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Title: Gun Rights: Are There Any Peaceful Solutions Left?
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Published: Feb 15, 2013
Author: Brandon Smith
Post Date: 2013-02-15 10:20:19 by Hondo68
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Views: 9408
Comments: 23
Throughout history, citizen disarmament generally leads to one of two inevitable outcomes: Government tyranny and genocide, or, revolution and civil war. Anti-gun statists would, of course, argue that countries like the UK and Australia have not suffered such a result. My response would be – just give them time. You may believe that gun control efforts are part and parcel of a totalitarian agenda (as they usually are), or, you may believe that gun registration and confiscation are a natural extension of the government’s concern for our “safety and well-being”. Either way, the temptation of power that comes after a populace is made defenseless is almost always too great for any political entity to dismiss. One way or another, for one reason or another, they WILL take advantage of the fact that the people have no leverage to determine their own cultural future beyond a twisted system of law and governance which is, in the end, easily corrupted. The unawake and the unaware among us will also argue that revolution or extreme dissent against the establishment is not practical or necessary, because the government “is made of regular people like us, who can be elected or removed at any time”. 
This is the way a Republic is supposed to function, yes. However, the system we have today has strayed far from the methods of a Free Republic and towards the machinations of a single party system. Our government does NOT represent the common American anymore. It has become a centralized and Sovietized monstrosity. A seething hydra with two poisonous heads; one Democrat in name, one Republican in name. Both heads feed the same bottomless stomach; the predatory and cannibalistic pit of socialized oligarchy.
On the Republican side, we are offered Neo-Con sharks like George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney, who argue for “conservative” policies such as limited government interference and reduced spending, all while introducing legislation which does the exact opposite. The recent passage of the “Safe Act” in New York with extensive Republican support proves that Republicans cannot be counted on to defend true conservative values.
The Democrats get candidates like John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, who claim to be anti-war and against government abuse of civil liberties, and yet, these same “progressive and compassionate” politicians now froth at the mouth like rabid dogs sinking their teeth into the flesh of the citizenry, expanding on every tyrannical initiative the Republicans began, and are bombing more civilian targets in more foreign countries than anyone with a conscience should be able to bear.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; the government is not our buddy. It is not our ally or friend. It is not a “part of us”. It is now a separate and dangerous entity. A parasite feeding off the masses. It has become a clear threat to the freedoms of average Americans. It is time for the public to grow up, snap out of its childish delusions, and accept that there is no solace or justice to be found anymore in Washington D.C.
Once we understand this fact, a question then arises – What do we do about it? If we cannot redress our grievances through the election process because both parties favor the same authoritarian direction, and if our street protests are utterly ignored by the mainstream media and the establishment, and if civil suits do nothing but drag on for years with little to no benefit, then what is left for us? Is the way of the gun the only answer left for the American people at this crossroads?
I cannot deny that we are very close to such a conclusion. Anyone who does deny it is living in a candy coated fantasy land. However, there are still certain options that have not been exhausted, and we should utilize them if for no other reason than to maintain the moral high ground while the power elite continue to expose their own despotic innards.
State And County Nullification
The assertion of local authority in opposition to federal tyranny is already being applied across the country. Multiple states, counties, and municipalities are issuing declarations of defiance and passing legislation which nullifies any future federal incursions against 2nd Amendment protections. For instance, the Gilberton Borough Council in PA in conjunction with Police Chief Mark Kessler has recently adopted a resolution defending all 2nd Amendment rights within their municipal borders up to and including the denial of operations by federal officers:
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/02/03/first-molon-labe-town-in-america/
Approximately 283 county Sheriffs and multiple police officers have taken a hard stand, stating that they will either not aid federal enforcement officials with gun control related activities, or, that they will not allow such activities within their county, period:
http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
This trend of dissent amongst law enforcement officials debunks the nihilistic view promoted by disinformation agents that “no one in law enforcement will have the guts to stand up to the government no matter how sour it turns”. It has also shaken the Obama Administration enough that the White House is struggling to counter it by wining and dining police unions and sheriffs departments in order to form their own “coalition of the willing”. Obama seems to believe that holding press conferences using children or police as background props will somehow earn him political capital in the battle for gun rights, but I have my doubts:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-asks-police-help-pass-183056466.html
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55716645-90/com-congress-doing-enforcement.html.csp
Multiple states have legislation on the table to nullify as well, and it would seem that the violent push by the establishment to extinguish the 2nd Amendment has actually sharply rekindled the public’s interest in States Rights and the 10th Amendment.
