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Title: Freeper: Obama's protecting the Boston murderers ... they remind him of his good friend - neighbor - political rabbi --- Bill Ayers
Source: freerepublic.com
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3012446/posts#5
Published: Apr 26, 2013
Author: nj patriot
Post Date: 2013-04-26 14:34:57 by BorisY
Keywords: sleeper cell, sleeper cell, sleeper cell
Views: 34475
Comments: 75

To: Hotlanta Mike

Of course Obama is protecting the Boston murderers, they remind him of his good friend, neighbor and political rabbi Bill Ayers. I don’t see a difference between the two.

5 posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:56:20 PM by nj patriot (How is that hope and change working out?)


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#1. To: BorisY (#0)

They're finally going to arrest the FBI/CIA?

Fuckin' A!!!

Keywords: mass destruction, mass destruction, mass destruction

From JFK to the Boston Bombing....;}

Now how are they going to make that Landing Gear disappear?

Calling the FBI. FBI to the White Courtesy Phone, Please.

:twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   9:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

The protruding TOBI tubes would lift the assembly off the surface on which it was photographed. No: The Murray Street TOBI is, most definitely, not the one shown directly above.

Therefore, the recovered TOBI was not part of a JT9D-7R4D compressor.

Therefore, the recovered compressor did not come from a JT9D-7R4D engine.

Therefore, the engine on the vehicle which struck the South Tower was not a JT9D-7R4D.

Since Flight 175 was a 767 with JT9D-7R4D engines, the vehicle which struck the South Tower was not Flight 175.

Stop. Do not pass Go.

The jurisdiction called United States ceased to exist at 9:03 AM, September 11, 2001, the moment that compressor slammed into Murray Street.

As a result, no United States law touches any present or future member of United Sovereigns of America. How could the laws of a non-existent jurisdiction even exist, much less touch anyone?

Hmm?

So NOW we have the LAnding Gear of the Plane that hit the South Tower.

We gonna send that to the Landfill as well?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   9:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

The only possible conclusion "After Attack, Suspects Returned to Routines, Raising No Suspicions"

"Boston bombers’ uncle married daughter of top CIA official"

Read these two articles. How do you deal with the amazing 'coincidences' in the life of the uncle? How do you deal with the combination of no attempt at disguise, suspects leading perfectly normal lives the day after, and then a crazed frenzy at escape (not to mention the amazing series of outright lies told by American authorities)? You just can't. If you have an IQ over 75, you can only reach one possible conclusion - false flag.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   9:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-27   9:52:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

AND THANK YOU.

But WHERE's THE African woman?

;}

And that Blood is just gushing out, eh?

I'll be back on this one.

LMFAO

Ruslan Tsarni married the daughter of former top CIA official Graham Fuller, who spent 20 years as operations officer in Turkey, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Hong Kong. In 1982 Fuller was appointed the National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asia at the CIA, and in 1986, under Ronald Reagan, he became the Vice-Chairman of the National Intelligence Council, with overall responsibility for national level strategic forecasting.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

cowboy

[As many have said, where's the trail of blood? And how can this guy possibly still be conscious, never mind alive? - Zen]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:16:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

If you loose both your legs from explosive trauma half your blood is gone in one minute via the femoral arteries, youre dead after two. Bleeding out is worse with blunt force trauma (like shrapnel) because flesh is torn rather than cut, exposing more arterial and vascular tissue. The human body holds 5 to 6 LITERS of blood. If that really happened you would see blood EVERYWHERE, the guy would be drenched in it. You would also see what’s called arterial spurtting from the injury. Most likely he would vomit after turning ghost white from shock, then turning delirious or passing out. As for the “tourniquet”…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

And an Aside:

From personal experience, I've had TWO bleed outs from a Stomach Ulcer.

The FIRST was a Vein. Not so bad the Doc gave me a 50/50 chance of dying from it.

The SECOND was an Artery. After the First Puke, and on my way to wake up the wife, I lost consciousness.

