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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Bible Study See other Bible Study Articles Title: Genesis 12:1 - 3 Source: Holy Bible URL Source: [None] Published: Jan 27, 2014 Author: God Post Date: 2014-01-27 23:55:51 by Don Keywords: Israel, God, Bless Views: 10013 Comments: 22 Since we have anti-Semites posting here, I thought it would be good to give them a warning from God. God told Abraham that He would make him a great nation and bless those who bless him. God also said that He would curse anyone who curses Israel. That is a very severe warning. If God curses someone, I cannot imagine a worse fate for that person. Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. God also said that in the Millenium, all nations of the world would bring food to Israel and bless them. That is the period in which Christ will rule the World from Jerusalem and the nation of Israel will control the nations of the world. There will be no nations threatening Israel in the Millenium and it will be a time of peace throughout the world. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Don (#0) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-01-27   23:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: A K A Stone (#1) I wouldn't want to curse Israel for any reason. God is jealous of His people, and He will give some awesome payback. Don  posted on  2014-01-28   0:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Don (#2) In order to be an anti-semite, the person being offended must be semitic. The vermin you're defending aren't semitic. They're of the synagog of satan. Big difference between true judeans and khazars. You don't know what a semite is. Logsplitter  posted on  2014-01-28   0:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Logsplitter (#3) Full Definition of SEMITE 1a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a descendant of these peoples 2: a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language See Semite defined for English-language learners » See Semite defined for kids » http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/semite Don  posted on  2014-01-28   0:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Logsplitter (#3) In order to be an anti-semite, the person being offended must be semitic. The vermin you're defending aren't semitic. They're of the synagog of satan. Big difference between true judeans and khazars. You don't know what a semite is. Right you are. The Old Jerusalem is Not the New JerUSAlem By Pastor Sheldon Emry   Historic Jerusalem is not Prophetic Jerusalem "For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the Word of the Lord from Jerusalem" (Isaiah 2:3). Jerusalem, Jerusalem.   There is probably more confused preaching in recent years on "Jerusalem" than on any other name from Scripture except perhaps "Jew." Scripture, such as that quoted above, is used by a great many Christian ministers to mean the literal city of Jerusalem in old Palestine.  They say that there God is going to restore His Israel people and begin to set up His earthly kingdom from which Jewish missionaries will go out to preach the gospel all over the world!  Other ministers claim this Jerusalem is a "heavenly" city located somewhere other than on the earth. One of the major sources of confusion in today's preaching comes from ministers who are unable to separate historic Biblical cities from prophetic cities of the Bible.  They do fairly well on Babylon, since the actual city has been destroyed and exits no more in the earth.  So when "Babylon" is used in prophecy, they realize it must be something other than the old city. But with Jerusalem they are fooled.  Because the old city still exists and still carries its ancient name, they assume prophetic Jerusalem must have something to do with the old city of Jerusalem. It was Voltaire who is credited with saying, "If you would speak with me, define your terms."  He realized that words must have an understandable meaning to both parties to a conversation, or one would be confused or deceived.  And so it is with "Jerusalem."  I want you to follow me in the Scriptures to find God's true meaning of Jerusalem, when He says, "For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the Word of the Lord from Jerusalem." In Matthew 23:37-39 we read the words of Jesus Christ: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!  Behold your house is left unto you desolate.  For I say unto you, ye shall not see Me henceforth, till ye shall say, blessed is he that cometh in the Name of the Lord." Here Christ was speaking to the city of Jerusalem that He was standing and looking at Jerusalem, the city that had killed Israel's prophets down through the centuries; and He said, Jerusalem, "your house is left unto you desolate."  He could not have been speaking of prophetic Jerusalem, for that has a glorious future! The Lord Shall Yet Choose Jerusalem I will quote some Scripture verses used by those who insist that the old city of Jerusalem will be the Jerusalem that will be "chosen" and "blessed" of God.  They are in the first chapter of Zechariah.  "I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with great jealousy … I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: My house shall be built in it … and the Lord shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem."  These are phrases from verses 14 through 17, and those who quote them say they mean that God will set up the temple (His house) at some future time in the old city of Jerusalem. But there are other phrases in the same verses which must be considered.  I will add them here in their context.  "Thus saith the Lord of Hosts; My cities through prosperity [good] shall yet be spread abroad."  Then comes "and the Lord shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem."  Since the phrase, "spread abroad," was spoken through Zechariah while he was in old Palestine, it could mean places other than old Palestine! Christ also gave some indication that the cities of Israel would be in great number and cover much territory.  In Matthew 10 are His well known instructions to the twelve disciples.  In verse 6, He tells them to "go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel," and then in verse 23 He says, "For verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come."  The disciples could have gone over the towns in old Palestine in a matter of weeks, and missionaries still could do so today.  