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Published: Jul 29, 2013
Author: me
Post Date: 2013-07-29 11:30:20 by We The People
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I want to create an organization. A constitutional guard duty sort of organization, outlining past, ongoing and current violations to the US Constitution, and build a network of 'guards', always on duty, watching for new violations and I want to list those violations on a website. The purpose of the site will be to hopefully educate and inform the public. I will fund the organization and the website and will not be soliciting donations. If this catches on and grows the organization may solicit donations in the future, for attorneys to litigate, for educational video presentations, or for a whole host of unforeseen expenses. I don't know of any past or present member of the military who doesn't understand the concept of guard duty so I hope to attract members of the military. I want this organization to be non-profit and fiercely non-partisan, so as to attract the largest number of people. What I need is ideas. I can build the website, but I need ideas on the structure of the organization as well as the structure of the site, opening statements on the main page, etc. I want to list the text of the US Constitution, its history and a summary of what it means. I want to list the Bill of Rights and a summary of what they mean. I know this has been done before, but I haven't done it before so I'm going to. Anyone want to help?
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#1. To: We The People (#0)
You may want to review the current groups involved representing a multitude of principles. You also used to post a graphic depicting the interlocking of ideas, so you might want to use that as a baseline. Just a casual search lists hundreds of such sites and perhaps using a web- traffic monitoring site to determine which ones are most viewed and reasons why.
At what level will be the focus of violations? Federal, state, city, town, etc.? Some folks still fight the Civil War and Lincoln today regarding constitutional issues and violations. I understand guard duty, but don't see how 8 hour shifts would be useful in this project when information flows continuously and it's easy to catch a violation tomorrow that occurred yesterday. Just my thoughts.
Just a casual search lists hundreds of such sites and perhaps using a web- traffic monitoring site to determine which ones are most viewed and reasons why. Excellent ideas. Thank you.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
I think one has to first determine the criteria for what qualifies as a violation of the constitution, and when you can't even get nine Supreme court justices, not to mention those at the state levels to agree, it's going to be a pretty tough job for lay people.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Not sure. I originally thought federal, but violations are violations I guess. Would have to figure out how far to go I guess. If this idea is followed to infinity, there may not be enough bandwidth in the universe to list it all. I understand guard duty, but don't see how 8 hour shifts would be useful in this project when information flows continuously and it's easy to catch a violation tomorrow that occurred yesterday. Just my thoughts. Not thinking 8 hour shifts, more like "If you see something, say something" kind of thing. Thanks for your input Fred. I knew I'd get good ideas and would be made to think deeply if I posted this.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
I agree. How would you propose the criteria be set? Any input is appreciated.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
I think he should let Stone be the final judge on whether or not a violation occurred. You make good points.
I would think that all except maybe Bush, Obama and Eric Holder could agree that any law that authorizes indefinite detention of an American citizen is a violation of the Constitution. As well as blanket intel gathering on American citizens. Basically, if most agree it's a violation. it's a violation. Hell, even if most don't agree. If the text of a law violates the Constitution it's pretty obvious, even to lay people, and we DO have a right to say we believe it to be unconstitutional under the 1st Amendment.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
I want to list the Bill of Rights and a summary of what they mean. I suggest you start with the Preamble,and focus strongly on the "all men are created equal..." part and explain the meaning to the poorly educated people of today that actually think that means all men have equal ability and talent. It doesn't mean that at all. It essentially means the opposite of that because the reference is to "in the eyes of the law/government". More plainly,it means THERE ARE NO SPECIAL CLASSES OF CITIZENS WITH MORE RIGHTS THAN OTHER CLASSES OF CITIZENS. Which means,NO QUOTAS. NO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NO HATE CRIME LAWS. NO SPECIAL LAWS,RETIREMENT PROGRAMS,HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS,OR ANY OTHER BENEFIT IS TO BE GIVEN TO THE ELECTED OR APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVES THAT ISN'T EQUALLY AVAILABLE TO THE TYPICAL VOTER. IF THE LAWS THEY VOTE FOR ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US,THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM TO LIVE UNDER,TOO. THE PEOPLE ARE THE MASTER OF GOVERNMENT,INSTEAD OF GOVERNMENT BEING THE MASTER OF THE PEOPLE.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm one of them. That evil bastard should have been removed from office and hanged when he threatened to sent US Marshals to arrest and hold the Supreme Court in a military prison without trial until the war ended if they did as threatened and ruled that he didn't have the authority to prevent the south from seceding from the then-existing VOLUNTARY union.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It doesn't mean that at all. It essentially means the opposite of that because the reference is to "in the eyes of the law/government". More plainly,it means THERE ARE NO SPECIAL CLASSES OF CITIZENS WITH MORE RIGHTS THAN OTHER CLASSES OF CITIZENS. Which means,NO QUOTAS. NO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NO HATE CRIME LAWS.............. Yet most those class of laws you cited where created to stop the inequalities enacted by an already entrenched special class of people. How are those laws not constitutional then?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