Another 45 min and I would've stroked......

And THAT just from ONE artery TEAR, INTERNAL.

STAGED.

More Coming.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

Its not even tied off, its suspended via gravity, which would literally do nothing to an arterial sever. There’s no pressure applied. There’s no knott with a turn stick for leverage. You can clearly see a gap in the nonexistent wrap job on his left inner thigh (left anterior proximal for you experts) His hands have no blood on them. There’s no blood on the ground. The color in his hands and lips shows good circulation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

This is an actor. This is staged. How did they pull it off though? I can show you.

Here in frame six on the left we see the the man with a hood setting up the fake leg wound prosthetics. His attention and hands are right there. The woman is acting as a shield covering what’s happening. Frame 6

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:24:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Here in frame eight the prosthetics are in place. Amidst all this chaos seconds after the explosion the hooded man takes the time to put on his sunglasses which is a signal. Frame 8

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:25:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Here in frame nine with sunglasses now on the hooded man and the woman make eye contact, signal received. Frame 9

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:26:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

In frame eleven after recieving the go signal the woman makes an open hand gesture the direction both of them are looking, signaling the staged injuries are in place for cameras. The prone amputee raises his left prosthetic injury into the air over the woman’s shoulder. No blood is present. The bone is dry, no blood on his leg above the knee, no blood on the woman, no arterial spurt, nothing. Frame 11

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:29:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

Here in frame fourteen the woman turns her head right but is still holding up that open palm signal with her left hand. The hooded man again busies himself pouring fake blood on the pavement behind the woman. The amputee has both fake injuries in the air now. There is still no blood on his legs, his skin above the injury is clean and dry. Frame 14

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:31:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

5WEw6mm

Frame twenty, the fake blood and prosthetics are in place. The amputee gives an open hand gesture along with the woman to bring the cameras in. We’re now twenty frames in and still not a drop of fresh blood from a double leg amputation. His legs are dry, the woman is dry and unscathed. Both are making the same hand gesture. Frame 20

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:33:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

Look to the left and see the cowboy hat man standing there doing nothing. This is the same man who will pretend to hold the tourniquet of the fake amputee actor later on. Look to center of the photo and you will see the african woman moving herself away from the amputee actor since her shielding him from camera’s job is over. Next to her is a woman with red hair leaning on her elbow.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:38:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone, All (#16)

And NOW it gets good.....8D

Missing Legman

Compare this now with another photo taken seconds later. Putting them side by side is very helpful.

The man with the hood and sunglasses, who was just sitting up looking fine and healthy after fixing up the amputee actor’s prosthetics, is now on his back being evaluated by two people. Notice the rips in his jeans have no sign of blood or injury on the skin. The woman with red hair however is in the exact same pose as a minute ago. Meanwhile the double amputee actor is completely ignored by everyone when he is clearly in the most dire need of attention. There is a small amount of fake blood around him where the african lady shielding him used to be, she has dissappeared. What happened to her? Compare this photo with the first in my post.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:42:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

The african woman who was sitting up, shielding the hooded man and amputee actor’s prosthetic rigging, giving hand signals, looking left and right, having no visible blood or injuries, is now covered in blood and strapped into a spine board stretcher.

In a real medical scenario the amuptee would receive immediate treatment or die from bleed out. The fact this actor woman is removed from the scene via stretcher while the double amputee is left on the ground is ludacris. He would be dead from blood lose before they could even begin spinal assessment procedures involved in moving a patient to a stretched. Not to mention his blood lose would be over five liters, enough to cover the entire scene around these people in a thick puddle.

AND the African Woman gets a Spine Board Stretcher.....

Your VERY Valuable DOUBLE AMUTEE?

Wheelchair's ALL we Got, Dude....LMFAO.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:46:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18)

At the time of their marriage, Ruslan Tsarni was known as Ruslan Tsarnaev, the same last name as his nephews Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the alleged bombers.