But if the cities of Israel were to be "spread abroad" and to be a great number, it could not be done so quickly. We must also take into consideration that Zechariah, as a prophet to Israel, spoke not only to those in the Babylonian captivity, but to the millions of Israelites who were at that time in the Assyrian lands and never returned to Jerusalem or Palestine.  That Zechariah's prophecy above was not fulfilled by the return of less than 45,000 Jews from Babylon under Ezra and Nehemiah will be clear as we go on.  Also, what the "Jerusalem" is that the Lord "shall yet choose" is made clearer by reading on in the next verses from the same prophet. An Angel Will Measure New Jerusalem..... Old Jerusalem to be Occupied by  the Enemy at the End of the Age We have already seen that God was to make Jerusalem as Shiloh.  One of the things that was to happen to Shiloh was, "and thou shalt see an enemy in My habitation" (1 Sam. 2:32).  This did happen to Shiloh, and if God's Word is True, it must happen to the old city of Jerusalem. Ezekiel saw the same thing, for we read in Ezekiel 36:12, "Also thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains [nations] of Israel, and say, ye mountains of Israel, hear the Word of the Lord: Thus saith the Lord God: Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession."   Now, who possesses the places of worship of ancient Israel?  Not the true Israel people, but the Jews.  God goes on to say, "Surely in the fire of My jealousy, have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea [Edom], which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey." The Jewish Encylopedia, Vol. 5, page 41, 1925, says, "Edom is in Modern Jewry."  Again, who has old Jerusalem, Palestine, and the "ancient high places" in their possession? http://usa-the-republic.com/sheldon%20emry/old%20jerusalem%20not%20new%20jerusalem.html whyofcourse  posted on  2014-01-28   0:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Logsplitter (#3) The vermin you're defending aren't semitic. They're of the synagog of satan. Would you please elaborate on these two sentences? Don  posted on  2014-01-28   0:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: whyofcourse (#5) I read some of the writings of Pastor Sheldon Emry. He sounds like the perfect cult leader and heretic. I cannot accept his viewpoint on Holy Scripture when he contradicts the word of God. Sorry, no can do. Don  posted on  2014-01-28   1:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Don (#7) Just precisely where does he do that? whyofcourse  posted on  2014-01-28   1:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Logsplitter (#3) They're of the synagog of satan. So there is no God only Satan? That is a kind of silly position wouldn't you admit? A K A Stone  posted on  2014-01-28   7:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Logsplitter (#3) The vermin you're defending aren't semitic. Netanyahu isn't Simitic? A K A Stone  posted on  2014-01-28   7:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Don (#7) I read some of the writings of Pastor Sheldon Emry. He sounds like the perfect cult leader and heretic. I cannot accept his viewpoint on Holy Scripture when he contradicts the word of God. Sorry, no can do. I've never heard of him. If you have time could you point out some of the things that he says that are not scriptural? A K A Stone  posted on  2014-01-28   7:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Don (#0) The bible says jews are god's chosen ones. The bible just happens to have been written by jewish guys. Coincidence? Logsplitter  posted on  2014-01-28   10:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: A K A Stone (#9) No, Stoney. I just don't believe some of the nonsense I see being spouted here. Like earth being only 6000 years old or the "great flood" wiping out the dinosaurs 6000 years ago. C'mon man, you gotta be smarter than that. Logsplitter  posted on  2014-01-28   10:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Don (#4) That's the modern/khazar definition of semite. True semites hail from a very small area in the ME. Jordan, Lebanon, Judea. The MW MODERN definition is bastardized. Logsplitter  posted on  2014-01-28   11:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: A K A Stone (#10) Netanyahu is a sneering, leering kike. A jew supremacist in it's truest form. Logsplitter  posted on  2014-01-28   11:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Logsplitter (#12) The bible says jews are god's chosen ones. The bible just happens to have been written by jewish guys. Coincidence? If God revealed himself to a people of his choosing. It would be reasonable that they would be the ones to write about it and witness to it. It just means at the time that Abraham was chosen by God because he was the most righteous at that time. A K A Stone  posted on  2014-01-28   17:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: A K A Stone (#11) I'll get back with you tomorrow. In the meantime, look over this article by the Pastor, Where Is Your Soul After Death? http://israelect.com/reference/SheldonEmry/studies/Where%20is%20Your%20Soul% 20After%20Death.pdf Don  posted on  2014-01-28   19:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: A K A Stone (#16) Here is the link that Don tried to make. israelect.com/reference/SheldonEmry/studies/ I don't know if he doesn't know how to make a hot link or just a common mistake. Some times copying a link changes some characters to weird things. whyofcourse  posted on  2014-01-28   19:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Logsplitter (#13) The Holy Bible tells us that "Wisdom begins with the fear of God." Who is smarter, God or man? I have to ask you how many Universes you have created by simply knowing? Don  posted on  2014-02-02   21:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Logsplitter (#15) How many wars have the Muslims won against Israel? How many wars has Israel won against the Muslims? Don  posted on  2014-02-02   21:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Logsplitter (#12) It makes sense that God would write His words through His chosen people. You couldn't reason that out for yourself? Don  posted on  2014-02-02   21:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: A K A Stone (#11) Did you read that article by that spiritual genius , the Pastor? I have more if you want them. I haven't really felt like writing since last week. I am feeling better now. Don  posted on  2014-02-02   21:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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