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Title: Conservatives begin backing away after Cliven Bundy’s racist remarks
Source: The Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/ ... remarks-disparaging-the-negro/
Published: Apr 24, 2014
Author: Arturo Garcia
Post Date: 2014-04-24 08:27:02 by Jameson
Keywords: Bundy, Racist
Views: 15419
Comments: 36

Republican politicians began backtracking on their support of Nevada anti- government rancher Cliven Bundy after the New York Times caught Bundy making racially-inflammatory remarks blaming African-Americans for willingly submiting to dependency on federal assistance.

“They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton,” Bundy was quoted as saying to a group of supporters last Saturday. “And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

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#1. To: Jameson (#0)

Bundy Ranch Saturday, April 19

Go to Bundy's comments at 17 minutes into the video. Dumb as hell for him to comment on race issues. The Left is now using this against every conservative who is even tangentially connected with the issue of government abuse of land ownership.

They are going after Greg Abbott: A List of Cliven Bundy's Supporters, Now That We Know He's a Pro-Slavery Racist

Abcdefg  posted on  2014-04-24   12:21:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Abcdefg, Jameson (#1)

There is nothing racist. Here is the full unedited version.

Tell me where the racism is.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-25   8:37:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Tell me where the racism is.

This hump is talking specifically about African Americans.

He states that "maybe" black people would be better off as slaves. "BETTER OFF"

He is only talking about Black people - he IS NOT talking about all poor people - only the poor who have brown skin.

That makes him a racist.

I'm certain you can understand that.

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-25   12:44:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jameson (#3)

That makes him a racist.

Bullshit.

Abcdefg  posted on  2014-04-27   0:46:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Abcdefg (#6)

That makes him a racist.

Bullshit.

Your failure to understand this simple fact makes you no better than him.

Think about that. Do you wish to be seen in the same light as this ass?

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-27   7:47:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jameson (#8)

Your failure to understand this simple fact makes you no better than him.

If you are giong to say he is a racist. You owe it to say specifically what he said that is racist. Just look at the video and say comments between x and y.

Thanks. I know you want to be an honest debater.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-27   20:45:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

If you are going to say he is a racist. You owe it to say specifically what he said that is racist.

This "man" is a racist, not because I say he is a racist, but because this is an example of what he believes:

“They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton,” “And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property"...less than a whole human being....he is talking about Americans....our brothers and sisters in freedom.

Stone, this isn't a debate. This man is a very poor excuse for an American and an even worse excuse for a human being.

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   12:18:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jameson (#11)

This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property".

I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that.

Slavery was obviously wrong. But it is a true statement that some were better off.

The child victims of black mothers who take them butcher to be cut up are certainly worse off.

Others too.

Do you deny that?

Just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't make them racist.

If you had to come up with a definition of "racism", what would it be?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-28   19:09:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15)

This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property".

I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that.

"...I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that..."

unacceptable

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   21:15:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jameson (#16)

This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property". I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that.

"...I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that..."

unacceptable

The truth is unacceptable? Do you think a kid murdered by their parents would have been better off as a slave of George Wahsington where they were taken care of and had some freedom?

You're stuck on stupid.

Slavery wasn't good. But it is dishonest to say that some of them weren't better off.

Get off your stupid horse.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   7:16:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Do you think a kid murdered by their parents would have been better off as a slave of George Wahsington where they were taken care of and had some freedom?

Slavery wasn't good. But it is dishonest to say that some of them weren't better off.

Not even a valid argument.

Human beings are not property. To suggest otherwise is dishonest.

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   7:31:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jameson (#21)

Do you think a kid murdered by their parents would have been better off as a slave of George Wahsington where they were taken care of and had some freedom? Slavery wasn't good. But it is dishonest to say that some of them weren't better off.

Not even a valid argument.

Human beings are not property. To suggest otherwise is dishonest.

We're not talking about humans being property. We are talking about if some people were better off. Some were. Even if it is 1 percent. Some were.

It shouldn't be but it is true.

The government owns you. They own whatever percent of your labor that they take. And you support it. So you support slavery and oppose it. It just depends on who is the master. You like the faceless soulless laws that are at this point a part of a machine that none of us can control. It is a system that has been corrupted. You are a slave to it. We all are.

The masses have become dumb asses.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   9:07:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#25)

We're not talking about humans being property. We are talking about if some people were better off.

I disagree, bundy's entire point was "wondering often" whether or not black people were better off as property. That is what slavery was. AND it was wrong.

"...The government owns you. They own whatever percent of your labor that they take. And you support it. So you support slavery..."

It is foolish to compare taxation to slavery, the two are drastically different.

Are you suggesting that just as slavery is evil and cannot be allowed to exist, that all taxation is equally evil?

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   12:38:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jameson (#28)

It is foolish to compare taxation to slavery, the two are drastically different.

They are the same. They both steal the fruits of YOUR labor.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-30   7:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)

They are the same. They both steal the fruits of YOUR labor.

Slavery is far, far worse than "stealing the fruits of one's labor"

As for taxation.....are you an Anarchist now?

Jameson  posted on  2014-04-30   7:59:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: Jameson (#30)

Slavery is far, far worse than "stealing the fruits of one's labor"

As for taxation.....are you an Anarchist now?

Of course slavery is worse. The way taxes are imposed makes us 30 to 50 percent slaves aprox.

Of courses taxes are necessary. But they should be flat. Taxes shouldn't go to support food stamp parasites. Taxes are for things like roads, defense, infrastructure, fair court system to intermediate disputes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-30 08:52:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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