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Title: Question: What are Good Ideas for Preparing for Disaster?
Source: buckeroo
URL Source: http://here@LF.com
Published: Feb 26, 2014
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2014-02-26 22:41:14 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 44512
Comments: 95

The country is a mess. The state you live in is a mess. The county you live in is a mess. The city you live in is a mess. But what have you performed to prepare for disaster from any force whether manmade or natural?

Have you electrical power? Solar/NaturalGas/Propane/Gasoline Generator(s) to generate electricity for your various needs? Water? Food? Shelter? How about a library whether hardcover/paperback/electronic? What about personal defense?

The goal of this thread is to describe your ideas to become self-sufficient within reasonable personal means, independent of the messes that most know pre-exisit in an arbitrary world.

Make a comment about what you have performed and/or plan to do.

buck

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#56. To: Jameson (#55)

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

No, I'm a white guy!

Let me make a similar comment and tell me if it is racist.

Since affirmative action. Blacks have been given jobs that they never could have had before. Because whites are smarter.

I'm just playing devils advocate.

Blacks actually achieve better in sports such as basketball then whites do. I acknowledge that. But Whites tend to do better in getting an education.

Would you say that is genetic, coincidence or what?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   9:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)

Blacks actually achieve better in sports such as basketball then whites do.

Would you say that is genetic, coincidence or what?

I'll pick: "or what"

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   10:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#46)

Yeah, I know. Superstition is very strong in many people, always has been. Weak minds or deluded minds, I guess it makes little difference. The fall of mankind under Satan's tempting has degenerated many things.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   16:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: redleghunter, Bucky (#45)

Anyone who is serious about this can watch Doomsday Preppers. They are into this thing in a big way.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   16:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Don (#44)

Well, you could try Superman or Superwoman. They have proven they can survive.

This is good news for us, Donnie; I am confident that only you shall take your own recommendation as the gosple truth. However, since most of us are mere mortals and live in reality where history has proven that there are plenty of reasons about intelligently preparing for disasters, I am confused about your significant contribution to the thread.

What do you do when Lex Luther shows up? Show him your comick book or your Bible?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   20:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Don (#58)

Weak minds or deluded minds, I guess it makes little difference. The fall of mankind under Satan's tempting has degenerated many things.

Seek penance for your personal sins, Donnie. Be humble and grovel at the feet of your Sunday school teacher's feet for forgiveness; and don't forget to drop a buck into the offering tray thus providing you relief to your guilt and forever damnation. But, whatever you do, don't intelligently plan ... oh no, here is where you have to consult your Bible for some obscure passage that might be quickly interpreted by your Sunday school teacher as applicable for your neglect for family, friends and business.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#60)

When Lex shows up, I will simply refer him to you. See, problem solved.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   21:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#61)

Au contraire, mon ami. I plan all the time. When things are planned out to my satisfaction, I stop worrying about it. So far my planning has been spot on. I first trust in God to take care of me as He has promised to do. Then, I use common sense to do what I should. It has worked out so far. It has gotten me to my current age of 68, through 25 years in the military including a tour of duty in Vietnam, etc etc. I know that God is looking out for me and when I die, I know where I am going.

So, tell us about your planning.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   21:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Don (#62)

Impossible. My family and I shall be enjoying clear, sub-micron filtered, sparkling water with all kinds of added coffees, teas, milks, mochas and so forth, along with diversified 2K calorie freeze dried foods that allow a mere PRESTO! for preparation for some of the finest gourmet foods on the planet.

But you won't have any access to any of this stuff because of your choice about lack of planning. Nope. You have your comick books as your guide.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Don (#63)

I know that God is looking out for me and when I die, I know where I am going.

Your knowledge is by luck, by golly or by God! Doesn't sound like much of a plan.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#64)

I have a secret for you. That food doesn't sound that good. What happened to beef and veggies in your "plan".

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   23:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#65)

I can understand your thinking. You don't know anything about Him. He takes care of His people. He does allow the rain to fall and the sun to shine on the saved and unsaved; however, the bottom line is those who reject Him can easily get ignored when push comes to shove.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   23:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Don (#66)

What happened to beef and veggies in your "plan".

I didn't mention any specific food group other than a general way to ensure that you understood a 20+ year storage life capability for food: freeze dried method of food storage - this method applies to all organic or carbon based natural compounds both plant and animal; simply stated, the approach removes water for storage purposes within a vacuum chamber and when properly stored/packaged/handled, little loss of food content is achieved. Restoring a product is adding water, which I also mentioned as being pure sparlking water (slight alkaline content). Here is the brief content I suggested in the earlier post:

My family and I shall be enjoying clear, sub-micron filtered, sparkling water with all kinds of added coffees, teas, milks, mochas and so forth, along with diversified 2K calorie freeze dried foods that allow a mere PRESTO! for preparation for some of the finest gourmet foods on the planet.

