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Title: Chris Christie: Rand Paul ‘dangerous’
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POLITICO
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/ ... -paul-2016-election-94789.html
Published: Jul 26, 2013
Author: HADAS GOLD
Post Date: 2013-07-26 10:06:53 by Hondo68
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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is ripping libertarians — including Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) — for challenging government surveillance programs and failing to understand the dangers of terrorism. “This strain of libertarianism that’s going through parties right now and making big headlines I think is a very dangerous thought,” the New Jersey GOP governor said on Thursday at a Republican governors forum in Aspen, Colo. “You can name any number of people and (Paul is) one of them.” Christie, a potential 2016 candidate who appeared on the panel with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, said lawmakers who are questioning government surveillance programs should hear from the families affected by the Sept. 11 attacks. “These esoteric, intellectual debates — I want them to come to New Jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. And they won’t, because that’s a much tougher conversation to have,” Christie said. “The next attack that comes, that kills thousands of Americans as a result, people are going to be looking back on the people having this intellectual debate and wondering whether they put …” Christie said before trailing off. Paul’s office shot back on Friday, saying Christie may need a “new dictionary.” “If Gov. Christie believes the constitutional rights and the privacy of all Americans is ‘esoteric’, he either needs a new dictionary, or he needs to talk to more Americans, because a great number of them are concerned about the dramatic overreach of our government in recent years,” Doug Stafford, a senior adviser to Paul, said in a statement to POLITICO. “Defending America and fighting terrorism is the concern of all Americans, especially Sen. Paul. But it can and must be done in keeping with our Constitution and while protecting the freedoms that make America exceptional.” “In the words of the governor’s favorite lyricist, ‘You know that flag flying over the courthouse, Means certain things are set in stone. Who we are, what we’ll do and what we won’t,’” Stafford added, citing Bruce Springsteen lyrics. At the forum in Aspen, Christie also praised President Barack Obama’s and George W. Bush’s policies used to fight terrorism. “President Obama has done nothing to change the policies of the Bush administration in the war on terrorism. And I mean practically nothing,” he said. “And you know why? Cause they work.”
Poster Comment: Christie and Congress should explain why they presume that 911 widows and orphans are suspected of terrorism, and should be spied on by their government in violation of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution? The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free.
“President Obama has done nothing to change the policies of the Bush administration in the war on terrorism. And I mean practically nothing,” he said. “And you know why?
Because Obama's is a hate America globalist neocon tyrant too.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Both you and Christie don't like Paul.
I'm not a big fan of Rand's myself, but he's light years, far and away better than that fat, leftist from Jersey.
Two people I know in NJ love Christie. Both are Pubbies, one of them is my dad.
I like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. I'd vote for any of them for President. Here are the no's. Cristie, Bush, Mccain, Graham
Cristie, Bush, Mccain, Graham You like that crybaby from Ohio, Boehner? I like Rand Paul a lot more than fat boy Christie. What I don't like about Rand is that he's a reconquista, and endorsed gun grabbing gay reconquista marxist Mitt. His statement that their families had a lot in common because he had brothers and sisters too, was idiotic... pitiful.
Are you an only child? That would explain a lot. I was one of nine siblings.
...and here comes the leftist turning a perfectly good conversation about politicians into something personal.
It was a relevant reply to his comments, crybaby.
I'm one of seven. Most people have brothers and sisters. That doesn't mean that I've got a lot in common with Obama's family in Kenya, or Mitt's in Mexico!
Thanks for the clarification. I'll bet Weeps is shorter than 5'9".
I like Cruz, but I have questions. Like why is he a free trader? How can he possibly hold his other positions, and support and support expanding free trade policies? Also, I'd like to know why his law firm gave $200,000.00 to the Obama campaign.
Oh FUUUUUUUUDDGGEE! (Ever seen A Christmas Story?) Sure Fred, let's just derail the thread with your personal bullshit. I am one of 4, I'm 5'11", 210 lbs and I like long walks on the beach and beating the hell out of people at the gym. I keep my hair high and tight in a flat top. Anything else you'd care to know?
Yes, why did you use the Eff word? You'd be banned elsewhere for that. I have a hanky if you need one.
It was relevant on a dating site maybe!
You can use the edit feature to clean up your profanity in reply #12. You're welcome.
I used the 'Eff' word because you children frustrate the FUUUUUUUUDDGGEE out of me. Stone, can we have a forum for dating, hookups and exploring our feelings and a separate one to discuss politics?
Fred misses yukon and the canary family, tater, war, and the ACLU admiral goat herder.
I'm very sorry for your loss. What do you think of the POLITICIANS listed above and why?
Like why is he a free trader? Most likely he's a globalist. We are the wurld, we is de pepuls... UN rule, they'll be stopping by to pick up your guns.
You're right. I edited the posts. Now... can we get back on track? Christie, Paul, Cruz, Lee... any thoughts?
I never heard of Mike Lee.
Globalist neocons! Justin Amash the US rep from Michigan seems good.
Tom McClintock the US rep from California is also good. He voted for the Amash amendment.