This does not mean, though, that we should rely on nullification alone. While the gun grabbers are stumbling into severe resistance at the national level, some representatives are attempting to supplant gun rights at the state level, including New York, California, Washington State, and Missouri. The goal here is obvious; counter states rights arguments by using anti-gun legislators to impose federal controls through the back door of state legislation.
They will claim that if we support states rights, then we have to abide by the decisions of regions like New York when they ban and confiscate firearms. It’s sad how gun grabbers lose track of reality. Neither federal authority, nor state authority, supplants the legal barriers of the Constitution itself, meaning, no federal or local authority has the right or power to remove our freedom of speech, our freedom of assembly, our freedom of privacy, OR our freedom to own firearms (including firearms of military utility). The Constitution and the Bill of Rights supersede all other legal and political entities (including treaties, as ruled by the Supreme Court). At least, that’s what the Founding Fathers intended when they established this nation. The point is, a state is well within its rights to defy the Federal Government if it is enacting unconstitutional abuses, and the people are well within their rights to defy a state when it does the same.
Economic Nullification
There is actually a fantastic economic opportunity to be had by states and counties that nullify gun control legislation. Many gun manufacturers and retail businesses are facing financial oblivion if the establishment has its way, and moving operations outside the U.S. is not necessarily practical for most of them (gun manufacturing is one of the last business models we still do better than the rest of the world). Municipalities could offer safe haven to these businesses, allowing them to continue producing firearms and high capacity magazines, fulfill expanding public demand, and create a surging cash flow into their area while at the same time giving the federal government the finger.
This strategy does not come without dangers, though. Many states and counties are addicted to federal funding, and some would go bankrupt without it. The obvious first response by the feds to protesting local governments will be to cut off the river of cash and starve them into subservience.
This brand of internal financial warfare can be countered by local governments by nullifying a few other unconstitutional regulations, including those issued by the EPA and the BLM. States and counties could easily disable federal land development restrictions and begin using resource development as a means to generate supplemental income. North Dakota is essentially doing this right now in the Bakken Oil Fields, becoming one of the few states in America that is actually creating legitimate high paying jobs (instead of part time wage slave jobs), and growing more prosperous every year.
This tactic is not limited to state governments either. Counties also have the ability, with the right officials involved, to regain control of their economic destinies anytime they want. All it takes is the courage to rock the establishment boat.
Refuse All Registration Schemes
National firearms registration and gun databases are almost always followed by full gun confiscation. The process is usually done in a standardized manner: First demand extensive registration and cataloging of gun owners. Second, ban more effective styles of weaponry, including semi-automatics and high capacity rifles (Let the sport hunters keep their bolt actions for a time, and lure them onto your side with the promise that they will get to keep their .270 or their 30-06). Then take all semi-auto handguns. Then, ban high powered magnum style bolt actions by labeling them “sniper rifles”. Then demand that the gun owners that still remain allow official “inspections” of their home by law enforcement to ensure that they are “storing their weapons properly”. Then, force them to move those weapons to a designated “warehouse or range”, locked away for any use other than recreational shooting. Then, when the public is thoroughly disconnected from their original right to bear arms, take everything that’s left.
Keep in mind that the federal government and certain state governments are acting as if they would like to skip ALL of the preliminary steps and go straight to full confiscation. I am not discounting that possibility. But, they may feign certain concessions in the near term in order to get the one thing they really want – full registration.
