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Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Cult Watch See other Cult Watch Articles Title: Conservatives begin backing away after Cliven Bundy’s racist remarks Source: The Raw Story URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/ ... remarks-disparaging-the-negro/ Published: Apr 24, 2014 Author: Arturo Garcia Post Date: 2014-04-24 08:27:02 by Jameson Keywords: Bundy, Racist Views: 15433 Comments: 36 Republican politicians began backtracking on their support of Nevada anti- government rancher Cliven Bundy after the New York Times caught Bundy making racially-inflammatory remarks blaming African-Americans for willingly submiting to dependency on federal assistance. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton,” Bundy was quoted as saying to a group of supporters last Saturday. “And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Jameson (#0) Bundy Ranch Saturday, April 19 Go to Bundy's comments at 17 minutes into the video. Dumb as hell for him to comment on race issues. The Left is now using this against every conservative who is even tangentially connected with the issue of government abuse of land ownership. They are going after Greg Abbott: A List of Cliven Bundy's Supporters, Now That We Know He's a Pro-Slavery Racist Abcdefg  posted on  2014-04-24   12:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Abcdefg, Jameson (#1) There is nothing racist. Here is the full unedited version. Tell me where the racism is. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-25   8:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: A K A Stone (#2) Tell me where the racism is. This hump is talking specifically about African Americans. He states that "maybe" black people would be better off as slaves. "BETTER OFF" He is only talking about Black people - he IS NOT talking about all poor people - only the poor who have brown skin. That makes him a racist. I'm certain you can understand that. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-25   12:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: A K A Stone (#2) I see you're having the same problems here with people who are so politically correct they can't think straight as Goldi is at LP. "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." CZ82  posted on  2014-04-25   16:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Jameson (#0) Fuck 'em. It ain't like they were gonna win the black vote before Bundy opened his mouth. Logsplitter  posted on  2014-04-26   22:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Jameson (#3) That makes him a racist. Bullshit. Abcdefg  posted on  2014-04-27   0:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Logsplitter (#5) It ain't like they were gonna win the black vote before Bundy opened his mouth. Bundy opening his mouth is a non-issue, he's clearly a whack-job. The problem for the right-wing is that they continue to immediately move to defend and support his beliefs. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-27   7:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Abcdefg (#6) That makes him a racist. Bullshit. Your failure to understand this simple fact makes you no better than him. Think about that. Do you wish to be seen in the same light as this ass? Jameson  posted on  2014-04-27   7:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Jameson (#8) You see racism where it doesn't exist, so your opinion on the matter is meaningless. Abcdefg  posted on  2014-04-27   19:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Jameson (#8) Your failure to understand this simple fact makes you no better than him. If you are giong to say he is a racist. You owe it to say specifically what he said that is racist. Just look at the video and say comments between x and y. Thanks. I know you want to be an honest debater. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-27   20:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: A K A Stone (#10) If you are going to say he is a racist. You owe it to say specifically what he said that is racist. This "man" is a racist, not because I say he is a racist, but because this is an example of what he believes: “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton,” “And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property"...less than a whole human being....he is talking about Americans....our brothers and sisters in freedom. Stone, this isn't a debate. This man is a very poor excuse for an American and an even worse excuse for a human being. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   12:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Abcdefg (#9) You see racism where it doesn't exist, so your opinion on the matter is meaningless. You choose to overlook racism, you should be ashamed. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   12:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Jameson (#11) They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton,” “And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” So what (in that statement you posted) is untrue? "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." CZ82  posted on  2014-04-28   14:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: CZ82 (#13) So what (in that statement you posted) is untrue? "...They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom...” Why do you refuse to see this? Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   17:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Jameson (#11) This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property". I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that. Slavery was obviously wrong. But it is a true statement that some were better off. The child victims of black mothers who take them butcher to be cut up are certainly worse off. Others too. Do you deny that? Just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't make them racist. If you had to come up with a definition of "racism", what would it be? A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-28   19:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: A K A Stone (#15) This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property". I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that. "...I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that..." unacceptable Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   21:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: A K A Stone (#15) Just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't make them racist. If you are not offended by this JO's creed.......maybe that makes you a racist. Your should think about that..... Jameson  posted on  2014-04-28   21:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Jameson (#16) This POS believes that black people were better off when they were "property". I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that. "...I'm sure some of them were. I am positive of that..." unacceptable The truth is unacceptable? Do you think a kid murdered by their parents would have been better off as a slave of George Wahsington where they were taken care of and had some freedom? You're stuck on stupid. Slavery wasn't good. But it is dishonest to say that some of them weren't better off. Get off your stupid horse. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   7:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Jameson (#17) If you are not offended by this JO's creed.......maybe that makes you a racist. Some liberal on the internet that supports Obama murdering millions of kids through abortion has no credability to call anyone a racist. Obama is anti human. So are you because you voted for him. I think you did anyway. Maybe you said you didn't. Remember this...All Obama voters are murderers. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   7:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Jameson (#17) If you are not offended by this JO's creed.......maybe that makes you a racist. You sound like some PC little wuss who sits in a cubicle who is not a real man and doesn't have a clue about the real world. You sound like one of those metrosexuals. Which is as close to a faggot as you can get without being one. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   7:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: A K A Stone (#18) Do you think a kid murdered by their parents would have been better off as a slave of George Wahsington where they were taken care of and had some freedom? Slavery wasn't good. But it is dishonest to say that some of them weren't better off. Not even a valid argument. Human beings are not property. To suggest otherwise is dishonest. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   7:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: A K A Stone (#19) Remember this...All Obama voters are murderers. What a ridiculous comment. If you wish to place blame for the act of abortion, look to the mother and father of the unborn child, not the President of the United States. Confirmation bias. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   7:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: A K A Stone (#20) You sound like some PC little wuss who sits in a cubicle who is not a real man and doesn't have a clue about the real world. You sound like one of those metrosexuals. Which is as close to a faggot as you can get without being one. So, its come to this - Ad Hominem time. Classic - and disappointing. Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   7:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Jameson (#23) So, its come to this - Ad Hominem time. Classic - and disappointing. :) A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   9:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Jameson (#21) Do you think a kid murdered by their parents would have been better off as a slave of George Wahsington where they were taken care of and had some freedom? Slavery wasn't good. But it is dishonest to say that some of them weren't better off. Not even a valid argument. Human beings are not property. To suggest otherwise is dishonest. We're not talking about humans being property. We are talking about if some people were better off. Some were. Even if it is 1 percent. Some were. It shouldn't be but it is true. The government owns you. They own whatever percent of your labor that they take. And you support it. So you support slavery and oppose it. It just depends on who is the master. You like the faceless soulless laws that are at this point a part of a machine that none of us can control. It is a system that has been corrupted. You are a slave to it. We all are. The masses have become dumb asses. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   9:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: Jameson (#24) So, its come to this - Ad Hominem time. That started when you started calling people racists. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-29   9:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: A K A Stone (#26) That started when you started calling people racists. I've identified bundy as a racist. Otherwise - no Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   12:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: A K A Stone (#25) We're not talking about humans being property. We are talking about if some people were better off. I disagree, bundy's entire point was "wondering often" whether or not black people were better off as property. That is what slavery was. AND it was wrong. "...The government owns you. They own whatever percent of your labor that they take. And you support it. So you support slavery..." It is foolish to compare taxation to slavery, the two are drastically different. Are you suggesting that just as slavery is evil and cannot be allowed to exist, that all taxation is equally evil? Jameson  posted on  2014-04-29   12:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Jameson (#28) It is foolish to compare taxation to slavery, the two are drastically different. They are the same. They both steal the fruits of YOUR labor. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-30   7:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: A K A Stone (#29) They are the same. They both steal the fruits of YOUR labor. Slavery is far, far worse than "stealing the fruits of one's labor" As for taxation.....are you an Anarchist now? Jameson  posted on  2014-04-30   7:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Jameson (#30) Slavery is far, far worse than "stealing the fruits of one's labor" As for taxation.....are you an Anarchist now? Of course slavery is worse. The way taxes are imposed makes us 30 to 50 percent slaves aprox. Of courses taxes are necessary. But they should be flat. Taxes shouldn't go to support food stamp parasites. Taxes are for things like roads, defense, infrastructure, fair court system to intermediate disputes. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-04-30   8:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Jameson (#14) Freedom to do what, sit on the street corner all day shucking and jiving, walking around aimlessly with their pants down below their asses, stealing from somebody just because they have more than them? All the while depending on the government for some crumbs to stay alive? You call that free? (You sure have low expectations). If they were truly free they wouldn't be voting for the people you vote for because they would know better. And they would have the skills/education to be all they could be instead of depending on handouts for survival. They would live in much better neighborhoods, have a much higher standard of living and wouldn't be locked into generational welfare/food stamps. Now that's free. But for some reason certain people in this country won't allow that to happen, and I don't wonder why either. "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." CZ82  posted on  2014-05-03   15:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: CZ82 (#32) Freedom to do what, sit on the street corner all day shucking and jiving, walking around aimlessly with their pants down below their asses, stealing from somebody just because they have more than them? All the while depending on the government for some crumbs to stay alive? You call that free? So, are you suggesting that all African Americans should be owed as property and forced to labor against their will...? And your justification is that some black folks are poor. You're a piece of work. "...If they were truly free they wouldn't be voting for the people you vote for because they would know better..." So who did I vote for?? You're level of ignorance is astounding! "...If they were truly free they wouldn't be voting for the people you vote for because they would know better. And they would have the skills/education to be all they could be instead of depending on handouts for survival. They would live in much better neighborhoods, have a much higher standard of living and wouldn't be locked into generational welfare/food stamps..." I'd love to introduce you to some of my friends. They are African American, hold advanced degrees, are successful, professional, intelligent and quite well-off. In spite of the ridiculous, ignorant opinions of people like you. I think you would come away with a very different perspective....... Jameson  posted on  2014-05-04   18:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: Jameson (#33) So, are you suggesting that all African Americans should be owed as property and forced to labor against their will...? And your justification is that some black folks are poor. You're a piece of work. Reading between the lines again and not reading what's there, typical. "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." CZ82  posted on  2014-05-12   18:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Jameson (#33) (Edited) I'd love to introduce you to some of my friends. They are African American, hold advanced degrees, are successful, professional, intelligent and quite well-off. Which is what the majority of blacks should be doing or striving for. But for some reason they prefer the slavery of being dumb, having no skills, voting for handouts, voting for idiots and being on generational welfare and food stamps. So you can't blame the average run of the mill whitey/honky for their predicament (but you can blame some politicians for helping them stay that way) they're doing it to themselves. But you could admit to yourself that it is happening, or is your level of ignorance that outstanding? "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." CZ82  posted on  2014-05-12   19:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: Jameson (#33) . They are African American, What kind of American are you? There is no such thing as African American. It is just American. Or call them blacks. I mean you call us white people. You seem to like a lot of PC made up words. Homophobe, African American. Why don't you be consistent and call white people Europeon Americans. Why do you just hyphenate the blacks? A K A Stone  posted on  2014-05-13   6:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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