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Title: Buchanan: Ukraine’s Crisis, Not Ours
Source: Human Events
URL Source: http://www.humanevents.com/2014/02/21/ukraines-crisis-not-ours/
Published: Feb 21, 2014
Author: Patrick J. Buchanan
Post Date: 2014-02-21 15:04:22 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 2712
Comments: 4

Richard Engel of NBC, reporting from Maidan Square in Kiev, described what he witnessed as the Feb. 19 truce collapsed.

Police began to back away from their positions in the square, said Engel. And the protesters attacked. Gunfire was exchanged and the death toll, believed to be in the dozens, is not known.

In short, the reality in Kiev is more complex than the black-and-white cartoon of Vladimir Putin vs. the freedom fighters drawn by our resident Russophobic elite. Perspective is in order.

First, though portrayed as a tyrannical thug, Viktor Yanukovych won the presidency of Ukraine in 2010 in what international observers called a free and fair election. He may not be Marcus Aurelius, but his remains the legitimate government.

Second, high among the reasons Yanukovych chose Russia’s offer to join its custom union over the EU is that Putin put a better deal on the table.

Moscow put up $15 billion in loans and cut-rate oil and gas. The EU offered some piddling loans and credits, plus a demand for reforms in the Ukrainian economy monitored by the IMF, but no commitment to full membership in the EU.

As for the “protesters” who came to Maidan Square in November, not all came simply to protest. Many set up tents and shacks, threw up barricades, seized government buildings, burned the headquarters of the ruling party, battled police and demanded the overthrow of the regime.

How many Western countries would permit a planned putsch in their capital city?

Still, after weeks of protest, Yanukovych offered to negotiate.

He fired his prime minister and tendered the post to the leader of the opposition Arseniy Yatsenyuk. He offered to make Vitali Klitschko, the ex-heavyweight champion and the head of another opposition party, the deputy prime minister. His offer was rejected.

Yanukovych then had parliament repeal the tough laws against protests he had had enacted and delivered a full amnesty to those arrested during the months of occupation. In effect, Yanukovych offered peace and a coalition government with his opponents until new presidential elections new year.

Does that sound like an unyielding tyrant?

Why was this unacceptable? Because the protesters want Yanukovych out, new elections now, and Ukraine reoriented toward Europe.

While the opposition has every right to urge this course, is not next year’s presidential election the place to decide the future of the country? What kind of democracy is it where a democratically elected president can be forced out of office by mobs?

When Mohammed Morsi, the elected president of Egypt, was ousted in a military coup last summer, backed by huge crowds in Tahrir Square, John Kerry said the army was “restoring democracy.”

Is this the new American concept of democracy, that when an elected government makes a major decision many dislike, the people should take to the streets and shut down the capital until the president reverses course or resigns?

President Obama is telling the Yanukovych government to respect the protesters. No violence. But how would Obama react if thousands of Tea Party members established an encampment on the Mall, burned down the DNC, occupied the Capitol and demanded he either repeal Obamacare or resign?

Would Barack Obama negotiate?

Russia has accused us of meddling in Ukraine’s internal affairs.

And when we see the State Department’s Victoria Nuland in Maidan Square egging on the protesters, and hear tape of Nuland discussing with the U.S. ambassador whom we want in the next Ukrainian government, do not the Russians have a point?

Under George W. Bush, our National Endowment for Democracy helped to engineer color-coded revolutions in Serbia, Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan, but it failed in Belarus. We have a long track record of meddling.

And was it not interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine for John McCain to fly to Kiev, go down to Maidan Square, and do his best imitation of Mario Savio in Sproul Plaza?

If the Cold War is over, why are we playing these Cold War games?

Imagine where America would be today had the neocons gotten their way and brought Georgia and Ukraine into NATO.

We would have been eyeball-to-eyeball with Russia in the South Ossetian war of 2008, and eyeball-to-eyeball today over Kiev. Yet, in neither country is there any vital U.S. interest worth risking war with Russia.

What is coming in Ukraine, however, is likely to be far worse than what we have seen up to now. For this political crisis has deepened the divide between a western Ukraine that looks to Europe, and an east whose historic, linguistic, cultural and ethnic bonds are with Mother Russia.

With reports of police and soldiers in western Ukraine defecting from the government to join the rebellion, Ukraine could be a country sliding into civil war. If so, the spillover effects could be ominous.

But, to be candid, what happens in Ukraine has always been more critical to Moscow than it has ever been to us. As Barack Obama said of Syria, this is “somebody else’s civil war.”

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

If the Cold War is over, why are we playing these Cold War games?

The western world is reincarnating communism ...

that already failed ---

the eastern world is reincarnating capitalism !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2014-02-21   16:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Thanks for posting. It helped me to understand what is going on over there. I don't know many of the details.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-02-21   21:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Pat is at his best when explaining these things. When I hear him talk on FOX he makes me want to pull my hair out.

My ole Russian blood has me siding with the current gov't but things aren't looking good as it now stands.

The olympics are winding down and imo Putin had been showing remarkable restraint just because of the games. All bets are off once the games are over.

Russia will not surrender Ukraine without a fight and that much you can bank on.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2014-02-22   19:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

What kind of democracy is it where a democratically elected president can be forced out of office by mobs?

What kind of democracy?

A TYPICAL DEMOCRACY,YOU FREAKING IDIOT! DEMOCRACY IS DEFINED AS MOB RULE!

Other than that obvious brain fart,which is most likely due to a lifetime spend in DC being brainwashed,Pat is spot on.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2014-02-26   8:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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