Registration must be the line in the sand for every single gun owner in this country, whether they own several semi-automatics, or one pump action shotgun. Once you give in to being registered, fingerprinted, photographed, and tracked wherever you decide to live like a convicted sexual predator, you have shown that you have no will or spirit. You have shown that you will submit to anything.
After a full registration has been enacted, every gun (and maybe every bullet) will be tracked. If confiscation is utilized, they know exactly what you have and what you should not have, and exactly where you are. Criminals will still acquire weapons illegally, as they always have. The only people who will suffer are law abiding citizens. It’s a recipe for dictatorship and nothing more.
Gun Barter Networks
The retail firearms and ammo markets are Sahara dry right now, and will probably remain that way in the foreseeable future. Anything that is available for purchase is usually twice the price it was last year. Extremely high demand is removing retail from the picture before any legislation is even passed. Enter barter…
Cash will remain a bargaining tool for as long as the dollar remains the world reserve currency and holds at least some semblance of value (this will end sooner than most people think). That said, as gun items become scarce, the allure of cash may be supplanted. The signs of this are already evident.
Gun owners are now looking more to trade firearms and accessories for OTHER firearms and accessories, because they know that once they sell an item, they may never see it again, and the usefulness of cash is fleeting. Gun Barter is not only a way for firearms enthusiasts to get what they need, it is also a way for them to move around any future gun sale restrictions that may arise. Private gun sales are legal in some states, but do not count on this to last. Barter leaves no paper trail, and thus, no traceable evidence of transaction. For those who fear this idea as “legally questionable”, all I can do is remind them that an unconstitutional law is no law at all. If it does not adhere to the guidelines of our founding principles, our founding documents, and our natural rights, then it is just a bunch of meaningless words on a meaningless piece of paper signed by a meaningless political puppet.
3D Printing And Home Manufacturing
3D Printing is now available to the public and for those with the money, I recommend they invest quickly. Unless the establishment wants to make the possession of these printers illegal, as well as shut down the internet, there will be no way to stop data streamers from supplying the software needed to make molds for every conceivable gun part, including high capacity mags. This technology has been effectively promoted by the Wiki Weapons Project:
http://defensedistributed.com/
According to current ATF law, the home manufacture of gun parts is not technically illegal, as long as they are not being produced for sale. But in a state or county where federal gun laws have been nullified, what the ATF says is irrelevant.
Home manufacturing of gun parts and ammo would be a highly lucrative business in such safe haven areas. And, the ability to build one’s own self defense platform is a vital skill in a sparse market environment. The ultimate freedom is being able to supply your own needs without having to ask for materials or permission from others. It should be the goal of every pro-gun activist to reach this independence.
Force The Establishment To Show Its True Colors
While some in the general public may be incensed by the trampling of our freedoms by government, many (including myself) would view direct action and aimless French Revolution-style violence as distasteful and disastrous. The moral high ground is all that any dissenting movement has. It will be hard enough to keep this ground with the constant demonization of liberty minded people that is being espoused by propaganda peddlers like the SPLC and numerous media outlets. We do not need to help them do their jobs.
Now, to be clear, I have NO illusions that the above strategies will defuse a confrontation between those who value freedom, and those who desire power. The hope is that enough people within our population will refuse to comply, and that this will make any future despotism impossible to construct. However, it is far more likely that these acts of defiance will elicit a brutal response from the government. And in a way, that is exactly what we want…
The Founding Fathers went through steps very similar to those I listed above and more to counter the tightening grip of the British Empire during the first American Revolution. The idea is simple:
Peacefully deny the corrupt system’s authority over your life by supplying your own needs and your own security, rather than lashing out blindly. Force them to show their true colors. Expose their dishonor and maliciousness. Make them come after you like the predators they are, and then, once they can no longer play the role of the “defending hero” in the eyes of the public, use your right to self defense to send them a message they won’t forget.
