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What will be your focus this year? What do you think is going to happen in 2013?
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) spokesman Doug Heye tweeted out a peace offering to House Speaker John Boehner, a sign that leadership is coming together and moving closer to a path to passage of the Senate bill. "Majority Leader Cantor stands with @SpeakerBoehner. Speculation otherwise is silly, non-productive and untrue," Heye tweeted. “It's meatball with provolone”-VP, ordering sandwiches for his staff @potbelly today in DC. (WH Photo-D. Lienemann) twitter.com/VP/status/2862… Meatballs for Uncle Joe. They're adding a trillion dollars of union pork and increasing taxes, everyone's happy. Debt ceiling will be raised to stimulate the Chicom economy. Chicom leaders
the markets have been taken over in effect by a criminal racketeering syndicate The financial world will now grind to a halt.
1) The relative economic decline in any one region, as quantified by a relative decline in per capita GDP, will be proportional to the relative decline in per capita petroleum consumption rate for that region. It is inherent in my PIE analysis that the future import and export trends for each region have been accounted for, and, for the purpose of this analysis, I am going to assume that alternative fossil fuels could not or will not be ramped up in time to make much of a difference for the one area that petroleum has been critical for economic growth: transportation. Jeffrey Brown
This 'Fiscal Cliff Deal' will fall apart in weeks.
In short, the markets have been taken over in effect by a criminal racketeering syndicate.
Is it Obama's mission to gut SS and Medicare? How will they do it?
How can a deal that is already signed fall apart? Do you meant that further deals will deteriorate?
After your first screw-up, I'd think you get this one correct. I was wrong. Please correct the spelling in the title of Jim's screen name.
By pissing off Sandy Victims.....for one. And seriously? You do know that Corporations walk away from deals all the time.
And That's Exactly what they're asking themselves right now.....;} They thought this was the Train.
I copied and pasted if from the former. Thanks.
9+Mw on the North American Plate.
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That wooshing sound you hear is the comment about CORPORATIONS going right over their pointy little noggins.
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“Global-scale forcing mechanisms today “include unprecedented rates and magnitudes of human population growth with attendant resource consumption, habitat transformation and fragmentation, energy production and consumption, and climate change,” says the study. Human activity drives today’s global-scale forcing mechanisms more than ever before. As a result, the rate of climate change we are seeing now exceeds the rate that occurred during the extreme planetary state change that tipped Earth from being in a glacial to an interglacial state 12,000 years ago. You have to go back to the end of the cataclysmic falling star, which ended the age of dinosaurs, to find a previous precedent."
Corporations are us little pepples, cuz the Supreme Court messiahs sez so.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Fortunately for them, their pointy noggins keep them from getting "stuck on stupid" like you lowbrow folks.
Perpetual War and Tax Cuts.....how to pay for them...... hmmmmmmm.....Social Security is available.......;} "Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson on 9/11 On 9/12/01 the only report that the hijackings were carried out by Muslim Terrorists was from Barbara Olson’s phone calls from Flight 77, to her husband Solicitor General Ted Olson. The story of these phone calls became the basis for the Official Myth that 19 Arabs, who had never flown a big Boeing, took control of 4 passenger jets and 3 of the crashed into their intended targets. "
Great Comeback....;} Bernie Kerik says Hello....... " ABC News reported the alleged discovery of the Suqami passport on September 12. Days later other outlets such as CNN on September 16 and 17 reported that Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik had said on Sunday (the 16th) that a passport belonging to one of the hijackers was discovered a few days ago by a passer-by, several blocks from the crash site. The FBI would not release the name on this mystery passport, leading to speculation that a second passport had been found at the WTC ruins. Some reports (e.g. the Guardian) claimed that it belonged to Mohamed Atta, the infamous ringleader. Other reports had it that a passport was found "in the vicinity of Vesey Street", or rescue workers sifting through the tons of rubble found a passport belonging to one of the suspected hijackers a few blocks from where the twin towers once stood (BBC). The 9-11 commission report claims that Suqami's Saudi passport was picked up by a passer-by and given to a NYPD detective shortly before the WTC towers collapsed. This concurs with the CBS News report of Suqami's passport's discovery on the ground minutes after his plane Flight 11 hit the North Tower. So we have "in the vicinity of Vesey Street", "several blocks" from the crash site, "a few blocks" from the crash site. The problem is, these are either in the wrong direction, or are the wrong distance. The Vesey Street or front of 7WTC claims have the passport travelling in exactly the wrong direction, and it seems whoever made this up forgot which flight Suqami was supposed to be on. AA Flight 11's impact with the northeast facade was almost dead centre, and the building's core absorbed much of the aircraft. Some of the densest parts from AA Flights 11 and 175, such as landing gear and an engine, passed right through the Towers and were found several blocks away from the crash site. The vast majority of the debris remained in the Towers, and there were no other reports of parts bouncing back.
Watch this: Why Chicago and not New York: Chicago Murder Rate Surges as New York's Drops to Record Low ... www.thedailybeast.com/......-drops-to-record-low.html Jul 2, 2012 ... As the sun rose Sunday, New York City hit a remarkable milestone, recording just 193 murders in the first six months of the year. In that same ... LEAD "6 years later, Pilsen lot remains contaminated with lead By Michael Hawthorne, Chicago Tribune reporter | November 23, 2012 Federal and state officials have known for more than six years about hazardous levels of brain-damaging lead in a vacant lot near Walsh Elementary School in Chicago's Pilsen neighborhood. Yet even after field investigators raised alarms about children possibly inhaling or ingesting contaminated soil, the half-acre lot hasn't been fenced off or cleaned up. Nor have government officials posted signs warning residents in the low-income, largely Latino neighborhood that... "In a 2000 paper (PDF) he concluded that if you add a lag time of 23 years, lead emissions from automobiles explain 90 percent of the variation in violent crime in America. Toddlers who ingested high levels of lead in the '40s and '50s really were more likely to become violent criminals in the '60s, '70s, and '80s. And with that we have our molecule: tetraethyl lead, the gasoline additive invented by General Motors in the 1920s to prevent knocking and pinging in high-performance engines." www.motherjones.com/envir.../lead-crime-link-gasoline " — May 20 — US Public Health Service holds conference to discuss viewpoints on Ethyl controversy and appoints blue-ribbon committee to conduct independent inquiry. Alice Hamilton and others insist that alternative anti-knock compounds are available, but consideration of alternatives is suspended as conference is cut back from two to three days to only one day. According to a 1950 memoir by T.A. Boyd, a confrontation between Hamilton and Kettering took place in a hallway during the conference recess, in which Hamilton privately said to Kettering: “You are nothing but a murderer” and “There are thousands of things better than lead to put in gasoline.” Kettering laughs at Hamilton. Frank Howard of Standard Oil says: “As a result of 10 years research … we have this apparent gift of God of three cubic centimeters of tetraethyl lead… It would be an unheard-of blunder if we should abandon a thing of this kind merely because of our fears.” Responding to Howard was Grace Burnham, director of the Workers Health Bureau, who pointed out that tetraethyl lead “was not a gift of God when those … men were killed or 149 men were poisoned.” 66.147.244.135/~enviror4/...ne/lead-history-timeline/ AND THEY KNEW
Fascinating. First time I've read of this; thanks.
TEOTWAWKI......why do you ask, Weedhopper.....;} Hottest day ever recorded in Australia as temperature tops 47.7 C. ... In Tasmania, Hobart recorded their hottest day for 120 years on Friday, ... Australia's hottest day on record hampers wildfire fight NBCNews.com (blog) - 3 hours ago - 2067 related articles » BTW: 47.7 degrees Celsius = 117.86 degrees Fahrenheit |47.7 ... - 20 C to F www.temperatureconversion.us/TCC/piart.php?art=1112 - Cached Convert 47.7 Degrees Celsius, Centigrade, to Degrees Fahrenheit · Share |. 47.7 degrees Celsius = 117.86 degrees Fahrenheit |47.7 C to F|47.7 C = F ...
I was 'noting' it, but not catching it's significance until I read the MJ article, then the History of Lead and Leaded Gasoline and then the Chicago 500 murders while NYC dropped. Makes sense cause Chicago is always dissing the EPA and dragging it's feet on lead.....