Do I have to indicate all the food groups based on your omissions? If so, you need more than a brief post about being intelligently prepared for a disaster through planning - you need a complete education.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   0:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#68)

You don't know anything about Him.

Whom is "Him?" Where is "Him?" Are you talking about the "Great Pumpkin" that shall sprinkle all the good little boyz/girlz from the sky all the candy they want to have? Hmmm.

He takes care of His people.

"He" takes care of "His people?" Does "his people" have a pumpkin head like "he" does?

the bottom line is those who reject Him can easily get ignored when push comes to shove.

Prove it. Why do you limit your discussion to: those who reject "Him?" Don't you see a logical error in what you are suggesting? You have no more knowledge about God's actual sex than amoeba or even a rock buried under whale shit in the deepest part of the oceans on the planet.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   0:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: buckeroo (#68)

Bucky, you're a hoot. Keep it up. You do give laughs every so often.

Don  posted on  2014-03-05   9:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: buckeroo (#69)

You have no knowledge of God. When you rail against Him, you are showing your ignorance. You do try to be insulting to God and those who believe in Him. But, trust me Christians pay no attention to the nonsense of scoffers as we know Him and we know the end of non-believers. You have our pity and we will do what we can for you if you come to your senses and want to know Him as well.

There is only one name under Heaven by which you may be saved: Jesus Christ. If you want the reference in the Scriptures for that, let me know.

Don  posted on  2014-03-05   9:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Don (#70)

As usual, you have no rebuttal. I notice you don't add anything to the discussion other than you are embarrassingly amused.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   21:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Don (#71)

You have no knowledge of God.

I admit my ignorance, too. That is the reason for my perspective about a divine creator being a mystery; you, me nor anyone that has, is or shall walk this planet can not know ANYTHING about a divine creator. Moreover, your point is pointless directed towards me as it reflects your own tired ol'tyme religious zeal borrowed from some Sunday school teacher robbing you of your hard earned cash as though it was a "tithe in the name of Jesus." You have been swindled, pal.

When you rail against Him, you are showing your ignorance. You do try to be insulting to God and those who believe in Him. But, trust me Christians pay no attention to the nonsense of scoffers as we know Him and we know the end of non-believers. You have our pity and we will do what we can for you if you come to your senses and want to know Him as well.

Sorry, I mean no disrespect to you or anyone but you need to wake the fuck up and shake off this "Him" stuff that you have copied from some two-bit Sunday school teacher that also works as a snake oil salesman from Monday to Saturday. You expose yourself as a fool.

There is only one name under Heaven by which you may be saved: Jesus Christ. If you want the reference in the Scriptures for that, let me know.

OH horseshit! You don't know that anymore than your made-up God or "Him" or "Christian" religion that has intentionally murdered millions of People on the planet in some disgusting theocratic ritual that is later forgotten in the cobwebs of history.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   21:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: buckeroo (#72) (Edited)

Let me put it to you this way. When you start sounding like an Eastern potentate eating your little dainties, it is hard to take your post seriously. I don't even try.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   7:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo (#73) (Edited)

God Himself said people can know Him by His Creation. Read the first chapter of the Book of Romans. God also talks about the "wisdom" of this world. It doesn't compare with His wisdom.

I will give you this much. You do try to be insulting, but it doesn't work. Can you elaborate on millions of people killed in a ritual?

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   7:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Don (#74)

When you start sounding like an Eastern potentate eating your little dainties, it is hard to take your post seriously.

Hi Don - this thread is intended to discuss being prepared for disaster; there was no other intent other than at the top of the thread which has not been edited or changed or modified in any way.

This thread is NOT intended to be about about your "God" or "Him" or some make-believe religious study based or any religious doctrine pulled out of someone's ass in the past just because you believe in some form of ... ol'tyme religious tooth-faerie making you feel good and beam like a cock in the morning.

If anyone has been an authoritative jack-ass, it has been YOU. So far, all you have provided to the thread are off-topic commentaries about some Christian belief that measures up to your Sunday school teacher's pathetic rendering about the Bible. Also, you have posted dissent about having general and reasonable personal plans for having good drinkable, water and freeze-dried foods. You should feel embarrassed or have a sense of shame about how you have made this thread so important to YOU.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Don (#75)

God Himself said people can know Him by His Creation. Read the first chapter of the Book of Romans. God also talks about the "wisdom" of this world. It doesn't compare with His wisdom.

