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Title: Gun magazine maker who threatened to leave CO over magazine limits, now making smaller magazines
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Published: Apr 9, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-04-09 15:04:54 by Ferret Mike
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I support universal background checks, the magasine limitation of ten rounds and strong restrictions on assault rifles. One can both support the second amendment and restrictions that help save the lives of people, especially those of children. There is no conflict in doing that. (2 images)

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

But it defeats the purpose.

Which is unlimited firepower.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-10   8:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1) (Edited)

What is the opposite of panic?

Bruce Schneier Schneier on Security A blog covering security and security technology.Schneier on Security A blog covering security and security technology.

www.schneier.com/blog/arc.../2013/04/elite_panic.html

"Elite Panic" It seems to be generally accepted now that the social progress that occurred in the 100 years or so up to, well, Thatcher, was caused by this fear in the elites of an uprising by the 99%. This fear obviously no longer exists, as demonstrated by the sheer gall of the ongoing program of additional taking successfully proposed by the politicians who work for 1% (e. g., Barry has no fear at all, and not even the slightest embarrassment, with his cat food idea). It has been a sort of social experiment - see what outrages they can get away with before the riots start. Since the riots never really started, the experiment continues, accelerating. 'Progressives' are professional cheerleaders for the experiment.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-10   8:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

One can both support the second amendment and restrictions

Of course you do as you hate the constitution. You cannot support both.

A right is a right not to be taken away by the whim of the evil government.

Mike you are a liar. You are Mike.

Since you are on anti depressants you shouldn't have a gun right?

Do you deny you take medication for your depression?

Why you so depressed Mike?

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-10   9:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#3)

You cannot support both.

A right is a right not to be taken away by the whim of the evil government.

Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it.

Madison, Federalist 46, re the Militia by nolu chan

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10 USC 311 - § 311. Militia: composition and classes (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States wo are members of the National Guard.

10 USC 311 - MILITIA, Composition and Classes by nolu chan

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Militia Act of 8 May 1792. ...each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective states, resident therein, who is or shall be of the age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia....

Militia Act of 8 May 1792, provide for national defence by nolu chan

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FBI — Table 20, Murder, by State, Types of Weapons, 2010 by nolu chan

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nolu chan  posted on  2013-04-10   14:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#4)

Go beat off somewhere else, dickwad.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hi to your mom for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2013-04-10   15:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

The Constitution gives us free speech, and it works because we are accountable for how we use it. If you threaten certain officials, you can go to prison. If you yell fire in a crowded theater and people get hurt in the stampede to the door, you are also in trouble.

There have long been restrictions on fully automatic weapons. And people cannot possess RPG rocket launchers and rounds.

With the murder of young children at Sandy Hook and because of the many mass killings people have done using these tools I have changed my mind about, there should be further restrictions as I indicated.

The bans are constitutional if passed, and does not damage the Second Amendment.

As for the personal questions from info gleaned from Robin's Nest where you are a lurker from a family member's post:

You are not my doctor, I don't answer to you about my medical needs or lack of them.

You should ask yourself why you have a problem with limits that cause you to wander into tasteless behavior.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-10   15:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

"But it defeats the purpose.

Which is unlimited firepower."

As I indicated to Stone, we have responsibiltites to use free speech in a way that does not injure, endanger or harm others.

The universal background check helps kep criminald and the mentally ill from possessing firearms and is supported by over ninty percent of the general public.

The bans against high capacity magasines and further restrictions on assualt weapons makes mass killings much harder to do and make good sense. They are also supported by a vast majority of the general public.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-10   15:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

Mike you are on depression medication. So you shouldn't have a gun correct?

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-10   16:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

I have changed my mind about,

Got ya. The TV programmed you.

You used to believe in the second amendment (allegedly) but now you "have changed your mind".

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-10   16:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

"You are Mike."

I am. I just went to the Nest and reviewed the person's posts this past week and she said noting about me. Next time quote the material, and address the question to the person the post is about.

I had a head injury that is well known because it involved an incident that was quite public. Many people have head injuries, and one of the common side affects of them is chronic depression and memory loss.

Whether I too have these effects from my 43 foot fall to the pavement putting me in a coma for a time, what of it and why is it a business of yours'?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-10   16:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9) (Edited)

"(allegedly)"

You show signs of being hyper-vigilant and overly paranoid. I could also contend that you should ask yourself if you are someone who should be handling firearms, not me.

