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Title: Minimum wage politics. Republicans need to wake up.
Source: chron.com
URL Source: http://www.chron.com/opinion/outloo ... icans-need-to-wake-4322055.php
Published: Mar 3, 2013
Author: Bill King
Post Date: 2013-03-03 01:27:00 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 14306
Comments: 41

If you believe, as I do, that the $1.75 increase in the minimum wage will have relatively little actual impact on the economy in either direction, it begs the question of why the parties have so vehemently squared off on this issue. The answer is found in the polling on the minimum wage.

It turns out the president's proposal is overwhelming supported by the American people. A number of polls have confirmed that something in the 60 to 70 percent range support the increase. Of course, among Democrats it's even higher at about 90 percent. Independents are at about the national average and even about half of Republicans think it is a good idea.

Yet, even though the proposal probably does not have much effect on the economy as a whole and it has the support of a wide majority of the American public, virtually every Republican congressional leader has knee-jerk condemned the increase. In fact, they have literally rushed to the microphone to trumpet the evils of the minimum wage. They have done so because there is only one group that opposes the increase, the tea party. By an almost 2 to 1 margin, self-identified tea party members say the increase in the minimum wage is a bad idea.The problem for Republicans in Congress is that tea party members represent a large bloc of, and in some cases, a majority of Republican primary voters. As a result, congressional Republicans are literally caught between a rock and a hard spot.

If they acquiesce to what a majority of Americans want, they risk alienating the folks who decide who their party's nominees will be. So instead, congressional Republicans go in front of the cameras and tell the American people their opinion about the minimum wage does not matter because they are wrong which, not surprisingly, further alienates most voters.

Of course, being the masterful political tacticians they are, the Obama political team knew exactly how a proposal to increase the minimum wage would play out. In issue after issue, the president has laid the same trap for the Republicans, forcing them to thumb their noses at the majority of the American public to placate their base. And every time, the Republicans fall for it, rushing over the cliff like a herd of lemmings.

Most recent polls show that the president's job approval rating is far higher than Congressional Republicans. In some polls his advantage is nearly 2-to-1. And the approval rating for Congress generally and congressional Republicans specifically is at the lowest level in decades. Democrats now enjoy an advantage of several points in generic congressional polls. In a president's second term, his party has never gained seats in the mid-term election. But if something does not change, the Democrats are positioned to do just that.

The fact that the Republicans may for the first time in the history of the republic lose seats in the mid-term elections of a president's second term shows just what a death spiral the Republican Party is in.

Many moderate, business-oriented Republicans are increasingly turned off by the party's leaders' antics. The only reason many Republicans have not bolted from the party altogether is simply because they view the alternative as so much worse.

When I first began in business more than 30 years ago, I had a mentor who would frequently ask me, "Do you want to be right or do you want to be rich?" His point was that sometimes insisting that you are right on every issue gets in the way of pragmatic solutions.

It is a lesson that the Republicans need to learn, and had better learn fast. With demographic trends already forcefully moving against the Republican Party, it can hardly stand to be outflanked time and again by the president into making it look like it does not give a damn what a majority of the American people think.

News flash to Republicans: This is still a democracy and, notwithstanding the dysfunctional primary system, at the end of the day, the majority rules.

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#7. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

It turns out the president's proposal is overwhelming supported by the American people. A number of polls have confirmed that something in the 60 to 70 percent range support the increase. Of course, among Democrats it's even higher at about 90 percent. Independents are at about the national average and even about half of Republicans think it is a good idea.

It's because a century of socialistic policies have conditioned the populace to expect giveaways from government at the expense of the free market principles this nation was founded on.

(Cue mininggold. Someone said something about a free market! Come and spew some nonsense!)

We The People  posted on  2013-03-03   9:55:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: We The People (#7)

"It's because a century of socialistic policies have conditioned the populace to expect giveaways from government at the expense of the free market principles this nation was founded on."

The minimu wage currently is not enough to live on and an adiquate wage wouldblood lifeblood into the economy, allow people to be fed, housed and stay offf assistance like food stamps.

The ReThugs are going to oppose this and this will help them lose more seats in the next election. Which is why it was important to propose and push this nessesary measure now.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-03-03   18:16:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#13) (Edited)

The minimu wage currently is not enough to live on and an adiquate wage wouldblood lifeblood into the economy, allow people to be fed, housed and stay offf assistance like food stamps.

