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Title: Gun magazine maker who threatened to leave CO over magazine limits, now making smaller magazines
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URL Source: http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gear ... m3-ms4-sling-and-mag-limiters/
Published: Apr 9, 2013
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Post Date: 2013-04-09 15:04:54 by Ferret Mike
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Poster Comment: I support universal background checks, the magasine limitation of ten rounds and strong restrictions on assault rifles. One can both support the second amendment and restrictions that help save the lives of people, especially those of children. There is no conflict in doing that.
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#3. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Of course you do as you hate the constitution. You cannot support both. A right is a right not to be taken away by the whim of the evil government. Mike you are a liar. You are Mike. Since you are on anti depressants you shouldn't have a gun right? Do you deny you take medication for your depression? Why you so depressed Mike?
The Constitution gives us free speech, and it works because we are accountable for how we use it. If you threaten certain officials, you can go to prison. If you yell fire in a crowded theater and people get hurt in the stampede to the door, you are also in trouble. There have long been restrictions on fully automatic weapons. And people cannot possess RPG rocket launchers and rounds. With the murder of young children at Sandy Hook and because of the many mass killings people have done using these tools I have changed my mind about, there should be further restrictions as I indicated. The bans are constitutional if passed, and does not damage the Second Amendment. As for the personal questions from info gleaned from Robin's Nest where you are a lurker from a family member's post: You are not my doctor, I don't answer to you about my medical needs or lack of them. You should ask yourself why you have a problem with limits that cause you to wander into tasteless behavior.
Only since 1934,and that was and is un-Constitutional. The US Supreme Court admitted this itself in the Miller case in 1939 when they ruled that the 2nd Amendment only applied to weapons suitable for military use. In truth,they were even wrong about that since not a single one of the elitist leftist bastards had ever served a single day in uniform,and had no freaking idea what kinds of weapons are appropriate for military use and which aren't. The 2nd Amendment is PRIMARILY directed towards military-grade weapons,but as been proven in every conflict between tribes since the dawn of time,people can and will use pretty much anything to kill one another. For example,wine bottles filled with gasoline were pretty damn effective in taking out tanks in WW-2. Does that make you want to ban gasoline and empty wine bottles? And people cannot possess RPG rocket launchers and rounds. Sure they can,and do. Your ability to own them is only limited by your income. Shit,Steven Speilberg has TWO SS-20 Russian ICBM's,complete with the launch trucks. With the murder of young children at Sandy Hook and because of the many mass killings people have done using these tools I have changed my mind about, there should be further restrictions as I indicated. So what? The Bill of Rights aren't based on your emotions. The bans are constitutional if passed, and does not damage the Second Amendment. Yeah,and there really is a rabbit that hides chicken eggs on Easter.
Amazon can track your next book purchase and you must show ID to buy some allergy medicine, but James Holmes spent months stockpiling thousands of bullets and head-to-toe ballistic gear without raising any red flags with authorities. This idiot acquired some of the tools of modern warfare as if he was buying a new wardrobe. We're different than other cultures as we do allow Americans to possess the same accoutrements that our military generally uses, but someone like this man should never have been given the access he had to such equipment and materials. But even some involved in the trade are troubled by how easily Holmes stocked up for his alleged rampage even while celebrating this largely unchecked freedom. We need to come up with a better system with our instant background checks so that we have the ability to make sure that people like this guy who have emotional problems or people who have felony records cannot get access to these kinds of weapons and equipment. And if this inconveniences the legitimate customers of this equipment to a certain degree, the saving in lives and increase in public safety is worth the extra hassle. I don't see such measures as affecting police officers looking to add to and upgrade their equipment, members of the military who don't want to wait on permission from the bureaucracy for new combat gear, and hobbyists like survivalists and paint ballers. Once vetted and checked, these folks should have just the same access to much if the same equipment they have always gotten. I do not see anything wrong with limiting the sales to some folks of some things with purely a military use. And checking more thoroughly just exactly who is buying what to put an end to this epidemic of mass shootings. The First Amendment as I mentioned restricts free speech when harm is done, and works because it makes people responsible for their speech. Making sure people are responsible with what munitions and war equipment they buy by restricting some from this trade who are too shaky and have no real legitimate use is just mandating the same sort of responsibility for people enjoying Second Amendment freedoms as exists for speech. And I see not a thing wrong with this.