You are not a medical practitioner, and neither am I, so it is inappropriate to go to where you have led the discussion. If this is the best you have to offer in debate, I have nothing more to say on this thread.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-10   16:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nolu chan (#4)

Let a regular army, fully equal to theresources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at thedevotion of the federal government; still it would not be going toofar to say, that the State governments, with the people on theirside, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number towhich, according to the best computation, a standing army can becarried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of thewhole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the numberable to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the UnitedStates, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men.To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half amillion of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by menchosen from among themselves, fighting for their commonliberties, and united and conducted by governments possessingtheir affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether amilitia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such aproportion of regular troops.

I think Madison was incorrect here.

So are you on Obama's side in this gun control thing they have going on?

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   0:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

You show signs of being hyper-vigilant and overly paranoid.

You show signs of being a liar. A proven liar.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   0:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

You are not a medical practitioner, and neither am I, so it is inappropriate to go to where you have led the discussion.

You are saying you "changed your mind" and no longer support the second amendment.

Since you are on anti depressants (and some people on them have been known to wack out and kill people)

Do you feel a duty to not have a firearm?

Is that what changed your mind? Knowing that you shouldn't have any firearms since you take drugs for your depression.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   0:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

You are not a medical practitioner, and neither am I, so it is inappropriate to go to where you have led the discussion.

Also. Since most in congress aren't medical practitioners. Do they have any business voting on this? Except Rand Paul since he has medical experience.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   0:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#13)

"You show signs of being a liar. A proven liar."

You are paranoid and I have no use for our whacked out, over the top and insulting way you comport yourself.

I am very much in support of the Second Amendment, and I have no interest in discussing my medical record just because someone else discusses it in Robin's Nest.

The Congress in all likelihood will give in to the political reality that most of the political races sponsored by the NRA the last election failed. They will recognize that over ninety percent of people support comprehensive background checks and will pass them into law.

NRA sponsored laws in Louisiana have put convicted felons back on the street who were in possession of firearms. These same laws also passed in several other states are getting a hard look by lawmakers there who do not want felons in possession of firearms, and the NRA can expect the backlash to this recent development to grow. The ground has shifted away from them, and they are no longer just going to get their way in issues involving gun rights.

Now, if you want to discuss the issues respectfully, you need to grow up and start doing so.

I am a veteran of nine years in the U.S. Military, a gun owner, and I support vigorously the Second Amendment.

If you can't accept that and be respectful in your approach to conversation in a thread, there is no foundation in place to talk to you on this issue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-11   0:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

Here is one of your many lies liar.

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 41.

#9. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

"Author: Ferret Annica (Gay)"

Actually, that poster is a woman. As far as i know, she ain't banned. http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27123&Disp=41&Trace=on

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   7:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

You are paranoid and I have no use for our whacked out, over the top and insulting way you comport yourself.

You are a delusional liar Mike. Like I just said.

Now go take some more drugs for your depression you addict.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   7:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

I am very much in support of the Second Amendment,

2 posts ago I proved you are a liar.

Now you lie again.

You said you "changed your mind". You are no supporter of the second amendment.

You are a lying satanist witch. Your home is the lake of fire. Well it will be if you keep going this way.

I hope it isn't your home Mike. But we both know it will be.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   7:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

You are a lying satanist witch. Your home is the lake of fire.

Says the gracious web site owner...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-04-11   7:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

That is where unrepentant liars end up Fred.

That is what your church teaches.

By the way you left off the part where I said I hope it isn't his home.

Have a good day Fred.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   7:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Just so you know, I'll be taking a one month sabbatical beginning this weekend. I won't be online and will be on the high seas. I'll follow the news as best I can but getting away from it all will likely be therapeutic for me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-04-11   7:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#22)

What kind of high seas? What are you going to do?

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hi to your mom for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2013-04-11   7:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Biff Tannen (#23)

Asian Cruise. I won't pay $30 an hour for 'net access.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-04-11   7:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Fred Mertz (#22)

Have a good trip Fred. Sounds fun.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   8:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

A European Missionary to Imperial China would have better luck.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-11   9:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

Tuesday, April 09, 2013

Ten Years On... April 9, 2013 marks ten years since the fall of Baghdad. Ten years since the invasion. Since the lives of millions of Iraqis changed forever. It’s difficult to believe. It feels like only yesterday I was sharing day to day activities with the world. I feel obliged today to put my thoughts down on the blog once again, probably for the last time.

In 2003, we were counting our lives in days and weeks. Would we make it to next month? Would we make it through the summer? Some of us did and many of us didn't. Back in 2003, one year seemed like a lifetime ahead. The idiots said, “Things will improve immediately.” The optimists were giving our occupiers a year, or two… The realists said, “Things won’t improve for at least five years.” And the pessimists? The pessimists said, “It will take ten years. It will take a decade.” Looking back at the last ten years, what have our occupiers and their Iraqi governments given us in ten years? What have our puppets achieved in this last decade? What have we learned?