Skeptics will claim that physical defense is useless against a technologically advanced enemy. They will claim that we need a "majority" we do not have in order to prevail. These are usually people who have never fought for anything in their lives. They do not understand that the “odds” are unimportant. They mean nothing. No revolution for good ever begins with "majority support". Each is fought by a minority of strong willed and aware individuals. When all other methods of protest have been dismantled, the system leaves us with only two options: stand and fight, or kneel and beg for mercy. All you need to know is what YOU would do when faced with that choice.
There is no other culture on earth that has the capacity, like Americans currently do, to defeat centralists, defend individual liberty, and end the pursuit of total global power in this lifetime. We are the first and last line. If freedom is undone here, it is undone everywhere for generations to come. This is our responsibility. This is our providence. There can be no complacency. There can be no compromise. There can be no fear. It ends on this ground. One way, or another…
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration Good news -- it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms. It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c. According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot use doctors to collect "any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition." CNN is calling it "a gift to the nation's powerful gun lobby." And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that's exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010.
Chris Dorner says Hello....;}
No. The day is going to come when the majority of us are going to have to make the decision to pick up our rifles and go into politics,or we will have NO rights left at all of any kind other than the right to obey orders. It's one or the other because there can be no compromise between a people who want to live free and a government peopled by those who want everyone enslaved as servants following their orders. It's up to each of us to make up our minds who we want future generations of Americans to live because the globalists who consider themselves to be royalty are already wealthy and will never give up their grab for the ultimate power.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Chris Dorner says Hello..... ;}
Police bullets and flames said goodbye to him already.
Shot himself. And Dorner saved alot of lives in S Cal. Take awhile for LAPD/San Bernardino to get their swagger back. ;}
He was the poster boy for your gun crazy movement, yet you still diss him. Do you think it involves only whites? LOLOL You gun nuts again prove you are too stupid to live.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You gun nuts again prove you are too stupid to live. That is why Mcgoof and you champion him. That is why he is an Obama fan and an Elen the degenerate fan. He is a leftist wacko pig from Californication.
That is why he is an Obama fan and an Elen the degenerate fan. He is a leftist wacko pig from Californicati So Obama fans aren't allowed to settle their grievances with a gun? Are you saying that only RWnut jobs are allowed to do this? If he voted for Mitt, and loved Teddy pooopy pants you would then support his way of dealing with his grievances? It appeared he was only doing the vigilante work that you guys brag about but are too scared to do.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Here is what I am saying. First get your dictionary out so you can maybe understand what I am saying. Dorner or whatever his name was killed innocent people with a gun. That makes him a murderer. Conservatives such as myself know what you liberals are about. You are for normalizing mental ilness. You are for murdering children. You are for stealing from the productive to give to make the poor lazy. You're not right in the head. Knowing that and the violence your side visits on the most vulnerable. It is prudent for normal good Americans to arm up against you degenerates just in case. You might think it was really kool that Hitler killed lots of defenseless Jews. But the American conservatives aren't dumb enough to let the new Kenyan Hitler do the same to us. You personally probably mean well and think you are doing good. But that doesn't mean the smart and moral people of society have to entertain your mental illnesses and delusions. Rand Paul 2016.
Like I said you are mentally ill. Killing innocent cops is not the solution.
.........Blah blah blah You guys are always talking about starting the next revolution. Do you really "think" innocents will not be harmed by your guns. You constantly demonstrate that you don't even know what conservatism or even the Bible is about. So how could you ever know what liberalism is about?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
He was doing the work you would be vigilantes are too scared to do.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Obama voters aren't innocents. ;)
The democratic liberal platform says murdering your children is one of the best things you can do. The satanic democratic platform says queers are normal people and they should be the first choice when you are looking for a babysitter.
Yes there are. Everyone who actually earns a living today just needs to stop working. No more gas, food, cloths, etc. Just stop. It would take three or four days to change the entire direction of the country away from the lazy government bureaucrats and towards the people who actually make America work. Who has enough credibility and enough cajones to organize this? No one that I can see. That's the problem.