Donnie - what does your commentary have to do with anything that I have presented?

You do try to be insulting, but it doesn't work. Can you elaborate on millions of people killed in a ritual?

You require a historical education about religions of the world. But I am not going to provide that education to you. I suppose you can expect increasing condenscending remarcks from now and 'til your Jesus takes you upto the sky to play a harp and lay on a cloud.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: buckeroo (#76)

If you don't want an answer, don't ask the question. You asked about plans.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   20:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: buckeroo (#77)

You have been watching too many cartoons.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   20:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#76)

Here is one just for you,

Navy SEAL Says Prepare Your Blackout Kit [VIDEO]

http://patriotcaller.com/navy-seal-time-to-prepare-your-blackout-kit-video/

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   20:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Don (#78)

You asked about plans.

You don't have a plan at all other than suggesting some etheral, maejiick faerie from some distant, off-the-wall place in the Universe is going to save you because YOU "think" it is going to be that way. I guess, you it "Him."

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Don (#80)

I don't require your archaeic suggestion. But thanks for .... t-r-y-i-n-g. When you decide to become serious, just make a post on this thread.

Thanks in advance,

buck

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   20:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: buckeroo (#81)

It may not sound like a plan to you, but it is the only assured way of succeeding.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   21:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#82)

Wait a minute. Do you have a plan for when your lights go out and your freezing is defrosting? Are you sure your plan will work? Do you know how open to attack the U.S. Power grid is?

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   21:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Don (#84)

Yes. I have maintained a solar voltaic system at my primary residence for over six years. The system was designed by myself: it covers ALL requirements to fully keep the home electrically charged.

I also have backups beyond just that system. I have a natural gas to electrical unit to supply a mere 7K WATT/hrs. Even assuming that system blows out for some reason, I have a gasoline based to electrical generator for upto 7K WATT/hrs.

Nothing is perfect. But my family is prepared. How about you?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-06   21:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#85)

You don't have a wood stove and propane stoves. Oh yeah, we are ready.

Don  posted on  2014-03-06   23:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Don (#86)

I have no need for a wood stove. Yes, I have several propane stoves however they were purchased for camping; they could be utilised for a disaster, however.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   11:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#87)

Billy Graham sounds alarm for 2nd Coming

Famed evangelist sees signs ‘converging now for the 1st time’

Published: 10/20/2013

Evangelist Billy Graham

By Troy Anderson

And last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., claimed the world has entered the last days.

“When you see up is down and right is wrong, when this is happening, we were told this: that these days would be as the days of Noah,” Bachmann said.

“I see a fuse being lit here, between what Billy Graham, Michele Bachman and Benjamin Netanyahu said, and I think there is going to be an explosion of interest in the end times like nothing we’ve ever seen before,” McGuire said.

“The dramatic and unprecedented planetary climate change is something on the level of the apocalyptic predictions of the Bible,” McGuire said. “We’re on the verge right now, because of climate change, of massive food and water shortages, which could affect tens of millions of people worldwide because of the droughts that have occurred. The intense heat and water shortages have dried up the crops, and we are going to see that play out in the near future because of all the freak weather.”

Blood moons

Against this apocalyptic backdrop, prominent faith leaders such as Graham, Greg Laurie, Cahn and John Hagee say they are witnessing an unparalleled acceleration in last-days signs that suggest the Second Coming is fast approaching.

Hagee, pastor of Cornerstone Church and author of the newly-released book “Four Blood Moons,” told his 22,000-member congregation recently that the appearance of four blood moons on Jewish holy days between April 2014 and October 2015 points to a “world-shaking event” that could signify the beginning of events leading up to the seven-year Great Tribulation.

God is using the heavens to announce things to come, says Pastor John Hagee.

“I believe that the heavens are God’s billboard – that he has been sending signals to planet Earth and we just haven’t been picking them up,” Hagee told his San Antonio, Texas, congregation. “Today, with the help of God’s word and some very astute scientists, I’m going to walk you through 500 years (of four blood moons on Jewish feast days) and show you how God is literally screaming at the world: ‘I am coming soon.’”

The phenomenon, a rare combination of lunar and solar eclipses, has only occurred a few times in the last 500 years – 1492, 1948 and 1967. It will happen again in 2014-15.