And just like that, www.constitutionguard.org is born.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
It doesn't mean that at all. It essentially means the opposite of that because the reference is to "in the eyes of the law/government". More plainly,it means THERE ARE NO SPECIAL CLASSES OF CITIZENS WITH MORE RIGHTS THAN OTHER CLASSES OF CITIZENS. Which means,NO QUOTAS. NO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NO HATE CRIME LAWS. NO SPECIAL LAWS,RETIREMENT PROGRAMS,HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS,OR ANY OTHER BENEFIT IS TO BE GIVEN TO THE ELECTED OR APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVES THAT ISN'T EQUALLY AVAILABLE TO THE TYPICAL VOTER. IF THE LAWS THEY VOTE FOR ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US,THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM TO LIVE UNDER,TOO. THE PEOPLE ARE THE MASTER OF GOVERNMENT,INSTEAD OF GOVERNMENT BEING THE MASTER OF THE PEOPLE. Thank you! Excellent! And I agree 100%.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
Constitutional Principles: All Men Are Created Equal An entire page could be dedicated to that simple idea. This is what I mean about the structure of the site. This is going to be a large site and is going to require a LOT of work. I'm excited about it!
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
You really and truly are that stupid,aren't you?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
All Men Are Created Equal An entire page could be dedicated to that simple idea. I suggest a whole topic be dedicated to that subject,and topics also be created to educate people about the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist papers. If you don't start at the roots you will never get anywhere.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Anyone good at web graphics?
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
Hondo's good at finding funny graphics. He could find serious graphics and cut and paste them, as long as the D&R regime isn't in the Constitution. He may be creative in a design sort of way - not sure.
Nope, white males had entrenched their presence through laws and regulations. Which is why in spite of my superior grades over most of the 'qualified' male candidates I couldn't qualify for the two slots held for women in the University veterinary program. Of course I could get on the then estimated 17 year waiting list. But only if I kept up prereqs in the major. Now they don't use AA because the process is entirely based on grades and qualifications not related to being groomed for the role of being the chief bread winner in the family.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I'm not an artist, so recruiting one might need to be on the todo list. There's a lot of graphics out there so only the occasional specific ones would have to be created. For instance taking a pic, and adding text. I may be able to come up with concepts, but someone else will have to do the artwork. Maybe the site should be similar to the DrudgeReport, in a news format, but more non-partisan and less mainstream? Got to make it interesting to attract viewers. Drudge just links to other sites, and has almost no original content. Also, the name can be changed easily, so if anyone can come up with a better one, please do.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
Without question,but that wouldn't be me.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sounds like a crock to me. Most of the vets I know are female. Come to think of it,most of the vets I have dealt with over the years have been female. Since I have a tendency to adopt pretty much anything that wanders up and looks hungry,that means I have dealt with more than a few.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Name changed to wefreepeople.com. Still working on the site as I can. When it's up, I'll link to it here.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
I meant to address that last post to 'all'.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
Can I get some help with a mission statement? What I want to say is something along the lines of this... "We Free People Mission Statement We are not Democrats... we are not Republicans... we are Americans. We are the free American citizens who have had enough of our own federal and State governments working against us, our freedom, our Constitution, our founding principles, our sovereignty and our country. We absolutely believe in the founding principles of this nation as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights and we will protect and defend them against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. We recognize that decades ago our own federal government initiated a war and continues to wage war against our inherent freedoms and liberties as defined in the first ten Amendments to the US Constitution. That's what I have so far. Any ideas?
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
Constitutional violations are clear as day. Just ignore the socialist/commies like yourself. Your type is nothing but liars, cheaters and killers.