Then why does the GOP run a known abortion supporter like Mitt and have multiple gay blades like Lady Lindsay as their foot soldiers?. But you need to remember that the only INDIVIDUAL that Jesus said he directly loved was a MAN.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
The satanic democratic platform says queers are normal people and they should be the first choice when you are looking for a babysitter." You never get anything correct when you speak of the Democrats. The Democratic platform leaves judgement of whether to get an abortion up to the pregnant woman. And on Democratic Underground, a large proportion of posters who are Democrats lean on the side of not liking abortion, but not liking the histronics of people like you what would kill anyone associated with the practice, then claim you are pro-life as you dream of spilling blood. And the Democratic platform does not specifically mention babysitters, but calls for an end to discrimination against people over trivialities such as the sexual preference of consenting adults. You are an example of why the GOP lost the popular vote in five of six presidential elections in recent decades, and why it will continue to become more isolated and less relivant to the American voter.
Everyone who actually earns a living today just needs to stop working. No more gas, food, cloths, etc. Just stop. Knock yourself out scooter! "Who has enough credibility and enough cajones to organize this? " YOU DO!!! Go for it! Take you van down by the river and become a hobo - that's your solution? You're a goddamn laugh riot!
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~JFK Keep yucking it up, but don't be surprised when you and Obama start a violent revolution, and you get popped by one of Piers guests, like the psycho sportscaster Buzz Bissinger. It could have been done peacefully, but NO you insist on a bloody revolution. Be careful what you wish for...
Why do you even bother with that imbecile?
Why do I bother with the 'Ed Woods' of forum running wannabes? That is a good question. Stone has a schadenfreude* aspect to him where he really enjoys mocking and belittling those he feels falls short in the Radical Rightwing Wingnut circles. He does this in a way that makes watching him lost in is own little world of self rightious hubris always a wonder that he can't see the obvious; that he is his cause's own worst enemy. One rarely convinces someone like him of anything. So, I use him a foil to hone my own opinions and thought on issues. I also don't let him pull my strings. As a forum participant online since 1995 in many places over these years I have an extremely thick skin, and even the ability to still have sympathy for how he is so lost in a deep sense of self rightious and obnoxious behavior that it usually hurts him or his advocacies more than anyone else. *This is enjoyment obtained from the real or percieved troubles of others; a word in the German language with no English equivalent.
#2. To: whyofcourse. A K A Stone, All (#1)
#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#2)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)
#6. To: mcgowanjm (#5)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
flames said goodbye to him already.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)
(Edited)
Police bullets and flames said goodbye to him already.
#9. To: mininggold (#8)
He was the poster boy for your gun crazy movement, yet you still diss him. Do you think it involves only whites? LOLOL
#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)
That is why Mcgoof and you champion him.
#11. To: mininggold (#10)
So Obama fans aren't allowed to settle their grievances with a gun?
#12. To: mininggold (#10)
It appeared he was only doing the vigilante work that you guys brag about but are too scared to do.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)
Dorner or whatever his name was killed innocent people with a gun. That makes him a murderer........
#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)
Like I said you are mentally ill. Killing innocent cops is not the solution.
#15. To: mininggold (#13)
You guys are always talking about starting the next revolution. Do you really "think" innocents will not be harmed by your guns.
#16. To: mininggold (#13)
You constantly demonstrate that you don't even know what conservatism or even the Bible is about. So how could you ever know what liberalism is about?
#17. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
Are There Any Peaceful Solutions Left?
#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)
(Edited)
The satanic democratic platform says queers are normal people and they should be the first choice when you are looking for a babysitter.
#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)
"The democratic liberal platform says murdering your children is one of the best things you can do.
#20. To: ericbl (#17)
Yes there are.
#21. To: Jameson, ericbl, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#20)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#19)
You are an example of why the GOP lost the popular vote in five of six presidential elections in recent decades, and why it will continue to become more isolated and less relivant to the American voter.
#23. To: meguro (#22)
"Why do you even bother with that imbecile?"
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