We learned a lot.

We learned that while life is not fair, death is even less fair- it takes the good people. Even in death you can be unlucky. Lucky ones die a ‘normal’ death… A familiar death of cancer, or a heart-attack, or stroke. Unlucky ones have to be collected in bits and pieces. Their families trying to bury what can be salvaged and scraped off of streets that have seen so much blood, it is a wonder they are not red. We learned that you can be floating on a sea of oil, but your people can be destitute. Your city can be an open sewer; your women and children can be eating out of trash dumps and begging for money in foreign lands. We learned that justice does not prevail in this day and age. Innocent people are persecuted and executed daily. Some of them in courts, some of them in streets, and some of them in the private torture chambers. We are learning that corruption is the way to go. You want a passport issued? Pay someone. You want a document ratified? Pay someone. You want someone dead? Pay someone. We learned that it’s not that difficult to make billions disappear. We are learning that those amenities we took for granted before 2003, you know- the luxuries – electricity, clean water from faucets, walkable streets, safe schools – those are for deserving populations. Those are for people who don’t allow occupiers into their country. We’re learning that the biggest fans of the occupation (you know who you are, you traitors) eventually leave abroad. And where do they go? The USA, most likely, with the UK a close second. If I were an American, I’d be outraged. After spending so much money and so many lives, I’d expect the minor Chalabis and Malikis and Hashimis of Iraq to, well, stay in Iraq. Invest in their country. I’d stand in passport control and ask them, “Weren’t you happy when we invaded your country? Weren’t you happy we liberated you? Go back. Go back to the country you’re so happy with because now, you’re free!”

As A K A and his ZioFundies think Iraq/the Afghans/the War of 9/11 was a Spectacular success, arguing for apologies for WMD will be futile.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-11   9:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mcgowanjm (#27)

As A K A and his ZioFundies think Iraq/the Afghans/the War of 9/11 was a Spectacular success...

Careful there, he might pull a Robin on you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-04-11   11:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#28)

As A K A and his ZioFundies think Iraq/the Afghans/the War of 9/11 was a Spectacular success...

Careful there, he might pull a Robin on you.

And like I said then:

I've been kicked out of better bars than this......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-11   11:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mcgowanjm, war (#29)

War Academy in the Arkansas Derby?

I'm sticking with Verrazano to win the big Derby...watch out for Normandy Invasion.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-04-11   12:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#19)

With a rude and delusional post like that, all you deserve is to be told to go fuck yourself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-11   15:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

"Says the gracious web site owner..."

His main problem is he fails to realize that to run a site, one has to let go of a megalomaniacs notion they are inherently always right. he has no respect for anyone but himself and is completely impossible to talk to.

Small wonder there is more life on the surface of Mercury then on this ghost town of a forum. He will never learn to do anything other then living the insanity of trying the same thing over and over again in here expecting different results and not getting them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-11   17:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2013-04-11   22:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

With a rude and delusional post like that, all you deserve is to be told to go fuck yourself.

Mike you are a proven liar.

Mike you are against the second amendment.

Mike you are an ignorant fool.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-11   22:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

"Mike you are against the second amendment."

I see your baitful sentence, now what is your argument? All you know how to do is lay down a toothless taunt.

I feel sorry for you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-04-12   0:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#35)

Get a room, you two.

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hi to your mom for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2013-04-12   7:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

I'll go with the expert....;}

I bet the AR Derby Winner in the Triple Crown.

IT usually wins at least one leg.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-12   10:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone, Freet Mike, All (#19)

You are a lying satanist witch. Your home is the lake of fire. Well it will be if you keep going this way.

I hope it isn't your home Mike. But we both know it will be.

One of the Main reasons I hate your god.

Such a Vicious bastard.

And humans nothing but yeast. Easy Marks.....I know....

let's tell them they have FREE WILL......we can pop 'em like ants under a magnifying glass......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-04-12   11:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mcgowanjm (#38)

One of the Main reasons I hate your god.

Such a Vicious bastard.

That is why God is so great. The evil people get sent to the lake of fire. I think it heats Heaven.

You're going to be my log heating my room. If you keep rejecting your creator.

Like wise men have said. People choose hell. Don't make a stupid choice clown. Please wake up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-12   11:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm, Ferret Mike (#38)

I dedicate this to you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-04-12   11:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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