principle. It is absolutely shameful to also pull out the "sick woman" card, when NO one knew if or whther Goldi was "sick." Talk about petty? Look into a mirror. You've just embarrassed yourself. You're LF's shit-stirring Al Sharpton as far as I'm concerned.
Atheism is nothing but a dogmatic religion by another name. They do more damn preaching than most ministers/priests/rabbis,etc,etc,etc. They are the mirror image of the fundie Bible Thumper that insists that everyone else MUST agree with their views and live according to them.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Thank you. Now will you withdraw your prior dopey claims that Christian = Muslims?
I don't lie and you know it. Accusing me of lying is just proof of how emotional and desperate you are on this issue.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
There was NO reason to exaggerate ANY thing regarding Soviet-Stalinist Russian. It was what it was.
Are those laws about converting you to Christianity? No,they are about forcing me at gunpoint to live according to your Christian version of Sharia Law. Any coercion or threats involved? Yes or No? Yes. Starting with fines and evolving to time in prison.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ok. Call it "GRAND DELUSIONS." Happy now? Man, you just can NOT ever let this go. I feel bad for you because someone, some way long ago you've been mess with. And it's scarred you apparently for life. Based on these few experiences, ALL Chrisrians are "Taliban." Or Muzzie (whatever is worst.) It's ridiculous.
Then whomever did so committed a criminal act (however, they did NOT act upon ANY Biblical/Christian principles -- know THAT.) Did you report it to the proper authorities at the time?
I didn't say that Christians are the same as Muslims. The faiths are different,and so are the cultures. What I wrote is that you both follow the same strategy of using the force of law to force others to live by your views of morality.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Then why did you and why do you continue to do so?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Practicing lines for your own Hitler spoof? LOL
Pluralism vs PC Dieversity ! You've made your choice ! pcpete !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Gee, what a surpise. As at LP, you've also annointed yourself Fuehrer-Mod of LF? But...I thought we already had a mod? AND owner?
These are just chat sites. Yeah, we get it. YOU are the Grand Poobah and Poitus Pilate of Penguinite Forums, Goldi was not Stalinist, and "Jesus Fanatics" are "petty people." Geez, you're doing a LOT of whining and crying here. It's almost as though you harbor some VERY ill, hard feelings. Do you need your boo-boo kissed? If it makes you feel any better create a thread on ME. Yes, afterall LP and LF are JUST "chatrooms." So stop your belly-aching.
Yup. Amen on all that.
ALMOST good enough, USED to be smart enough, and..well...about being liked. Meh.
The internet will be a better place when Luberator signs off for good.
Back in the 1950's there was a Blue Law prohibiting retail sales on Sunday, in Ohio. It made weekend shopping tough.
LF has an entire Religion category. Much more prominent than a pinglist. I just wish you'd stop being so militant, pete! : )
Biffy, don't make me pull out the "Hot-Dog" thread.
Extended well into the 1960s. Well did it do? Forced workers and familiies to rest and perhaps spend Sunday together. AND fulfill the "rest on the seventh day" as suggested by the Bible. I seemed to recall some stores being open until the afternoon on Sunday.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, --- refers to freedom from STATE religion, and freedom OF religion. Thank you for conceding that point. The free exercise clause applies, and is quoted just above. Read much? Geez, is that all you religious fundamentalists can do is make silly slurs? I'm agnostic and barely smart enough to realize I don't know it all.
But you shouldn't be ashamed for a petty backstabbing cross-forum attack thread? Because you had nothing better to talk about yourself here at LF? Then there were the endless Goldi-vomit-vomit-vomit-we're-in-Auschwitz threads. All because you weren't allowed to hijack every thread at LP to shove religion at Goldi or Marguerite or meguro or whoever? You had a Religion category at LP too. Know what, it didn't get much use. So that was why those posters had to come out of their own Religion category so they could proselytize their way across the entire forum. Same kind of behavior you see from Truthers who turn everything into another conspiracy, another bit of Truth, and an excuse to make sly references to the Matrix as though only they grasp the plot (which has been around since the Fifties). About as welcome as Mormons and JWs knocking on your front door.
