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Published: Feb 22, 2013
Author: golden0rock
Post Date: 2013-02-22 20:49:33 by calcon
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#20. To: meguro (#18)
Is reading comprehension a problem for all of you bag handlers, or is it just you?
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
I am used to people being as fucked up in opinion on homosexuality as you are being here You're right, I should have said dick sucker. I don't care a bit about homosexuality. To me personally, it's a disgusting perversion, but if some man wants to take another man up his ass and then in his mouth, that's his business. As long as it doesn't affect me, I don't care. I'm not even against gay marriage. Again, as long as it doesn't affect me, I could not care less. In fact I think a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage would conflict with the equal protections clause of the 14th. Now, with all that said, the reason I like to give this particular dick sucker a hard time, is because this particular dick sucker uses his own homosexuality as a weapon, propositioning other men on political forums if he thinks he can gain an upper hand or advantage. This particular dick sucker is a scum bag.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Not all male homosexuals have oral sex. Not all of them have anal sex. You speak as if he definately does both, which presumes too much. I have no problem at all with homosexuality whether it is latent or practiced. To me, it is merely a normal variation of human sexuality, nothing more.
That isn't good enough. If Johnhy murders Jill it may not affect you directly but it still affects you. What if everyone said I could care less if it doesn't affect me. Then we would have anarchy. If carried out to the extreme. Caving into perverts because they get mouthy and want to pretend to be married may not personally affect you right now. But if the nation does continue on its insane death spiral and this fiction happens it will be to all of our detriment. Having said something about that little bit I would have to say I agree with most everything else you said.
Mike you are amoral. Was your dad there for you Mike when you were little? Not saying thins to be mean but you have a lot of feminine qualities and you have a sissy point of view.
He likes brown sugar. Edit: Wow, Stoned, you changed your entire post.
No weeps. Is writing prose a problem for you?
Ah, are you jealous because I didn't proposition you, weeps?
Stone is very immature. Stone is very vindictive and shallow. Stone does not rate a response from me for his rediculous post. Thanks Fred for shining light on his vicious and amoral racist opinions and attitude.
Must have been after he took the second bong hit.
I am proud and honored to stand up for what is right in the face of bait and hate on this issue. Those that would make this a wedge issue to try to marginalize people over a minor aspect of their humanity no more noteworthy than say whether one has brown or blue eyes or any other human attribute do as shallow and mean spirited cowards who deserve pity and scorn, nothing more. They try to steal social status, to knock others down to try to make themselves look taller without having to grow as human beings themselves. I really pity them.
Why? You would just want to have me banned wherever that somewhere or anywhere is.... Since you still think I'm Lucy.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Mike, God doesn't look upon homosexuality and lesbianism as a minor thing. The Holy Bible makes that quite clear. It is true that sin covers a wide range of thoughts and deeds. It is also true that all sins condemn a person to an eternity in The Lake of Fire. I really wish that you would take a good look at yourself and the mercy of God.
Don you should know by now that those of the Faux Enlightenment crowd don't care what God or anybody else says... It's all about what "THEY" think, not what really is...
When some dumb bastard hates you for no good reason then give them one, tell them what your political affiliation is!!
I know that people won't respond to the gospel unless the Holy Spirit calls them. I think that it won't be long until the day when many will wish with all of their heart that they had listened. They won't have an excuse for what will happen to them. They will deserve the Lake of Fire and they will have all eternity to think about those who spoke to them about avoiding where they are. Remember the story about Lazarus and the Rich Man. The Rich Man wanted Lazarus to fetch him some water. It couldn't be done for the Rich Man and it can't be done for those who think lightly of Christ and His Salvation. (Luke 16: 20-31) 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Yet according to your own Bible you are committing a sin, by pretending to know what God wants and thinks. And why would God punish humans for merely being created in his own image? Sounds like he has a rather satanic sense of humor. Plus the only individual Jesus says he loves in the Bible is a ....man.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Jesus included women on His journey. Some of them were women He had healed of various ills, including demon possession. He addressed women in public when His culture didn’t permit an Orthodox Jew to even speak to his own wife while out and about. Jesus always treated women with dignity and respect, using examples of women in His teaching and parables, as He taught along the way. There were women who had been torn to pieces with demons or incurable maladies that Jesus had healed. There were lonely people who needed listening to, desperate people who were abused in their marriages, or widows with no means of support to comfort, encourage, and serve. The Bible says that some of the women mentioned in Lk. 8:1-4 who traveled with Jesus were influential, prominent women who were “helping to support Him out of their own means.” Jesus loved women as much as He loved men. He came to die for them and included them in His ministry. He showed women were worth creating, redeeming, gifting, and blessing. Women were first at His birth, last at His cross, first to see Jesus after He rose from the dead, and first to tell of His resurrection. There are many verses in the bible that say we are to 'hate sin', and this includes 'homosexuality', 'man lying down with man'. Jesus said 'love your neighbor as yourself'. Jesus ate and dined with sinners, men, and women, Jesus 'loved them all', but 'hated their sins'. Leviticus 20:13 - ("If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination") Jesus loved women as much as he loved man, and no amount of malicious blasphemy, and filthy innuendos you post, or anyone else spreads about Him, none of it will ever change Him into anything other than what He was, the 'Son of God'! JMHO! rant off!