So you want to talk about child porn now? hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012...-over-mitchell-innocence/ PLEBGATE: Sensational doubts raised over Mitchell innocence Why did the Chief Whip try to get the gate opened a second time? Tory Vice Chairman “doubts Mitchell account” I didn't think so......;}
Changing 'child porn' to 'child rape' for accuracy. ;}
Amerikans are going from Ignorance to Panic....;} [quote]Previously the Bureau's heat index was capped at 48°C (118.4°F), but now recorded temperatures of over 50°C (122°F) have pushed the limit of the scale to an unheard of 54°C, which is equivalent to 129°F. ‘‘We are well past the time of niceties, of avoiding the dire nature of what is unfolding, and politely trying not to scare the public."–Liz Hanna, climate scientists "The scale has just been increased today and I would anticipate it is because the forecast coming from the bureau's model is showing temperatures in excess of 50 degrees," David Jones, head of the bureau's climate monitoring and prediction unit, told reporters.[/quote] ‘‘We are well past the time of niceties, of avoiding the dire nature of what is unfolding, and politely trying not to scare the public."–Liz Hanna, climate scientists EVIDENTLY NOT......but we're getting there..... :twisted: :roll: 8-)
I just went through the Mother Jones article after wading through the History of Lead. I wish I had the time, patience and knowledge background to read the comments to the MJ article - some fairly knowledgeable and opinionated readers. Really fascinating stuff and to me it appears to be scientifically sound research.
That didn't seem to work too well for Romney, did it?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
‘‘We are well past the time of niceties, of avoiding the dire nature of what is unfolding, and politely trying not to scare the public."–Liz Hanna, climate scientists "The scale has just been increased today and I would anticipate it is because the forecast coming from the bureau's model is showing temperatures in excess of 50 degrees," David Jones, head of the bureau's climate monitoring and prediction unit, told reporters.[/quote] Have you seen on a topo map what would be left of Israel after a moderate sea level rise? No wonder they are going after the high ground.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I see you are extending the padded room for another year:) LOL!!!
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
Mcgowanjm Wire 2013... A proud sponsor of Obama's little red book 5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths.(Proverbs 3:5-6)
They'll run out of water before then. This is the year. CBS/NBC headline Climate Change. CBS leads with it, while NBC puts it second. ABC talks about the Congress lady in Tuscon. IT's over. As long as the Arctic is ice free the drought continues.
GM Standard Oil DuPont IG Farben Ethyl ALL of them knew in 1925.....
Who keeps telling Obama that Social Security needs a solution? Is that you, red? ;}
Countries where Leaded Petrol is Possibly Still Sold for Road Use As at 17th June 2011 Compiled by Robert Taylor, Researcher, The LEAD Group Inc and Zac Gethin-Damon, Administrator, The LEAD Group Inc [LID 14110] Asia 1. Afghanistan 2. Korea, Dem. People’s Rep of (N. Korea) 3. Myanmar (Burma) Africa 4. Algeria Middle East 5. Iraq 6. Yemen In Alphabetical Order 1. Afghanistan 2. Algeria 3. Iraq 4. Korea, Dem. People’s Rep of (N. Korea) 5. Myanmar (Burma) 6. Yemen See a pattern?
TONIGHT 1/8/13 Devvy Kidd Gordon Duff John Hogue http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm
Gordon Duff lol.
Most Americans don't even realize that the U.S. government never actually needed to borrow a single penny from anyone else. “So Many People Died” The American System of Suffering, 1965-2014 By Nick Turse Pham To looked great for 78 years old. (At least, that’s about how old he thought he was.) His hair was thin, gray, and receding at the temples, but his eyes were lively and his physique robust — all the more remarkable given what he had lived through. I listened intently, as I had so many times before to so many similar stories, but it was still beyond my ability to comprehend. It’s probably beyond yours, too. Pham To told me that the planes began their bombing runs in 1965 and that periodic artillery shelling started about the same time. Nobody will ever know just how many civilians were killed in the years after that. June 4 1963 almost 50 years of Civil War now coming to an end.....;}
really.....;}
This Trillion Dollar Coin thing is getting curiouser and curiouser.
OOPS June 4 1963 50 years of Civil War now coming to a head....;} "The truth is that we do not have to have a system where more money is only created when more debt is created. We could have a system where the federal government directly creates debt-free money that is spent directly into circulation by the federal government. In fact, this has happened before. As I have written about previously, during the presidency of JFK a limited number of debt-free United States Notes were issued by the U.S. Treasury and spent by the U.S. government directly into circulation without any new debt being created. In fact, each bill said "United States Note" right at the top. Unfortunately, after JFK's presidency no more debt-free United States Notes were ever issued."
"But even before JFK, there were times when debt-free United States Notes were being used." And Everytime, the POTUS in charge was shot. Everytime....;}
If the Federal Reserve did not exist and the U.S. government directly created money instead of borrowing it, it is conceivable that we could have a national debt of $0.00 today instead of $16,432,707,263,449.56. Which option do you think our children and our grandchildren will wish that we had opted for?
What is even worse than the loss of liberty is the fact that most Americans aren't even aware that the loss has occurred.
cheney disappears at 9:02 AM on 9/11. When he reappears the USSA is born with Continuity of Gov't/State of Emergency for ALL. And not ONE mention by Congress or the USSAMSM of that fact.....;}
And so to ReCap for the Financially State Status Quo Impaired.... :twisted: Note, too, that the unadjusted decrease of $98.5 billion in sales (2011 Xmas :twisted: ) was the biggest one month drop in retail sales history. And then: Dec 27, 2012 ... (Reuters) - U.S. retail sales fell 2.5 percent last week from a year earlier CHRISTMAS RETAIL SALES WAS A DISASTER.... :twisted: :roll: 8-)
Published on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 by Common Dreams Will World Act to Protect Bees from Pesticidal 'Nerve Agent'? New study in Europe points sharp finger at neonicotinoids, but will it be enough to get governments to act against industry? - Jon Queally, staff writer www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/01/16 I'm going with No......;}
BP's Big Plan: Burn It. Burn It All. Showing no concern for climate, CEO of oil giant says notions of Peak Oil are 'increasingly groundless' - Jon Queally, staff writer BP CEO Bob Dudley. (Photo: AP)Ignoring overtly and by design the dire and repeated warnings of scientists who say that in order to avoid catastrophic and irreversible changes to the world's climate we must drastically reduce carbon emissions by curbing our use of fossil fuels, BP has a different plan for the next two decades which translates to this: Burn it. Burn whatever we can find.
O and another Huge BTW: None of the above envisions Collapsing/Disintegrating Empires. Be they the USSA. OR China. OR India..... :twisted: The Algeria hostage situation reported yesterday, where alleged Al Qaeda operatives took numerous hostages at a local BP, Statoil and Sonatrach JV gas plant in retaliation for the French incursion into Mali, has rapidly gone from bad to worse as some 34 hostages (out of the 41 originally reported) have been killed. Good Luck on Getting ANY Foreign workers to go to the Sahara now and pump out your Oil/Gas....... :twisted:
WTF? How did that happen? I hope it wasn't some sort of rescue mission.
MAybe worse. Report from PressTv says hostages (Some?) were being moved to another location. The Insurgents would only do that with negotiations and safe travel arrangements. Which were promptly abrogated....;} Reports of some hostages left. Which would explain the lack of reporting by the USSAMSM....the situation is still fluid.
Check out this Google/Cia headline: Algeria hostages reportedly escape captors; some may have been slain Accentuate the positive, ignore that fact that most are dead. At least that's my take on it. Louisville is #1 in hoops; that's my team. You got a Derby horse yet? Violence is mine right now. Can you get me one of those Calvin Borel baseball cards when he gets his 5,000th win at Oaklawn? He's nursing a broken wrist right now. Or do I have to drive down there myself?