It all still doesn't explain how you'd concluded that Christianity, aka "religious fanaticism took too much control." Or the meme of how Goldie supposedly safeguarded LP from it as though it were an unchecked cancer. Christians did NOT monopolize or control the forum. Fact is, Free Speech was blunted. You endorsed it. And NO, there never was any such Christian "fanaticism" at LP. EVER.
Lol, you're now officially insane. I'd LOVE for you to back up that scurrilous charge. Backstabbing? Try "calling out." Fine, then defend your bullshit. Stop your endless moderating and straddling the fence of principle. When "fanatical Christians" were maligned and slandered, WHERE WERE YOU to defend the faith AND charge? (no where.) Invoking "Trutherism" wins you no debate either. It's the same as calling someone a "homophobe," racist," "anti-semetic", "Islamophobe," etc. Designed purely to shut down debate without examining all the facts. I'm not going to belabor that issue with you. If you want to believe Official Fairy Tales, who am I to tell you otherwise?
I thought there was little point in bothering to debate people whose chronic threadjacking habits were so undeniable. I never liked threadjacking. In the old days on Usenet (late 80's), we had mods who were quite strict about it.
Pete --- No,they are about forcing me at gunpoint to live according to your Christian version of Sharia Law. Lib --- Any coercion or threats involved? --- Yes or No Pete -- Yes. Starting with fines and evolving to time in prison. Lib -- And whomever did so committed a criminal act (however, they did NOT act upon ANY Biblical/Christian principles -- know THAT.) Did you report it to the proper authorities at the time? Here we have it sports fans, a clear example of liberators circular argument ploy. The argument is about religious 'shiria' style law, and liberators asserts that whoever violated that questionable 'law', committed a criminal act.. Round we go ....
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", --- refers to freedom from STATE religion, and freedom OF religion. Thank you for conceding that point. The free exercise clause applies, and is quoted just above. Read much? So you concede both of my points above, and now want to divert back to one of my comments at LP? I explained that comment on the thread you cited. Get off the circular argument bit. Because she made it so. You're entitled to your opinions. They are not facts.
Hey, you are trying to force your views. But you are failing ha ha. Keep on trying though ;)
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#86. To: Excalibur, sneakypete (#80)
Stone would you kindly create an atheist category so sneakypete doesn't clutter up the site with his militant atheism on every thread?
#87. To: Liberator (#70)
...You clearly want to force your religious viewpoints on everyone else.
#88. To: sneakypete (#83)
#89. To: Excalibur. owk (#77)
old grouch
#90. To: sneakypete (#87)
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In real life you do it by trying to get laws changed so you can use the force of government to enforce your views.
#91. To: Liberator (#72)
And that's "FREEDOM OF RELIGION," Einstein, in the context of freely worshipping as one pleases.
#92. To: Liberator (#73)
Define what you mean by "public square."
#93. To: Excalibur (#77)
Sneakypete doesn't appear to be to bright. He seems to think that the soviet union was a christian nation that was friendly to believers.
#94. To: Excalibur (#80)
Stone would you kindly create an atheist category so sneakypete doesn't clutter up the site with his militant atheism on every thread?
#95. To: Liberator (#82)
Most historically saavy people know fully well the perscution of Christians and Orthodox in the Soviet Union.
#96. To: Liberator (#85)
Moreover, can you tell the class just which Christians have coerced and forced you to convert??
#97. To: TooConservative, Orthodoxa, tpaine, redleghunter, outdamned spot, Don, Devil Anse, A K A Stone (#52)
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Some petty people did storm out acting like Goldi had tried to nail them to a cross and posted a lot of hurtful drivel about her, mostly here on LF.
#98. To: Orthodoxa (#86)
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I doubt that Pete would enjoy being relegated to an atheist ghetto,
#99. To: sneakypete (#96)
Nobody forces me to do anything.
#100. To: Liberator (#88)
Don't get involved in these issues if you can't back up your dopey charges with lies.
