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Title: Gun magazine maker who threatened to leave CO over magazine limits, now making smaller magazines
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URL Source: http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gear ... m3-ms4-sling-and-mag-limiters/
Published: Apr 9, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-04-09 15:04:54 by Ferret Mike
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Magpul releases 10 round PMAG M3, MS4 sling and mag Limiters The PMAG 10 AR/M4 GEN M3 5.56×45 NATO magazine was designed to be your friend when working in the prone. Its shorter length means you can get lower and work fingertip mag changes instead of having to manhandle a larger mag under the gun. Incorporating new material technology and manufacturing processes for enhanced strength, durability, and reliability, the PMAG 10 provides next-generation performance for those needing lower profile magazines. $13.95 The PMAG Round Limiters install in 10, 20, or 30 round GEN M3 magazines, reducing the magazine capacity by 5 or 10 rounds. Designed for sporting and hunting applications, installation of the Limiter is simple, tool-less, and requires no permanent modification of the magazine body. Minus 5 PMAG Round Limiter and Minus 10 PMAG Round Limiter are both $13.95.
Poster Comment: I support universal background checks, the magasine limitation of ten rounds and strong restrictions on assault rifles. One can both support the second amendment and restrictions that help save the lives of people, especially those of children. There is no conflict in doing that.
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#37. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
I'll go with the expert....;} I bet the AR Derby Winner in the Triple Crown. IT usually wins at least one leg.....;}
I hope it isn't your home Mike. But we both know it will be. One of the Main reasons I hate your god. Such a Vicious bastard. And humans nothing but yeast. Easy Marks.....I know.... let's tell them they have FREE WILL......we can pop 'em like ants under a magnifying glass......;}
Such a Vicious bastard. That is why God is so great. The evil people get sent to the lake of fire. I think it heats Heaven. You're going to be my log heating my room. If you keep rejecting your creator. Like wise men have said. People choose hell. Don't make a stupid choice clown. Please wake up.
I dedicate this to you.
[Chorus:] Where do bad folks go when they die? They don't go to heaven where the angels fly They go down to the lake of fire and fry Won't see 'em again till the fourth of July I knew a lady who came from Duluth She got bit by a dog with a rabid tooth She went to her grave just a little too soon And she flew away howling on the yellow moon [Chorus] Now the people cry and the people moan And they look for a dry place to call their home And try to find some place to rest their bones While the angels and the devils Fight to claim them for their own
Instead of the religious pontification, how about sticking to the thread topic and give an argument or two? Are you totally incapible of backing up your claim that comprehensive background checks violates the Second Amendment? I am simply not interested in hearing how badly you hate any religion but your own.
Only since 1934,and that was and is un-Constitutional. The US Supreme Court admitted this itself in the Miller case in 1939 when they ruled that the 2nd Amendment only applied to weapons suitable for military use. In truth,they were even wrong about that since not a single one of the elitist leftist bastards had ever served a single day in uniform,and had no freaking idea what kinds of weapons are appropriate for military use and which aren't. The 2nd Amendment is PRIMARILY directed towards military-grade weapons,but as been proven in every conflict between tribes since the dawn of time,people can and will use pretty much anything to kill one another. For example,wine bottles filled with gasoline were pretty damn effective in taking out tanks in WW-2. Does that make you want to ban gasoline and empty wine bottles? And people cannot possess RPG rocket launchers and rounds. Sure they can,and do. Your ability to own them is only limited by your income. Shit,Steven Speilberg has TWO SS-20 Russian ICBM's,complete with the launch trucks. With the murder of young children at Sandy Hook and because of the many mass killings people have done using these tools I have changed my mind about, there should be further restrictions as I indicated. So what? The Bill of Rights aren't based on your emotions. The bans are constitutional if passed, and does not damage the Second Amendment. Yeah,and there really is a rabbit that hides chicken eggs on Easter.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,it doesn't. Never has,never will. It just makes it more inconvenient. and is supported by over ninty percent of the general public. Whoopee! 