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Title: The Zimmerman Trial Was Ultimately About Going After Guns & Self-Defense Laws
Source: freedomoutpost.com
URL Source: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/t ... lf-defense-laws/#ixzz2ZaRHd9vC
Published: Jul 20, 2013
Author: John Risselada
Post Date: 2013-07-20 08:08:34 by CZ82
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Views: 15414
Comments: 34

The Zimmerman Trial Was Ultimately About Going After Guns & Self-Defense Laws

If you haven’t been able to put two and two together yet, the spectacle we just witnessed as the George Zimmerman trial wasn’t really about George Zimmerman at all. It wasn’t a trial to find real justice and it wasn’t even a trial where George Zimmerman was the accused. It wasn’t about Trayvon Martin or the perceived injustice of a white guy who wasn’t white being racist against a poor, oppressed black kid. Nope, this was a trial where the nation’s self-defense laws were the accused and it was designed explicitly to get the new generation of ding dongs educated in social change and social justice to believe that drastic steps need to be taken to change our nations out dated gun laws. Ding dongs incidentally, that haven’t had an honest discussion about liberty and the constitution since the third grade.

The thing is my friends; there is a reason I have spent so much time focusing on subjects like Alinsky, communism, The Hegelian Dialectic and any other topic the left embraces. Understanding the philosophies of the left makes it very easy to predict their next move. By understanding all of their individual objectives, which in many cases may seem unrelated, are meant to psychologically pacify you it becomes blatantly obvious what their true objectives are. In the case of the George Zimmerman trial it didn’t matter if there was a guilty or not guilty verdict. The only difference it made was the approach they took with their next move. A guilty verdict would only have made it more confident as they would have felt emboldened by the jury’s decision. Having a not guilty verdict just means they need to twist it up a bit and connect the need for gun control to the injustice rendered by a racist court system. They would have gone after the nation’s self-defense laws either way because as Eric Holder once said, “We have to brainwash people into thinking differently about guns.” America, everything the communists are up to is about taking your right to self-defense and your right to the means of self-defense from you.

At the time of this writing, we have news breaking of Jesse Jackson calling for a boycott against Florida, the Republicans caving on Obama’s radical nominations to the EPA and the Department of Labor, and the State of New York gearing up to use more tax dollars to fund a renewed gun control effort. If you haven’t noticed they really don’t care about what you have to say, do they? If the Republicans are caving on the nomination of these questionable characters, what makes you think they won’t cave over some back room deal when it comes to the United Nations Small Arms Treaty? We currently have a government who has been caught red handed lying, cheating, sending weapons to our enemies, spying on American citizens while leaving mosques alone, inciting racial violence while ignoring the fact that black on white crime far surpasses white on black crime. The people we voted for to save us from this have done nothing but cower to the radical threats and cries of racism, as well as fall for the lie of compromise. The communists keep taking and taking and the Republicans keep caving and caving, and our voices are becoming weaker and weaker.

Where’s the line America? The left is kicking our rear ends because they can mobilize a bunch of useful idiots, pay them ten dollars an hour to protest, and they just march right in step, likely without even realizing the heart of the issue they are protesting. You are supposedly a freedom loving American who is intelligent enough to know you are being lied to and many of you didn’t even vote because you didn’t like Mitt Romney. America, we aren’t losing because America has been taken over by radical leftists, we are losing because we have done nothing about it. You don’t need to see this as a call to violence, you just have to realize the persistence and commitment the left has to fundamental change. Folks they really believe in communism and they are willing to do anything for it. They know that your morality will prevent you from adapting such tactics and they despise you for it. It’s impossible to use truth as a weapon when the left believes in moral relativism my friends. There is no truth to these people, the only truths they see are the ones that help them achieve their objective, a totalitarian dictatorship that the sheep have been trained to believe will make everything fair. The George Zimmerman trial was just a show to put the “unjust laws of a racist society” on trial in the court of public opinion. As long as they are able to muster the automatons to their cause our voices will go unheard. Sleep on it America, tomorrow promises to be a rough day.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Nope, this was a trial where the nation’s self-defense laws were the accused and it was designed explicitly to get the new generation of ding dongs educated in social change and social justice to believe that drastic steps need to be taken to change our nations out dated gun laws. Ding dongs incidentally, that haven’t had an honest discussion about liberty and the constitution since the third grade.

Yup,it was a twofer. They played the race card to get the blacks and the white guilt idiots all fired up for political reasons. Namely an attempt to get everybody to back off from questioning Holder and the alleged Justice Dept,as well as to rally the troops to get behind Obummer and his brain farts.

The white guilt idiots are pretty much anti-gun anyway,but there aren't many blacks outside of the beltway who are anti-gun. IMHO,this was an effort to get them on-board the anti-gun train.