It's just another form of assistance though, not to mention redistribution. The money HAS to come from someone.

It's not magic money that just appears because someone signed a bill into law.

We The People  posted on  2013-03-04   19:38:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: We The People (#23)

People work for that wage, and many people depend on it to survive. People want to buy a commodity like another person's labor they should pay a fair market price for it high enough so they don't have to be a burden on society because they make so little they get food stamps and other public assistance.

Many doing low wage jobs are older and thus not the most sought after employees due to their age. Many live in an area where this is demographically the largest block of jobs availible.

I support a higher and nationally set minimum wage. I can understand you and others here might disagree with me, but that is how if goes on this issue.

I know the reasons you disagree because I have read a lot on this issue, but I have taken the other opinion in regards to the issue. That is just how it goes, thanks for your view on this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-03-04   20:13:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#24) (Edited)

What if you've got an octogenarian retiree who wants to work at the local grocery store as a greeter/bagger (4 hours/day, 5 days/per week, something to stay active), and doesn't want more than five bucks an hour. Should this be disallowed by the Federal Leviathan?

What if my construction company agrees to hire my brothers' boys to clean-up around the site and learn some skills. These nephews are great kids, but I've got a business to run and have no time for babysitting. For the hassle, I agree to start these teenagers out at five bucks an hour. Heck, they feel rich--and empowered--after working with me for a few months. But they are still not worth nine bucks an hour...yet they are learning some skills they can utilize for the benefit of future employers...should THIS be declared ILLEGAL by the InsideTheBeltway JUNTA?

Regards...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2013-03-04   20:30:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mudboy Slim (#25)

"What if you've got an octogenarian retiree who wants to work at the local grocery store as a greeter/bagger (4 hours/day, 5 days/per week, something to stay active), and doesn't want more than five bucks an hour. Should this be disallowed by the Federal Leviathan?"

Nope, people are going to want the wage the law sets it at. If they are that generous, they can volunteer.

I am a White Bird Clinic front desk person and volunteer three or four times a month doing that. I've worked as a volunteer cook at a hospice, volunteered removing invasive plants like English Ivy in the parks, will fix poor people's bicycles for the cost of parts, and many other things.

All your proposal would do is undercut the job base in general, and so if an emploer wants to buy labor, this law is important to keep down the exploitation of people by her or him.

What if my construction company agrees to hire my brothers' boys to clean-up aound the site and learn some skills. These nephews are great kids, but I've got a business to run and have no time for babysitting.

If you want to hire somewhat in house like this, more power to you. But again, the range of excuses to undercut the job base availible out there should not be undercut like this.

The job is still under the aupices of worker's comp and unemployment insurance. The liablities and protections should not be removed, and are dependent on the establishment of a minimum wage.

If you want to pay someone 'sous la table' and are willing to risk the liablity of a law suit if they are injured, or you are caught by authorities violating laws regarding who should do the work, what their qualifications should be to do the work, or how the work is done, you take a risk I would not take. It's as simple as that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2013-03-04   20:48:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

"If you want to pay someone 'sous la table' and are willing to risk the liablity of a law suit if they are injured, or you are caught by authorities violating laws regarding who should do the work, what their qualifications should be to do the work, or how the work is done, you take a risk I would not take. It's as simple as that."

Now, Mike, let's say I agree with your reasoning here...my question is why do we need to make these decisions/mandates at the Federal level? A good-hearted volunteer like yerself has got to realize that these growing social needs are not to be best addressed with a one-size-fits-all bueaucRATic nightmare like DeeCee has become. Devolve Power--and Responsibilities--to the States...you'll be impressed...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2013-03-05   0:01:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)

A good-hearted volunteer like yerself has got to realize that these growing social needs are not to be best addressed with a one-size-fits-all bueaucRATic nightmare like DeeCee has become.

You're wasting your breath MUD, he hasn't figured out yet that "government" is causing all these problems and have no intention of solving them!!

CZ82  posted on  2013-03-05   17:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82, meguro (#30)

"...tell them what your political affiliation is!!"

That's easy...I'm a libertarian Independent...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2013-03-06   6:26:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#38. To: Mudboy Slim (#34)

That's easy...I'm a libertarian Independent...MUD

So.... does that mean you weren't in favor of our last two Neocon wars?

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