90 percent of the general public supported public hangings right after arrest in some cases,as well as slavery. I guess maybe you are now supporting public hangings and slavery because that's what the majority wanted,and chances are would approve of today if given the option? The bans against high capacity magasines and further restrictions on assualt weapons makes mass killings much harder to do and make good sense. They are also supported by a vast majority of the general public. Ahhhh,yes! Once again you are falling back on the tyranny of the majority and confusing it with reason. You DO understand that democracy is mob rule,right?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,you are NOT. What you support is a watered-down PC version of the 2nd Amendment. and I have no interest in discussing my medical record just because someone else discusses it in Robin's Nest. Gee,I wonder if that is because your personal medical record would make YOU one of the persecuted? Not only because of the medicine you are taking,but on top of that you have a record of being prepared to use violence and weapons to harm or kill others. The federal government already has all the evidence they need to justify sending you off to a labor camp in some remote area to protect the public from attack. It would be "for the chil-runs',of course. They have a right to be protected from attack by violent monsters like you. Don't try to deny it,the Department of the Army has the proof. They will recognize that over ninety percent of people support comprehensive background checks and will pass them into law. If 90 percent of the people polled by CNN and the Huffington Post supported making all real property collectively-owned (a real possibility) ,I guess you think that should be passed into law,too? NRA sponsored laws in Louisiana have put convicted felons back on the street who were in possession of firearms. EXCELLENT NEWS! This means the Bill of Rights are still working,and unpopular people as well as popular people still have some protections from a over-reaching and power-mad oppressive government. It was perfectly legal for convicted felons who had served their time to own any weapon or weapons they wanted to own and could afford to have from the day our country was founded until the Gun Control Act of 1968 was signed into "law". For almost 200 years,this wasn't a problem. Suddenly it was,and the government has been illegally putting citizens in prison ever since. The ground has shifted away from them, and they are no longer just going to get their way in issues involving gun rights. Hey,Mike! You love that majority rule stuff so much how about we put it to the vote that minorities not receive ANY special treatment or considerations,and be treated exactly like white citizens both in terms of rights and responsibilities? How about we put it to majority vote that anybody seen crossing the border anywhere but at official crossings can be considered to be a illegal alien invader,and shot on sight? I am a veteran of nine years in the U.S. Military, a gun owner, and I support vigorously the Second Amendment. According to your own writings your door should be kicked in,your gun seized,and you should be imprisoned in a mental institution for having it. After all,isn't that the way a majority of the voting public think someone with such a violent history and record of being prepared to do violence with deadly weapons should be dealt with? And you can't even claim you were just doing your duty,either. You volunteered for the airborne infantry,and you volunteered for Special Forces. Man up and turn yourself in! After all,it's what 90 percent of the people polled by the Huffington Post,The NYT,CNN,and the DNC are demanding. Not to mention the old CPUSA,whatever the Progressive Party are calling themselves today,whatever the Democratic Socialists of America are calling themselves today,etc,etc,etc.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Says the gracious web site owner... LOL! You couldn't cut irony that thick with a chainsaw!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are going on a 1 week Carnival Cruise? Make sure you take a porta potty. I don't think those big fancy boats like to see people just "hanging it over the side.". Does bad things to the paint.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The one requirement needed to both run a site and act as a poster and moderator there at the same time is a split-personality. No normal person can wear both of those hats at the same time.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Gods have always been vicious bastards. A God that doesn't scare people isn't going to be respected and obeyed.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
One month. Princess. See ya next month petey.
I'll get you a refrigerator magnet souvenir from Vietnam if you want one. I've got a weight limit on baggage and such.
