New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is ripping libertarians including Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) for challenging government surveillance programs and failing to understand the dangers of terrorism.
This strain of libertarianism thats going through parties right now and making big headlines I think is a very dangerous thought, the New Jersey GOP governor said on Thursday at a Republican governors forum in Aspen, Colo. You can name any number of people and (Paul is) one of them.
Christie, a potential 2016 candidate who appeared on the panel with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, said lawmakers who are questioning government surveillance programs should hear from the families affected by the Sept. 11 attacks.
These esoteric, intellectual debates I want them to come to New Jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. And they wont, because thats a much tougher conversation to have, Christie said.
The next attack that comes, that kills thousands of Americans as a result, people are going to be looking back on the people having this intellectual debate and wondering whether they put Christie said before trailing off.
Pauls office shot back on Friday, saying Christie may need a new dictionary.
If Gov. Christie believes the constitutional rights and the privacy of all Americans is esoteric, he either needs a new dictionary, or he needs to talk to more Americans, because a great number of them are concerned about the dramatic overreach of our government in recent years, Doug Stafford, a senior adviser to Paul, said in a statement to POLITICO. Defending America and fighting terrorism is the concern of all Americans, especially Sen. Paul. But it can and must be done in keeping with our Constitution and while protecting the freedoms that make America exceptional.
In the words of the governors favorite lyricist, You know that flag flying over the courthouse, Means certain things are set in stone. Who we are, what well do and what we wont, Stafford added, citing Bruce Springsteen lyrics.
At the forum in Aspen, Christie also praised President Barack Obamas and George W. Bushs policies used to fight terrorism.
President Obama has done nothing to change the policies of the Bush administration in the war on terrorism. And I mean practically nothing, he said. And you know why? Cause they work.
Poster Comment:
Christie and Congress should explain why they presume that 911 widows and orphans are suspected of terrorism, and should be spied on by their government in violation of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution?
President Obama has done nothing to change the policies of the Bush administration in the war on terrorism. And I mean practically nothing, he said. And you know why?
Because Obama's is a hate America globalist neocon tyrant too.
I'm one of seven. Most people have brothers and sisters. That doesn't mean that I've got a lot in common with Obama's family in Kenya, or Mitt's in Mexico!
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Thanks for the clarification. I'll bet Weeps is shorter than 5'9".
Oh FUUUUUUUUDDGGEE! (Ever seen A Christmas Story?)
Sure Fred, let's just derail the thread with your personal bullshit.
I am one of 4, I'm 5'11", 210 lbs and I like long walks on the beach and beating the hell out of people at the gym. I keep my hair high and tight in a flat top.
I like him too so far. There are many issues on which he is an unknown because he hasn't had the opportunity to vote on them yet. I stopped listening to what they say long ago and just started watching how they vote.
After hearing so much negative stuff about Rand Paul day after day,it sure is refreshing to hear something positive.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when its the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Two people I know in NJ love Christie. Both are Pubbies, one of them is my dad.
Fred,you have to cut your father a little slack on this one. He's old.
What's wrong with the other guy?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when its the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
My list is almost the same,but mine says "ANYBODY named Bush".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when its the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Also, I'd like to know why his law firm gave $200,000.00 to the Obama campaign.
Is this true,or internet rumor?
Is he the managing partner of the firm or in a position to veto contributions like that?
Not doubting you or defending Cruz,just asking for clarification.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when its the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when its the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Is he the managing partner of the firm or in a position to veto contributions like that?
Not sure of the particulars, that's why I'd like answer too.
Just found this...
Second, the ad asks: But did you know [Cruzs] law firm contributed over $200,000 to elect Barack Obama? Yes, his coworkers did, but Cruz didnt. Over the years, the candidate himself has donated to such Republicans as Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison, and John Cornyn. But hes never donated to Obama.
Furthermore, the firm itself did not donate that money. The ad cites a compilation by Sunlight Foundation, which finds that in 2008 the firms employees donated $189,184 to the Democratic presidential candidate. So far this year, however, the firms employees have given Mitt Romney the most money, at $45,668. Obama, meanwhile, has received $12,700. (Cruz is the second-most-popular candidate at $34,650.) In other words, Cruz works with a lot of fat-wallet Democrats. That doesnt make him one.
Here's another page showing all political campaign contributions "Includes contributions from the organizations employees, their family members, and its political action committee."
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when its the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)