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Title: Will the Boy Scouts Move Their Tents Toward Sodom?
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Answers In Genesis
URL Source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/art ... /2013/02/07/boy-scouts-gay-ban
Published: Feb 10, 2013
Author: Steve Golden
Post Date: 2013-02-10 09:23:04 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 4204
Comments: 18
The Boy Scouts of America (B.S.A.), which only last summer confirmed its policy that kept homosexuals from joining, has now been debating the possibility of ending its ban on gay membership in the organization. On Wednesday, the organization announced that it is delaying its vote on the issue until May.1 The proposal, if passed in May as it is currently written, would take a sort of “middle ground” on the issue: the decision to admit openly gay members to the Boy Scouts would be left to individual troop leaders. Of course, leaving the decision up to individual troops would essentially be a non-answer from the Boy Scouts of America. What’s more, it would essentially serve as an affirmation of homosexual behavior as much as it would be if scout troops were forced to admit gay members. The organization, if it chooses the route of simply leaving the decision up to individual troops, will have given in to a false idea of neutrality. The B.S.A. will have bought into the idea that by not voicing its opposition to or support for homosexual behavior, it can avoid conflict and not force anyone to violate his beliefs. There really is no such thing as neutrality on the issue of homosexual behavior. The B.S.A.’s initial desire to hurry the vote is likely because the organization has been under tremendous pressure in the political climate of the past few years to give in to the demands of homosexual activists, while the delay is more likely due to the B.S.A.’s realization that it will lose a significant number of participants if the ban on gay members is lifted. If the proposal to pass the decision on to individual troops is adopted, the Boy Scouts of America will have at least partially capitulated to the schemes of the homosexual agenda—and its capitulation will be indicative of where the American culture as a whole is headed. A non-theistic, secular worldview is increasingly being imposed on society, and because it is antagonistic to the biblical worldview, it could hardly be neutral. The Presidential Agenda According to the official website of the B.S.A., the President of the United States is considered the honorary president of the Boy Scouts of America2 although the current president’s relationship with the organization has reportedly not been so honorable. President Barack Obama in a Sunday interview gave his support to the admission of gay members into the organization. In fact, he went a step further and said that he is favor of practicing homosexuals being admitted to “every institution” in society.3 Watch about a minute of the clip below for President Obama’s full answer. Does “every institution” include churches, Christian schools, and Christian institutions such as Answers in Genesis? It appears there will not be any boundaries to whatever vision he is proposing in that statement. Indeed, the agenda of the current administration will likely lead to an avalanche of compromise and a loss of religious freedom in the United States as a whole. Furthermore, since President Obama is the honorary president of the B.S.A. and is in favor of gay members in the Boy Scouts, it will certainly be difficult for the B.S.A. to stand in opposition to him. Compromise in Canada and the UK The Boy Scouts of America is a constituent member of the World Organization of the Scout Movement (W.O.S.M.). This larger, international organization is composed of scouting programs from around the world, including Scouts Canada and The Scout Association (UK). Scouts Canada, which is a co-ed scouting organization, deals with the issue of homosexual members in the FAQs section of its website. In response to the question, “Are homosexuals allowed to join Scouts Canada?” the organization writes, “Scouts Canada does not discriminate for reasons of gender, culture, religious belief or sexual orientation.”4 The Scout Association in the UK makes available a number of documents related to openly homosexual members.5 One of the supplements, titled “Being Gay with an Adult Role in Scouting,” declares, “It’s OK to be an adult in Scouting and be gay! Throughout the Association there are adults in Scouting who are gay, lesbian or bisexual.”6 Related to students in the Association, another document counsels leaders on “Supporting a Young Person Who Is Gay and in Scouting,” as the title makes clear. When a student comes to a leader and admits to being gay, the supplement advises, “As you listen, reassure the young person that it is OK to be Gay and a Scout. . . . It is essential that your support is positive and it is not for you to judge them.”7 If what has happened in Canadian and UK scouting organizations is any indication, the Boy Scouts of America very likely will cave to the pressure and follow the path of affirming homosexual behavior. A Change of Mind What makes this scouting situation even more distressing is that the B.S.A. last year indicated that it would uphold its ban on gay members. In an article from CNN on July 17, 2012, the reporter wrote, “The Boy Scouts of America announced Tuesday it has affirmed its policy of ‘not granting membership to open or avowed homosexuals.’”8 Why then is the B.S.A. considering lifting the ban less than a year later? Indeed, there seems to be a mindset among pro-homosexual groups that they can simply demand to be part of a private organization’s membership, based solely on their status as “gay” or “lesbian” (or whatever other label they may choose to apply to themselves) and despite any qualms