Accentuate the positive, ignore that fact that most are dead. At least that's my take on it. Remember way back when that the Energy Plant was to be saved at all costs? If it went up it would take X lives and years to re build? Louisville and Kentucky sitting in a tree. Louisville's turning into a real powerhouse, eh? Pitino, Strong....they get a baseball team and the SEC will take them.....;}
I remember either betting Borel in an Exacta Box or Place because of Pat Day. And another jockey who I should remember. Borel and Mike Smith were always 3rd and 4th in the Season Standings....;} Boy, I miss that....;}
#1. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited) Did you catch that? Deep in the Second paragraph. The words: 'militants' 'are' 'besieged' And the Lulz is that the Algerian Army is killing 20 of the fu,ckers per day....... sounds like the Afghans......BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEY Guess What? The Insurgents are STILL holed up at the Algerian Gas Plant. BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA And .....wait for it...... Lance Armstrong is the Lead on CNN....... :twisted: :roll: 8-) :roll: :twisted: 8-)
That's sad. OVer 34 hours old and still one of the most up to date articles out there....;} 'Prepare for bad news': Cameron warns of many deaths in Algeria as ... Mauritania: a history marked by political instability Internally, Mauritania is characterized by chronic political instability. From 1978, the year in which President Mokhtar Ould Daddah was deposed by the military, the country lived through 13 coups d’état or attempted coups d’état before its first free, lawful, multiparty presidential election in early 2007 (Fichter, 2007, p. 17). The presidency of Sidi Mohamed Ould Cheikh Abdallahi, how ever, was brutally interrupted on [color=#800000]6 August 2008[/color] by another coup d’état, which terminated the country’s first experience of democracy and brought the head of the presidential guard, Gen. Mohammed Ould Abdelaziz, to power. After a year during which his power was disputed, Abdelaziz won the presidential election on 18 July 2009, which confirmed his legitimacy as the head of state (see Table 1). Table 1. Chronology of Mauritanian governments since 1963 Dates Type of government Party in power Leaders [color=#800000]1963–78 [/color] Single party Hizb ash-shaab al-muritani (Mauritanian People’s Party) Mokhtar Ould Daddah 1978–84 Military dictatorship Military Committee for National Salvation Moustapha Ould Mohamed Saleck [color=#800000](1978–1979)[/color] Mohamed Mahmoud Ould Ahmed Louly (1979–[color=#800000]1980[/color]) Mohamed Khouna Ould Haidallah ([color=#800000]1980[/color]–1984) 1984–92 Col. Maaouiya Ould Sid Ahmed Taya ([color=#800000]1984–2005[/color]) [color=#800000]1992–2005[/color] Multi-party with an appearance of democracy Al-hizb al-jumhuri ad-dimuqrati al-ijtimai (Democratic and Social Republican Party) 2005–07 Military dictatorship Military Council for Justice and Democracy Col. Ely Ould Mohamed Vall 2007–08 Multi-party with an appearance of democracy None10 Sidi Mohamed Ould Cheikh Abdallahi 2008–09 Military dictatorship High Council of State General Mohamed Ould Abdelaziz 2009–… Multi-party and democratic Union for the Republic Sources: Ould-Mey (2008, pp. 81, 87); Reuters (2008b) http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/f...AS-OP24-Mauritania-EN.pdf Mauritania is IMHO the 'signal' state of West Africa. The same group at the Algerian Gas Plant was responsible for this: [quote]In June 2005, al Nigeri led the GSPC team that assaulted a Mauritanian military barracks in Lamghiti in northern Mauritania. Seventeen Mauritanian soldiers were killed in the attack. Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/ar...dist_id.php#ixzz2IQgkIvE4 [/quote] which precipitated Mauritania's Current Configuration. Also Noting How E[color=#800000]VERYONE[/color] is quoting this: Canadian among Islamic militants in Algeria siege, Mauritanian ... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/n...agency.../article7510921/ 21 hours ago ... Reached in Nouakchott, the Mauritanian capital, ANI website editor Sidi ... because the movement often uses the Mauritanian news agency as ... Algerian army helicopters raid petroleum facility where hostages are ... http://news.xinhuanet.com/englis...013-01/17/c_132110355.htm 2 days ago ... NOUAKCHOTT, Jan.17 (Xinhua) -- Algerian army helicopters on ... the spokesman for the kidnappers told Nouakchott News Agency (ANI). but good luck on you getting to their site...... :twisted: :roll: :lol: 8-)
not a surprise for those of us who consider AQ in its entirety to be a western false flag network Every time you hear the USSAMSM say ' Al Qaeda' think 'CIA'.....;} Terror in North Africa: are Westerners pulling the strings? Daniel Howden, Independent, Jan 22 2013 Canada is investigating an allegation by the Algerian Prime Minister that one of its citizens coordinated the terror raid at the Saharan gas plant in which dozens of hostages were killed.Westerners, including a man with blond hair and blue eyes, are believed to have been among the attackers. A French jihadist, previously unknown to authorities, and 2 Canadians are suspected to have been involved in the hostage-taking, and reports also claim that a man with a Western accent was among the extremists who lured terrified gas workers from their rooms during the hostage crisis.
Acute Human Self-Poisoning with Imidacloprid Compound: A Neonicotinoid Insecticide
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Futures Impressive in Light of Apple (AAPL) Carnage By: Mark Hanna Posted on: January 24, 2013 at 9:00 am While the NASDAQ futures are taking it on the chin, the premarket read for the S&P 500 and Russell 2K is flattish which is an impressive showing by this market as it continues to segregate Apple (AAPL), much as it has for the past few months. When I posted last night Apple was testing recent lows in the $480s, it is opening in the $460s (-10%!). Call me a bit surprised the market has completely isolated it." marketmontage.com/2013/01/24/fut ... Montage%29 COUGH*****RIGGED*****COUGH :twisted: :roll: :lol: 8-)
# Net Energy End Game Theory… | Doomstead Diner www.doomsteaddiner.org/bl...t-energy-end-game-theory/ 7 hours ago ... Net Energy End Game Theory… Published ... The time frame is less than two years: the world becomes net energy negative. At that point there ... From Capitalism To Democracy jayhanson.us/ - Cached - Similar Oct 7, 2012 ... Net Energy is the Critical Variable; The Market System as “A Means of Control” ... like two billion tonnes (metric tons) of oil equivalent energy each year! .... The above observation is so important that I am going to repeat it: ..... Friedman left EUT as a basis for decision and game theory without further ...
Swartz and Wikileaks.... Israel and 9/11.... "Did the Israeli nationals have foreknowledge of the events at WTC and were they filming the events prior to and in anticipation of the explosion?" The fact that it's blanked out indicates that the answer is clearly not an emphatic "no". Nonetheless, the material that has already been released is sufficient to prove that the Israelis did indeed have foreknowledge of the attacks on the WTC. That is of course consistent with Israel's capability and history of staging false-flag terror, the two hours' advance warning of the WTC attack transmitted via the Herzliya / New York-based Israeli instant messaging service Odigo, the failure of Benjamin Netanyahu's friend Larry Silverstein and his children to turn up for work that day at the World Trade Center, Netanyahu's advance warning of, and Efraim Halevy's intimate knowledge of, the London 7/7 attacks, the $250,000 "loan" received by Bernard Kerik from Israeli billionaire Eitan Wertheimer together with $236,000 in rent paid by Steven C. Witkoff after Kerik visited Israel from August 26-29, 2001 to meet with Wertheimer and then claimed on September 16, 2001 that a "hijacker's passport" had been "discovered", along with multiple corroborating evidence much too numerous to mention in an introduction." " The reason for the assassination was to control the power of the presidency."
http://www.dhushara.com/paradoxhtm/chaos.htm The logistic map: (a) As r increases from 2 to 4 the attracting final state is initially a single curve ( an equilibrium point for each r ) but then it repeatedly subdivides (pitchfork bifurcations) to make a rich and lean year (period 2) then periods 4, 8 etc., finally entering chaos (stippled bands). Subsequently there are windows of period 3, 5 etc. with abrupt transitions to and from chaos. The Lyapunov exponent indicates whether the system is chaotically amplifying small differences. During chaos it remains positive. The Mandelbrot set illustrates the fractal nature of the ordered and chaotic regimes when x and r are extended to the complex number plane. (b) A series of 2-D views of the iteration, including periods 1, 2 and 8 chaos, intermittency, and period 3. Pick an initial value x and find y by moving vertically to the curve y = r x (1 - x). Next we let the new x = y by moving horizontally to the sloping line. The two steps result in one iteration, i.e. xn+1 = y = r xn (1 - xn). (c) The non-escaping points form a disconnected repelling fractal for r = 4.5. The attracting final set has now broken up, resulting in a fractal Julia set. (d) A connected Julia set for the complex logistic [x-axis vertical] plotted by inverse iteration taking all the 2n square root solutions of the inverse function IMG] At this point, a new erratic behaviour emerges, and the system wanders with no fixed period. chaos has appeared. All of the previous periodic attractors continue to exist hidden in the chaos as repellers, generating a tangled repelling flow, whose spreading causes sensitive dependence. As r increases further, windows of order, with new periods appear in a new and abrupt type of transition from chaos to order. There is yet a third type of chaotic transition represented by the mode-locked periodic feedback, as in the heart pacemaker and rotations on the periodic spirals of the Mandelbrot set illustrated below. A portion of the Mandelbrot set of the logistic map. The fractal displays all possible quadratic dynamics. Although these vary and it is thus not exactly self-similar, it is nevertheless a fractal. Finally a new situation emerges. The attractor becomes unstable. All that is left is a residual set of points, which do not escape, but are mapped chaotically among themselves.