Just ignore the socialist/commies like yourself. Your type is nothing but liars, cheaters and killers. I never cheat and I don't lie or kill. Too bad you can't see the truth, but then that trait is what makes you a conservative. The constitution protects all US citizens, not just White Christian Males.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
When all you have to fall back on is name calling, then that means you have LOST.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
What you've written is nice but I'd call it "Who We Are" rather than a mission statement. Your mission statement lacks a purpose. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement I have a rough idea of your purpose: to identify Constitutional violations, to become better informed citizens of the Constitution, etc. Good luck. I didn't realize you were banned from elPee, as I saw your thread over there yesterday.
I'll give you the cheat. You lie when you said you used to be a conservaitive. Also lucysmom. You kill when you vote for Obamabortion.
So then Palin's association with McCain is a non issue with you? Her association with McCain? You mean how she "adores John McCain and supports him 100%"? No, that doesn't bother me. It's that she "adores John McCain and supports him 100%" while pretending to be a conservative that gets under my skin. We The People posted on 2011-07-30 I've really had enough of you. I just reviewed your account, and aside from harassing members of this site, you have had zero to say here. You are just wasting bandwidth...so I'm just going to toss you under the bus. and no...that was NOT a threat! I've just banned your account. Goldi-Lox posted on 2011-07-31 Weeps offense seems to have been, disrespecting yukon, and failure to worship Princess Sarah.
What I intend for this statement is just that, a simple statement. Basically outlining the most blatant unconstitutional acts and simply saying we the people aren't going to stand for it. I do not want to go as far as laying out a course of action if our goals of ending these acts are not met. The statement, and hopefully the large number of people who sign on it, is the goal. It's a simple petition, but hopefully a very large one. I have a rough idea of your purpose: to identify Constitutional violations, to become better informed citizens of the Constitution, etc. Yes. But also to send a message to .gov.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
Here is one for you. We the people are sick of you the establshment. You are not our masters. We are not your slaves. Stop screwing with our rights. Or we will kick your asses.
I like it! I'll put that in there somewhere.
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
But you don't like the kick your asses part. Shucks. You should have read it before I self edited it before posting.
Pretty good, Stoned. You might try one more edit.
Right. I wasn't sure if you wanted an activism aspect to your mission. Lot of folks like to let their congress critters know what's on their minds. I used to.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, hondolt.
That doesn't seem to be a problem anymore now does it... Speaking of the canary does anybody know where he and the other 2 Stooges went??
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
See reply number 1 on this thread !!
That's one of the 2 stooges but 2 posts in 3 months doesn't exactly mean he's taken up residence here, more like a drive by poster...
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Gatlin is probably touring the hellholes of the world, looking for participants for the 2016 GOP debates?
I wonder if his personal shrink and Alaska's finest is with him since the three are inseparable??
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
We are not Democrats... we are not Republicans... we are Americans. We are the free American citizens who have had enough of our own federal government working against us, our freedoms, our Constitutions, our founding principles, our sovereignty, our economy and our country in general. WE are the power in this nation, not the government. We Free People absolutely believe in the founding principles of this nation as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We recognize the US Constitution as the Supreme Law Of The Land, and we free people will protect and defend it against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. We Free People recognize that decades ago our own federal government initiated a war and continues to wage war against our inherent freedoms and liberties as defined in the first ten Amendments to the US Constitution. This includes, but is not limited to; In passing legislation that allows the indefinite detention of American citizens without a trial, Congress and the President have violated the 6th Amendment to the US Constitution. In passing legislation that allows the federal government to gather intelligence on communications of American citizens, to intercept phone calls, emails and other private conversations of American citizens, Congress and the President have violated the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. In passing legislation that deprives otherwise law abiding citizens of obtaining, owning and bearing a firearm, Congress and the President, as well as many State governments have violated the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. We Free People recognize these violations of our inherent freedoms and it is our intention to end these and other unconstitutional and illegal acts against the free American people. This is our message to you concerning our freedom; You are not our masters and we are not your slaves. YOU WORK FOR US! You are servants of WE FREE PEOPLE! We have been pushed just about as far as we're going to be pushed. When you have pushed too far, you will know it. There will be no question. The United States federal government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed. We Free People say to the federal government, YOU DO NOT HAVE OUR CONSENT TO VIOLATE THE US CONSTITUTION AND ATTACK AND LEGISLATE AWAY OUR INHERENT FREEDOMS. We will not comply with your unconstitutional acts, we will not stand for your unconstitutional acts, we will not remain silent, we will not falter and we will not fail. We SHALL remain free, despite your efforts. It's OK if you doubt our resolve. The King doubted our forefathers too. We intend to see these illegal and unconstitutional acts ended. The spirit of resistance to tyranny that our forefathers had, who bled and died for these very freedoms, is alive and well in we free people. Something like that. Thoughts?