It is unknown when he changed his last name to Tsarni.

What is known is that sometime in the early 1990’s, while she was a graduate student in North Carolina, and he was in law school at Duke, Ruslan Tsarnaev met and married Samantha Ankara Fuller, the daughter of Graham and Prudence Fuller of Rockville Maryland. Her middle name suggests a reference to one of her father’s CIA postings.

The couple divorced sometime before 2004.

Today Ms. Fuller lives abroad, and is a director of several companies pursuing strategies to increase energy production from clean-burning and renewable resources.

On a more ominous note, Graham Fuller was listed as one of the American Deep State rogues on Sibel Edmonds' State Secrets Privilege Gallery,. Edmonds explained it featured subjects of FBI investigations she became aware of during her time as an FBI translator.

Criminal activities were being protected by claims of State Secrets, she asserted. After Attorney General John Ashcroft went all the way to the Supreme Court to muzzle her under a little-used doctrine of State Secrets, she put up twenty-one photos, with no names.

One of them was Graham Fuller. "Congress of Chechen International" c/o Graham Fuller

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   12:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

These pics remind me of when we had county wide disaster drills here and we were trying to add some realism to the event. We would stage dangling arms broken or out of sockets, guts hanging out, etc. but never a bloody amputee being paraded in a wheelchair after the "disaster" took place. We would have been written up over that stunt.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-04-27   13:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#18)

Your VERY Valuable DOUBLE AMUTEE?

Wheelchair's ALL we Got, Dude....LMFAO.....8D

Whoever triaged this area needs to have their license revoked.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-04-27   13:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#21)

Whoever triaged this area needs to have their license revoked.

MOSSAD.....and I'm All for it.....;}

"For an Armenian to convert to Islam is like finding a unicorn in a field," Nerses Zurabyan, 32, an information technology director who lives in nearby Cambridge told USA Today.

The report reveals that the bomber’s Uncle, made famous for his outspoken condemnation of his nephew’s which aired repeatedly on international news networks, is a well-connected oil executive who at one point worked for a Halliburton shell company used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh State.

Ruslon Tsarni was implicated in an investigation involving the laundering and theft of $6 billion. But everybody loves Uncle Ruslon. At least most of America’s mainstream media does.

There has, to date, been no speculation at all about whether an uncle of the men suspected of the bombing who had been involved in international intrigue at the hightest levels, and who married the daughter of a top CIA official, might warrant a closer look.

It’s enough, isn’t it, to turn even reasonably rational adults into—gasp!—conspiracy theorists.

http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/26/boston-bombers-uncle-married-daughter-of-top-cia-official/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   13:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#20)

And there's a vid of the Hooded Man throwing Powder......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   13:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#21)

“News,” someone once wrote, “is selection. And selection is always based on an ideology and agenda, which is something to remember next time you watch, listen or read the ‘news.’”

Too true.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   13:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

The report reveals that the bomber’s Uncle, made famous for his outspoken condemnation of his nephew’s which aired repeatedly on international news networks, is a well-connected oil executive who at one point worked for a Halliburton shell company used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh State.

I just KNEW the big Dick would be up to his armpits in this.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-04-27   13:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#24)

Note the plastic bag now in front of the brown bag woman.

. Note that the brown bag lady has left, however, her bag can now be seen on top of the white bag.

Again, ignore the circles and the pic on the right.

The brown bag lady is still gone, but the bags are still there.

Boston Bombing: The Official Story Proves Dzhokhar Is Innocent – a Photo Essay

See the third picture down. This is the pic the government says shows the Chechneyan dropping a bomb at the site in his backpack. Note the location of the supposed drop, approximately 3 feet behind the fence and next to the tree. Also, in this pic, we see Martin Richard, one of the deceased, circled in blue. To Martin’s right is his mother Denise. To his left, is his sister Jane. To Janes left is brother Henry. Behind Jane, is their father, Bill. Bill and Henry were not hurt in the blast. Denise suffered a brain injury and Jane lost a leg.

