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Title: So What If Trayvon Martin Killed Zimmerman (warning extremely graphic images contained in thread)
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Published: Jul 15, 2013
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2013-07-15 00:33:13 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 56
What if the Trayvon Martin had a different ending.
What if Trayvon Martin was going to the store one day. He was going to get some skittles and something to drink. He got some skittles and some Arizona fruit punch. He was walking home and he saw this guy following him. The guy followed him into the dark. Trayvon got scared. Thought a crazy ass cracker was stalking him. So he ran into the dark to hide and watch. The guy was still there walking around. Trayvon fearing for his life attacks Zimmerman and kills him. Zimmerman is found with a gun. If those of us who support the verdict are consistent. Would we have to say Trayvon would have been not guilty as well? I have a bit of mixed feelings on this.
Put it this way. Say Clint Eastwood was going to get something to eat one day. He saw some Mexican looking guy following him. He leads the man following him into the dark then runs and disappears. He then attacks and kills the man following him. Would you cheer?
I know Trayvon isn't Clint Eastwood. Just something to think about.
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#17. To: nolu chan (#12)
When I read stuff like this I've got to wonder whether the liberal ass-hat who wrote it would like a practical demonstration. We'll measure how much blood spurts out of his nose after I punch him, determine what role 'gravity' plays in how it spatters, etc etc. In other news it was raining that night in Sanford and Trayvon Martin was laid out uncovered for almost 30 minutes. Furthermore, as pointed out by the defense expert, Martin's wound seems to have been cleaned up some between the scene and the autopsy table. Couple this with the wet clothes being bagged in plastic and the expectation for useful analysis decreases precipitously.
Hey tough guy tell the folks about your military service. Oh that's right you were too cowardly to serve.
Everyone knows your a cowar,d bred from a long line of cowards. It must be a bitch to live in constant fear of the neighborhood kids.
The photograph of Trayvon Martin fails to show the gusher of blood that descended upon him, whether it was such to be useful for analysis or not. Later, its presence could not even be detected by chemical analysis. The blanket that was used to cover Trayvon's body was not recorded into evidence and the donut munchers purportedly do not know what happened to it. Cleaning up the wounds of Zimmerman is irrelevant. His clothes were photographed while the small lacerations were uncleaned, and the potentially deadly bloody nose was still bloody. They did not find much blood anywhere. The detectives who detected did not detect blood on Trayvon, the concrete, or the ground. They detected droplets of blood on the clothes of Zimmerman. This blood not only degraded beyond providing a DNA match (except for droplets on Zimmerman's clothes matched to Zimmerman), it degraded to invisibility and non-detectability by chemical tests.
Pat Buchanan says Zimmerman's butt was wet and that Trayvons knees were wet.
I suggest watching the testimony of the defense expert Dr. De Maio for information about the proper handling of blood evidence, gun shot wounds, and general standard autopsy techniques. If that doesn't convince you that the absence of evidence of a "gusher of blood" is irrelevant let me know.
It is apparent you cannot explain how no blood got on Trayvon. Moreover,when questioned about Trayvon Martin putting his hands over Zimmerman's mouth and nose with all that blood, in answer to the question of what he would expect to find on Travon Martin's hands, Dr. DiMaio responded "blood." None could be detected. Apparently, the blood that was was choking Zimmerman, and which he was swallowing, turned on and off in some mysterious fashion.
The Way of the Gun If a gunshot occured at close range, the victim might have stippling, or burns on his skin from gunpowder. Shots fired at very close range can also cause internal muzzle staining. When this happens, the victim's blood is sucked back into the gun's muzzle by the cooling of the explosive gases that are released when a short is fired. Testing the gun's muzzle for blood can provide an additional clue to solve a case.
argumentum ad ignorantiam
I thought he said he personally shot down three MIGs from aboard ship.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I think that was the story with the mad dog alias. The yukon/ibluafartsky alias was exposed as not serving.
It is my understanding that who cares = mad dog, at least that much is admitted to by the poster. I don't know why he doesn't use Mad Dog Emeritus - I thought that was a bit funny.