Thanks,but I don't need any more souvenirs from VN. VN is a beautiful place,but I'd still rather vacation in eastern Europe.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Amazon can track your next book purchase and you must show ID to buy some allergy medicine, but James Holmes spent months stockpiling thousands of bullets and head-to-toe ballistic gear without raising any red flags with authorities. This idiot acquired some of the tools of modern warfare as if he was buying a new wardrobe. We're different than other cultures as we do allow Americans to possess the same accoutrements that our military generally uses, but someone like this man should never have been given the access he had to such equipment and materials. But even some involved in the trade are troubled by how easily Holmes stocked up for his alleged rampage even while celebrating this largely unchecked freedom. We need to come up with a better system with our instant background checks so that we have the ability to make sure that people like this guy who have emotional problems or people who have felony records cannot get access to these kinds of weapons and equipment. And if this inconveniences the legitimate customers of this equipment to a certain degree, the saving in lives and increase in public safety is worth the extra hassle. I don't see such measures as affecting police officers looking to add to and upgrade their equipment, members of the military who don't want to wait on permission from the bureaucracy for new combat gear, and hobbyists like survivalists and paint ballers. Once vetted and checked, these folks should have just the same access to much if the same equipment they have always gotten. I do not see anything wrong with limiting the sales to some folks of some things with purely a military use. And checking more thoroughly just exactly who is buying what to put an end to this epidemic of mass shootings. The First Amendment as I mentioned restricts free speech when harm is done, and works because it makes people responsible for their speech. Making sure people are responsible with what munitions and war equipment they buy by restricting some from this trade who are too shaky and have no real legitimate use is just mandating the same sort of responsibility for people enjoying Second Amendment freedoms as exists for speech. And I see not a thing wrong with this.
Stone thinks I am another poster on another site where I am a member in good standing but have not posted on in a good long while. So he was playing Detective Columbo and trying to flush me out from a place I am not at. None of any medication I am taking currently would keep me from owning the guns and ammunition I now currently own.
Mike you have emotional problems. You take drugs to treat it. Would you agree that you have no business being anywhere near a gun? I mean you take drugs for depression.
Mike you are a liar. Lets give you a chance to tell the truth for once. How old are you? You already said before so this isn't information you haven't already posted here. Lets see if you can keep your story straight.
Your post is off topic.
Do you even know what this means? Probably not. 1.) You go to a gun store and buy a gun. You get background checked (current law). You give the gun to your son for his 13th birthday. Should you have to somehow figure out how to background check him??? 2.) I got a gun when I was 13. I traded it to a friend for a set of speakers when I was 15. Should I have gone to jail? These are the kind of questions that need to be answered. Just stating that you believe in "universal" background checks doesn't mean shit. It's just another in a long-line of meaningless, feel good phrases foisted on us by the unthinking, emotional left.
I checked and my Ferret Mike account is still in good standing at Robin's place. Robin does not give out two accounts to people so go ahead and notify her you think 'annica' and my new posts at her place are the same person. I have no problems with you embarrassing yourself this way. By the way, I was born in 1954.
The proposed law does not regulate private firearm exchanges. If it passes, what you give your thirteen year old will not be affected. As a parent, you are still responsible for your child's behavior. So what a kid does to learn how to use say a 22 cal rifle is your rresponsibility.
I also have mentioned Reagan was shot on my birthday. Now you know the day too. That plain enough for ya? Fucking idiot that you are.
WTF are you talking about?
Attacking my response to your personal attack? How disingenuous of you. Read the header of the thread, that's the topic. Not whether someone in another forum is talking about depression medications as you are obsessed with.
The discussion is guns. You want to ban them. You want to own them for yourself though. But you are hooked on prescription drugs. I'm not talking about someone on another forum. I don't know why you bring that up. Since you are hooked on prescription drugs you shouldn't own a gun correct? Or are you a hypocrite like ALL liberal dumbasses!
I definately do not want to ban them. I don't even want the assault rifles banned. I prefer to see the same kind of controls on them that fully automatic weapons have currently. I don't want the Second Amendment gutted. I just want to see reasonable measures taken that make it much harder to add to the too killing of so many people that has become an epidemic in this country.
Since you are hooked on prescription drugs you shouldn't own a gun correct?" And who says what prescriptions I have in my medicine cabinet? You seem to think you are a psychic.
Good luck with that one, that's a can of worm that does not need to be opened... Because if they pass that then "who" is going to make the determination as to what is or isn't a mental problem??? (They can't seem to figure out what to make of gays and pedophiles other than they're votes for their side)... You currently have people out running the streets that shouldn't be because of the "privacy" legislation that was passed years ago... It basically makes it impossible for some people to get the help they need, and doesn't stop them from being like Adam Lanza... And $5 says guys like him still won't get the help they need because the powers that be (the real loony toons) will zero in on political beliefs/affiliation to make their determinations as to who has "mental problems"... Hello Nazi Germany, USSR, etc...etc... goodbye USA....
