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Title: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword?
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URL Source: http://brownbible.com/index.php/Bib ... he-sword-die-by-the-sword.html
Published: Jan 10, 2013
Author: Ken Brown
Post Date: 2013-01-10 00:41:03 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 12

Did Jesus really say that all they who live by the sword will die by the sword? How could Jesus have said something that is so obviously not true? There have been many hundreds of thousands of career military men and women who have died peacefully in old age. Yet “those who live by the sword will die by the sword” is a common saying. An Internet search turned up millions of hits. Wikipedia asserts that the “proverb” comes from Mathew 26:52. Many other sources attribute the expression to Jesus, but let’s take a closer look at exactly what Jesus said and why.

Matthew 26: 52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Notice that Jesus didn’t say, “live by the sword.” He said, “take the sword.” Some versions render this line as, “draw the sword.” There is a big difference. Living by the sword is a lifestyle. Drawing the sword is a one-time act. The context of this statement is the night Jesus was captured to be held for “trial” and then crucified. A great number of men had come with swords and staves.

Matthew 26:47 And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.

Matthew 26:51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus [The gospel of John tells us that this was Peter] stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.

52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

Peter was not the only one of Jesus’ disciples present with a sword. Others present who were armed asked Jesus if they should fight with their swords. Peter was just the only one who began to do so without asking.

Luke 22:49 When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?

Jesus’ statement recorded in Matthew 26:52 above was a response to Peter’s action and the disciples’ question. It was relative to the situation at hand, not intended to be a proverb for all times and conditions. They were surrounded by a “great multitude” of armed men. Jesus told his disciples that if they fought they would die. He fixed what Peter had done by healing the man’s ear (Luke 22:51). Then he told his disciples that he could call in more than 12 legions of angels [a legion was at that time probably 6826 soldiers, 12 legions would be 81,912] if he wanted to get out of the situation, but that he needed to go with the men and fulfill what the Scriptures said would happen to him.

So the proverb is probably derived from Jesus’ words in Matthew, but it should not be attributed to Jesus. It is a corruption of what he said, ignoring the context in which he said what he did.

PS: You might want to also look at the sequel to this article here.

brownbible.com/index.php/...he-swordq-the-sequal.html

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#2. To: Orthodoxa, nativist nationalist, , liberator, ibjensen, out damned spot (#0)

Thoughts?

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Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. (Matthew 26:52)

If you live a certain way, it will shape your life and your ultimate destiny.

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50 And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus and took him.

51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.

52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

It seems to me that if you take one sentence out like you have there. Then someone could make that one line into a doctrine.

If you read the whole chapter. It seems to me that Jesus could have been talking about that incident right then. That if they fought right then they would surely die. But that doesn't mean that everyone who takes up the sword for all time will surely die. Something to think about.

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-10-15   7:00:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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It seems to me that if you take one sentence out like you have there. Then someone could make that one line into a doctrine.

If you read the whole chapter. It seems to me that Jesus could have been talking about that incident right then. That if they fought right then they would surely die. But that doesn't mean that everyone who takes up the sword for all time will surely die. Something to think about.

That seems reasonable to me. I recall a man I knew, family friend of long standing, our families were very close, and he was a wise man who knew the bible well. He warned about people who would take one part out of the Bible out of context and go to extremes, and he warned about interpreting a part of the Bible to where it would contradict another part. It would seem to me that he was speaking of that case. A lot of our ancestors made use of the sword, and one thing I fear is putting myself in a situation where I'd be judging the actions taken by past generations, and I would fear to judge them, which is not my place.

In the case of Jesus, he was not a totally passive person, as shown by when he drove the money changers out of the temple. He had a mission to fulfill, and driving the money changers out may have been one of the reasons that the high priests decided he must be killed. His level of understanding was on a much higher plane than everyone else, so a lot of what he said must have gone over peoples heads at the time. Like when he said how if the temple were destroyed it would be rebuilt in three days, and everyone around thought he meant the bricks and mortar structure, when he was really speaking of his own death.

I wonder if the writing of Paul might help here? He had an amazing mind, he could glean understanding from things that others seemed to have passed over, or had taken at face value and missed the deeper meaning.

As for the popular understanding of "live by the sword, die by the sword," that seems to be another of those things that people think is from the Bible but is not. Such as "Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear to Tread" and "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

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