Obummer had nothing to lose by doing this,and a lot to gain.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   9:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

Republicans are caving on the nomination of these questionable characters, what makes you think they won’t cave over some back room deal when it comes to the United Nations Small Arms Treaty? We currently have a government who has been caught red handed lying, cheating, sending weapons to our enemies, spying on American citizens while leaving mosques alone, inciting racial violence while ignoring the fact that black on white crime far surpasses white on black crime. The people we voted for to save us from this have done nothing but cower to the radical threats and cries of racism, as well as fall for the lie of compromise. The communists keep taking and taking and the Republicans keep caving and caving, and our voices are becoming weaker and weaker.

And this has been going on for decades, if not centuries.

Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama... no hope, no change. The sheeple love the corrupt D&R crime syndicate. The vast majority of Americans refuse to vote for an America-first patriot. They choose instead to be slaves to the D&R global crime syndicate tyrants.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-07-20   9:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

The Two Parties ARE the Same*

Lets check out that claim.

Obama and the demoshits support Trayvon and want to take our guns.

The Republicans support Zimmerman in large and most don't want to take your guns.

Yeah they are the same. lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-20   9:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

The Republicans support Zimmerman in large and most don't want to take your guns

George W. Universal-Background-Check Bush, John Trigger-Lock McCain, and Mitt Semi-Auto-Ban Romney are just as bad.

Yes, these a real republicans, not RINO's.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-07-20   9:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#4)

Rand Paul isn't Harry Reid.

Ted Cruz isn't Barbara Boxer.

Mike Lee isn't Nancy Pelosi.

If you can't see the difference you need your head examined.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-20   9:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5) (Edited)

Rand Paul isn't Harry Reid.

They're both reconquistas, who love illegal alien invaders. Race pimps too! Identical twins!


Rand Paul Brings Black, Hispanic Leaders Together with RNC In Iowa

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) told Breitbart News he is hosting an event on Friday in Iowa, bringing black and Hispanic Evangelical leaders and Republican Party leaders like Republican National Committee (RNC) chairman Reince Priebus to foster a conversation about how the GOP can win the votes of those communities.

......



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-07-20   9:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#1)

The white guilt idiots are pretty much anti-gun anyway,but there aren't many blacks outside of the beltway who are anti-gun. IMHO,this was an effort to get them on-board the anti-gun train.

I haven't seen any recent gun control polls so can't say if they're succeeding or not... But from what I've seen in other polls only 21% (The typical Dem voter base) think GZ should be charged with a hate crime, so I would have to conclude they are failing.

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-07-20   9:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#2)

The vast majority of Americans refuse to vote for an America-first patriot.

I guess my question is... "Do they even know what one is"??

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-07-20   9:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#0)

The Zimmerman Trial Was Ultimately About Going After Guns & Self-Defense Laws

Naah..... it's just that some people object to the appearance of vigilantes being self appointed judges and executioners.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-07-20   10:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#9)

Naah..... it's just that some people object to the appearance of vigilantes being self appointed judges and executioners.

And who might that be??

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-07-20   11:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82 (#10)

Must you always use double question marks??

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-20   11:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#10)

And who might that be??

It must have been Trayvon Martin. Wasn't he the one who shot Zimmerman?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-07-20   11:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

Must you always use double question marks??

It's the Boris influence!!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-07-20   12:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#3)

The Republicans support Zimmerman in large and most don't want to take your guns.

Maybe,but I think it is more likely that is just the role they have been assigned to play in THIS particular bit of drama.

They are always good about talking a lot of trash early,but when push comes to shove they always find a way to compromise to the point of total surrender.

Remember Trent "Power Sharing" Lott?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   12:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#4)

George W. Universal-Background-Check Bush, John Trigger-Lock McCain, and Mitt Semi-Auto-Ban Romney are just as bad.

And let's not forget Poppy Bush,Father of the original so-called Assault Weapons Ban,the only President in the history of the US to use an executive order to violate the Second Amendment by banning a whole class of guns when he closed the Machine Gun List,Father of the original 10+ shot magazine ban,Father of the federal law banning the importation of military rifles and handguns into the US,including those originally manufactured here and given to other countries,and probably a lot of other stuff I can't remember right now.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   12:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#9)

Naah..... it's just that some people object to the appearance of vigilantes being self appointed judges and executioners.

Who appoints the police,dummy?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   12:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#12)

And who might that be??

It must have been Trayvon Martin. Wasn't he the one who shot Zimmerman?

It wasn't up to him, he was dead.

So what you're saying is the trial was all because a bunch of "over emotional" people (who don't understand law) got together and demanded it?? And now because they didn't like the verdict they're still being "over emotional" and whining about charging him with hate crimes. (You have a very interesting perspective of the crowd you identify with)!!

One thing I've never heard from that crowd is "why" they don't give a schitt if blacks eradicate each other on a daily basis??