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...r-boston-marathon-blasts?

It was reported that this family just came from getting ice cream when the blast occurred, so this pic is very close to detonation time. Note that four of them are close to the fence and are leaning forward. Bill is backward a bit. The younger two kids are sticking their legs between the fence. Henry is merely leaning on it and likely stood up straight before the blast. The younger kids with their more entrenched positions, would likely have remained in such positions at detonation time. Denise is farthest to the right. Lu Lingzi and her friend are just to the right of this pic and not seen. Note Bill’s close proximity to the tree, where the government says the bomb was located. Due to their positioning in this photo, it is most likely that the shrapnel flew from a right to left direction along the front of the fence line. Note Jane’s protruding leg.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   13:45:55 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone, All (#26)

Boston Bombing: The Official Story Proves Dzhokhar Is Innocent – a Photo Essay

See the third picture down. This is the pic the government says shows the Chechneyan dropping a bomb at the site in his backpack. Note the location of the supposed drop, approximately 3 feet behind the fence and next to the tree. Also, in this pic, we see Martin Richard, one of the deceased, circled in blue. To Martin’s right is his mother Denise. To his left, is his sister Jane. To Janes left is brother Henry. Behind Jane, is their father, Bill. Bill and Henry were not hurt in the blast. Denise suffered a brain injury and Jane lost a leg.

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...r-boston-marathon-blasts?

It was reported that this family just came from getting ice cream when the blast occurred, so this pic is very close to detonation time. Note that four of them are close to the fence and are leaning forward. Bill is backward a bit. The younger two kids are sticking their legs between the fence. Henry is merely leaning on it and likely stood up straight before the blast. The younger kids with their more entrenched positions, would likely have remained in such positions at detonation time. Denise is farthest to the right. Lu Lingzi and her friend are just to the right of this pic and not seen. Note Bill’s close proximity to the tree, where the government says the bomb was located. Due to their positioning in this photo, it is most likely that the shrapnel flew from a right to left direction along the front of the fence line. Note Jane’s protruding leg.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   13:58:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#27)

This is the most important pic. Note that there is no damage to the right of the trash bin. If the bomb was next to the tree, there would be widespread damage to the area to the right of the trash bin (just behind the fence lined up directly with next to the tree) Also, note that it appears there are no injured between the trash bin and the tree although this is difficult to say as it is blurred in that area. It appears that the plastic bag and brown bag are gone. Note that the fence to the left has fallen on some victims. A blast from the right and behind it (tree area) would likely have spun that piece of fence in a clockwise direction or bent it around the sign post. Neither happened. It fell in the opposite direction. The middle piece of fencing is missing and was likely removed when the first responders appeared (Thrown in the street?). Two to three bars of the piece of the fence near the trash bin remain.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   14:00:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#28)

Note that in the second pic above, the plastic bag sits between bars 2-6 of the fence that sit to the left of the trash bin. The rest of this fence piece obviously took quite a blast. It appears that the tree is not damaged. Note that there are powder burns on the trash bin. These occur only very close to an explosion. At site one, deceased victim Krystle Campbell had such black marks on her low back indicating her proximity to the blast.

Note that the powder burns only exist at THE FRONT HALF OF THE LEFT SIDE (Look very closely) of the trash bin. Thus, the blast would have come from very near the trash bin and in front of it to the left. Lu’s fatal wound was to her neck indicating an upward blast. It was of such a sever force that it killed her instantly. Thus, she very likely could have been leaning over the bomb when it detonated.

It is likely that when brown bag lady left the scene, Lu and her friend would have moved up into brown bag lady’s previous spot noted in the pictrues above. In the prior pic of Lu and her firend, her friend stood to the back and to the right of Lu. Such a position at detonation time is consistent with the injuries to Lu’s friend, which were only to her left abdomen. Lu’s body would have blocked her friend from the blast if the blast occurred in front of Lu/slightly to her right side.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   14:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: BorisY (#0)

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=69666

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-27   14:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BorisY (#0)

Obama's protecting the Boston murderers...

