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Title: War Games
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URL Source: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1090/1090_01.asp
Published: Jan 9, 2014
Author: Jack Chick
Post Date: 2014-01-09 16:31:15 by redleghunter
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#1. To: redleghunter (#0)
Please explain the holiness of the "Holy Bible" or any other "Christian" document. Thank you in advance.
God is HOLY, HOLY, HOLY therefore God's Written Word is HOLY.
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
Who says "God's Word" is Holy?
www.biblegateway.com/vers...-James-Version-KJV-Bible/
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
God tells us His word is holy. The Holy Bible tells us He is Holy. The millions of People who have known God tells us His word is Holy. The millions of people who today know God witness that His word is Holy. There is a great list of witnesses who say His word is holy.
What does an Internet hotlink have to do with "God's Word" being Holy? Your post is a joke, correct? Rhetorically, it does not answer my question at all.
Cool. Why can't I hear God telling me this secret, since you say, "God tells us His word is holy." Just asking a simple question. Cool. If the Holy Bible tells us [me] that He [God] is Holy, who wrote the Holy Bible? Did God [himself] write this document? If so, why isn't there any authentication of God in any point of fact outside of the Holy Bible? Cool. Where are these "millions" to support your comment because I don't have access to the list that you seem to possess as a "secret." Why do these "millions" have access to secret documents where the rest of us BILLIONS of people have none? Why isn't God revealing himself to all of us? Cool. All religious foundations have a documented word or two, including animism, about the "Word of God." But those other religious beliefs may not use the "Holy Bible" as a reference. In fact, even within the broad Christian perspective, there are about 100 accepted Bibles, dated from the Vulgate. Which one is "Holy?" All of them? If so, am I to read ALL variations of "God's Word" to understand what "Holy" really means? Why does God obfuscate his own word in so many renderings of the "Holy Bible?" More than that question, why does God deliver his word so mysteriously in about 100 "Holy Bibles" for only selected millions, when in fact there are BILLIONS of People on the planet?
You cannot hear God because you aren't a Christian. You do hear temptations whispering all the time. You just don't think it is anything but your own thoughts. T suspect you have already heard this; however, God did write the Holy Bible. The Only begotten Son of God came to Earth and lived a part of the New Testament. You already know this. The millions are the Christians. Just pick out a Christian Church and go in. You'll find your witnesses there. If you were making any sort of effort and wanted to know, this would have already occurred to. Many witnesses have died as martyrs to testify as witnesses. There is a book called A Cloud of Witnesses written many years ago. Man has written various versions of the Holy Bible. Satan has used people to spread confusion to stop people from arriving at the truth. Even now, if you wanted the truth, God Himself would see that you arrive at truth in your search for Him. There are versions of the Bible that I trust. If you want to know which ones they are, I will tell you. It isn't God who spreads confusion, it is Satan, the Great Liar and deceiver.
I'd like to Know Don. You are a good man. I trust the KJV. I don't have a Bishops Bible or the Geneva Bible but I have skimmed them a little online and they seem to be "good versions also. I don't like the NIV. It seems to contradict itself.
I have a couple of the Geneva Bible and a reprint of the King James 1611 Bible. I like the KIng James edited for updating and the New King James, the American Standard and the New American Standard, and I understand the older NIV is good. I understand the English Standard Version is good. I like the Scoville Study Bible and the James MacArthur Study Bible. The MacArthur Study Bible has good notes from the James MacArthur Commentary on the Holy Bible.
Read the scriptures and the answer is apparent.
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
I like JMac's study Bibles as well. I have the NKJV (received text) and NASB (critical text) versions on my tablet and mobile. Having a tablet it is easy to add freebies and I was able to get the KJV Schofield bible for a couple of bucks. I also keep a Catholic NABRE and an Orthodox Study Bible on the tablet since we converse often with Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. If you have a tablet (iPad, Kindle Fire etc) let me know and I can suggest a host of APPs which have several Bible versions for free. Other commentaries I would recommend having are John Gill's and Matthew Henry. Great commentaries written way before modernism hit.