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-07-20   12:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: CZ82 (#17)

ming is an angry black woman.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-20   12:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

ming is an angry black woman.

I thought that was Fred??

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-07-20   12:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

ming is an angry black woman.

I thought that was Murron. Way to go, Pebbles. No wonder so few women post here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-20   12:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#19)

Fred is an angry Jimmy Carter voter.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-20   13:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#1)

Obummer had nothing to lose by doing this,and a lot to gain.

Excellent analysis, petey. This commentary and your comments make a lot of sense.

I'm on the fence on this Stand Your Ground law and I know it wasn't part of the trial, but the media is making it a big deal.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-20   13:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#22)

Excellent analysis, petey. This commentary and your comments make a lot of sense.

Fred Mertz-Truth be told, Zimmerman drew his weapon confronted TM, told him to get down on his knees and executed him point blank in the chest. Zimmerman has a history of violence, not to mention child molestation.

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A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-20   13:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#23) (Edited)

Excellent analysis Fred Mertz.

Stone this isn't about the specifics of the event and trial - this is about the big picture and how nuanced politics are being played out. You're welcome.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-20   13:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Fred you demonstrate everyday that you are a racist moron.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-07-20   13:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

You creepy ass cracka!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-20   13:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Fred is an angry Jimmy Carter voter.

That's one sure way to be shunned by EVERYBODY!!

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-07-20   18:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#22)

I'm on the fence on this Stand Your Ground law

You shouldn't be because it literally recognizes the basic human RIGHT of self-defense,and prevents political prosecutions of people who did nothing more than defend themselves.

The FACTS are that if you are not being attacked,you have no "ground" to stand,and that everybody being attacked has the time or even the ability to flee.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   19:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggold (#12)

And who might that be??

It must have been Trayvon Martin. Wasn't he the one who shot Zimmerman?

I have to give you high marks for consistency because you are always wrong.

The ATTACKER was Klingon Boy. The man practicing self-defense had the good fortune and foresight to be armed with a effective weapon to protect him from attackers.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   19:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Fred Mertz-Truth be told, Zimmerman drew his weapon confronted TM, told him to get down on his knees and executed him point blank in the chest.

You really,REALLY have to start refusing offers of free mushrooms from people you barely know.

You HAD to have dismissed every single piece of physical evidence as well as every eyewitness account in order to have came up with that brain fart.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-20   19:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#28)

The FACTS are that if you are not being attacked,you have no "ground" to stand,and that everybody being attacked has the time or even the ability to flee.

I understand the first half of that statement.

I go by common sense - I don't screw with people, especially strangers and they don't screw with me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-20   22:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#31)

The FACTS are that if you are not being attacked,you have no "ground" to stand,and that everybody being attacked has the time or even the ability to flee.

I understand the first half of that statement.

Suppose you are swarmed by 3 or more approaching attackers. If you try to run,you have to turn your back to them and are then totally defenseless. Your ONLY real option is to put your back against a wall so none of them can get behind you.

Plus,the typical thug attackers are under 30,and a lot of the people they attack are over 40 and even older. The famous video of the black thug in his 30's attacking the 80 year old Jewish woman in the elevator that had to use a walker to even walk is a perfect example. First point is she was 80 years old. Second point,she was in a elevator,so where was she going to run to if she were able to run,and the final point is she couldn't even stand or walk without the walker. Despite all this she held on to her purse and tried to fight him off with one hand. He did get away with the purse,but despite punching her in he head several times he was unable to knock her out or knock her down.

Homeboy got away temporarily,but he obviously didn't know that elevators have cameras,and they had some pretty good film clips of him to help the police identify him.

Fred,there are all sorts of situations that may arise that make running away from your attacker either impossible or unwise,and lets not forget that YOU are the innocent party in any attack,and your attacker is the aggressor. If attackers understood that their potential victims would neither surrender their valuables or just stand right there and serve as human punching/kicking bags,there would be far fewer attackers.

I can promise you one thing. Any attacker that comes after me that doesn't somehow manage to sneak up behind me and knock me unconscious before I realize he is there doesn't have much of a future as anything other than being the centerpiece at a funeral. I'm too old and crippled up to be rolling around in the dirt with attackers,especially multiple attackers,so I'm just going to shoot them and be done with it. My philosophy about the whole thing is "If they didn't want to get shot,they shouldn't have attacked me."

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-21   9:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Fred Mertz, All (#28)

The FACTS are that if you are not being attacked,you have no "ground" to stand,and that everybody being attacked has the time or even the ability to flee.

Fred,all,my apologies. The above SHOULD have read..."...and that NOTeverybody being attacked has the time or even the ability to flee.

I hope this clears things up a little.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2013-07-21   10:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#33)

I hope this clears things up a little.

Yes, now it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-07-21   10:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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