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
All I have to do to know God's take on this thing, I merely need to read the Scriptures. Not knowing what God wants isn't a defense for you or anyone who fear to face God on Judgement. God made man in His image, true. He didn't make them sin in the Garden of Eden. You can't use that as an excuse either. You are saying that God is gay? No, that won't work as an excuse for you either. Christ died because He loves mankind, His Creation, not because He was perverted. That won't work for you either. You aren't doing too well here. You have run out of excuses, and that will be apparent to you when you face Christ on the Day of Judgement.
There is no 11th commandment saying a thing about homosexuality. And the few passages mentioned are open to interpretation. Homosexuality in an imprinting of preference for sexual partner that merely defines who a person is and whom they have relationships with. It has always been part of humanity, involves no victims and is not open to 'recruitment.' I am not Christain anyway Don. Never will be one either, and I will never change my opinion on this topic. I am quite secure in the knowledge that I am right on this topic. So save your breathm and I hope you are the one who develops insight in the issue.
God invented - created - perfected - sanctified human heterosexuality man made evolution - homosexuality is where it went wrong !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Here is my favorite department store to shop at these days. ;-)
You are the minority queer.
Mike, God doesn't look upon homosexuality and lesbianism as a minor thing. The Holy Bible makes that quite clear. It is true that sin covers a wide range of thoughts and deeds. It is also true that all sins condemn a person to an eternity in The Lake of Fire. I really wish that you would take a good look at yourself and the mercy of God. Don, what is the reason why homosexuality is such a sin? Has god ever spelled it out to you? Or is it just... because?
You are the minority queer. No, he's not. You are, homophobe.
I don't know if pussyphobes should post here. I mean this is a place for good moral people not degenerates.
I like my cat very much, so who can explain this hysterical outburst claming I don't? I know Stonie loves to call Black people all sorts of racist and derogatory names, but surely he's not stupid enough to use a street epithet to slight a majority, or is he? There are statistically more women than men in the human population and they don't like being called this. Perhaps if Stonie takes two Midol and gets a good night sleep he will possibly be less hysterical then this in the morning; or perhaps not if he is consistent in his immature and intemperate behavior patterns online as is likely to be the case here.
Some people claim that homosexual behavior was only condemned in the Bible because it was associated with idolatry (e.g. "1 Kings 14:24). However, it is clearly condemned apart from idolatry as well (e.g. Leviticus 18:22). It is described in Scripture as an 'unnatural, immoral perversion'. "For even their women 'exchanged the natural' use for what is 'against nature'. Likewise also the men, 'leaving the natural use of the woman', burned in their lust for one another…” (Romans 1:26-27). (“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
They don't need one because they don't think it will happen to them, same old tired worn out story... But they will definitely kick and scream like little girls all the while saying "What did I do, what did I do"..
When some dumb bastard hates you for no good reason then give them one, tell them what your political affiliation is!!
Isn't J.C. Penny going bankrupt? You may have to find another store.
Reality can be an eye opening experience. In this case, the kicking and screaming may well be true. I would not want it.
God describes homosexuality as an abomination, which is sufficient for me. What God calls an abomination is a thing best left alone. God created man and woman as companions and a means of reproduction for the human race. That is the normal way of life prescribed by God. Rebellion toward God isn't very wise. He is not amused by such things.
