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Title: Question: What are Good Ideas for Preparing for Disaster?
Source: buckeroo
URL Source: http://here@LF.com
Published: Feb 26, 2014
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2014-02-26 22:41:14 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 44821
Comments: 95

The country is a mess. The state you live in is a mess. The county you live in is a mess. The city you live in is a mess. But what have you performed to prepare for disaster from any force whether manmade or natural?

Have you electrical power? Solar/NaturalGas/Propane/Gasoline Generator(s) to generate electricity for your various needs? Water? Food? Shelter? How about a library whether hardcover/paperback/electronic? What about personal defense?

The goal of this thread is to describe your ideas to become self-sufficient within reasonable personal means, independent of the messes that most know pre-exisit in an arbitrary world.

Make a comment about what you have performed and/or plan to do.

buck

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#32. To: Jameson (#31)

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

Of course. There is no question you are wrong.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   15:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#32)

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

As you have proven beyond any doubt.

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-02   15:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jameson (#33)

Perhaps I was wrong to believe that our society is smarter than ever.........

You posed the question about yourself. My rhetorical and somewhat sarcastic reply is consistent about your inability of and about your own capabilities. You are living proof for the reasons of America's failed capacity and capabilty.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   15:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jameson (#28)

If that is true. Why is Americas ranking in education falling so far.

Give me access to enough statistical data, I'll support whatever position you desire to have supported.

I didn't ask you to manipulate data like a typical liberal. I was just telling you the truth. Do you deny that our people in large are going poorer educationally? I mean how many people voted for a President that anyone with any sense knew was an evil piece of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   17:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jameson (#28)

Anyway, perhaps you feel it is stupidity....most Americans simply believe that equality means equal rights and equal treatment under the law.

Only a a moron thinks men and woman can be married.

I think that the universities are discriminating by having girl only leagues. Men should be able to goin the NCAA. Otherwise it is discrimination.

You agree or you are just a faggot liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   17:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jameson (#28)

Here is what we need. A sword for when the bullets run out. So you can behead the enemies..."

....and who are the "enemies" whom you wish to behead?

Liberals. They are thieves. It would be a preventive measure. Everyone knows how lazy deadbeats act.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-02   17:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#25)

Doomsday Preppers are always talking about that scenario and go off into left field looking as though they anticipate living in a Road Warrior movie; of course, we all know you have your feet planted firmly on the ground and you never watch the Preppers shows on the National Geographic channel. That is right, of course, right?

Stay on target, Luke! Stay on target!

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   19:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Don (#38)

Doomsday Preppers are always talking about that scenario and go off into left field looking as though they anticipate living in a Road Warrior movie; of course, we all know you have your feet planted firmly on the ground and you never watch the Preppers shows on the National Geographic channel. That is right, of course, right?

Donnie ... I havn't watched TV since 1993. So, again, you are wrong. Here, let me help you out: read your Bible and pray to some illusive God while rolling your rosary between your thumb and forefinger. Wh knows ... you might, just might, get closer to the truth.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   19:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

Come on, Bucky. You don' need to be ashamed. I won't tell anyone.

Rosary? Why shucks, Partner, I don't have one of those things.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   20:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Don (#40)

What do you learn based on your many fruitless hours devouring selected topics on TV? How to pray? How to smell nice? How the weather is forecasted when all you have to do is stich your head out the door and treat yourself to the actual environment?

Planning is everything. And watching TV is not planning; the act is a vegetising experience for the almost brain-dead; watching National Geographic and catching a glimpse of the latest infomercial is hardly worthy of one's time; this is true of my time.

OK ... so you don't run your rosary between your fingers; what other Christian amulet do you use?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   20:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

Everything depends on what you are looking forward to. You did say planning. You are a Prepper, aren't you. Don't forget to stock up on some good books.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   22:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Don (#42)

Don't forget to stock up on some good books.

Are you recommending some silly, comick book that you seem to always tout?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-02   22:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#43)

Well, you could try Superman or Superwoman. They have proven they can survive.

Don  posted on  2014-03-02   23:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#20)

Guns, ammo, food, battery operated emergency gear, 12 baseball bats with 5 wood which can be converted to mace configuration with some nails. One neighbor has a generator and another sandbags and concertina wire. Fishing and archery gear, tents and various camping gear. Oh and a hose to siphon gas or diesel. Also a champion Labrador retriever to assist in all outdoors affairs.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2014-03-03   1:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Don (#24)

You have to realize there is an increase of people in this country who now truly believe a zombie apocalypse "can" happen.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2014-03-03   1:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#36)

Only a a moron thinks men and woman can be married.

