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Title: Spying Too Secret For Your Court: AT&T, Gov Tell Ninth
Source: WIRED
URL Source: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/03/its_too_secret_.html
Published: Mar 13, 2007
Author: Posted by Ryan Singel
Post Date: 2007-03-13 14:02:04 by A K A Stone
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AT&T told an appeals court in a written brief Monday that the case against it for allegedly helping the government spy on its customers should be thrown out, because it cannot defend itself -- even by showing a signed order from the government -- without endangering national security.

A government brief filed simultaneously backed AT&T's claims and said a lower court judge had exceeded his authority by not dismissing the suit outright.

Because plaintiffs' entire action rests upon alleged secret espionage activities, including an alleged secret espionage relationship between AT&T and the Government concerning the alleged activities, this suit must be dismissed now as a matter of law," the government argued in its brief (.pdf).

The telecom giant and the government are appealing a June ruling in a federal district court that allowed the suit brought by the Electronic Frontier Foundation against the telecom to proceed, despite the government's invocation of a powerful tool called the "states secrets privilege," which allows it to have civil cases dismissed when national secrets are involved.

California Northern District Court Chief Judge Vaughn Walker ruled, however, that since the government had admitted it was wiretapping Americans without a warrant and that AT&T had to be involved, the case could go forward tentatively. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals will hear the government and AT&Ts' appeal in the coming months.

"This case cannot and should not go forward where AT&T is disabled from responding to allegations or evidence tendered by the plaintiffs, and is therefore deprived of the ability to defend itself against potentially massive liability," AT&T's lawyers wrote in a brief (.pdf). "Moreover, as this Court has explained, although a dismissal in contexts like this one may appear 'harsh' for the individual plaintiffs, the 'greater public good,' and "ultimately the less harsh remedy," is the protection of military and intelligence secrets the release of which could harm the public's safety."

The suit, which relies heavily on documents provided to the rights group by former AT&T employee Mark Klein, alleges that AT&T helped the government spy on internet communications, data-mine domestic call records and listen in on phone calls without a warrant as required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The government, which says it has inherent constitutional powers to wiretap in the time of war, said in January it would stop the warrantless wiretapping of certain overseas phone calls and get warrants from the court it evaded.

AT&T also argues that all of lawsuit needs to be thrown out because the government has never admitted to spying on internet traffic and getting phone records. It has only admitted to wiretapping overseas communications where one end of the communication belongs to a person suspected of terrorist links. Since the EFF defendants say they aren't terrorists or communicate with terrorists, the only part of the spying that has been admitted -- and thus admissible in court -- doesn't apply to them, AT&T argues. Since the rest of the purported surveillance is thus secret the case has to be thrown out.

As to Plaintiffs' claims of harm from untargeted content surveillance, the government has not acknowledged the existence of any such program, and any information about the methods or targets of alleged government surveillance is unquestionably covered by Director Negroponte's invocation of the state secrets doctrine.

AT&T furthermore argues that the lower court's ruling that AT&t had to be involved due to the width of the surveillance program and the size of AT&T was an uninformed guess:

The district court used a chain of conjecture, hypothesis, and unwarranted inference to suggest that AT&T's alleged participation in these programs was not in fact a secret. The court, for instance, relied on its own unfounded and inexpert speculation that content surveillance requires the cooperation of a telecommunications provider.

EFF will file its response later this month, and will likely argue, as it already has in the district court, that Congressional officials have admitted that some of the nation's largest telecoms did turn over call record databases to the government, so that is not a secret either.

The appeals court has not yet set a date for oral arguments.

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Source: Associated Press - By SCOTT LINDLAW

SAN FRANCISCO — The federal government is urging an appeals court to dismiss a lawsuit challenging President Bush's domestic eavesdropping program, warning that disclosure of such activities could compromise national security.

"The suit's very subject matter — including the relationship, if any, between AT&T and the government in connection with the secret intelligence activities alleged by plaintiffs — is a state secret," the Justice Department argued in court papers.

The documents were filed late Friday and released Monday by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which brought the suit. It accuses AT&T Inc. of illegally making communications on its networks available to the National Security Agency without warrants, and challenges Bush's assertion that he could use his wartime powers to eavesdrop on Americans without a warrant.

The NSA had conducted the surveillance without a court warrant until January, when the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court began overseeing the program.

The court filings on Friday are part of the government's appeal of U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker's decision last year to keep the foundation's lawsuit alive. Walker ruled that warrantless eavesdropping has been so widely reported that there appears to be no danger of spilling secrets.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has not said when it will rule on whether Walker was correct to allow the case to proceed to trial.

AT&T, too, is seeking dismissal of the case and filed a brief that echoes the government's language.

Both the government and the telecommunications giant rely heavily upon a declaration last year by John Negroponte, then-director of national intelligence, that revealing information about the program could "cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States."

The foundation's standing to bring such a lawsuit cannot be established without disclosing "state secrets," the government and the company argue.

The plaintiffs do not have grounds to press such claims unless they can show "that AT&T in fact assisted in the alleged program, and that plaintiffs' own communications were in fact intercepted and accessed by the government under the alleged program," AT&T argued.

Moreover, the government said, the very merits of the case and whether it should be dismissed cannot be resolved in court because a "state secrets privilege" does not allow it.

The government also filed a classified brief Friday that was not released publicly.

Yes it is true...I am a thought criminal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2007-03-13   14:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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AT&T recently bought BellSouth. They will probably continue keeping rural areas oppressed by refusing to upgrade to DSL and high-speed Internet.

AT&T is a NWO monster. It also hates straight people and whites.

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side." --Ulysses S. Grant

cwrwinger  posted on  2007-03-13   14:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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