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
I consider myself closer to Christ than so called "Christians." I hear no temptations; you are presumptuous and absurd. If God wrote the Holy Bible where is he to backup his authorship besides some fragile ignorant old man that penned the Bible based on a hardship case from Israel or other regions local to the customs and social mores of the Jews from 600 BCE? BAH! So which version of the Bible did God write? What do you have, some official seal of the Pope or Jimmy Bakker? So many choices out there but I know you have one selected, so which is it? Your borrowed dualism concept from about 2600 years ago from Zoraster is absolute evidence of and about the myth concerning the origin of the "Holy Bible" from the diaspora which began with the 6th century BCE conquest of the ancient Kingdom of Judah by Babylon, the destruction of the First Temple (586 BCE), and the expulsion of the population, as recorded in the Bible. The Bablonians (Persians) taught the Jews how to write while they were in Babylon. Once they were released as common misfits and no benefit to Babylon, they traveled back to their make-believe nation and made up the myths that you read today in the Old Testament.
The scriptures don't contain "answers."
The Scriptures don't have answers for those who disregard them.
Here is a suggestion. Start using numbers on your paragraphs. It is much easier to answer them one by one.
The scriptures contain "myths."
I indented your responses along with italicisation, Don. Your responses are easily identifiable based on any reader's capability to distinguish your pronounced zeal from my responses.
Well, I put you down in the Non-believer's Column some Time ago.
Zeal vs. non zeal ?
How is it you consider yourself closer to God? It is absurd to think you aren't tempted by sin when ALL of us are. Where is God? Look up. He doesn't have to prove Himself to you. He has done that already in His Creation, and He did that by sending His only begotten Son to die for His people. BAH? Are you a fan of Scrooge? He wrote the original autographs, I.e. The original documents. The boards of people who translated the Hebrew and the Greek and Jewish from the original documents wrote good translations in the dependable versions as no valid mistakes can be detected, at least none that change the meanings of the verses. The ancient kingdoms knew God. He made Himself known by them. If you read through the Old Testament, you can see that. You say that Israel borrowed from other religions. It is no surprise that other nations knew Jehovah and His ways, or that those kingdoms worshipped Satan. Even Israel went astray from God. "Their make believe nation?" Why do you hate Israel?
Buckeroo is looking for something like where he can look up and see that the sky is blue. Then he can agree that the sky is blue. In the old days before Columbus. Buckeroo would have been on the forum. If they had them back then. Saying the world is flat. I walk and see that it is flat. He would laugh at and mock at those who said the world was round. But if he looked in scripture like I believe some have said Columbus did. Anyways if he had looked in scripture he would have known that the world was round. Because as Isiah says in chapter 40 verse 20 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Break out of the Jimmy Bakker/Jerry Falwell "Christian" duality mind meld, Don. You present a case of "dualism" wherein there is "Satan" vs. "God" or "Evil" vs. "Good" or "Lie" vs. "Truth" or some other disguised case of dualism. But you never touch on subjects that are "shades of gray" between the diametrically opposite poles of discussion; and this is where your religion enters the picture of interpretation about reality or the real world around us. Your picture of religious interpretation is based on your Sunday School picture wherein you have acquiesed to the mortal man standing behind the podium and interpretating the "Holy Bible" for you. So, you run around the Internet playing christian evangelist spreading the "good word" because you heard it in a Sunday School presentation candy wrapped as "the good word" when in fact, it is nothing more than a interpretation at your church of worship. And you pay your 20% titheing as if you had a dime in your all-ready empty pockets. And you fill content and fulfilled as practicing as a "Christian." Unfortunately, you havn't convinced me that you are any closer to "God" than a Jehovah Witness knocking on my front door anxious to give me a copy of the WatchTower; you havn't convinced me that you know anything about "God" any more than a cheap charlatan masked as a snake oil salesman at a Barnum/Bailey Circus Wagon trying to make a buck.
Earlier I suggested you maintained a fantastick sort of "pronounced zeal" which should have struck you as an obvious indicator of your patent attempt towards appealing towards some emotional characteristic that you identify with. As for your dualistic question, you can answer that on your own.
