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Title: Judge: NSA domestic phone data-mining unconstitutional
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/16/justice/nsa-surveillance-court-ruling/
Published: Dec 16, 2013
Author: Bill Mears and Evan Perez, CNN
Post Date: 2013-12-16 20:19:24 by buck
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Views: 2869
Comments: 7

Washington (CNN) -- A federal judge said Monday that he believes the government's once-secret collection of domestic phone records is unconstitutional, setting up likely appeals and further challenges to the data mining revealed by classified leaker Edward Snowden.

U.S. District Judge Richard Leon said the National Security Agency's bulk collection of metadata -- phone records of the time and numbers called without any disclosure of content -- apparently violates privacy rights.

His preliminary ruling favored five plaintiffs challenging the practice, but Leon limited the decision only to their cases.

NSA phone surveillance unconstitutional?

"I cannot imagine a more 'indiscriminate' and 'arbitrary invasion' than this systematic and high-tech collection and retention of personal data on virtually every citizen for purposes of querying and analyzing it without prior judicial approval," said Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush. "Surely, such a program infringes on 'that degree of privacy' that the Founders enshrined in the Fourth Amendment."

Leon's ruling said the "plaintiffs in this case have also shown a strong likelihood of success on the merits of a Fourth Amendment claim," adding "as such, they too have adequately demonstrated irreparable injury."

He rejected the government's argument that a 1979 Maryland case provided precedent for the constitutionality of collecting phone metadata, noting that public use of telephones had increased dramatically in the past three decades.

Leon also noted that the government "does not cite a single instance in which analysis of the NSA's bulk metadata collection actually stopped an imminent attack, or otherwise aided the government in achieving any objective that was time-sensitive in nature."

However, he put off enforcing his order barring the government from collecting the information, pending an appeal by the government.

A Justice Department spokesman said Monday that "we believe the program is constitutional as previous judges have found," but said the ruling is being studied.

Democratic Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, a critic of the NSA data mining, said Leon's ruling showed that "the bulk collection of Americans' phone records conflicts with Americans' privacy rights under the U.S. Constitution and has failed to make us safer."

He called on Congress to pass legislation he proposed to "ensure the NSA focuses on terrorists and spies - and not innocent Americans."

Explosive revelations earlier this year by Snowden, a former NSA contractor, triggered new debate about national security and privacy interests in the aftermath of the September 2001 terrorist attacks.

Snowden's revelations led to more public disclosure about the secretive legal process that sets in motion the government surveillance.

In a statement distributed by journalist Glenn Greenwald, who first reported the leaks, Snowden said he acted on the belief that the mass surveillance program would not withstand a constitutional challenge, and that Americans deserved a judicial review.

"Today, a secret program authorized by a secret court was, when exposed to the light of day, found to violate Americans' rights. It is the first of many," according to Snowden, who is living in Russia under a grant of asylum to avoid prosecution over the leaks in the United States.

The NSA has admitted it received secret court approval to collect vast amounts of metadata from telecom giant Verizon and leading Internet companies, including Microsoft, Apple, Google, Yahoo and Facebook.

The case before Leon involved approval for surveillance in April by a judge at the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), a secret body that handles individual requests for electronic surveillance for "foreign intelligence purposes."

Verizon Business Network Services turned over the metadata to the government.

Leon's ruling comes as the Obama administration completes a review of NSA surveillance in the aftermath of the Snowden leaks.

CNN's Jake Tapper reported Monday that tech company executives would meet with President Barack Obama at the White House on Tuesday to discuss the issue.

Obama plans to sit down with Tim Cook of Apple and Eric Schmidt of Google, as well as executives from Twitter, Microsoft, Facebook, Salesforce, Netflix , Etsy, Dropbox, Yahoo!, Zynga, Sherpa Global, Comcast, LinkedIn and AT&T, a White House official said.

Some of those companies issued a joint letter last week calling on the government to change its surveillance policies in the wake of the Snowden revelations.

Last month, the Supreme Court refused to take up the issue when it denied a separate petition, which was filed by the Electronic Information Privacy Center. Prior lawsuits against the broader NSA program also have been unsuccessful.

Days after the Snowden disclosure in June, some Verizon customers filed legal challenges in the D.C. federal court.

The left-leaning American Civil LIberties Union also filed a separate, pending suit in New York federal court.

Under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of the 1970s, the secret courts were set up to grant certain types of government requests-- wiretapping, data analysis, and other monitoring of possible terrorists and spies operating in the United States.

The Patriot Act that Congress passed after the 9/11 attacks broadened the government's ability to conduct anti-terrorism surveillance in the United States and abroad, eventually including the metadata collection.

In order to collect the information, the government has to demonstrate that it's "relevant" to an international terrorism investigation.