the organization may have with that lifestyle. Why should any private group be forced to include members whose beliefs are in direct contradiction with the group’s beliefs, standard, and moral code? In fact, in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale (2000), the U.S. Supreme Court dealt with this very issue. An assistant scoutmaster revealed that he was gay, and he was expelled from the B.S.A. The Supreme Court ruled that the B.S.A. and other private organizations like it do have the right to exclude those whose views conflict with the organization’s message. The court explained its decision as follows: . . . public or judicial disapproval of a tenet of an organization's expression does not justify the State’s effort to compel the organization to accept members where such acceptance would derogate from the organization’s expressive message. “While the law is free to promote all sorts of conduct in place of harmful behavior, it is not free to interfere with speech for no better reason than promoting an approved message or discouraging a disfavored one, however enlightened either purpose may strike the government.”9 Based on this court decision, certainly the Boy Scouts of America should not be afraid of facing a lawsuit. The U.S. Supreme Court has already affirmed the right to exclude homosexuals from the troops. What we are seeing is the erosion of the authority of God’s Word in the culture. If the B.S.A. even partially capitulates on this issue, it will have given up a great amount of ground to the homosexual agenda. Morality Based on Biblical Truth What is really at issue with admitting openly gay scouts is biblical truth. The Apostle Paul taught clearly that homosexual behavior in any form is unacceptable and sinful in the eyes of God (Romans 1:26–27; 1 Corinthians 6:9–10; 1 Timothy 1:10), and Jesus affirmed that marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman (Matthew 19:4–6; Mark 10:6–9). The church has the Word of God on which to base its morality—but who determines what is moral in a godless culture? The Boy Scouts of America has never been solely a Christian group, but it has held to Christian moral beliefs since its inception. With wording in the Scout Law that says a “scout is reverent” and having a Scout Oath that declares that scouts will do their “best to do my duty to God,” the Scouts are rooted in Christian beliefs (even though the B.S.A. has included other theists, such as Jews and other non-Christians). With that basis, Scouts pledge an oath to be “morally straight.” What does morality mean without some kind of foundation? In recent years, however, there has been a push on the B.S.A. to set aside the Christian moral foundation and replace it with a relative morality based on man’s shifting opinions. The debate over whether to permit openly homosexual people to participate in the B.S.A. is really the clash of two worldviews: one worldview makes God and His Word the authority while the other makes man and his ever-changing views the authority. Now, in one sense it should not come as a shock that a group that was not inherently Christian (though it held to many Christian beliefs) would drift like this. The difference between what is Christian and what is secular and morally relative is widening in America. On the one hand, secular alternative groups to the B.S.A. have already cropped up to accept openly homosexual members. On the other hand, there have been alternative groups to the Boy Scouts that are run by denominations that apparently are dedicated to upholding the Word of God. We cannot vouch for all of these denominational groups, but we encourage families to carefully examine these Christian groups (in light of Scripture) and see if they may be a viable alternative to the B.S.A.—especially if the B.S.A.’s final decision in May is in favor of homosexual members. We also ask that you pray for Bible-believing Scout leaders who have been seeking to use scouting as an outreach—ask God to grant them discernment on how to proceed. The B.S.A.’s decision on this issue will indicate to what lengths the organization is willing to go to subvert its Christian ideals. Will the Boy Scouts of America ultimately move their tents toward Sodom, like Abraham’s nephew Lot in Genesis 13:12? We at Answers in Genesis encourage you to fervently pray for the leaders of the Boy Scouts of America that they would stand on the Word of God in every area of their thinking. Meanwhile, let this episode be a reminder that while Americans at one time largely accepted the Christian worldview based on the Bible, today as God’s Word has increasingly come under attack by secularists, the biblical foundation for morality in this nation has been collapsing.
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
The great thing about humans as yeast and looking like a successful yeast sponge, is that surviving history will be amazed at what humans were absorbed with at the end....;} 20% of Boy scouts are gay.
20% of Boy scouts are gay. In Mitt's scout troop, but it's "special".
Mormon Gay
# # For gay Mormons, increasing support–but no clear path to heaven ... tv.msnbc.com/.../for-gay-...-no-clear-path-to-heaven/ - Cached Dec 12, 2012 ... Straight, gay and lesbian Mormons marched together in the NYC Pride March on Sunday, June 24 (Courtesy of David Lumb for MSNBC.com) ... But we're workin' on it!!!!....;}
Stone,a serious question since you seem so obsessed with homosexuality. Do you think it's a disease that can be caught by close physical proximity ,like a cold?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Why do you coddle faggots? Why do you like leftists try to undermine our values by telling everyone that is is normal. Why do you promote the destruction of our culture by promoting pretend queer marriage. You can answer your own question as it is you that seems to understand and defend the degenerates.