I like him too so far. There are many issues on which he is an unknown because he hasn't had the opportunity to vote on them yet. I stopped listening to what they say long ago and just started watching how they vote.
Here's a site that seems to get a bit more in-depth about politicians stance on issues than 'On The Issues' does...
After hearing so much negative stuff about Rand Paul day after day,it sure is refreshing to hear something positive.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Fred,you have to cut your father a little slack on this one. He's old. What's wrong with the other guy?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Cristie, Bush, Mccain, Graham My list is almost the same,but mine says "ANYBODY named Bush".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Is this true,or internet rumor? Is he the managing partner of the firm or in a position to veto contributions like that? Not doubting you or defending Cruz,just asking for clarification.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I never heard of Mike Lee. I don't think I have,either.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Not sure of the particulars, that's why I'd like answer too. Just found this... Second, the ad asks: “But did you know [Cruz’s] law firm contributed over $200,000 to elect Barack Obama?” Yes, his coworkers did, but Cruz didn’t. Over the years, the candidate himself has donated to such Republicans as Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison, and John Cornyn. But he’s never donated to Obama. Furthermore, the firm itself did not donate that money. The ad cites a compilation by Sunlight Foundation, which finds that in 2008 the firm’s employees donated $189,184 to the Democratic presidential candidate. So far this year, however, the firm’s employees have given Mitt Romney the most money, at $45,668. Obama, meanwhile, has received $12,700. (Cruz is the second-most-popular candidate at $34,650.) In other words, Cruz works with a lot of fat-wallet Democrats. That doesn’t make him one.
I first saw it at On The Issues. OpEd: His law firm donated $200,000 to Obama's campaign. (Apr 2012)
Here's another page showing all political campaign contributions "Includes contributions from the organization’s employees, their family members, and its political action committee." http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/morgan-lewis-bockius/6f83b64c3bf84bfdbfb6f76e7a365231 I see no evidence yet that says Cruz even made any donations to Obama.
I never heard of Mike Lee. I don't think I have,either.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Cristie, Bush, Mccain, Graham What about rubio? He's a definite NO in my book.
Rubio has always been a no. Welcome to the site.
I would add Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker to that list.
What is really dangerous is Christie's appetite.
Cristie, Bush, Mccain, Graham That's a mighty short list.
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
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#2. To: A K A Stone, hondo68 (#1)
Both you and Christie don't like Paul.
#3. To: We The People (#2)
#4. To: We The People (#2)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)
(Edited)
Here are the no's.
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#6. To: hondo68 (#5)
#7. To: Fred Mertz, hondo68, A K A Stone (#6)
Are you an only child? That would explain a lot.
#8. To: We The People (#7)
#9. To: Fred Mertz (#6)
I was one of nine siblings.
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#10. To: hondo68 (#9)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)
#12. To: Fred Mertz (#10)
(Edited)
Thanks for the clarification. I'll bet Weeps is shorter than 5'9".
#13. To: We The People (#12)
Anything else you'd care to know?
#14. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
(Edited)
It was a relevant reply to his comments, crybaby.
#15. To: We The People (#14)
#16. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#13)
(Edited)
Yes, why did you use the Eff word?
#17. To: We The People, Fred Mertz (#14)
(Edited)
It was relevant on a dating site maybe!
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#18. To: Fred Mertz (#17)
Fred misses yukon and the canary family, tater, war, and the ACLU admiral goat herder.
#19. To: We The People, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#11)
Cruz
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#15)
You can use the edit feature to clean up your profanity in reply #12. You're welcome.
#21. To: We The People (#20)
Christie, Paul, Cruz, Lee... any thoughts?
#22. To: We The People (#20)
Christie, Paul, Cruz, Lee... any thoughts?
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#23. To: We The People, *Tom McClintock for President* (#20)
The D&R terror cell hates us because we're free
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#24. To: hondo68 (#22)
(Edited)
Justin Amash the US rep from Michigan seems good.
#25. To: hondo68 (#22)
#26. To: hondo68 (#0)
#27. To: Fred Mertz (#3)
Two people I know in NJ love Christie. Both are Pubbies, one of them is my dad.
#28. To: A K A Stone (#4)
Here are the no's.
#29. To: We The People (#11)
Also, I'd like to know why his law firm gave $200,000.00 to the Obama campaign.
#30. To: Fred Mertz, We The People (#21)
Christie, Paul, Cruz, Lee... any thoughts?
#31. To: sneakypete (#29)
Is he the managing partner of the firm or in a position to veto contributions like that?
#32. To: sneakypete (#29)
Is this true,or internet rumor?
#33. To: All (#32)
#34. To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz (#30)
Christie, Paul, Cruz, Lee... any thoughts?
#35. To: We The People (#31)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#4)
Here are the no's.
#37. To: Fed Up (#36)
What about rubio? He's a definite NO in my book.
#38. To: We The People (#20)
Christie, Paul, Cruz, Lee... any thoughts?
#39. To: hondo68 (#0)
NSA SEARCH TAG: Tea Party, White House, Constitution, Obama, Allahu Akbar, Air Plane, Pressure Cooker, Ruby Ridge, Waco
#40. To: A K A Stone (#4)
Here are the no's.
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