I'd ask BorisY to explain it, but I'd suffer from mental meltdown trying to decipher it.
Typical content free response.
True but I should think minimized in this case as the shot was through two shirts that were a 2-4 inch distance from the point of impact with the body. I do not recall any evidence in the case about it.
Yes, he did. It is consistent with Zimmerman was on his back and Trayvon in a mounted position. Of course, that does not state that the back of Zimmerman's trousers were soaking wet. It would be consistent with having his legs and butt off the ground, and this position maintained through the gunshot and getting up. Perhaps problematic is the Zimmerman claim that he was punched and mounted at the "T" and Trayvon's body was about 40 feet from the "T". This travel has been generally attributed to the altercation not being a static one-position fight, but a fluid battle with changing positions relative to each other, during which movement was made away from the "T".
No just beyond your reasoning ability, as apparently are most of John Locke's observations.
Correct. One alias is a phony decorated war veteran and the other didn't serve and wouldn't be so stupid as to serve. As for Mad Dog.... http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461 [...] I AM A US NAVY VIETNAM vet, I hold three Combat actions two meritorious unit commendations and the rest of the gee dunks which mean s**t to me. My weapons systems splashed three (3) migs, 2 ob Parsons and one ob Horne. I don't owe you or any f**king body an explaination or excuse regarding my VIETNAM service. For an LF thread, see here.
Go munch a donut.
+1
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I ran your fat cunt lifer ass off when you tried to use so called "documentation" from the NAV to "prove" things about my service. You even claimed that my rate, (FTM), never even existed! You never proved or disproved anything you arrogant cunt. Now throw a bunch of cut and paste garbage at me you fat assed parasite lifer CUNT. How much time have you spent underway in the zone cunt? LOL! Being a yeoman in the admiral's office doesn't make you an actual SAILOR cunt. I don't even have tio ask you if you ever crossed the line. No CUNT like you has been initiated into neptune's court, have you WOG? I PISS on you and your big fat lifer lubber WOG ass. As do ALL actual bluewater squids. I bet you never even had any sea duty. Did you WOG?
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Lol..not a fan of John Locke huh? Carry on libtard.
I'm not saying Zimmerman lied. But say you were attacked completely unjustified. You kill the guy. Would you embellish your story to make sure you didn't get in trouble by maybe saying something like he said he was going to kill you?
Pebbles wrote: Are you having an identity crisis Stone, gender confused?
Is that a tutu? I'm not up on women's fashions.
Yes, but it is only enough to look at the statements skeptically. It seemed impossible to prove that Zimmerman's statements about the final second or so were true or false. The prosecution put the statements into evidence and tried to attack the overall credibility of Zimmerman to disregard what may have been self-serving statements. That attempt failed and Zimmerman declined to testify and be cross-examined, as was his constitutional right. The jury could find proper self-defense by finding the prosecution failed to disprove the claim.
I cannot dispute that saying the name of the father of classical liberalism is evidence of what happened when George Zimmerman and Trayvon encountered each other. Bravo! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke
You even claimed that my rate, (FTM), never even existed! I told you explicitly what the FTM rating was. Unlike you, I can link to my non-fiction claim. You lose. I was never a yeoman, nor did I work in any admiral's office. Being in the navy and serving in several ships made me a sailor. Your impossible claims of military decorations made you a Stolen Valor cunt.
Yukon/Mad Dog is mentally ill.
Did your shift at the greyhound restroom end already? Poor puppy! Did those girls, you have hallucinations about, give you a present that permanently affected your Neuro system? I can hardly ban you even if I wanted to. Instead you make a great poster boy for what a lifetime of conservatism does to a person in their old age. You should continue to wait for your trickle down from the Reagan era though. I hear it's due to arrive any day now.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
He's playing a part called Mad Dog.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I was going through the Mad Dog vs the board re: his Navy service in Vietnam...LF and elPee episodes. I may be naive but I tend to believe Mad Dog even if he made some clerical errors. nolu never took him up on the bet in the 2011 episode linked above. I stayed out of that one.
