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Title: Creationist stakes $10,000 on contest between Bible and evolution
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201 ... -trial-bible-genesis-evolution
Published: Mar 27, 2013
Author: Amanda Holepunch
Post Date: 2013-03-27 15:33:40 by Thunderbird
Keywords: Creation, Evolution, Trial
Views: 71800
Comments: 104

A California creationist is offering a $10,000 challenge to anyone who can prove in front of a judge that science contradicts the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.

Dr Joseph Mastropaolo, who says he has set up the contest, the Literal Genesis Trial, in the hope of improving the quality of arguments between creationists and evolutionists, has pledged to put $10,000 of his own money into an escrow account before the debate. His competitor would be expected to do the same. The winner would take the $20,000 balance.

The argument would not be made in a formal court, but under an alternative dispute resolution model known as a minitrial. Mastropaolo said he would present the argument in favor of a literal interpretation of the creation story once he had found a willing scientist to argue that a non-literal interpretation of Genesis is more scientific.

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Creationist stakes $10,000 on contest between Bible and evolution

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Amanda Holpuch guardian.co.uk, Monday 25 March 2013 15.46 EDT Jump to comments (437)

creationism A scene from the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky. Photograph: Jeff Haynes/AFP/Getty Images

A California creationist is offering a $10,000 challenge to anyone who can prove in front of a judge that science contradicts the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.

Dr Joseph Mastropaolo, who says he has set up the contest, the Literal Genesis Trial, in the hope of improving the quality of arguments between creationists and evolutionists, has pledged to put $10,000 of his own money into an escrow account before the debate. His competitor would be expected to do the same. The winner would take the $20,000 balance.

The argument would not be made in a formal court, but under an alternative dispute resolution model known as a minitrial. Mastropaolo said he would present the argument in favor of a literal interpretation of the creation story once he had found a willing scientist to argue that a non-literal interpretation of Genesis is more scientific.

"They [evolutionists] are not stupid people, they are bright, but they are bright enough to know there is no scientific evidence they can give in a minitrial," Mastropaolo said.

A minitrial differs from a regular trial because it does not need to be held in a courthouse and does not require the presence of traditional court figures. Mastropaolo plans to have a bailiff and court reporter in attendance, along with the judge. Contest rules state that evidence must be scientific, which means it is "objective, valid, reliable and calibrated".

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#1. To: Thunderbird (#0) (Edited)

science contradicts the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis

The bible shouldn't be read literally. Israelites: We wandered in the desert for 40 years. Native Americas: We haven't had rain in many moons. 40 years, many moons -- both mean a really long time. God created the universe in 6 days. 6 days means a very short time, because god is powerful. They are expressions, not accurate measures of time.

All evidence points to the earth being about 4.5 billion years old, in a universe that's 13.8 billion years old. There is no evidence, anywhere that demonstrates that the earth and universe are 6,000 years old. NONE.

Of course, everything we see (including us) could be a computer simulation that is 10 seconds old -- with all of our memories, experiences, and everything we see around us pre-programmed in before the program started up 10 seconds ago. 10 seconds, 6,000 years, both are a real scientific possibility.

However, from our perspective, living in this universe, science is very clear about the age of the universe -- including brand new evidence from high resolution scans of the cosmic microwave background radiation.

We have to go with what we can prove through science.

jwpegler  posted on  2013-03-27   19:46:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

All evidence points to the earth being about 4.5 billion years old, in a universe that's 13.8 billion years old.

All evidence points to a young earth. Just like God said. His word is accurate.

You said we have to go with what we can prove. You can't prove any of the comments you made. Not one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-03-27   19:51:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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All evidence points to a young earth.

There is no evidence for a young earth. NONE.

There is tons of evidence for the universe being 13.8 billion years old and the earth being 4.5 billions of years old. The evidence includes, but is not limited to: the rate the universe is expanding, the cosmic microwave background radiation, the observable life-cycle of stars of various types, the newly observable life-cycle of exo-planet formation, the geological record on earth, and much more.

The vast majority of Christians reject this young earth nonsense. Young earth believers are a small minority within the Christian community. They shouldn't be taken seriously because they reject all scientific evidence out-of-hand, just like you are doing here.

jwpegler  posted on  2013-03-27 20:06:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

Just like God said.

God did NOT say the earth and universe are 6,000 years old as young earth believers claim. There is no evidence in the Bible for this view.

jwpegler  posted on  2013-03-27 20:08:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Just like God said. His word is accurate.

And God declares it in Isaiah 42:

5 Thus says God the Lord,

Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread out the earth and its [d]offspring, Who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk in it,

6 “I am the Lord, I have called You in righteousness, I will also hold You by the hand and watch over You, And I will appoint You as a covenant to the people, As a light to the nations,

7 To open blind eyes, To bring out prisoners from the dungeon And those who dwell in darkness from the prison.

8 “I am the Lord, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to [e]graven images.

9 “Behold, the former things have come to pass, Now I declare new things; Before they spring forth I proclaim them to you.”

redleghunter  posted on  2013-03-28 13:39:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#2)

All evidence points to a young earth. Just like God said. His word is accurate.

You said we have to go with what we can prove. You can't prove any of the comments you made. Not one.

Yup. It's amazing.

As I've stated and explained a bit, The Great Flood wasn't just about rain. The earth opened and "founts" of water burst through, creating all kinds of cataclysmic activity. ALL of evidence of life ("prehistoric" and otherwise) is found ONLY in the fossil records that were produced ONLY during THE single Flood event.

God had a reason for making the earth in 6 days. How anyone can deem the power of the Creator of the Universe incapable of doing so would also have to "prove" He is a liar. The days before the Great Flood were a very alien world compared to the post-Flood.

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