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Good! Why should the Office of Reich Security and it's various relatives be the only ones able to protect themselves? We're different than other cultures as we do allow Americans to possess the same accoutrements that our military generally uses,... ALLOW? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR FREAKING MIND,COMRADE? THIS is what is wrong with the leftist mindset. The PEOPLE in America ALLOW the GOVERNMENT to buy and equip their employees/minions with this gear using OUR money. You and your fellow leftists have it backwards,and even the proof of over 40 million serfs in various leftist countries being murdered BY their governments in the 20th Century can't open your eyes to how dangerous your political opinions are. but someone like this man should never have been given the access he had to such equipment and materials. How is anyone supposed to know this in advance? OOOPS! That's right,in the COLLECTIVE EVERYBODY is punished for what SOME people MIGHT do. Providing none of those people wear government uniforms,that is. But even some involved in the trade are troubled by how easily Holmes stocked up for his alleged rampage even while celebrating this largely unchecked freedom. Yup,deys jist too much ob dat "freedom stuff" going around,ain't it? We MUST stomp it out! Then again,anybody that places safety over freedom doesn't have a reason to bitch when somebody in the government wants to put a bullet in the back of their necks because the Security of the State will always trump the security of the individual in all cases,right,comrade? And if this inconveniences the legitimate customers of this equipment to a certain degree, the saving in lives and increase in public safety is worth the extra hassle. There ya go! What software program are you using to convert the bleeping of sheep into English? I don't see such measures as affecting police officers looking to add to and upgrade their equipment, members of the military who don't want to wait on permission from the bureaucracy for new combat gear, and hobbyists like survivalists and paint ballers. Oh,it won't inhibit agents of the state from getting what they need to keep the serfs in line. Don't worry about that one. As for the others,you clearly don't think they have any rights other than the right to obey their masters,so don't pretend to be concerned about them. Once vetted and checked, these folks should have just the same access to much if the same equipment they have always gotten. Yup. In Big Rock Candy Mountain Land .... ...in the REAL world where the authorities have to grant PERMISSIONS,that doesn't happen,though. The First Amendment as I mentioned restricts free speech when harm is done, and works because it makes people responsible for their speech. People who misuse their firearms aren't held responsible for their actions? Since when?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Makes no difference. As a former soldier in the 82nd ABN Division and in Special Forces,you have exhibited a willingness to voluntarily kill others.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Get off your High Horse,stone. EVERYBODY but sociopaths have emotional problems. It's part of being human.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Which means you want them restricted to only the middle-class and wealthy being ALLOWED to own them after paying the proper fees. How does such a class system that ignores the FACT that the poor are more at risk of attack than the wealthy square with your leftist belief system? I don't want the Second Amendment gutted. I just want to see reasonable measures taken that make it much harder to add to the too killing of so many people that has become an epidemic in this country. EPIDEMIC? How do you define that word in a country with over 350 million people and fewer than 100 a year die because of your allegations?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The Toomey / Manchin law doesn't require this, but other proposals did.
And if I ever wake up in the middle of the night I find strange people have broken in, I'll use a firearm to change their world. I don't see that as something they would try to grab my guns over. What makes you think they think I bought what I own to use to decorate a rock garden with?
The Toomey/Manchin law is reasonable, proposals that go that far to ban gift giving and exchanges between family and friends are not. Nobody would give a gift of a gun to the whackos who have done mass shootings, and that is my focus only; to see an end to this cycle of violent mass killings.
I don't see these as 'trap' laws that are designed to do this. The fees I have seen are more then reasonable for most people to buy what they need for personal and family defense; or hunting and target shooting. In 2010 there were 358 murders involving rifles. Murders involving the use of handguns in the US that same year totaled 6,009, with another 1,939 murders with the firearm type unreported.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States You are greatly understating this Pete, and I feel the mass murders are an epidemic that precipitate the idea for others to do the same thing. We need this cycle of violence to be broken, and I feel restrictions on assault rifles, magazine size restrictions and a tighter background check are reasonable measures, and would not hurt our Second Amendment rights in any appreciable way.
