Title: Freedom4um a site that supports terrorism? People Joking Around? Serious? Honey Pot?. Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Jul 29, 2014 Author:A K A Stone Post Date:2014-07-29 06:29:12 by A K A Stone Keywords:None Views:32377 Comments:71
The posters at freedom4um are taking the sides of the terrorists attacking Israel. I can't believe the stupidity/evil/ignorance.
Never before have these vile subhumans been so exposed to daylight. Only the most mind numb among us still buys the Jewish propaganda streamed at us 24x7.
Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans.
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-07-29 14:07:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Terrorist sympathizer supporter.
What would Jethro (who was a pig) do if a few miles away some Hamas terrorists decided to shoot missiles at you by the thousands. I bet Jethro would be pissed off.
But Jethro is a coward. He is really hung up about the Jews defending themselves.
Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans.
Jethro Tull posted on 2014-07-29 15:31:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Like there was ever any doubt you were a nazi. Your papa must have been a German guard during WWII. Either that or are you are just fucked in the head.
Explain how Jews are nazis. It is your buddies Hamas that is calling for the complete destruction of Israel.
Israel doesn't have to let rockets rein down on them. Then they react and you get your panties in a wad.
In 1930's Nazi Germany, Jews were registered and moved into isolated areas where they could be controlled. This is very similar to Gazans who are barricaded, 1 to 2 million people in an area the size of a city. Further, they are isolated economically, unable to live normal lives in ways that most of the rest of the world takes for granted. The Israelis do not allow them to fish more than 6 KM off the coast, which is sometimes reduced to 3 KM. Is there any legitimate reason for that? Imports of fuel food and building materials are very restricted, and exports to support themselves are similarly restricted.
This has been the case for a long time. This is why I brand the actions of Israel similar to Nazi Germany. I find it very ironic that Jews are so keen on making sure no one forgets the holocaust, while at the same time they champion the isolation and deaths of those in Gaza. And yes, make no mistake that Israelis as a rule feel no remorse or compassion for the long standing plight of Gazans or Palestinians in general. For that matter, the Jewish faith teaches that non-Jews pretty much exist to serve Jews. That is wrong, just as Islam is wrong to teach the killing of anyone who does not accept Islam. It is a dangerous and elitist as the moral of the story is that Jews have spiritual sanction to use and abuse any non-Jews they like, and it absolutely gets in the way of any peace prospects in the region.
The conflict between Israel and Palestinians did not begin last month. It's been going on for many, many years, and Israel won't mind it going on for many, many more. You talk about how people want Israel wiped out. But what about the people that want the Gaza Strip wiped out? If Israel could get away with it, they'd literally push all the people there into the sea.
As for militant Gazans firing from civilian areas, I ask where else are they supposed to fire from? The Israeli military has forcibly cleared out some 40% of the Gaza strip creating a couple hundred thousand refugees in an already overcrowded area.
And it's well established that punishing people collectively for the criminal acts of a few is a war crime. And that is what Israel is ignoring.
Stone, do you believe God loves Jews more than he does non-Jews?
Stone, do you believe God loves Jews more than he does non-Jews?
I believe God hates sin. I know God hates Islam. I would say God gives every one a chance of what they are going to do. That if he loves some more or not regardless those who follow and do what he says will be rewarded with life and those who don't will be condemned to hell. By that definition every Muslim that truly believes the Koran would be going to the hot place. There would be Muslims and many others that turned to Jesus Christ that would be forgiven for all types of things.
Do you think God loves people who follow his word more then those who don't?
I'm not going to respond to everything, but it's apparent from your answers that you do indeed have a double standard. Jews get one standard and everyone else the other. You also stereotype Muslims with a broad brush, and basically find justification for the embargoed status of the Gaza Strip, even though such embargoes themselves foster a state of war, saying it's okay for them to be treated as subhumans, because, I guess, that's what they are in your eyes. Saying it's okay to restricting their ability to fish is beyond the pale, really.
Apparently Jews have a right to defend themselves, but not the Palestinians.
$600K per rocket, with 2000 fired? That comes to $1.2 billion dollars worth of ordinance, not counting what they've not fired. Such a statistic is laughable considering the poverty that exists in the GS.
The Old Testament has no shortage of instances where the ancient Israelites were supposedly commanded to kill all in the cities they took. That is clearly not a message of love to non-Jews.