Ok......so you don't believe men and women can be married?

and......anyone who does not agree is a moron?

Then you said, "...I think that the universities are discriminating by having girl only leagues. Men should be able to goin the NCAA..."

yeah..."...Men should be able to goin the NCAA..."

Awesome post! really meaningful!

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   5:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#37)

....and who are the "enemies" whom you wish to behead?

Liberals. They are thieves. It would be a preventive measure.

Now you advocate "beheading" those with which you disagree.......

Sounds like the Taliban, doesn't it?

I don't think you really mean it. You're like that sad drunk sitting alone at the end of the bar blubbering about how he'll have his revenge on all of his imagined enemies....

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   5:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jameson (#47)

yeah..."...Men should be able to goin the NCAA..."

Awesome post! really meaningful!

I'm tryint to sound stupid like a liberal.

So you do support men joining women's basketball teams correct? Otherwise you are a hypocrite and probably a faggot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   7:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jameson (#48)

Now you advocate "beheading" those with which you disagree.......

Sounds like the Taliban, doesn't it?

Don't you khow what it would be like if the supermarets were not being replenished? It would be an animal house. You would likely have to kill or be killed.

And I rarely drink. Maybe once or twice a year. Or even less.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   7:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Do you deny that our people in large are going poorer educationally?

Here is my comment: "We are smarter, better fed, more pampered, relaxed and happy!"

I contend that we are, as a society, absolutely smarter.

I will concede that our public education system is failing a significant percentage of our young students, and I also concede that there is a very visible segment of our population that chooses to be ignorant.

"I mean how many people voted for a President that anyone with any sense knew was an evil piece of shit."

Please check my numbers, but I found the vote count to be "60,221,746"

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   7:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#50)

Don't you khow what it would be like if the supermarets were not being replenished? It would be an animal house. You would likely have to kill or be killed.

"...Don't you know what it would be like if the supermarkets were not being replenished?..."

So you're framing this against the backdrop of the zombie apocalypse...I see.

"You would likely have to kill or be killed."

Or go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.......

"...And I rarely drink. Maybe once or twice a year. Or even less..."

Perhaps you should start? I recommend Irish Whiskey....obviously

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   8:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#49)

So you do support men joining women's basketball teams correct? Otherwise you are a hypocrite and probably a faggot.

"...so you do support men joining women's basketball teams correct?..."

I've never given it a moment's thought. I suppose it would make it easier for the white guys to see more playing time....

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   8:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jameson (#53)

. I suppose it would make it easier for the white guys to see more playing time....

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   9:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#54)

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

No, I'm a white guy!

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   9:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jameson (#55)

That sounds like a racist comment. Are you a racist?

No, I'm a white guy!

Let me make a similar comment and tell me if it is racist.

Since affirmative action. Blacks have been given jobs that they never could have had before. Because whites are smarter.

I'm just playing devils advocate.

Blacks actually achieve better in sports such as basketball then whites do. I acknowledge that. But Whites tend to do better in getting an education.

Would you say that is genetic, coincidence or what?

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-03-03   9:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)

Blacks actually achieve better in sports such as basketball then whites do.

Would you say that is genetic, coincidence or what?

I'll pick: "or what"

Jameson  posted on  2014-03-03   10:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#46)

Yeah, I know. Superstition is very strong in many people, always has been. Weak minds or deluded minds, I guess it makes little difference. The fall of mankind under Satan's tempting has degenerated many things.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   16:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: redleghunter, Bucky (#45)

Anyone who is serious about this can watch Doomsday Preppers. They are into this thing in a big way.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   16:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Don (#44)

Well, you could try Superman or Superwoman. They have proven they can survive.

This is good news for us, Donnie; I am confident that only you shall take your own recommendation as the gosple truth. However, since most of us are mere mortals and live in reality where history has proven that there are plenty of reasons about intelligently preparing for disasters, I am confused about your significant contribution to the thread.

What do you do when Lex Luther shows up? Show him your comick book or your Bible?

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   20:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Don (#58)

Weak minds or deluded minds, I guess it makes little difference. The fall of mankind under Satan's tempting has degenerated many things.