Mike, I do have insight about this matter. I know that God exists and He rules over His Creation. Many say that God doesn't exist because He Isn,t in our face about sin at the moment. That He will tire of sin in His Creation Isn't something He has forgotten or will overlook. He is giving us time to repent. This time of waiting for mankind, or individuals time, is mercy on His part. God has already sent Christ to mankind as a peace offering or way back to Him. Rejection of Christ is a most efficient way to become a citizen of the Lake of Fire for all of eternity.
I respect your right to your religion, but I am not interested is a system of control that exists only to manage human populations at the expense of the sanctity and protection of all plant and animal life on this planet. To Christianity, the right of rich to abuse and destroy entire biological biomes is absolute. Their right to abuse and oppress poor people absolute. To Christianity, there is no need to worry about what happens in the here and now; just who goes where when they die. I am in no way ever going to fall for the con game religions like Christianity is involved in. I want to value and protect all living things and the webs of life; the biomes they live in. I want to address oppression of poor people by the rich and powerful now on planet Earth. I do not buy the notion that they are protected because oppressors will go to some place named Hell eventually. I do not buy or am impressed by the con game your religion represents. When the tapestry of life is unraveled to a large extent, we as a species endanger our collective existence too. And in regards to one class exploiting and oppressing the other, if we cannot ultimately help the many who are poor, we cannot save the few who are rich.
On Items 1 and 2, I don't know how to respond as I truly don't know what you are talking about. The Christians I know are concerned about the here and now. We know that we are to live as much as possible to honor and glorify God by our actions and way of life. Yes, we are concerned about what happens in the afterlife. We do try to show people here the way to eternal life in a place far better than Hell. Why should we try to educate people about how they are to live as Christians if they aren't Christian. The lost can die at any time and it will be too late for them then. So yes, we do push accepting Christ as savior because that is the most immediate need for them. The here and now things can wait until they are Christian. There are people who think that true Christianity, not the tv preachers who want you to send them money,is a con job because of the people who are in the preaching business simply to make money. You talk about helping the poor. Many churches and other charities do things for the poor. The most important thing that we can do for them is show them the way to life with Christ in the here and now and the afterlife. To show you better what I am talking about, let me refer you to these verses, Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 6:32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Men wrote the Bible, not a god. With all due respect, I am not interested in reading quotes from that text.
You're a LIAR, Mike, and not very good at it either. You sit there and claim to respect a persons right to their religion, then come onto these threads you also claim you are not interested in and then proceed to smear their faith and love for Him and all his blessing and teachings. Denying God and blaming christians, or religions for the ills of the world will not save you, and no amount of self rightious finger pointing by you will save you in the end either, nor will your outragious accusations condemn those you attack. You are answerable for your actions alone, as each of us are answerable for ours, it's an individual thing. When you, or I, eventually stand before Him on judgement day, we will stand alone for our own sins and how we dealt with the sorrows and suffering we encountered in this world, He will not take into account the blame you try to lay on others, it will be what you did, or did not do that He will focus on. JMHO!
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
Of course he is a liar. He worships Satan. He is obviously a closeted homosexual and very confused. You can tell that by all the pervert propaganda he posts. I was thinking Murron. If the Supreme court usurps marriage and claims it is between a man and a woman. If that happens I will ban all fags from this site.
That would be a sad day indeed, not that I ever cared if gays married, or not, but their radicalism will not stop there, it's just another nail in the coffin of christianity and trying to raise our children in homes with traditional family values. When this government goes that far, they have declared open war, and I speak only for my self, gays have what they want, but our children and gr- children are 'OFF LIMITS', to do otherwise is just asking to get hurt, or worse, that's no threat, but a promise! To be honest, I hate to see anyone banned from posting here, but there is a line of tolerance I personally would not allow on a forum if I were owner of a conservative site. Gays would NOT be given a soap box in which to demean and smear the word of God, and post filthy gay accussations about Jesus. There are thousands, maybe more, of forums out there where a gay person, or those who sympathize with them can go to vent their vile venom towards Christianity and the Bible and what they think the world owes them, but I don't think it's the smartest thing to give them their own sounding board on conservative sites, nothing will ever be resolved when both sides stand firm on their convictions. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, but radical homosexual agendas have NO RIGHTS on private conservative forums, if the owner chooses. There are a few fellows here with pretty good sense of humor and may think it would be wrong to ban gays, they have fun with them as you see, it's a game mostly, but if you will notice, you've lost quite a few conservative members who have never come back. It's your call, but I for one have no stomach for debating with gays everyday, my family values and God's word on the subject is final, and hounding a person on the issue day after day on a supposed conservative site will never change my mind, but it will give me pause to wonder why I have stuck around for so long. JMHO!