How is President Obama protecting the Boston murderers?

Please be specific.

Jameson  posted on  2013-04-27   18:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jameson (#31)

Comment by freebird

April 27, 2013 @ 8:43 am

Obama definitely has an agenda in this regard. The PC police and the left wing fringe have a grip on the WH.

It stems from the ... elite universities where terrorists are welcome as professors - teach their warped ideology at the same time --- demonizing those who challenge their views.

Obama is unfit for the office. Many have said this from the very beginning – a young, attractive, smooth talking (from a teleprompter)empty suit with zero experience and no track record of successfully running anything. His record is the poorest record of anyone who got reelected POTUS. Other than ramming Obamacare down everyone’s throats with a batch of lies and 2,000 pages of what nobody understood, he’s done nothing. His only claim is getting OBL and that was on the backs of the intel community’s work that went back to Bush. He’s a disgrace to the office.

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2013/04/27/obamas-political-correctness-questioned/? subscriber=1

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2013-04-27   19:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BorisY (#32)

How is President Obama protecting the Boston murderers?

Please be specific.

I guess you have no answer.

I understand.

Jameson  posted on  2013-04-28   7:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jameson (#31)

How is President Obama protecting the Boston murderers?

By meeting with the Saudis and acquiescing to their demands for special treatment for one of the prime suspects, who was captured fleeing from the bomb site.

By having the AG override the national security exemption to Miranda for the other prime suspect, who promptly stopped providing information about the case.

Do you have any other stupid questions you'd like to ask?

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   8:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Thunderbird (#34)

By having the AG override the national security exemption to Miranda

There is no such thing as exceptions to the constitution. You're talking like a liberal now.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-28   8:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#25)

I just KNEW the big Dick would be up to his armpits in this.

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can rest assured that Ruslan got ONLY a mere fraction of that $6 Billion Deal.......

8D

O and BTW. MISHA, first uttered by Uncle Ruslan, has now been Cleared of any and ALL Sundry Terror Ties.

Nothing to see here....Move along......;}

According to the Russian daily Itzvestia of 24 April 2013, Tamerlane Tsarnaev attended seminars run by the Caucasus Fund of Georgia (Кавказский фонд) between January and July 2012..

This association is a branch of the Jamestown Foundation, an information agency created by the CIA.

The Caucusus Fund has organized several seminars for young Caucasians with the aim of "destabilizing Russia."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-28   9:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

IT is impossible for Dzorkhov to walk behind the tree and drop the backpack at the girl's feet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-28   10:05:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All (#37)

The Fence was BLOWN INTO the Tree.

The Marks/Indentations would be there. Clearly showing the Bomb was Streetside.

The TREE HAD to be cut down...and sent to the Landfill....

Just like the Murray &Church St Jet Engine...

And Just Like the Landing Gear just found at 50 Murray St.

Get it to the Landfill ASAP.....MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...:twisted:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-28   10:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)

There is no such thing as exceptions to the constitution. You're talking like a liberal now.

The public safety exception to Miranda has been recognized by the USSC since about 1980.

Your entitled to disagree with the ruling, but to suggest the exception is not Constitutional isn't accurate.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   11:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Thunderbird (#39)

The public safety exception to Miranda has been recognized by the USSC since about 1980.

Usurpers. No such thing. Amending the constitution take what? A constitutional amendment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-28   11:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#40)

Get a grip Stone..Miranda itself was a liberal's wet dream. Carving out a public safety exception is just balancing the scales a little bit.

-btw the very notion that these foreign punks aren't treated like the enemy combatants they truly are and you're ok with that is disquieting.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   11:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Thunderbird (#41) (Edited)

btw the very notion that these foreign punks aren't treated like the enemy combatants they truly are and you're ok with that is disquieting.