Seek penance for your personal sins, Donnie. Be humble and grovel at the feet of your Sunday school teacher's feet for forgiveness; and don't forget to drop a buck into the offering tray thus providing you relief to your guilt and forever damnation. But, whatever you do, don't intelligently plan ... oh no, here is where you have to consult your Bible for some obscure passage that might be quickly interpreted by your Sunday school teacher as applicable for your neglect for family, friends and business.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#60)

When Lex shows up, I will simply refer him to you. See, problem solved.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   21:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#61)

Au contraire, mon ami. I plan all the time. When things are planned out to my satisfaction, I stop worrying about it. So far my planning has been spot on. I first trust in God to take care of me as He has promised to do. Then, I use common sense to do what I should. It has worked out so far. It has gotten me to my current age of 68, through 25 years in the military including a tour of duty in Vietnam, etc etc. I know that God is looking out for me and when I die, I know where I am going.

So, tell us about your planning.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   21:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Don (#62)

Impossible. My family and I shall be enjoying clear, sub-micron filtered, sparkling water with all kinds of added coffees, teas, milks, mochas and so forth, along with diversified 2K calorie freeze dried foods that allow a mere PRESTO! for preparation for some of the finest gourmet foods on the planet.

But you won't have any access to any of this stuff because of your choice about lack of planning. Nope. You have your comick books as your guide.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Don (#63)

I know that God is looking out for me and when I die, I know where I am going.

Your knowledge is by luck, by golly or by God! Doesn't sound like much of a plan.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-03   21:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#64)

I have a secret for you. That food doesn't sound that good. What happened to beef and veggies in your "plan".

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   23:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#65)

I can understand your thinking. You don't know anything about Him. He takes care of His people. He does allow the rain to fall and the sun to shine on the saved and unsaved; however, the bottom line is those who reject Him can easily get ignored when push comes to shove.

Don  posted on  2014-03-03   23:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Don (#66)

What happened to beef and veggies in your "plan".

I didn't mention any specific food group other than a general way to ensure that you understood a 20+ year storage life capability for food: freeze dried method of food storage - this method applies to all organic or carbon based natural compounds both plant and animal; simply stated, the approach removes water for storage purposes within a vacuum chamber and when properly stored/packaged/handled, little loss of food content is achieved. Restoring a product is adding water, which I also mentioned as being pure sparlking water (slight alkaline content). Here is the brief content I suggested in the earlier post:

My family and I shall be enjoying clear, sub-micron filtered, sparkling water with all kinds of added coffees, teas, milks, mochas and so forth, along with diversified 2K calorie freeze dried foods that allow a mere PRESTO! for preparation for some of the finest gourmet foods on the planet.

Do I have to indicate all the food groups based on your omissions? If so, you need more than a brief post about being intelligently prepared for a disaster through planning - you need a complete education.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   0:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#68)

You don't know anything about Him.

Whom is "Him?" Where is "Him?" Are you talking about the "Great Pumpkin" that shall sprinkle all the good little boyz/girlz from the sky all the candy they want to have? Hmmm.

He takes care of His people.

"He" takes care of "His people?" Does "his people" have a pumpkin head like "he" does?

the bottom line is those who reject Him can easily get ignored when push comes to shove.

Prove it. Why do you limit your discussion to: those who reject "Him?" Don't you see a logical error in what you are suggesting? You have no more knowledge about God's actual sex than amoeba or even a rock buried under whale shit in the deepest part of the oceans on the planet.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   0:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: buckeroo (#68)

Bucky, you're a hoot. Keep it up. You do give laughs every so often.

Don  posted on  2014-03-05   9:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: buckeroo (#69)

You have no knowledge of God. When you rail against Him, you are showing your ignorance. You do try to be insulting to God and those who believe in Him. But, trust me Christians pay no attention to the nonsense of scoffers as we know Him and we know the end of non-believers. You have our pity and we will do what we can for you if you come to your senses and want to know Him as well.

There is only one name under Heaven by which you may be saved: Jesus Christ. If you want the reference in the Scriptures for that, let me know.

Don  posted on  2014-03-05   9:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Don (#70)

As usual, you have no rebuttal. I notice you don't add anything to the discussion other than you are embarrassingly amused.

buckeroo  posted on  2014-03-05   21:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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