[quote="Foster"] "We can grow forever! Stay happy and chipper everyone!") Moms will break the bad news: "I'm sorry honey, we can't afford that. We have to buy food." That is taking place now. It will take place more as "business" and credit dries up around the world. "The first things to go"... are already going.[/quote] Seems is 30 years late to the party. That we can go over the Asymptote and float down to a sustainable level and enjoy the Holidex.... :twisted: [quote] What is the Difference Between Entrained Air and Cavitation? Along with entrained air, cavitation is a top candidate for causing pump problems. Cavitation occurs when the pump’s internal pressures are lower than the vapor pressure of the liquid which results in rapid vapor formation within the pump which collapse as the liquid is swept into the higher pressure regions of the pump. The cavitation effect may cause material damage to the impeller and possibly casing, which is resultant of the sudden formation and implosion of vapor bubbles. [/quote] The USSR was the 'pump' that was cavitating with the Berlin Wall. Cheap oil could no longer be supplied to the Warsaw Pact. To bleed the air, the Berlin Wall was collapsed. Not enough. A coup to 'streamline efficiencies' was carried out in Moskva. But instead, an 'Entrained Air' moment occurred. Nothing moved anywhere in the USSR. It disintegrated. [quote]For reasons already presented in Part 1, I believe that per capita consumption rate is an important indicator of the direction and magnitude of economic growth/de-growth, and, that below a certain low level or per capita consumption (e.g., less than 1 barrel of petroleum per person per year, b/py) the petroleum driven food production system of a region starts to decline, along with a concurrent and proportional an increase in starvation and death in that region. In particular, my thesis is that that the extent of population decline is in direct proportion to that needed to keep per capita consumption at 1 b/py, until the population drops to its pre-petroleum era population, which I have assumed to equal that region’s population in 1900.[/quote] FORMER SOVIET UNION [img]2.bp.blogspot.com/-Mqlzqy.../s640/PPO-Fig19.jpg[/img] POPULATION [img]2.bp.blogspot.com/-eFmSg4...PO-Fig4-revised.jpg[/img] CHINA [img]4.bp.blogspot.com/-JWbiSJ.../s640/PPO-Fig16.jpg[/img] POPULATION ASIA PACIFIC minus CHINA [img]3.bp.blogspot.com/-iglrbK.../s640/PPO-Fig18.jpg[/img] [quote]Final thoughts Of course, if the disaster presented above for rAP occurs, it would, by far, be the greatest magnitude of human loss and suffering in the history of mankind. This would eclipse the starvation and population decline of 1 billion I predicted for AF and FS by 2026, or the 67 million population decline in JP predicted to start a few years later in about 2033. All told then, we are looking at population declines for the four regions of rAP, AF, FS and JP totaling about 3.4 billion people by the end of my study period in 2065.[/quote]
Country music can promote the war machine and corporate criminals but don't tell even a wee bit of truth about anything that matters, you'll get boycotted. In other earth shattering news...Ariel Sharon's brain is said to be showing significant activity after vegetating for the last seven years. Doctors are amazed because brain activity is rare in any Israeli politician, awake or in a coma. When asked about Sharon's condition, Netanyahu foamed at the mouth and threw a copy of the Sunday Times at the reporter. Sharon was Prime Minister of Israel during the September 11, 2001 joint Israeli/neocon attack on America. In an attempt to provoke more stimulation in Sharon's brain, doctors are playing him a looped recording 24/7 of his alleged famous quote... "We, the Jewish People, Control America, and The Americans Know it!"
"it was a form letter from a long-time friend and colleague. The opening line took me aback: “Especially considering the political strife and random unexplainable (sic) violence of the past year, we find ourselves feeling incredibly blessed …” Wow. Apparently this particular professor hasn’t been paying attention to the news. Or perhaps she is plagued by the sentiments of James Baldwin, the American novelist, essayist, playwright, poet, and social critic: “Precisely at the point when you begin to develop a conscience you must find yourself at war with society.” Being at war with society is a tough sell for a university professor embedded within and dependent upon the current version of society. "
“This task force [one of several in place in Mexico] is pretty heavily armed and is embedded with the Mexican military,” says William Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, a former CIA contract pilot who flew numerous missions delivering arms to Latin America and returning drugs to the United States as part of the covert Iran/Contra operations in the 1980s. “These are boots on the ground ... seven to eight of them [in Joint Task Force 7], working in a civilian capacity, meaning they are not in uniform. http://narcosphere.narconews.com...ng-mexican-crime-organiza ZETAS say Hello......;}
MEXICO CITY February 1, 2013 (AP) An explosion at the main headquarters of Mexico's state-owned oil company in the capital Thursday left at least several workers injured, blew out windows and damaged the building, the company said. Local media reported that at least one person had died and that about 40 were injured. PHOTO: Firefighters search for survivors Guillermo Gutierrez/AP Photo Firefighters and workers dig for survivors... View Full Size PHOTO: Firefighters search for survivors Guillermo Gutierrez/AP Photo Firefighters and workers dig for survivors after an explosion at an adjacent building to the executive tower of Mexico's state-owned oil company PEMEX, in Mexico City, Jan. 31, 2013. Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, said workers have been evacuated from the building. A reporter at the scene saw rescue workers trying to free several workers trapped. Television images showed people being evacuated on office chairs, and gurneys. Most of them showed injuries likely caused by falling debris. Pemex said in a Tweet that several workers were injured in the blast but no one answered at its offices. In an earlier Tweet, the company said it had evacuated the building because of problems with the electricity in its administrative skyscraper.
30 dead, at least 25 trapped. Nothing to see here. Move along.....;} Zetas say Hello...... "A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said preliminary findings suggested the blast was caused by aged boiler exploding in a Pemex building next to the tower, Reuters reported. "Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto arrived at the Pemex administration complex by helicopter Thursday night to supervise rescue operations, Pemex and the news agency La Prensa reported. Hundreds of Mexican military forces were sent to the complex to "preserve security," officials told newspaper El Universal. "Sánchez said as many as 30 people remained trapped in the debris Thursday. Search-and-rescue dogs were sent into the skyscraper, parts of which remained on fire at 10 p.m. ET, cloaking the Mexico City skyline in a thick cloud of smoke, Telemundo reported. The main floor and the mezzanine of the auxiliary building were heavily damaged, along with windows as far as three floors up. "Pemex initially said the building had been evacuated because of a problem with its electricity supply. It then said there had been an explosion, but it didn't give the cause." RIIIIIIGHTTTTT.....;}
#3. To: Robin (#0) From the Two Gas Plant Explosion links above: "Pemex Director Juan Jose Suarez said that there was "no evidence that it was a deliberate incident, or some kind of attack". Company officials said that maintenance work had been carried out on the plant just minutes prior to the explosion. President Calderon praised the emergency workers, who he said had managed to contain the fire before it could spread to the massive tanks of a neighbouring gas processing plant. There have been several fires at Mexican refineries over the past month. While investigations into those blazes have not yet concluded, preliminary evidence suggests they could have been caused by thieves tapping the lines to steal petrol." " Company officials said that maintenance work had been carried out on the plant just minutes prior to the explosion." Trying to maintain the plant how?....;} Another report stated that the ZETAS were taking 45% of PEMEX production out of Tamaulipas Province....;} You know, once you're over 10%, you're really not stealing. You're part of the Business......;} mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-01
I'm now thinking this is a CIA/FBI/SpecOps.... Reason: Los ZETAS are already taking 10% of PEMEX net. They're major stakeholders in PEMEX remaining Status Quo. # Business News Americas - Pemex will not be privatized - Peña Nieto www.bnamericas.com/news/....be-privatized-pena-nieto1 22 hours ago ... Pemex will not be privatized - Peña Nieto ... Peña Nieto said the other principal goal of energy reform would be to reduce energy power costs. Business News Americas - Pemex will not be privatized - Peña Nieto www.bnamericas.com/.../pr...-be-privatized-pena-nieto 22 hours ago ... Pemex will not be privatized - Peña Nieto ... Pemex are deceptive and untrue, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto said during a meeting. Enrique Peña Nieto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Peña_Nieto - Cached - Similar Not to be confused with Enrique Peña or Enrique Nieto (architect). ... Peña Nieto proposed that he will reinvigorate Mexico's economy, permit the national oil company, Pemex, to compete in the private sector, and reduce drug ... Peña Nieto said that he became interested in politics during elementary school, when he was ... Mexico explosion: How will the Pemex blast affect the country's race ... www.csmonitor.com/.../Mex...he-country-s-race-for-oil 1 hour ago ... Privatization is strictly forbidden under the Constitution, but new Mexican ... My condolences to their families," President Peña Nieto said in a tweet. ... he believes the tragedy will not shake public trust in the powerful Pemex. MEXICO is famous for sending messages......;}
C'mon, get real.