So pray tell..... what enemy country do they work for that we have declared war on?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-04-28   12:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Thunderbird (#41)

Carving out

I'm not for carving out any portion of the constitution. You change the constitution by amending it.

The fourth amendment isn't an option to be carved up. Neither is the fourth. Or any for that matter.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-28   13:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#43)

I'm not for carving out any portion of the constitution.

The same court that mandates police give Miranda warnings to suspects also allows for public safety exceptions.

The fact remains that under this jihadist administration terrorists rights come before the public safety, and you seem ok with that.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   14:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Thunderbird (#44)

The same court that mandates police give Miranda warnings to suspects also allows for public safety exceptions.

Miranda is consistent with the constitution.

Forcing someone to speak violates their 1st 4ht and 5th amendment rights.

Holding someone without charging them violate their habeus corpus rights.

Naming someone an enemy combatant violates their right to a trial by jury.

Anyone in the government that violates these rights should be tried for treason and beheaded.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-28   14:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Thunderbird (#34)

By meeting with the Saudis and acquiescing to their demands for special treatment for one of the prime suspects, who was captured fleeing from the bomb site.

Please cite your source - exactly when has Obama met with "the saudis" and specifically what were their "demands"?

What does this "prime suspect" have to do with the bombing? Please provide proof.

"By having the AG override the national security exemption to Miranda"

What a ridiculous claim....simply untrue.

Jameson  posted on  2013-04-28   16:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Thunderbird (#34)

By meeting with the Saudis and acquiescing to their demands for special treatment for one of the prime suspects,

HA HA HA!!

This stupidity is from Alex Jones isn't it???

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

You might as well be citing The Onion as your source.

Jameson  posted on  2013-04-28   16:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jameson (#46)

Jan. 14, 2013: President Obama meets in the Oval Office with Saudi minister of interior.

Jan. 16: Homeland Security Director Janet Napolitano signs "arrangement" with Saudi minister bestowing "trusted traveler" status on Saudi student visitors, shortcutting normal security screening procedures.

April 15: Saudi college student Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi is seen near the Boston marathon finish line with two other Saudis. He's tackled after fleeing the scene of one of the bombings. Authorities question him.

April 15: FBI agents search Alharbi's Boston apartment, leave with bags of evidence. He's described as a "person of interest" in attacks.

April 16: Secretary of State John Kerry secretly meets with the Saudi foreign minister, locking out reporters who initially were told the meeting would be open.

April 16: Saudi ambassador phones several papers and insists neither Alharbi nor any Saudi nationals are involved in the bombings. Saudi officials visit the well-connected Alharbi at a Boston hospital.

April 17: Officials clear Alharbi, who's reportedly related to al-Qaida Gitmo detainees, as a person of interest.

April 17: FBI ID from photos and videos two Mideast-looking men with bags scouting scene of bombings and circulate them among law enforcement. AP, CNN and even Boston Globe report one arrest has been made. CNN describes suspect as "dark-skinned male." Media swarm Boston courthouse for arraignment.

April 17: Obama has sudden unscheduled meeting with the Saudi foreign minister at White House.

April 17: Justice Dept. scolds CNN for arrest report. FBI cancels press conference. Courthouse bomb scare.

April 17: Terror expert Steve Emerson reports ICE has been ordered to "deport" Alharbi for "national security" reasons, out of reach of FBI questioning.

April 18: Napolitano denies Alharbi will be deported.

April 19: Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is captured

April 22: Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is given Miranda warning and stops talking to investigators.

April 22: Reports that Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi was flagged under section 212 (3b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, the part of the federal statute that deals with aliens involved in terrorism emerge.

April 23: Napolitano acknowledges Alharbi was "briefly" on a terrorist watch list.

April 25: Univeristy of Findley (Ohio) confirms that although Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi was scheduled to attend school there in 2012, he never registered or showed up.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   20:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jameson (#47)

This stupidity is from Alex Jones isn't it???