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#38. To: A K A Stone, Freet Mike, All (#19)
You are a lying satanist witch. Your home is the lake of fire. Well it will be if you keep going this way.
#39. To: mcgowanjm (#38)
One of the Main reasons I hate your god.
#40. To: mcgowanjm, Ferret Mike (#38)
#41. To: sneakypete, mcgowinjm, ferret mike, Jethro Tull (#40)
#42. To: Ferret Mike (#35)
#43. To: A K A Stone (#41)
#44. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
There have long been restrictions on fully automatic weapons. And people cannot possess RPG rocket launchers and rounds.
#45. To: Ferret Mike (#7)
The universal background check helps kep criminald and the mentally ill from possessing firearms
#46. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
(Edited)
I am very much in support of the Second Amendment,
#47. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#20)
You are a lying satanist witch. Your home is the lake of fire.
#48. To: Fred Mertz (#22)
I'll be taking a one month sabbatical beginning this weekend. I won't be online and will be on the high seas.
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
His main problem is he fails to realize that to run a site, one has to let go of a megalomaniacs notion they are inherently always right.
#50. To: mcgowanjm (#38)
Such a Vicious bastard.
#51. To: sneakypete (#48)
You are going on a 1 week Carnival Cruise?
#52. To: sneakypete (#48)
#53. To: Fred Mertz (#52)
I'll get you a refrigerator magnet souvenir from Vietnam if you want one.
#54. To: sneakypete (#44)
#55. To: sneakypete (#46)
"Gee,I wonder if that is because your personal medical record would make YOU one of the persecuted? Not only because of the medicine you are taking,but on top of that you have a record of being prepared to use violence and weapons to harm or kill others."
#56. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
who have emotional problems or
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#55)
#58. To: A K A Stone (#57)
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
I support universal background checks
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#60. To: A K A Stone (#57)
#61. To: jwpegler (#59)
"You go to a gun store and buy a gun. You get background checked (current law). You give the gun to your son for his 13th birthday. Should you have to somehow figure out how to background check him???"
#62. To: A K A Stone (#57)
#63. To: Ferret Mike (#60)
I checked and my Ferret Mike account is still in good standing at Robin's place. Robin does not give out two accounts to people so go ahead and notify her you think 'annica' and my new posts at her place are the same person.
#64. To: A K A Stone (#63)
#65. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
Read the header of the thread, that's the topic
#66. To: A K A Stone (#65)
#67. To: A K A Stone (#65)
"I'm not talking about someone on another forum. I don't know why you bring that up.
#68. To: Ferret Mike, AKA Stone, jwpegler, sneakypete (#54)
We need to come up with a better system with our instant background checks so that we have the ability to make sure that people like this guy who have emotional problems or people who have felony records cannot get access to these kinds of weapons and equipment.
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
James Holmes spent months stockpiling thousands of bullets and head-to-toe ballistic gear without raising any red flags with authorities.
#70. To: Ferret Mike (#55)
None of any medication I am taking currently would keep me from owning the guns and ammunition I now currently own.
#71. To: A K A Stone (#56)
Mike you have emotional problems.
#72. To: Ferret Mike (#66)
I definately do not want to ban them. I don't even want the assault rifles banned. I prefer to see the same kind of controls on them that fully automatic weapons have currently.
#73. To: Ferret Mike (#61)
The proposed law does not regulate private firearm exchanges. If it passes, what you give your thirteen year old will not be affected.
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#74. To: sneakypete (#70)
"Makes no difference. As a former soldier in the 82nd ABN Division and in Special Forces,you have exhibited a willingness to voluntarily kill others."
#75. To: jwpegler (#73)
"The Toomey / Manchin law doesn't require this, but other proposals did."
#76. To: sneakypete (#72)
"Which means you want them restricted to only the middle-class and wealthy being ALLOWED to own them after paying the proper fees."
"EPIDEMIC? How do you define that word in a country with over 350 million people and fewer than 100 a year die because of your allegations?"
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