C'mon, get real. You talkin' to me or Juan.
Why does the MSM link this bombing to other explosions in Pemex Refineries/Pipelines. Why did the MSM dismiss statements of an explosion in the WTC Basement.
# # Torre Ejecutiva Pemex explosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torre_Ejecutiva_Pemex_explosion Earlier in the day, Pemex sent out a tweet saying that the building was being evacuated due to a "problem with the electrical system in the complex that includes
As an economist, Suárez Coppel has served as Director of Finance in Pemex, chief advisor to former Mexican Secretary of Finance Francisco Gil Díaz, as Adjunct-Director for Derivatives in Banamex, as Treasurer of Televisa, and as Vice President of Finance in Grupo Modelo; the largest Mexican brewery.[1] Sweet Baby Jesus. Everyone of those up to their necks in Plutarchy. DOJ sues to block Anheuser Busch merger with Mexico's Grupo Modelo ABA Journal - 16 hours ago - 1105 related articles » The Justice Department on Thursday sued to stop a planned merger of Belgium-based Anheuser-Busch InBev with Mexico's largest beer # Televisa, Telemundo ink cross-border content deal | News | C21Media www.c21media.net/archives/36567 - Cached The channel, which will feature branded Telemundo entertainment and news content, will be available on Televisa-owned satellite and cable networks, Sky and ... What the Televisa, Univision Deal Means | Adweek www.adweek.com/news/.../w...ivision-deal-means-103473 - Cached Oct 6, 2010 ... Rife with betrayal, relationships gone bad and court battles, the decades-long relationship between Mexican broadcaster Grupo Televisa and ... # Banamex loses bid to censor Narco News By Chuck Armsbury ... www.november.org/razorwire/rzold/27/page12.html - Cached David slew Goliath with a stone, and similarly on December 5, 2001 in a New York courtroom, tiny NarcoNews.com cut down the giant Banamex, humbling ... # Dubious Lawsuit Forces Narco News To Shut Down www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n1448/a07.html?2051 - Cached Aug 20, 2001 ... The Banamex lawsuit, which began hearings on July 20, is raising eyebrows in media-watchdog circles. Narco News, which is written in ... I covered that presidential summit eight years ago, investigated the charges for three months, and published the first of many reports that May (see “Clinton and His Mexican Narco-Pals,” Boston Phoenix, May 17, 1999). Follow-up reports and translations of Por Esto!’s investigations appeared on Narco News after we began publishing in April 2000. By July of that year, Narco News, the Por Esto! publisher Mario Menéndez Rodríguez and I found ourselves as defendants in the New York Supreme Court from a lawsuit filed by Banamex. The bank had hired the mega-lobbying and law firm Akin Gump, of Washington DC, to harass us with that nuisance suit. More than a year of our lives was dominated by the painstaking presentation of all the evidence to the Court. In December 2001, the New York Supreme Court delivered a thunderous blow to Banamex (by then part of Citigroup, the world’s wealthiest financial institution): it dismissed Banamex’s case, and established, for the first time, First Amendment protections for Internet journalists in the United States. "
The day El Presidente announces no privatization, Pemex Building bombed, Suarez is on a jet. Shades of Silverstein.....;}
BANAMEX: "Journalist Ed Vulliamy informed us that the authors of that report provide compelling evidence that "financial regulators in the west are reluctant to go after western banks in pursuit of the massive amount of drug money being laundered through their systems." Indeed, at the height of the global financial crisis Antonio Maria Costa, then the head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime told The Observer "he has seen evidence that the proceeds of organised crime were 'the only liquid investment capital' available to some banks on the brink of collapse last year. He said that a majority of the $352bn (£216bn) of drugs profits was absorbed into the economic system as a result." "In many instances," Costa said, "the money from drugs was the only liquid investment capital. In the second half of 2008, liquidity was the banking system's main problem and hence liquid capital became an important factor."
A third-generation drug trafficker, Ávila is the niece of of Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo, onetime godfather of the Guadalajara Cartel now serving a 40-year prison term for the 1984 murder of DEA agent Enrique Camarena. Camarena was kidnapped and tortured to death after he uncovered evidence linking the CIA and Oliver North's sordid "Enterprise" to drug trafficking Nicaraguan Contras during the Reagan administration.
The document went on to assert that before becoming a key U.S. "partner in the drug war," and rewarded with some $3 billion under Plan Colombia to "fight drugs," Uribe "was linked to a business involved in narcotics activities in the United States" and "has worked for the Medellín cartel." Although the U.S. government disavowed that report, for purely political reasons I might add, several members of Uribe's family, including the president's cousin, Mario Uribe Escobar, the former President of the Colombian Congress, was convicted and removed from office over his close ties to the far-right, drug trafficking paramilitary death squad, the Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia, or AUC.
By Anahi Rama and Mica Rosenberg MEXICO CITY, June 14 (Reuters) - Mexico's presidential frontrunner Enrique Pena Nieto said on Thursday he would name Colombia's top crime fighter, known for tackling drug cartels and guerrillas, as his government's chief security advisor if he wins. Retired general Oscar Naranjo served as head of Colombia's national police from 2007 until he resigned on Tuesday. Colombia: Ex-Security Chief Accused In Drug Trafficking ... latindispatch.com/.../col...king-wiretapping-schemes/ - Cached Jun 19, 2012 ... Colombia: Ex-Security Chief Accused In Drug Trafficking, Wiretapping ... Santoyo Velasco, who served under former Colombian president Alvaro Uribe from ... Mexico Protests: Rumors Of Deaths During Anti-Peña Nieto ... BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Los ZETAS say HOLA y BIENVENIDOS ;}
Citing findings by two Colombian academics, Alejandro Gaviria and Daniel Mejía in their study, Anti-Drugs Policies In Colombia: Successes, Failures And Wrong Turns, Ed Vulliamy disclosed "that 2.6% of the total street value of cocaine produced remains within the country, while a staggering 97.4% of profits are reaped by criminal syndicates, and laundered by banks, in first-world consuming countries."