For that matter, the Jewish faith teaches that non-Jews pretty much exist to serve Jews.
Where does it teach that? I would be most interested if you could elaborate.
Orthodox Jewry teaches this.
He said the world would all turn against israel in the last days.
A self-fulfilling prophecy. Those who believe this have no hope of ever getting along with the rest of the world, and use it as an assurance that any and all conflict they suffer through is not their fault, and therefore they never even try to be a peaceable, respectful people.
Stone, do you believe God loves Jews more than he does non-Jews?
Do you find it as peculiar as I do that you didn't answer this question?
I suppose that I should take that to mean the answer is "yes", even though it's clearly a non-Christian position.
I was for over 30 years, but truth be told, I'm not any more.
I do not believe the bible is the infallible "Word of God". Why? Well, for starters, the bible says it is appointed for us to live one life and be done, and I consider the evidence of reincarnation to be too overwhelming.
Reincarnation is hardly a new concept. It's been in existence for thousands of years in many cultures. I understand the idea was eradicated in the early christian church for political reasons. Namely, that scaring people into believing they only get one shot at life made them easier to control and manage by the Roman empire after it embraced christianity.
The work of Michael Newton and others show that the consistency of reports given by people from all walks of life, all cultures and religions, including Jews, demonstrate uniformly that reincarnation is a fact of our world and universe. Author Brian Weiss also writes of a present day Jewish woman who recited the entire Catholic Act of Contrition while under hypnosis recalling her dying as a young French Catholic woman a couple hundred years ago. Of course, this is a prayer that not one catholic in 10,000 could recite today, and it was done by a Jewish woman? Reincarnation is one element of many that all fit together to give the best explanation of life and our reason for existing, and it's a far better explanation than Christian theology or the theology of any other religion has ever offered, by far. The picture of everything is much cleaner, the love that we are the recipient of is much more than even christianity claims to offer.
The inescapable conclusion, at least for me and certainly many others, is that there is nothing special about Jews in comparison with any other people on earth. Nothing whatsoever. There is no such thing as a "chosen people".
Not that Christianity is wrong on all points. No faith is. The Golden Rule is spot on. The message of love for all is also spot on. The love that is the backbone of the story behind Jesus dying for mankind, and God giving his only son for mankind is a proper depiction of the love that is real, and I believe that accuracy is the reason why Christianity is a popular faith. However, the theology itself of Jesus dying on the cross as a necessity of salvation for man no longer works for me. Things work far, far better than that.
People subscribe to the Christian faith for a number of reasons. For many, they were raised that way. For others, it's the best hope for a reason for existence they've ever been exposed to. Others see the message of love in the Christian message and that resonates with them because on the spiritual level they recognize that love as real, and therefore assume the theology that comes with it must also be real. But any of those reasons are fine because it's not important what academic theology is in one's brain. What's important is whether they use their talents to help and love others or to hurt others and only help themselves.
1 And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; Lk. 5.1-3 and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land. 2 And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine, 3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: 4 and it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the wayside, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up. 5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth: 6 but when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit. 8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased, and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some a hundred. 9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. 10 ¶ And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12 that seeing they may see, and not perceive;
and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Is. 6.9, 10 13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables? 14 The sower soweth the word. 15 And these are they by the wayside, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. 16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; 17 and have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. 18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, 19 and the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. 20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some a hundred.
Here's an interview of Michael Newton. What I like about him is all the information he gives, both here and in his books, is based on what his clients have told him while under hypnosis. That as opposed to him spouting off colorful, poetic thoughts like some kind of charismatic mystic. He's very objective and scientific in his approach to this subject, listening to his clients as they speak from a hypnotic state.
If you are open minded about other explanations aside from Biblical Christianity about the spirit world and the purpose of life, I recommend you put your current beliefs on the shelf for just a short while and read Michael Newton's book "Journey of Souls". Electronic versions of it can be found on the net. You may agree with me that the truth needs no defence, so if Chistianity is in fact the truth, and Michael Newton is wrong, then there should be no harm in considering MH's work. If nothing else, you'll be better versed on the subject so you can tell people like me why and where I'm wrong. For my part, I found his books extremely interesting and IMO, they make a lot more sense than the Bible does as it corroborates my own experience and perceptions in life much, much better, to the point where I simply cannot ignore it.