#101. To: sneakypete (#95)
Most people with a open mind about history know full well that Christians and people of all religions other than communism were persecuted,but we also know the persecution was greatly exaggerated by the Christian leadership in the west as a tool to increase their power and fund-raising.
#102. To: Liberator (#90)
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In real life you do it by trying to get laws changed so you can use the force of government to enforce your views.
#103. To: sneakypete (#100)
I don't lie and you know it.
#104. To: sneakypete (#102)
Yes. Starting with fines and evolving to time in prison.
#105. To: Liberator (#99)
Now will you withdraw your prior dopey claims that Christian = Muslims?
#106. To: Liberator (#101)
There was NO reason to exaggerate ANY thing regarding Soviet-Stalinist Russian.
#107. To: TooConservative, Orthodoxa, tpaine, redleghunter, Devil Anse, A K A Stone (#52)
Don't expect anyone to seriously debate your nonsensical idea of LP as a Soviet gulag. It's ridiculous. What's next, doubling down to compare Goldi to the commandant of Auschwitz?
#108. To: sneakypete (#102)
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Christian version of Sharia Law
#109. To: TooConservative (#52)
My opinion is some of this LP dreck should be cleaned up and this forum should make a new start.
#110. To: TooConservative (#58)
Goldi was not a Soviet commissar and these complainers are not exactly martyrs on the march for the Church Militant and Triumphant.
#111. To: Don (#59)
I see that the usual clique of Athiests have found their way here. Christ is still Lord and while non - believers can't stand too see His name, facts don't change. He is still in charge and will remain so for all eternity.
#112. To: TooConservative, CZ82 (#57)
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and, doggone it, people like me.
#113. To: All (#0)
#114. To: Liberator, sneakypete (#104)
Blue laws in the United States
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#115. To: sneakypete (#74)
I even went so far as to create a "Religious Issues" ping list here and on LP so they would have a place to go to discuss religious issues with each other.
#116. To: Biff Tannen (#113)
#117. To: hondo68 (#114)
Back in the 1950's there was a Blue Law prohibiting retail sales on Sunday, in Ohio. It made weekend shopping tough.
#118. To: Liberator (#72)
Me: "Certain strains of libertarians and atheists still believe that 'freedom from religion'' is a constitutional 'right.'
Yes, the MOSTLY Christian Founders are THE ones who specified that no STATE religion be enforced or coerced upon the citizenry as a matter of Constitutionality.
And that's "FREEDOM OF RELIGION," Einstein, in the context of freely worshipping as one pleases.
Geez -- have you militant Atheists sufficient Kleenexes on this thread??
#119. To: Liberator (#97)
YOU should be shamed for pathetically pulling out this thread, trying to shame Christians for defending their faith, and standing on principle. It is absolutely shameful to also pull out the "sick woman" card, when NO one knew if or whther Goldi was "sick."
#120. To: tpaine (#118)
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#121. To: TooConservative (#119)
All because you weren't allowed to hijack every thread at LP to shove religion at Goldi or Marguerite or meguro or whoever?
#122. To: Liberator (#121)
When "fanatical Christians" were maligned and slandered, WHERE WERE YOU to defend the faith AND charge? (no where.)
#123. To: Liberator, sneakypete, Y'ALL (#104)
Liberator (#90) -- Are those laws about converting you to Christianity?
#124. To: Liberator (#120)
Yes, the MOSTLY Christian Founders are THE ones who specified that no STATE religion be enforced or coerced upon the citizenry as a matter of Constitutionality.
And that's "FREEDOM OF RELIGION," Einstein, in the context of freely worshipping as one pleases.
It all still doesn't explain how you'd concluded that Christianity, aka "religious fanaticism took too much control."
Or the meme of how Goldie supposedly safeguarded LP from it as though it were an unchecked cancer. Christians did NOT monopolize or control the forum.
Fact is, Free Speech was blunted. You endorsed it. And NO, there never was any such Christian "fanaticism" at LP. EVER.
#125. To: sneakypete (#30)
you clearly want to force your religious viewpoints on everyone else.
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