You don't have answers?
You have all the wrong questions, Don.
You claim some sort of paper authority of and about Jesus Christ. You claim expertise of definitive answers about direct questions. You can not answer my simple question. Why is that?
As I look over your many posts about your self-acclaimed pedagogical approach concerning evangelical Christian ministerires, I see you can not answer simple questions. Yet, on the Internet, you have admitted to having many educational degrees of study about your faith, thus testifying to your committment of Jesus Christ. Why can't you answer simple questions? Instead, you reply with some sort of common BS as italized, above.
God said it. He is the best one to know, since He is the center of righteousness and all other attributes of God. How do you know He isn't, or do you believe it?
Please explain how you know that "God said it." Don't you really mean to say, "you believe God said it"; please be precise within your communications skills without offering mere conjecture, speculation and other unsubstantiated ideas.
I know it because I know there is a God who is sovereign over His Universe. Anyone who has a relationship with God knows He exists. A child of Satan cannot believe because Satan has a blindfold over his eyes. I suppose you cannot understand this type of evidence, and I should be patient with you. Not only are you blind to God, but you are condemned and your eyes will be opened when you stand before God at His Judgement Seat. The best that any Christian can do for you is pray for you.
Don - you have used redundancy and restatement as a method to provide support for your argument; if you allow me to parse your statement, I shall explain "why" --- This partial sentence sets the foundation for your approach that you intend to establish --- Sets the framework for supporting data within the context of your earlier foundation; this substructure of the sentence is the declarative or refinement of the conjugative context --- Is a restatement of the earlier foundation by mere substitution of "it" with "there is a God"; this is redundant and nothing more than restatement with substitution. You have ineffectively added to anyone's understanding about supporting mechanisms for your presentation. But you don't stop at your own nonsupportive discussion, you struggle by attempting to clarify your brief definition of "God" --- This is an unfortunate structural attempt at limiting "God" in the context of "His Universe" because your struggle for clarification actually confuses any reader of your post, i.e. infers other universes; furthermore your point infers that your belief of a "Satan" as the master of his or its own Universe may bridge all of humanity with God's eternal war against Satan with humanity caught in the middle of of "good" vs. "evil" battle which is a dualistic principle that I earlier introduced to you. The obvious error with your attempt to explain or clarify God's role about the Universe is that you position God as far from being sovereign of or about humanity or the Universe since there is an interactive characteristic that reflects some sort of meaningful conflict between "His Universe" and some other Universe or even many other Universes; this means the conflict may have infinite relationships; which means God does not possess any more sovereignty about the world around us than anyone else, including yourself. In other words, if such conflict is true, you imply God is limited and therefore God does not possess the power that you profess. I find your first statement to be redundant and revealing of a contradictory nature. For the rest of your post, I shall ignore altogether as you don't have the knowledge that you profess to have; you may believe your knowledge but you can't explain your way out of a wet paper bag to use a borrowed and often overused cliché.
I may well repeat things when you don't seem to be "getting it." To show you again, I do believe that God is the boss in His Universe. " I know it" is a partial statement to you. There is a subject and a verb which makes a complete sentence. If you are referring to "it," there is sufficient information to allow understanding the sentence. What is your educational level? I ask since you want to teach me how to compose a sentence in the English language. I will forego reading or commenting on the rest of your post since your response is devoid of supporting your stand and is merely an attempt to impress me with your level of nonsense.
Donnie, Donnie, Donnie ... I understand your points; my issue is that you confuse your points to me and all the readership. So, lets parse your statement: What happened to the idea or the concept or the belief or the holy focus of an all powerful God being omnipotent and ever present in all things? Why do you limit the power of God by suggesting your above quote? Don't you see you have hampered your own opinion? This is what I question about you and you can not answer my question because you are so involved with using words words by your fellow trusted "Christian" compadres, you can not snap out of the mind meld. Spare the viewing audience your own blastphemy by intentionally limiting the power of God.
You do know the difference between presenting an argument based on objective evidence opposed to stating assertions? If you refuse to examine the Scriptures, then you are not debating said Scriptures but making assertions based on your subjective propaganda.