The only "stupidity" I can see around here is your own.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   20:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#45)

Miranda is consistent with the constitution.

Miranda was not passed as a Constitutional amendment, so according to you it doesn't count.

The public safety exemption is also consistent with the Constitution, see the Quarles case for more information.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-28   20:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#42)

So pray tell..... what enemy country do they work for that we have declared war on?

They were terrorists working for Al Quaeda which is sufficient reason to treat them as enemy combatants. This connection to organized terror is exactly what the Obama administration is desperately trying to keep the American public from finding out.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-29   9:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Thunderbird (#51)

They were terrorists working for Al Quaeda which is sufficient reason to treat them as enemy combatants. This connection to organized terror is exactly what the Obama administration is desperately trying to keep the American public from finding out.

And if they find there's a connection to the Big Dick can we waterboard him too?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-04-29   9:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Thunderbird (#39)

Don't say a word with out legal representation.

Ask for a lawyer.

Anything signed will have a dated/initialized/statement that this signature was given under duress.....

Torture even.......

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-29   10:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Thunderbird (#48)

By meeting with the Saudis and acquiescing to their demands for special treatment for one of the prime suspects,

Please.

CITE YOUR SOURCE.

Jameson  posted on  2013-04-29   23:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Thunderbird (#49)

The only "stupidity" I can see around here is your own.

heh heh heh...

you are such a smart and clever debater.....

Jameson  posted on  2013-04-29   23:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mcgowanjm (#38)

The Fence was BLOWN INTO the Tree.

The Marks/Indentations would be there. Clearly showing the Bomb was Streetside.

But what about the railing wrapped around the mailbox, that would indicate the "bomb" (or whatever it was) is located behind the railing...

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-04-30   5:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: CZ82 (#56)

The Marks/Indentations would be there. Clearly showing the Bomb was Streetside.

But what about the railing wrapped around the mailbox, that would indicate the "bomb" (or whatever it was) is located behind the railing...

I did not see that.

Could you show me the pic?

Thanx.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-30   8:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jameson (#54)

Please CITE YOUR SOURCE.

Really?

Are you foolish enough to think Obama invited AP and Reuters to join his meeting with the Saudi FM?

You must have your head buried in the sand not to see the obvious cause and effect outlined in the chronology above.

It was all just a big coincidence, now go back to watching DWTS.

Thunderbird  posted on  2013-04-30   9:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Thunderbird (#58)

Really?

Are you foolish enough to think Obama invited AP and Reuters to join his meeting with the Saudi FM?

You must have your head buried in the sand not to see the obvious cause and effect outlined in the chronology above.

It was all just a big coincidence, now go back to watching DWTS.

Damn, ain't we privileged to have a poster here like you with top level inside sources.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-04-30   16:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

I did not see that.

Could you show me the pic?

Thanx.

Your post #37...

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

CZ82  posted on  2013-04-30   16:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: CZ82 (#60)

That pic shows the fence pushed into the Mailbox.

Exactly what a Bomb Streetside would be expected to do.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-01   9:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: All (#61)

Apparently uninjured woman carried while DOUBLE AMPUTEE MAn waits for wheelchair.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-01   11:16:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: All (#62)

The Great thing here is that LF is considered to be a Right Wing Haven for Abortion, Gun Rights and Homophobes.

Who would think to look for anything else?

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   8:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Thunderbird (#58)

Really?

Are you foolish enough to think Obama invited AP and Reuters to join his meeting with the Saudi FM?

Yes, really cite your source....

Perhaps you're just reporting what someone else has made up......

It certainly appears so.......

Your argument fails, completely.