Zambada Niebla, extradited to the US in February 2010 and now facing narco-trafficking charges in federal court in Chicago, claims in pleadings in his case that the US government entered into a pact with the leadership of the Mexican Sinaloa narco-trafficking organization that supposedly provide its chief narcos with immunity in exchange for them providing US authorities with information that could be used to target other narco-trafficking organizations. The US government, in pleadings filed in the case this past July and again this past Friday, denies that Zambada Niebla was granted immunity by any law enforcement agency for the narco-trafficking crimes spelled out in the indictment against him. Those same pleadings do not broach the topic of whether he, or his Sinaloa organization associates, might have had a cooperative relationship with US intelligence agencies, such as the CIA. Former deep undercover DEA agent Mike Levine describes the scenario apparently playing out in the Zambada Niebla case this way: This is very typical of DEA infighting with CIA involvement, especially the, well, clumsy stupidity of the whole thing. Of course [Loya Castro] would be meeting with the Sinaloa guys even though he was a known snitch, simply because it is now a respected sport among big bad guys to "play" the US government for their (the cartel's) own advantage. If you are killing the opposition, why not rat on them? [Boston organized crime leader] Whitey Bulger did it successfully for the FBI for decades…. Playing the informant game with our government is now a win-win gambit for every bad guy on the globe. … Don't miss the trees for the forest. If it's weird, sounds like a grade Z movie and is handled in a clumsy, obvious way, it's CIA [behind the curtain pulling the levers]....
Jesus Fucking Christ, are you reading this? And ever since Cantarell started collapsing. Drugs, Oil, Banks, money laundering, military.... Mexico's in the Middle of a Civil War. And it just took a step to the next level. "The former federal agent who spoke with Narco News about the Zambada Niebla case, and who asked not to be named, says that in CIPA cases, individuals are often brought in by the government who have “particular specialties, like defending CIA interests.” “Find out what other similar cases they have handled,” the source adds. “Sometimes these answer can be very telling.” In the CIPA filing made by the US government in the Zambada Niebla case, prosecutors ask that the judge appoint “Daniel Hartenstine, Security Specialist, to serve in the position of classified information security officer in this matter.”
(An alert reader pointed out when my piece appeared in 2010, that Herb Sandler, who sold Golden West at the top of the market saying he wanted to devote himself to "philanthropy," "now owns ProPublica, a Left gatekeeper that goes after easy targets like racist cops ... but which will not examine Sandler's wing of the power elite. Michael Barker wrote a great series on this outfit and its Establishment handlers called "Investigating the Investigators--A Critical Look at ProPublica.")
However, unless Suárez Coppel obtained an iron-clad promise from President Felipe Calderón that he can work without interference, there's little reason to believe he'll enjoy any more success than his predecessor, experts say. In his annual State of the Union address last week, Calderón pledged to push through a fresh set of reforms aimed at strengthening Pemex, the government's largest single source of tax revenue. "We must take profound [reforms] and move quickly," he said. Reyes Heroles, 57, a politically savvy economist who served as ambassador to the U.S. in the late 1990s, officially "resigned" to make way for Suárez Coppel, 50, a University of Chicago-trained economist. He is expected to take dramatic steps in an effort to stem losses at Petroleos Mexicanos, where production dropped 7.3% in the first half of the year and revenues plummeted 30%. On Sept. 7, Calderon praised Reyes Heroles for helping to win passage of the "historic" reforms Congress approved in 2008, measures which the President said would put Pemex "on the path to once again becoming … one of the most important oil companies in the world." He also said that Suárez Coppel's task would be to "transform Pemex profoundly, to its roots." Having served as Pemex's chief financial officer from 2001 to 2006, Suárez Coppel knows the company's numbers well. But he also knows that his ability to turn Pemex's fortunes around will be limited by the fact that the company doesn't operate autonomously; it is subject to budgetary and spending decisions dictated by the finance and energy ministries and by Congress. Even Pemex's divisional chiefs of exploration and refining are named not by the CEO, but by President Calderón, notes George Baker, an energy analyst in Houston. "The head of Pemex really has very little authority, so it's not clear how much this change in CEOs will mean," Baker says.
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That aircraft was allegedly purchased with Sinaloa organization drug money laundered through Alatorre Damy’s casa de cambio business and a U.S. bank Zambada Niebla, as the US government-described “logistics coordinator” for the Sinaloa organization, is linked to alleged Sinaloa organization money-launderer Pedro Alfonso Alatorre Damy via a Gulfstream II jet (tail number N987SA) that crashed in Mexico in late 2007 with some four tons of cocaine onboard. That aircraft was allegedly purchased with Sinaloa organization drug money laundered through Alatorre Damy’s casa de cambio business and a U.S. bank. And that same aircraft was reportedly suspected of being used previously as part of the CIA’s “terrorist” rendition program and allegedly made a number of trips to Guantanamo Bay between 2003 and 2005, according to media reports and an investigation spearheaded by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In addition, the Gulfstream II was purchased less than two weeks before it crashed in Mexico by a duo that included a U.S. government operative who allegedly had done past contract work for a variety of US law enforcement and intelligence agencies, according to a known CIA asset (Baruch Vega) who is identified as such in public court records. The four tons of cocaine onboard of the Gulfstream II at the time of its crash landing, according Vega, was purchased in Colombia via a syndicate that included a Colombian narco-trafficker named Nelson Urrego, who, according to Panamanian press reports and Vega, is a U.S. government (CIA) asset.
Mr. Zambada Niebla believes that the documentation that he requests [from the US government as part of his court case] will confirm that the weapons received by Sinaloa Cartel members and its leaders in Operation ‘Fast & Furious’ were provided under the [immunity] agreement entered into between the United States government and [Chapo Guzman confidante, DEA cooperating source and possible CIA asset] Mr. Loya Castro on behalf of the Sinaloa Cartel….
• US Court Documents Claim Sinaloa “Cartel” Is Protected by US Government • US Government Informant Helped Sinaloa Narcos Stay Out of Jail CIA Mexico Submitted on September 12th, 2011 by Holloway (not verified) The CIA penetrations of Mexico go so deep that Mexican National Sovereignty has be completely compromised. American has taken over Mexico through the CIA backdoor. Philip Agee told us in the 1970's that there had been three Mexican Presidents that were CIA. The CIA is completely honey combed throught out Mexican Society. One has to wonder what cases such as these mean in the grand scheme of things? Why do the Narco Level recruits get sacrificed every now and then? CIA goes all the way to the top of Mexican Government.
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On board, they found 128 identical black suitcases "packed with 5.7 tons of cocaine, valued at $100 million. The stash was supposed to have been delivered from Caracas to drug traffickers in Toluca, near Mexico City, Mexican prosecutors later found. Law enforcement officials also discovered something else." "The smugglers," Smith wrote, "had bought the DC-9 with laundered funds they transferred through two of the biggest banks in the U.S.: Wachovia Corp. and Bank of America Corp." But in breaking that story six years ago, (long before Bloomberg and The Observer joined the hunt), Hopsicker revealed that "One of the two owners of the DC-9 (tail number N900SA) busted at an airport in Ciudad del Carmen in the state of Campeche, Mexico last week freighted 5.5 tons of cocaine had been appointed in 2003 to the Business Advisory Council of the National Republican Congressional Committee by then-Congressional Majority Leader Tom Delay, The MadCow Morning News can exclusively report." That plane, Hopsicker disclosed, was tricked-out by owner Brent Kovar to impersonate a jet flown by the U.S. Transportation Security Administration. An official-looking seal read "Sky Way Aircraft, Protection of America's Skies," complete with the "image of a federal eagle clutching the familiar olive branch in its talons." And when he searched FAA and corporate records, Hopsicker learned that "A close look at [shell company] Royal Sons reveals evidence indicating that the firm is part of a cluster of related air charter firms being used as dummy front companies to provide 'cover' for CIA flights." "The companies involved," Hopsicker averred, "include Royal Sons, Express One International, Genesis Aviation and United Flite Inc."
Subsequent reporting by Hopsicker revealed that the second plane, a Gulfstream II business jet (N987SA) which crash landed on the Yucatán peninsula in 2007 with four tons of coke on board, was registered to a "Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc." (DBA, or "doing business as") and was previously employed as a "private charter" that did "terrorist" rendition flights for, who else, the CIA! As Narco News journalist Bill Conroy revealed in 2008, "At the center of that controversy are allegations that the downed cocaine jet was part of a CIA-backed narco-trafficking operation." According to Conroy, the "key to the ill-fated Gulfstream II cocaine shipment is a prolific Colombian narco-trafficker and U.S. government informant named Jose Nelson Urrego Cardenas--who was recently arrested by police in Panama. Urrego allegedly played a major role in organizing the cocaine shipment as part of [Immigration and Customs Enforcement's] Mayan Express operation."