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
Which will end as soon as you discover one of your grandkids is gay.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Reading comprehension is not your strong point. Constantine converted to Christianity and promoted it in the Roman Empire because he saw it as a good vehicle to promote a religious system of control. He also issued the Edict of Milan in 313, which proclaimed tolerance of all religions throughout the empire. I support freedom of or from religion, and it is intolerable to oppress any religion in this country. And this principle is ensconced in the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. My religious beliefs are my religious beliefs. Merely to have them is not a slam of Christianity, Judaism, Islam or any other religious belief, ir even lack of one.
I most certainly do not live or die by your delusional thinking. And your post is meant to try to rattle my cage more than it is an answer to Murron. That is something beyond your means to do.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestBTW, dumb ass, how can I be both flaming and in the closet?
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
Closet queen? When someone is open about a triviality such as their sexual preference, they are not in any closet.
#22. To: We The People, Meguro (#21)
#23. To: We The People (#21)
Again, as long as it doesn't affect me, I could not care less.
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
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#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)
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#26. To: We The People (#20)
BTW, dumb ass, how can I be both flaming and in the closet? Is reading comprehension a problem for all of you bag handlers, or is it just you?
#27. To: We The People (#21)
Now, with all that said, the reason I like to give this particular dick sucker a hard time, is because this particular dick sucker uses his own homosexuality as a weapon, propositioning other men on political forums if he thinks he can gain an upper hand or advantage.
#28. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
#29. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
#30. To: meguro (#29)
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"To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men". ~ Ella Wheeler Wilcox
#31. To: We The People (#15)
And if only you could fit in... somewhere, anywhere.
#32. To: Ferret Mike (#30)
#33. To: Don (#32)
Mike, God doesn't look upon homosexuality and lesbianism as a minor thing. The Holy Bible makes that quite clear.
#34. To: CZ82 (#33)
#35. To: Don (#32)
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Mike, God doesn't look upon homosexuality and lesbianism as a minor thing. The Holy Bible makes that quite clear. It is true that sin covers a wide range of thoughts and deeds. It is also true that all sins condemn a person to an eternity in The Lake of Fire. I really wish that you would take a good look at yourself and the mercy of God.
#36. To: mininggold, Don (#35)
"Plus the only individual Jesus says he loves in the Bible is a ....man."
#37. To: mininggold (#35)
#38. To: Don (#32)
"Mike, God doesn't look upon homosexuality and lesbianism as a minor thing."
#39. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
#40. To: Don (#37)
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
#42. To: Don (#32)
#43. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#41)
#44. To: meguro (#43)
#45. To: A K A Stone, meguro (#44)
"...pussyphobes..."
#46. To: meguro, Don (#42)
(Edited)
Don, what is the reason why homosexuality is such a sin? Has god ever spelled it out to you? Or is it just... because?
#47. To: Don (#34)
They won't have an excuse for what will happen to them.
#48. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
#49. To: CZ82 (#47)
#50. To: Murron, me giro (#46)
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
#52. To: Don (#51)
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#52)
#54. To: Don (#53)
#55. To: Ferret Mike (#52)
I respect your right to your religion, but I am not interested is a system of control that exists only to manage human populations at the expense of the sanctity and protection of all plant and animal life on this planet.
#56. To: Murron (#55)
#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)
If the Supreme court usurps marriage and claims it is between a man and a woman. If that happens I will ban all fags from this site.
#58. To: Murron (#57)
It's your call, but I for one have no stomach for debating with gays everyday, my family values and God's word on the subject is final, and hounding a person on the issue day after day on a supposed conservative site will never change my mind, but it will give me pause to wonder why I have stuck around for so long. JMHO!
#59. To: Murron (#55)
#60. To: A K A Stone (#56)
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