Years ago when he was less mad he did make a convincing case for being stationed at Mare Island just prior to Vietnam. But after a coworker convinced some Army guys at a restaurant of his flying helicopters during Vietnam, after only reading some Tom Clancy novels, it's hard to tell. All they needed was to notice that the guy was much too young to have served then.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
A dozen or more years ago I encountered a retired Navy man many of us knew - he liked his beer too. One evening he was pretty drunk and claimed that he was a Navy SEAL. I did the research online and contacted a SEAL site and found out he was lying. The site veteran wanted his name and phone number so he could do whatever he intended to do to punish him. Edit: I did give him his name and other information about his approx. times in the Navy, but not his phone number. I spread the word locally that he wasn't one, but didn't pursue the matter any further. I looked at it as the booze was talking and bragging. I remain on friendly terms with him today. I think he claimed it only one time, when he was drunk as a monkey.
I may be naive but I tend to believe Mad Dog even if he made some clerical errors. nolu never took him up on the bet in the 2011 episode linked above. I stayed out of that one. I think that's the one where he wanted to bet $10,000 if I would be stupid enough to give him my real world identification on the belief he would pay $10,000. I'm not as dumb as he looks. His claims are impossible as I and sneakypete showed much more than adequately. He and his destroyer weapons system splashed three MIGs. That's a whale of a sea story. Sea stories are supposed to be prefaced with, "Now this ain't no shit." The MIGs were shot down by aircraft which are not part of a destroyer weapons system. He mistook a re-enlistment code for an NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) code. He was not even able to figure out his own rating. Also, the Navy does not call the Marines dogs or doggies. That is slang for Army. The Marines are grunts, jarheads, or seafaring bellhops. Marines call the Navy squids. [md] I'll bet you $10,000 that I am what I claim that I am, you foul little shyster bitch. I will GLADLY provide Stone with a certified copy of my HONORABLE discharge AND my DD214. Whoever LOSES will pay Stone $10,000. within one month of Stone's decision. He claimed he was a decorated Vietnam war veteran who splashed three MIGs with the weapons systems on a destroyer. Anyone can review the thread to see MD getting his ass handed to him by me and sneakypete.
He lowered the bet to Edit: $100 and then $5. Why didn't you take him up on it? If $10K is too rich for you shyster bitch., then lets make it a more affordable amount for a loser such as you shall we? How about a mere $100.00? you can skip your crack or meth for a day can't you PUNK? LOL! Edit: See reply #71 when he lowers it to $5 in your link above. Neither of you would have to reveal your personal information on this forum to satisfy the bet. Just find a trustworthy intermediary and communicate via PM and the USPS. I believe Mad Dog. If he got a few things wrong from his memory of things ~40 years prior I wouldn't crucify him about it. Edit: Why were you such a pussy about it, chan?
I don't bother to give my identification, especially not for insane bets fishing for my identification. You yukons will have to do better than that. Also, I raised the bet to "a million billion dollars." I know for a fact that he cannot provide documentation of his alleged accomplishments such as splashing three MIGs with his weapons systems on a destroyer. Official Navy records make it impossible. You are free to believe such stellar sources as Mad Dog and yukon. btw, a DD-214 only proves that one was in the service, not that one shot down three MIGs. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=461#C461 [...] I AM A US NAVY VIETNAM vet, I hold three Combat actions two meritorious unit commendations and the rest of the gee dunks which mean s**t to me. My weapons systems splashed three (3) migs, 2 ob Parsons and one ob Horne. I don't owe you or any f**king body an explaination or excuse regarding my VIETNAM service. Yee haa!!!
[Vincent Laguardia Gambini] So, the defendant was bleeding profusely up his nose. He had a snootful of blood. Where did the snootful of blood go when Z reversed position and climbed on top of TM? Were the laws of physics suspended in Sanford? Does gravity work differently in Z's gated community?
#18. To: who cares (#15)
A bunch of sniveling pussies pretending to be actual men.