Back or Sideways to Juan Jose Suarez Coppel: "Suárez Coppel, who served as chief of advisors to the Finance Secretary under former Mexican President Vicente Fox, was brought in to improve those efficiencies. But he doesn't have a long track record of success: His most recent job in the private sector, as chief financial officer of Mexican beer brewer Grupo Modelo, ended in July after the company suffered big losses on foreign currency derivatives. He faces even bigger challenges at Pemex, whose proven oil reserves are expected to last only another nine years. Some experts believe that Mexico, which is one of the top three oil suppliers to the U.S., could become a net oil importer within the decade. Modelo trying desperately to be bought by Inbev (Anheuser) now. Fail your way to the top?
Subsequent reporting by Hopsicker revealed that the second plane, a Gulfstream II business jet (N987SA) which crash landed on the Yucatán peninsula in 2007 with four tons of coke on board, was registered to a "Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc." (DBA, or "doing business as") and was previously employed as a "private charter" that did "terrorist" rendition flights for, who else, the CIA! As Narco News journalist Bill Conroy revealed in 2008, "At the center of that controversy are allegations that the downed cocaine jet was part of a CIA-backed narco-trafficking operation." According to Conroy, the "key to the ill-fated Gulfstream II cocaine shipment is a prolific Colombian narco-trafficker and U.S. government informant named Jose Nelson Urrego Cardenas--who was recently arrested by police in Panama. Urrego allegedly played a major role in organizing the cocaine shipment as part of [Immigration and Customs Enforcement's] Mayan Express operation."
Despite facts laid out in Zambada's federal indictment "the alleged deal," Conroy wrote, "assured protection for the Sinaloa Cartel's business operations while also undermining its competition--such as the Vicente Carrillo Fuentes organization out of Juárez, Mexico, the murder capital of the world." "The alleged deal," Conroy averred, "assured protection for the Sinaloa Cartel's business operations while also undermining its competition--such as the Vicente Carrillo Fuentes organization out of Juárez, Mexico, the murder capital of the world." "At the same time," Narco News reported, "the information provided by the Sinaloa Cartel to US agencies against its rivals assures a steady flow of drug busts and media victory headlines for US agencies and for the Mexican government." Conroy pointed out, "That propaganda is necessary for hoodwinking their citizens into believing that progress is being made in the drug war and thereby assuring the continued funding of bloated drug-war budgets and support for failed policies that have cost the lives of some 50,000 Mexican citizens since late 2006 and ended any hope of a productive life for hundreds of thousands of US citizens--most wasting away in US prisons and not a small number the victims of street homicides linked to drug deals gone bad." Amongst the swindlers who have profited from cosy relations with the Agency, readers no doubt are reminded of Paul Helliwell's Castle Bank Bank & Trust; Michael Hand, Frank Nugan and Bernie Houghton's Nugan-Hand Bank; Agha Hasan Abedi's Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI); or more recently, as Antifascist Calling disclosed two years ago, convicted fraudster R. Allen Stanford's multibillion dollar Ponzi scheme disguised as a "full-service bank," Stanford International. That all four banks collapsed in ignominy and scandal as investors were bilked out of billions of dollars in deposits amid charges that these financial black holes were little more than conduits for organized crime and intelligence operations, only underscores the inescapable fact that for secret state outfits like the CIA, crime pays." Jose Juan Suarez Coppel
"It's an extension of the way they operate at home," Mejía said. "Go after the lower classes, the weak link in the chain--the little guy, to show results. Again, transferring the cost of the drug war on to the poorest, but not the financial system and the big business that moves all this along." Coppel Stores Sinaloa $16 Billion
According to Scott, this global criminal-elite nexus "maintains its own political influence by the systematic supply of illicit finances, favors and even sex to politicians around the world, including leaders of both parties in the United States. The result is a system that might be called indirect empire, one that, in its search for foreign markets and resources, is satisfied to subvert existing governance without imposing a progressive alternative." Scott's analysis has certainly been borne out by honest law enforcement officials. Martin Woods, a former senior detective with London's Metropolitan police anti-drugs squad joined Wachovia in 2005 as the bank's chief anti-money laundering investigator and paid a steep price for his diligence. Hounded out of his position when he refused to stop filing suspicious activity reports to headquarters in Charlotte over dubious deposit practices by Wachovia branches in London and Miami, Woods told The Observer: "New York and London have become the world's two biggest laundries of criminal and drug money, and offshore tax havens. Not the Cayman Islands, not the Isle of Man or Jersey. The big laundering is right through the City of London and Wall Street."
"Meanwhile," Woods said, "the drug industry has two products: money and suffering. On one hand, you have massive profits and enrichment. On the other, you have massive suffering, misery and death. You cannot separate one from the other." With hundreds of billions of dollars washing through the system each and every year, there aren't many incentives to collar the big boys. And you can take that to the bank... (Image courtesy of Daniel Hopsicker's MadCow Morning News) Tom Burghardt is a researcher and activist based in the San Francisco Bay Area. In addition to publishing in Covert Action Quarterly and Global Research, an independent research and media group of writers, scholars, journalists and activists based in Montreal, he is a Contributing Editor with Cyrano's Journal Today. His articles can be read on Dissident Voice, Pacific Free Press, Uncommon Thought Journal, and the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks. He is the editor of Police State America: U.S. Military "Civil Disturbance" Planning, distributed by AK Press and has contributed to the new book from Global Research, The Global Economic Crisis: The Great Depression of the XXI Century.
Living in the San Fagcisco Bay Area sure lends him credibility, doesn't it, mcgoon?
I take a little old lady grocery shopping and now you're posting stuff like a madman. I've got to take another break and watch some basketball and maybe horse racing at the local watering hole - three Derby prep races today. I'll catch up on this thread later on. Thanks for the ping.
Simple. The ZETAS/FARC are the good guys. At least they don't sell themselves to the Empire....;} And like FARC, the CIA has brought the Colombian Police Chief to Mexico to work his magic. The bomb blast was to force Privatization. Pemex is the last cash cow in Mexico. Jose Juan Suarez Coppel has shipped more wealth to the USSA from Mexico than anyone else. The ZETAs and FARC say hello.
He's yours, A K. You own him and ALL he says. The first time Tragedy. Second is Farce.....;}
You do know why they call you Mcloon don't you?
You do know that you're holding the short end of the stick, dontcha? Guns and Gays and Pro Birth and Israel.....that shite gets old, especially as the USSA is folding it's tent.... Market Rigging Election Fraud/Class Warfare/9.11 Climate Change Peak Oil Compare....which one you want to engage on, A K? ;}
Those are Cliff Notes I can understand. Thanks!
And there should be a religious character in here somewhere...;}: IMG]
lol
Peak Oil ROTFLOLAYDS!
lol See PEMEX bombed for details. Heard about Cantarell lately?
lol While you've been talking guns and gays, gasoline is the highest price ever for February... UK Oil Output Fell by Record 28% in September-November Posted on February 1, 2013 Oil Production in the North Sea IMG] You that don’t believe in Peak Oil can read this story: UK Oil Output Fell by Record 28% in September-November. by Dow Jones Newswires | Ben Winkley | Thursday, January 31, 2013 LONDON - The extent of the oil-production outage that contributed to tipping the U.K. economy into a fourth-quarter contraction was laid bare Thursday, as official statistics showed production of crude fell nearly 30% in the three months to November. aleklett.wordpress.com/2013/02/0 ... -november/
Arctic in Death Spiral. hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017. 2016 if the next two months don't produce snow.
According to some envirofreaks. Why are you so insanely gullible, mcgoon?
Don't forget your chicken little prediction of all the artic ice melted by the fall. http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32699&Disp=6
Yuk, The USSA's top and latest Snow ice Data for the Arctic. Rail at them. ;}
Yeah.....;} No. There isn't. Arctic Ice gone by next October. 3oC over 1760 Baseline by 2025. Poster Comment: We will check back next October McClown. And Fuck You on the McClown part......;} I stand by that. Getting w/in two years on a never before seen by humans Geophysical Event.....you bet. And 10 years left. 3oC is gonna be a bitch. See Beijing and Fukushima for details.
I don't have to. The envirofrauds have been exposed repeatedly. Why are you so insanely gullible, mcgoon? Or is it just plain bone stupidity?
And Fuck You on the McClown part......;} I stand by that. And I will rub your nose in it come October. If you are wrong will you re evaluate every position you have? You should it would do you some good.