Jameson  posted on  2013-05-02   12:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jameson (#64)

It never occurs to the “journalists” who write for the MSM that the evidence could point to someone other than the Feds’ patsies as the real culprits. The fact that we have been lied to repeatedly by the Feds since this event took place never factors into their equation. The official affidavit doesn’t match the secret witness’ statement in fact it completely contradicts it. The claim that they had “chilling” video of one of the brothers dropping his bag at the scene of one of the bombing has never been backed up by an actual video and it never will because it doesn’t exist.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#65)

The official affidavit doesn’t match the secret witness’ statement in fact it completely contradicts it. The claim that they had “chilling” video of one of the brothers dropping his bag at the scene of one of the bombing has never been backed up by an actual video and it never will because it doesn’t exist. The fact that they pretended not to know who these two were when they had been in contact with them for years. The fact that they claim to have video of the brothers calmly watching the carnage and then slowly walking away is directly contradicted by 1. the physical evidence of a photo of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev apparently running for his life, along with everyone else on the scene, as soon as the second bomb went off and 2. they have never produced so much as a still photo supporting their claims. That is to say nothing of their uncle’s connections to the CIA or the fact that the FBI ran around deleting witness’ pictures of the crime scene while they were supposedly looking for suspects.

One lie after another and the MSM continues to serve as the propaganda arm of the Federal government, just as they have done for decades in this country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: All (#66)

The fact that they claim to have video of the brothers calmly watching the carnage and then slowly walking away is directly contradicted by 1. the physical evidence of a photo of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev apparently running for his life, along with everyone else on the scene, as soon as the second bomb went off

And it gets REALLY surreal when that SAME pic of Dzhokhar can not be USED by the FBI

ALSO

because DZHOKHAR is STILL carrying his backpack in the

NON photoshopped pic.

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: All (#67)

Think about it:

The FBI had to photoshop a pic, even though the PIC ITSELF discredits their story.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#68)

THIS ONE

http://www.wcvb.com/image/view/-/19820380/highRes/3/-/maxh/480/maxw/640/-/xh2r2oz/-/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-running--from-bombing.jpg

Note the extended arm hand pulling something that's non existent and the Pull on the Jacket itself......;}

They haven't learned much since the Oswald Head Photoshop......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All (#68)

THIS ONE

Note the extended arm hand pulling something that's non existent and the Pull on the Jacket itself......;}

They haven't learned much since the Oswald Head Photoshop......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:53:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: All (#70)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   12:59:51 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: All (#71)

Why has the sun moved so much?

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   13:00:58 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: All (#72) (Edited)

Note there is No SPACE for Dzhokhar to walk parallel to the Fence, drop the bag at the Bottom of the Fence, and walk IN FRONT of the tree. Why they had to cut the Tree down. Same reason they had to cut the tree down at Dealey Plaza....;} The Damn tree's in the way of their story..... MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-02   13:07:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: All (#73)

Reported security incidents #1: A U.S. military aircraft is missing after taking off Friday in Kyrgyzstan, a Kyrgyz official said. The plane is from the Manas airport in Kyrgyzstan, according to Kylychbek Dosumbetov, the nation's Transport Ministry press secretary. A section of the airport is a U.S. air base that serves as a supply hub for forces in Afghanistan.

A U.S. military transport plane (refueling) carrying fuel crashed on Friday near the border between Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, an official from Kyrgyzstan's Emergencies Minister said. "(The plane) caught fire in the air and crashed," the official said. The plane disappeared from radar near the Kyrgyz village of Chaldovar, 90 km (55 miles) from the U.S. airforce base at Manas in Kyrgyzstan, which U.S. forces maintain for operations in Afghanistan.

rt.com/news/us-plane-crash-afghanistan-649/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-03   8:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: All (#61)

How are those guns workin' for ya?

8D

Posted on May 2, 2013 by willyloman

from Tech Dirt

In light of the recent Boston bombing, NYPD Police Chief Ray Kelly is now restructuring some sort of nonexistent deal with New Yorkers, issuing a clawback on their civil liberties. According to Kelly, the Boston Marathon bombing means privacy has been “taken off the table.”

“I’m a major proponent of cameras,” Kelly said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. “I think the privacy issue has really been taken off the table.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-05-03   9:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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