We used to be a land where we gave up our lives to protect our freedom. Now we give up our freedom to protect our lives.
I think it is a good statement. I think you should go and buy some body armor now. They kill people with non slave mentalities.
I need ideas on the structure of the organization as well as the structure of the site, opening statements on the main page, etc.
#2. To: We The People (#0)
#3. To: harrowup (#1)
You may want to review the current groups involved representing a multitude of principles. You also used to post a graphic depicting the interlocking of ideas, so you might want to use that as a baseline.
#4. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
At what level will be the focus of violations? Federal, state, city, town, etc.?
#5. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
At what level will be the focus of violations? Federal, state, city, town, etc.?
#6. To: mininggold (#4)
I think one has to first determine the criteria for what qualifies as a violation of the constitution, and when you can't even get nine Supreme court justices, not to mention those at the state levels to agree, it's going to be a pretty tough job for lay people.
#7. To: mininggold (#4)
#8. To: mininggold (#6)
I think one has to first determine the criteria for what qualifies as a violation of the constitution
#9. To: We The People (#0)
I want to list the text of the US Constitution, its history and a summary of what it means.
#10. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
Some folks still fight the Civil War and Lincoln today regarding constitutional issues and violations.
#11. To: sneakypete (#9)
I suggest you start with the Preamble,and focus strongly on the "all men are created equal..." part and explain the meaning to the poorly educated people of today that actually think that means all men have equal ability and talent.
#12. To: All (#0)
#13. To: sneakypete (#9)
I suggest you start with the Preamble,and focus strongly on the "all men are created equal..." part and explain the meaning to the poorly educated people of today that actually think that means all men have equal ability and talent.
#14. To: sneakypete (#10)
#15. To: mininggold (#11)
Yet most those class of laws you cited where created to stop the inequalities enacted by an already entrenched special class of people. How are those laws not constitutional then?
#16. To: We The People (#14)
Constitutional Principles:
#17. To: sneakypete, All (#16)
#18. To: We The People, hondo68 (#17)
#19. To: sneakypete (#15)
(Edited)
You really and truly are that stupid,aren't you?
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#18)
(Edited)
He may be creative in a design sort of way - not sure
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#21. To: All (#20)
#22. To: We The People (#0)
I don't know of any past or present member of the military who doesn't understand the concept of guard duty so I hope to attract members of the military.
NSA SEARCH TAG: Tea Party, White House, Constitution, Obama, Allahu Akbar, Air Plane, Pressure Cooker, Ruby Ridge, Waco
#23. To: We The People (#17)
Anyone good at web graphics?
#24. To: mininggold (#19)
Which is why in spite of my superior grades over most of the 'qualified' male candidates I couldn't qualify for the two slots held for women in the University veterinary program.
#25. To: sneakypete (#24)
#26. To: sneakypete, All (#25)
#27. To: All (#26)
(Edited)
#28. To: mininggold (#4)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)
(Edited)
Constitutional violations are clear as day.
#30. To: sneakypete (#15)
You really and truly are that stupid,aren't you?
#31. To: We The People (#27)
That's what I have so far. Any ideas?
#32. To: mininggold (#29)
I never cheat and I don't lie or kill. Too bad you can't see the truth
#33. To: Fred Mertz, We The People (#31)
#17. To: yukon (#15)
#36. To: We The People (#24) The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote Third Party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#34. To: Fred Mertz (#31)
What you've written is nice but I'd call it "Who We Are" rather than a mission statement. Your mission statement lacks a purpose.
#35. To: We The People (#34)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)
You are not our masters. We are not your slaves.
#37. To: We The People (#36)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)
#39. To: We The People (#34)
Yes. But also to send a message to .gov.
#40. To: hondo68 (#33)
Weeps offense seems to have been, disrespecting yukon, and failure to worship Princess Sarah.
#41. To: hondo68 (#33)
Weeps offense seems to have been, disrespecting yukon,
#42. To: CZ82 (#41)
#43. To: Fred Mertz (#42)
#44. To: CZ82 (#41)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote Third Party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#45. To: hondo68 (#44)
#46. To: All (#36)
We Free People Statement
#47. To: We The People (#46)
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