#19. To: who cares (#15)
#20. To: Thunderbird (#17)
In other news it was raining that night in Sanford and Trayvon Martin was laid out uncovered for almost 30 minutes. Furthermore, as pointed out by the defense expert, Martin's wound seems to have been cleaned up some between the scene and the autopsy table. Couple this with the wet clothes being bagged in plastic and the expectation for useful analysis decreases precipitously.
#21. To: nolu chan (#20)
#22. To: nolu chan (#20)
#23. To: Thunderbird (#22)
If that doesn't convince you that the absence of evidence of a "gusher of blood" is irrelevant let me know.
#24. To: nolu chan (#23)
#25. To: nolu chan (#23)
It is apparent you cannot explain how no blood got on Trayvon.
#26. To: calcon (#18)
Hey tough guy tell the folks about your military service. Oh that's right you were too cowardly to serve.
#27. To: mininggold (#26)
I thought he said he personally shot down three MIGs from aboard ship.
#28. To: calcon (#27)
#29. To: calcon (#27)
#30. To: Thunderbird (#25)
argumentum ad ignorantiam
#31. To: A K A Stone (#24)
Shots fired at very close range can also cause internal muzzle staining.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#21)
Pat Buchanan says Zimmerman's butt was wet and that Trayvons knees were wet.
[Buchanan] Why was the back of Zimmerman's jacket soaking wet, and the back of Trayvon's dry, if Trayvon was on the bottom? Why were the knees of Trayvon's pants wet, if he was on the bottom?
#33. To: nolu chan (#30)
Typical content free response
#34. To: calcon, mininggold (#27)
I think that was the story with the mad dog alias. The yukon/ibluafartsky alias was exposed as not serving.
#461. To: vrmc 0915, sneakypete, seen2much, Travis McGee, ALL (#450)
#35. To: Thunderbird (#33)
No just beyond your reasoning ability, as apparently are most of John Locke's observations.
#36. To: who cares (#14)
#37. To: mininggold (#26)
#38. To: calbFAGb (#18)
Hey tough guy tell the folks about your military service. Oh that's right you were too cowardly to serve.
#39. To: calbFAGb (#19)
#40. To: nolu chan (#34)
#41. To: nolu chan (#35)
Go munch a donut.
#42. To: nolu chan (#32)
Perhaps problematic is the Zimmerman claim
#43. To: Pebbles, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#42)
(Edited)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#44. To: hondo68 (#43)
#45. To: Pebbles (#42)
I'm not saying Zimmerman lied. But say you were attacked completely unjustified. You kill the guy. Would you embellish your story to make sure you didn't get in trouble by maybe saying something like he said he was going to kill you?
#46. To: Thunderbird (#41)
Lol..not a fan of John Locke huh?
John Locke (29 August 1632 – 28 October 1704), widely known as the Father of Classical Liberalism, was an English philosopher and physician regarded as one of the most influential of Enlightenment thinkers. Considered one of the first of the British empiricists, following the tradition of Francis Bacon, he is equally important to social contract theory. His work had a great impact upon the development of epistemology and political philosophy.
#47. To: Mad Dog (#40)
I bet you never even had any sea duty.
Being a yeoman in the admiral's office doesn't make you an actual SAILOR cunt.
#48. To: nolu chan, Mad Dog (#47)
#49. To: Mad Dog (#37)
(Edited)
You "thought" wrong cunt.
#50. To: Pebbles, Mad Dog (#48)
Yukon/Mad Dog is mentally ill.
#51. To: mininggold (#50)
#52. To: Fred Mertz (#51)
(Edited)
I may be naive but I tend to believe Mad Dog even if he made some clerical errors.
#53. To: mininggold (#52)
(Edited)
#54. To: Fred Mertz, mininggold, sneakypete (#51)
I was going through the Mad Dog vs the board re: his Navy service in Vietnam...LF and elPee episodes.
#55. To: nolu chan, Mad Dog (#54)
(Edited)
BUT you don't have the BALLS to bet $10K on it do you PUNK?
#56. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete, mininggold (#55)
He lowered the bet to Edit: $100 and then $5. Why didn't you take him up on it?
#461. To: vrmc 0915, sneakypete, seen2much, Travis McGee, ALL (#450)
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