Why do you coddle faggots? I don't. Frankly,I don't care about them one way or the other as a specific sub-group of citizens,and don't understand your obsession with them. Why do you like leftists try to undermine our values by telling everyone that is is normal. Where have I ever said it was normal? Why do you promote the destruction of our culture by promoting pretend queer marriage. Yeah,with ALL the other crap that is going on,INCLUDING people like you wanting to deny a whole class of citizens their rights because YOU don't agree with their lifestyles,most of THEM wanting to attack everything conservative and deny US OUR Constitutional Rights in retaliation,every president since Reagan selling our country down the drain to globalism,our Congress passing and enforcing un-Constitutional laws,the US military arming and equipping state and local police forces,the feral government reading our mail and following us around with drones,illegal aliens having more rights and defenders without government than natural-born citizens,State dinners for crackhead convicted felons like Marion Berry,official racism against whites being the law of the land,etc,etc,etc,it's a few homosexuals wanting to marry that is destroying out way of life! Good thinking,Stone! And people like you wonder how this is happening......... You can answer your own question as it is you that seems to understand and defend the degenerates. A freaking CHIMP is smart enough to understand how and why they are supposed to have the same rights as you and I. THEIR rights are no more dependent on our approval than OUR rights are dependent on THEIR approval. If it needs approval it's not a right,and the Founding Fathers didn't spend all that time debating in order to come up with a Bill of Privileges. Anybody that CAN'T understand that does not have any individual rights because they are mentally incompetent and living in a state farm for fools where people who do have a few wits can look out for them and change their diapers and drool cups.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Pete I like you but you are a fucking moron. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period end of sentence end of debate you loose.
Why are you so stupid?
Good question. I suspect these dysfunctional geezers haven't been with the opposite sex in so long that they've become 'bi-curious'. I also feel sorry for the domestic animals in their lives.
Why do you pretend to be a Cahtolic? Why do you support destroying our moral culture?
Since they socialize with each other at school and during gym classes, what's the problem? Except for the fact that you gun nuts want to exact corporal punishment on any group you disapprove of.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
There are two problems. One of them is yours. You don't know right from wrong or moral from immoral or deviant from normal behavior. You see the Boy Scouts want the kids to grow up into young men with morals that know right from wrong. So if the go saying it is ok for queers to join their ranks they will have to throw their morals out the window. I don't expect you to understand this because as I mentioned you have trouble discerning right from wrong. You are a symptom of the times in which we live.
I can imagine, no I know how such Troops which uphold the ban would be demonized by the state run media.
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
I also feel sorry for the domestic animals in their lives. Now you're projecting.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Really? Who told you that,the Chocolate Messiah? Thunderbird ain't the only one projecting,is he?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Lol..really? I'm not the one spouting off about queer marriage and chimpanzees..you are.
You're the one having wet dreams about them.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#2. To: mcgowanjm, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
#4. To: All (#3)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#6. To: sneakypete (#5)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
#8. To: sneakypete (#7)
A freaking CHIMP is smart enough to understand how and why they are supposed to have the same rights as you and I.
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)
Period end of sentence end of debate you loose [sic].
#10. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Why do you coddle faggots? Why do you like leftists try to undermine our values by telling everyone that is is normal. Why do you promote the destruction of our culture by promoting pretend queer marriage.
#11. To: Fred Mertz (#9)
(Edited)
Why are you so stupid?
#12. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Will the Boy Scouts Move Their Tents Toward Sodom?
#13. To: mininggold (#12)
Since they socialize with each other at school and during gym classes, what's the problem?
#14. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Of course, leaving the decision up to individual troops would essentially be a non-answer from the Boy Scouts of America. What’s more, it would essentially serve as an affirmation of homosexual behavior as much as it would be if scout troops were forced to admit gay members. The organization, if it chooses the route of simply leaving the decision up to individual troops, will have given in to a false idea of neutrality. The B.S.A. will have bought into the idea that by not voicing its opposition to or support for homosexual behavior, it can avoid conflict and not force anyone to violate his beliefs.
#15. To: Thunderbird (#10)
I suspect these dysfunctional geezers haven't been with the opposite sex in so long that they've become 'bi-curious'.
#16. To: mininggold (#12)
Except for the fact that you gun nuts want to exact corporal punishment on any group you disapprove of.
#17. To: sneakypete (#15)
#18. To: Thunderbird (#17)
I'm not the one spouting off about queer marriage and chimpanzees..you are.
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