The previous dates correspond with the Jews’ expulsion from Spain and Christopher Columbus’ discovery of America (a sanctuary for the Jewish people), the creation of Israel, the Six-Day War and what Hagee and other Bible prophecy scholars believe could be the Middle East “War of Gog and Magog” predicted by the prophet Ezekiel 2,700 years ago. This war, according to Bible prophecy scholars, involves an attack on Israel by a coalition of nations led by Russia and Iran.

“I would not want to live in any other period,” he said.

“The Apocalypse (the unveiling of the end times) speaks powerfully of trouble ahead with storm warnings that carrying a booming jolt of truth. The warning is clear: prepare to meet thy God – followed by the voice of the gentle Shepherd – ‘Come.’”

A new world is coming, Graham wrote. The paradise that humanity lost in the Garden of Eden will be regained. Christ is coming to conquer evil and establish his perfect rule over all creation

“But until then God wants to give everyone an opportunity to know Christ through repentance and faith,” Graham wrote. “Regardless of what society says, we can’t go on much longer in the sea of immorality without judgment coming. We are at a crossroads, and there are profound moral issues at stake. It is time to return to biblical truth.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/billy-graham-sounds-alarm-for-2nd- coming/#9pDhrh4YwFupzggw.99

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   12:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: BorisY (#88)

God is using the heavens to announce things to come, says Pastor John Hagee.

“I believe that the heavens are God’s billboard – that he has been sending signals to planet Earth and we just haven’t been picking them up,” Hagee told his San Antonio, Texas, congregation. “Today, with the help of God’s word and some very astute scientists, I’m going to walk you through 500 years (of four blood moons on Jewish feast days) and show you how God is literally screaming at the world: ‘I am coming soon.’”

The phenomenon, a rare combination of lunar and solar eclipses, has only occurred a few times in the last 500 years – 1492, 1948 and 1967. It will happen again in 2014-15.

The previous dates correspond with the Jews’ expulsion from Spain and Christopher Columbus’ discovery of America (a sanctuary for the Jewish people), the creation of Israel, the Six-Day War and what Hagee and other Bible prophecy scholars believe could be the Middle East “War of Gog and Magog” predicted by the prophet Ezekiel 2,700 years ago. This war, according to Bible prophecy scholars, involves an attack on Israel by a coalition of nations led by Russia and Iran.

Is this the same idiot that encourages Israel to steal Palestinian lands thereby encouraging continuing conflict in the Mid East?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   12:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#89)

steal Palestinian lands

Jews who are antichrists are neocoms !

You should mud skip out of the slime you're in !

“But until then God wants to give everyone an opportunity to know Christ through repentance and faith,” Graham wrote. “Regardless of what society says, we can’t go on much longer in the sea of immorality without judgment coming. We are at a crossroads, and there are profound moral issues at stake. It is time to return to biblical truth.”

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   12:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: BorisY (#90)

It is time to return to biblical truth.

Oh those Jewish stories of begat, begat and begat? What the HELL is all that about? Here, I shall instruct you: it is nothing more than a series of Jewish faerie tales that were created after being kicked out of Babylon. The Jews ripped off all the Babylonian history and applied the newly learned documentation to themselves; it is called the Old Testament within the Christian faith.

And the faerie tales continued into christianity .... and here you are still spreading faerie tales.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   12:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo (#91) (Edited)

The Bible says ... to those who perish --- the Bible is foolishness !

God's foolishness is ... incomprehensible - WORTHLESS --- to the DYING - worldy wise !

Preparing for disaster - eternity ... the pyramids are monuments --- to pharohs - slavery - mummies !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   13:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: BorisY (#92)

The Bible says ... to those who perish --- the Bible is foolishness !

All the Bible was: a way of controlling the Jewish People. In fact, it only applicable to Jewish People because of their blood. Those poor sheep herders had nothing to do but invent their own traditions based on all other world civilizations and so, their own ignorant religion is solely based on their blood heritage and lineage through Abraham. That is all there is to the Bible.. The rest is just borrowed faebles and faerie tales.

You might as well tell me that you think Mother Goose's Nursery Rhymes are significant to you. It could be closer to any truth about your belief system.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   13:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: buckeroo (#93)

Lost your ... mind - brain --- soul !

Sorry about that !

I'll ... hope - pray for mercy --- a miracle !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-03-07   13:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: BorisY (#94)

I'll ... hope - pray for mercy --- a miracle !

Nice method of being prepared that you personally chose there. Why not go out and enjoy a local circus or carnival as a Kloughn.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-07   13:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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