Good! Why should the Office of Reich Security and it's various relatives be the only ones able to protect themselves? We're different than other cultures as we do allow Americans to possess the same accoutrements that our military generally uses,... ALLOW? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR FREAKING MIND,COMRADE? THIS is what is wrong with the leftist mindset. The PEOPLE in America ALLOW the GOVERNMENT to buy and equip their employees/minions with this gear using OUR money. You and your fellow leftists have it backwards,and even the proof of over 40 million serfs in various leftist countries being murdered BY their governments in the 20th Century can't open your eyes to how dangerous your political opinions are. but someone like this man should never have been given the access he had to such equipment and materials. How is anyone supposed to know this in advance? OOOPS! That's right,in the COLLECTIVE EVERYBODY is punished for what SOME people MIGHT do. Providing none of those people wear government uniforms,that is. But even some involved in the trade are troubled by how easily Holmes stocked up for his alleged rampage even while celebrating this largely unchecked freedom. Yup,deys jist too much ob dat "freedom stuff" going around,ain't it? We MUST stomp it out! Then again,anybody that places safety over freedom doesn't have a reason to bitch when somebody in the government wants to put a bullet in the back of their necks because the Security of the State will always trump the security of the individual in all cases,right,comrade? And if this inconveniences the legitimate customers of this equipment to a certain degree, the saving in lives and increase in public safety is worth the extra hassle. There ya go! What software program are you using to convert the bleeping of sheep into English? I don't see such measures as affecting police officers looking to add to and upgrade their equipment, members of the military who don't want to wait on permission from the bureaucracy for new combat gear, and hobbyists like survivalists and paint ballers. Oh,it won't inhibit agents of the state from getting what they need to keep the serfs in line. Don't worry about that one. As for the others,you clearly don't think they have any rights other than the right to obey their masters,so don't pretend to be concerned about them. Once vetted and checked, these folks should have just the same access to much if the same equipment they have always gotten. Yup. In Big Rock Candy Mountain Land .... ...in the REAL world where the authorities have to grant PERMISSIONS,that doesn't happen,though. The First Amendment as I mentioned restricts free speech when harm is done, and works because it makes people responsible for their speech. People who misuse their firearms aren't held responsible for their actions? Since when?
We grant them prerogatives when they hold office to enforce rules for the greater good. And if we decide they overstep those boundaries we can remove them from office or vote to chang ethe rules they are operating under. You vastly overstate their powers and underestimate our powers as the people to fire those in power or work to chang ethe system for the better. The U.S. Constitution works because we are still responsible to use rights given us in it such as the Second Amendment in an accountable manner. And when people don't do this, it is incumbent on us to restrict unaccountable behavior; such as people using assault rifles and large magazines to lay down heavy fire with the intention of killing as many people in as fast a manner as possible in a way that is hard to interrupt. If the idiot who did Sandy Hook had had to change his magazines more frequently, more kids could of escaped then the five who did during a magazine change did. The man who shot Gabby Gifford and many others was stopped during a magazine change. I see these restrictions as having no real effect on most of the activities people use guns for. And I see them as being deterrents to the continuation of the cycle of mass killings we now see in this country. A cycle that must be broken.
Last time I checked,it was already illegal to murder people,regardless of the tools used. Banning tools isn't going to stop murders.
#82. To: sneakypete (#80)
Last time I checked, the worst of the gun grabbers wanting all firearms seized were few in number and the people willing to vigorously stand and oppose them were quite large in number and not in any mood to put up with such nonsense. I sure don't want my firearms taken away and cops to be the only one with guns. And most people supporting the moderate measures proposed in the wake of Sandy Hook feel much the same way. And it was Sandy Hook that change my mind on this issue in a big way. I don't want this slaughter of innocent children to ever pe repeated in this country.
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#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)
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#44. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
There have long been restrictions on fully automatic weapons. And people cannot possess RPG rocket launchers and rounds.
#54. To: sneakypete (#44)
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
James Holmes spent months stockpiling thousands of bullets and head-to-toe ballistic gear without raising any red flags with authorities.
#78. To: sneakypete (#69)
"THIS is what is wrong with the leftist mindset. The PEOPLE in America ALLOW the GOVERNMENT to buy and equip their employees/minions with this gear using OUR money. You and your fellow leftists have it backwards,and even the proof of over 40 million serfs in various leftist countries being murdered BY their governments in the 20th Century can't open your eyes to how dangerous your political opinions are."
"Yup,deys jist too much ob dat "freedom stuff" going around,ain't it? We MUST stomp it out!
#80. To: Ferret Mike (#78)
The U.S. Constitution works because we are still responsible to use rights given us in it such as the Second Amendment in an accountable manner. And when people don't do this, it is incumbent on us to restrict unaccountable behavior; such as people using assault rifles and large magazines to lay down heavy fire with the intention of killing as many people in as fast a manner as possible in a way that is hard to interrupt.
Replies to Comment # 80. "Last time I checked,it was already illegal to murder people,regardless of the tools used. Banning tools isn't going to stop murders."
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