However, the 1978 FISA law lays out exactly what the special court must decide: "A judge considering a petition to modify or set aside a nondisclosure order may grant such petition only if the judge finds that there is no reason to believe that disclosure may endanger the national security of the United States, interfere with a criminal, counterterrorism, or counterintelligence investigation, interfere with diplomatic relations, or endanger the life or physical safety of any person."

In defending the program, NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander told the Senate Judiciary Committee last week that "15 separate judges of the FISA Court have held on 35 occasions that Section 215 (of the Patriot Act) authorizes the collection of telephony metadata in bulk in support of counterterrorism investigations."

Initially, telecommunications companies such as Verizon, were the targets of legal action against Patriot Act provisions. Congress later gave retroactive immunity to those private businesses.

The revelations of the NSA program and the inner workings of the FISC court came after Snowden leaked documents to the Guardian newspaper. Snowden fled to Hong Kong and then Russia to escape U.S. prosecution.

The case is Klayman v. Obama (13-cv-881).

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#1. To: buck (#0)

Good news. However some bloggers will be disappointed the NSA was not interested in what they had to say:)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-16   20:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#1)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/16/nsa-phone-data-ruling-snowden-reaction/4045387/

Edward Snowden said Monday that his decision to expose National Security Agency surveillance programs was vindicated by a federal judge's ruling that the mass collection of phone data is probably unconstitutional.

"I acted on my belief that the N.S.A.'s mass surveillance programs would not withstand a constitutional challenge, and that the American public deserved a chance to see these issues determined by open courts," Snowden, who resides in Russia under temporary political asylum, said in a statement. "Today, a secret program authorized by a secret court was, when exposed to the light of day, found to violate Americans' rights. It is the first of many."

Snowden's statement was passed to The New York Times by journalist Glenn Greenwald, who while working for the Guardian broke the story about the bulk collection of data based on secret files the former NSA contractor shared. Two weeks ago, the Guardian's editor said the newspaper had published only 1% of the material.

Greenwald echoed Snowden's sentiments during an appearance on MSNBC. He praised him because Snowden "came forward because, as he said, he found out that the government in secret was violating our constitutional rights, and could not in good conscience let that stand."

Monday's ruling came as the White House declared that Snowden would not receive amnesty.

buck  posted on  2013-12-16   20:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buck, A K A Stone (#2)

Maybe we are getting a taste of what it will be like on Judgment Day:

Luke 8:

17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)

redleghunter  posted on  2013-12-17   12:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buck (#2)

The NSA doesn't give a shit but G_od's self choosen people do.

www.businessinsider.com/i...the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6

whyofcourse  posted on  2013-12-17   13:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: whyofcourse (#4)

Now that you mention the 'self-choosen'...

It occurs to me that of all the Snowden (bless his soul) revelations that have come about, very little mention of the bastard state, some here call israel, so far?

Edward saving the good stuff for leverage perhaps?

All here damn well know the zionists are also enjoy and facilitating the spying on very goddamned one of us.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2013-12-17   18:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buck (#0)

Judge: NSA domestic phone data-mining unconstitutional

The CNN headline may be a bit misleading. This was not a trial opinion but a pre-trial opinion on a motion for an injunction. The Court found that the moving parties had met their burden and showed "a strong liklihood of success on the merits of a Fourth Amendment claim." Actual success on the merits awaits the results of a trial yet to be held.

The judge limited his Opinion so it only applied to the records of Larry Klayman and Charles Strange. He stayed his order pending appeal.

Clayman v. Obama, DCDC 13-0851, Doc 48, MEMORANDUM OPINION (16 Dec 2013) (68 pp.)

At 65:

Plaintiffs in this case have also shown a strong likelihood of success on the merits of a Fourth Amendment claim."

At 67:

But in the meantime, for all the above reasons, I will grant Larry Klayman's and Charles Strange's requests for an injunction and enter an order that (1) bars the Government from collecting, as part of the NSA's Bulk Telephony Metadata Program, any telephony metadata associated with their personal Verizon accounts and (2) requires the Government to destroy any such metadata in its possession that was collected through the bulk collection program.

However, in light of the significant national security interests at stake in this case and the novelty of the constitutional issues, I will stay my order pending appeal. In doing so, I hereby give the Government fair notice that should my ruling be upheld, this order will go into effect forthwith. Accordingly, I fully expect that during the appellate process, which will consume at least the next six months, the Government will take whatever steps necessary to prepare itself to comply with this order when, and if, it is upheld. Suffice it to say, requesting further time to comply with this order months from now will not be well received and could result in collateral sanctions.

nolu chan  posted on  2013-12-17   19:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

This was not a trial opinion but a pre-trial opinion on a motion for an injunction.

Yes. The idea is "traction." The theft by government about the fourth amendment and the first amendment may gain further interest by an otherwise docile and timid people in the USA.

buck  posted on  2013-12-17   21:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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