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
You initiated this thread with some cheap "chick" kartoons. I have asked you questions with some historical tidbits about your frequently overused self-aclaimed degrees in Bible study and all you can say is: Man, you got balls. And this was YOUR thread. You are worthless to a discussion of and about your own presented material.
Where did I claim I had degrees in theology? And I stand by my post. You do not present polemical arguments only assertions.
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
I will answer this post when you frame it in a manner showing some logic. Try it again.
This place has become a ghost town. Has everyone died?
Entirely possible......because the target demographic of this forum is: "Old, angry, white guys, who thrive on hatred and personal attacks, do not admit to wearing adult diapers, and haven't been capable of forming an original thought since those bastard dems brought down Nixon. But I am hopeful that the absence of stone's regulars can be attributed to reduced computer time at the Arkansas nursing homes, and not anyone's actual demise.
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#2. To: buckeroo (#1)
#3. To: redleghunter (#2)
#4. To: buckeroo (#3)
#5. To: buckeroo (#3)
#6. To: redleghunter (#4)
www.biblegateway.com/vers...-James-Version-KJV-Bible/
#7. To: Don (#5)
God tells us His word is holy.
The Holy Bible tells us He is Holy.
The millions of People who have known God tells us His word is Holy. The millions of people who today know God witness that His word is Holy. There is a great list of witnesses who say His word is holy.
The Holy Bible tells us He is Holy.
#8. To: buckeroo (#7)
#9. To: Don (#8)
If you want to know which ones they are, I will tell you.
#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)
#11. To: buckeroo (#6)
#12. To: Don (#10)
#13. To: Don (#8)
You cannot hear God because you aren't a Christian. You do hear temptations whispering all the time. You just don't think it is anything but your own thoughts.
T suspect you have already heard this; however, God did write the Holy Bible. The Only begotten Son of God came to Earth and lived a part of the New Testament. You already know this.
The millions are the Christians. Just pick out a Christian Church and go in. You'll find your witnesses there. If you were making any sort of effort and wanted to know, this would have already occurred to. Many witnesses have died as martyrs to testify as witnesses. There is a book called A Cloud of Witnesses written many years ago.
Man has written various versions of the Holy Bible. Satan has used people to spread confusion to stop people from arriving at the truth. Even now, if you wanted the truth, God Himself would see that you arrive at truth in your search for Him. There are versions of the Bible that I trust. If you want to know which ones they are, I will tell you.
It isn't God who spreads confusion, it is Satan, the Great Liar and deceiver.
#14. To: redleghunter (#11)
#15. To: buckeroo (#14)
#16. To: buckeroo (#13)
#17. To: Don (#15)
#18. To: Don (#16)
#19. To: buckeroo (#17)
#20. To: buckeroo (#18)
#21. To: buckeroo (#13)
#22. To: Don (#21)
#23. To: Don (#19)
#24. To: Don (#20)
Zeal vs. non zeal ?
#25. To: buckeroo (#24)
#26. To: Don (#25)
#27. To: redleghunter (#3)
Who says "God's Word" is Holy?
#28. To: redleghunter (#11)
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Read the scriptures and the answer is apparent.
#29. To: buckeroo (#27)
#30. To: Don (#29)
God said it. He is the best one to know, since He is the center of righteousness and all other attributes of God.
#31. To: buckeroo (#30)
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#32. To: Don (#31)
I know it because I know there is a God who is sovereign over His Universe.
I know it
because
I know there is a God
who is sovereign over His Universe.
#33. To: buckeroo (#32)
#34. To: Don (#33)
I may well repeat things when you don't seem to be "getting it." To show you again, I do believe that God is the boss in His Universe.
I do believe that God is the boss in His Universe.
#35. To: buckeroo (#28)
#36. To: redleghunter (#35)
You do know the difference between presenting an argument based on objective evidence opposed to stating assertions?
#37. To: buckeroo (#36)
#38. To: buckeroo (#34)
#39. To: All (#38)
#40. To: Don (#39)
Has everyone died?
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