O yes, yes you do....;} POTUS#44 stated that Climate Change is a fact. See anyone around the Imperial City diss him on that? ;}
LOL! WGAS besides you envirofrauds and freaks?
I've been wiping the floor with your arguements for how long now? Months? YEars has it been? You're gonna find an ice cube and say I'm wrong? While the North Pole is ice free? Gonna get technical? please. Climate Change this October, we'll be busy with the Ongoing Drought, longest in 600 years. And somewhere on the Coast seeing Demolition from a Bigger Sandy. You get ready to rub.....;}
CLimate Change continues. And accelerates. Arctic Ice in Death Spiral.
Since never.
Everyone. " And the working class are thinking to-day more than ever before. And, thinking, they begin to see that hand-clapping, fife-playing, drum-beating and buncombe from a prostituted orator are neither freedom nor justice, nor even the sign of such; but are, rather, just what Mark Twain called them* —a "bastard patriotism." The motive of the young men who voluntarily join the army or the militia is possibly, in many cases, a good motive. Perhaps they do not see the tricks of the string-pullers behind the scenes, the powerful motives of the industrial masters be-hind the curtains. Like hungry wolves hotly eager in sight of prey, like clouds of vultures swooping confidently over a field strewn with a vile feast—thus the capitalist nations are gathering together their drums, their rifles, cannon, dynamite,. lyddite, embalmed beef, hospitals, soldiers, marines, battleships, and boat-de-stroyers, preparing to assemble for bloody struggles. There is talk of peace—but preparation for war.
Can you promise orange groves and banana trees to the Arctic inhabitants soon, mcgoon?
Lift up your meek faces, you tricked toilers of the world. The war trenches are yawning for your lives—a gulf in which the hopes, the happiness, the blood and the tears of your class will be swallowed. Refuse. When you understand, brothers, you will defend yourselves. The day is dawning when the working class will not only shrewdly refuse to be tricked to the trenches, but will also proudly seize all the powers of government in defense of the working class. The working class must defend the working class. The state, the school, the press, the lecture platform, and even part of the church, all these powerful institutions, are at present used to fasten and hold the burdens of toil and the curse of war on the backs of the brutalized and despised working-class producers and the working-class destroyers. It is our move, brothers. Have we sense enough for self-defense?
The one where you claimed the oil disaster would result in the deaths of a million people, drama queen? The beaches are crawling with snowbirds!
just plain bone stupidity You sure do have a collection of Obama pictures, Calfag bushbot/hondouche. You can't seem to hide your love and admiration.
Mcgoon, did you know the toothbrush was invented in Arkansas? Had it been invented anywhere else it would have been called a teethbrush.
Gay is good. I see no problem with it.....;}
There is nothing wrong with being Gay and GOP. Log Cabin afficionados have a place here at mcgowanjm wire 2013.... ;}
Gays can want to heal the planet. They can also help corporations like bp.
Jewnopoly. Jews have no problem with Gays. Why should anyone here disagree with that position. " From the brilliant mind of Noor at "Snippits and Snappits blog. Jewnopoly is played on many levels, as evidenced by the ZOG owned psyops industry called Hollywood, a land of smoke and shadows that never tires of putting out mind-numbing holocau$t movies, 178 to date and that doesn't include documentaries or endless 'TalmudVision' outlets like the 'Hitler Channel,' uh, excuse me, the History Channel, which produces endless amounts propaganda, lining up Iran, Mali, Niger, Syria etc. for the next 'Shock and Awe' campaign waged by GOYIM troops, fighting and dying to keep Apartheid Israel safe from reality and to keep their brethren at the numerous Federal Reserve type of banks safe, by ensuring that the ZOG banking fronts are filled with gold. The 1990's was a BIG year for holocau$t movies, priming the gullible GOYIM for the 9/11 FALSE FLAG/INSIDE JOB. And a BIG year for holocau$t docs. Gotta keep the sheeple on message with a steady stream of holocau$t themed movies or ones showing Arabs/Muslims/Persians wanting to kill Americans. DreamWorks’ WikiLeaks Movie A “Massive Propaganda Attack” The movie, the “The Fifth Estate" is being filmed by "DreamWorks," a Holocau$tland Jewish run movie factory founded by Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen, who would love for the USA to fight another war to protect their "shitty little country," Apartheid Israel."
It is not MC. Pray, Get to know God and repent. 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come . 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded , lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away . 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning , and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
It is not MC. Pray, Get to know God and repent. Hell, don't talk to me. Talk to your newest bestest buddy....;}
Colombia comes to Mexico. The War on Drugs is here. Get ready for San Anton, El Paso, San Diego running gun battles.....;} "Vega alleges that in the late 1990s and early 2000s, agents in the DEA office in Bogotá, as well as someone within U.S. Customs, were leaking information about ongoing U.S. law enforcement investigations to key players in the Colombian National Police. Vega says those corrupt CNP officials were aligned with North Valley Cartel narco-traffickers, in particular a faction of that cartel led by an individual named Wilber Varela." Remember Wilber Varela.....he's bestest buddies with Naranjo, El Presidente Pena Nieto's new Security officer. Except Narranjo's not dealing with Colombians now....;} PEMEX/Los ZETAS v the Oligarchy/CIA...... narcosphere.narconews.com...et-empower-devil-s-cartel Mexico’s New President Set to Empower a “Devil’s Cartel”
To a pervert like you.
To perverts like you.
With AIDS? You're insane!
Those are just voices you hear in your empty cranium, crackpot.
irelandafternama.wordpres...g-in-a-haunted-landscape/ Notice that Israel has no housing bubble? No finance problems?
Those are just voices you hear in your empty cranium, crackpot. In Context: #140. To: A K A Stone, Yukon, All (#139) Gay is good. I see no problem with it.....;} It is not MC. Pray, Get to know God and repent. Hell, don't talk to me. Talk to your newest bestest buddy....;}
www.thesocialcontract.com...sc1602/article_1362.shtml
Talk to your newest bestest buddy....;} Did a k a Loser run his new bestest buddy away?
You're an abnormal crackpot, mcgoon.
Ethyl, why are you such a spineless wimp? You're even worse than mcgoon.
You're a regular crackpot, which is worse.
Coming from a lying, anti-American, Califagnia retread, Paultard, that is totally meaningless, except to other liars and lunatics.
The cool SSTs in the eastern Pacific initiate and reinforce air circulations that generally keep precipitation away from the Southwest and Midwest US. This doesn’t mean that drought will be ever-present; only that we are potentially forcing the climate system toward more frequent drought conditions in these regions. Some years will still be wet or normal; other years (increasing in number) will be dry.
Did a k a Loser run his new bestest buddy away? I don't know, but I love Gays. They're expensive and tasteful. ;}
Thanks! I love you too!
[img]1.bp.blogspot.com/-t1zrpF...troleum_html_22336159.png [quote] Dear Readers, I begin this post as my preceding one ended: with the graph of the forecast for petroleum production contained in the last annual report of the International Energy Agency (IEA), referring to its central (or main) scenario on New Policies. This graph, as earlier mentioned, shows that on a global level production of crude oil soon will begin its decline.[/quote]
Thanks! I love you too! ;}
You're a regular crackpot, which is worse. BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....;} I loved the Doritos Crossdressers..... I think Pink really sets off my skin color......8D
And I resent that remark. No one's worse than me...... Maybe I shoulda joined the Air Force and become a nurse.... BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....;}
You're an abnormal crackpot, mcgoon. 'abnormal crackpot' That's an Oxymoron......;}
EROEI = Te/Ep Where Te is the total energy produced by a source and Ep is the energy required for its production with both taken over the entire usable lifetime of the source in question.
#124. To: Fred Mertz, All (#123) An Associated Press (AP) article today provided details: "The real story is what's missing," said Jesse Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney who obtained the recordings. "Four cameras in four different locations going blank at basically the same time on the morning of April 19, 1995. There ain't no such thing as a coincidence," Trentadue said. "The interesting thing is they spring back on after 9:02," he said. "The absence of footage from these crucial time intervals is evidence that there is something there that the FBI doesn't want anybody to see." The FBI in the past refused to release the security camera recordings, leading Trentadue and others to contend the government was hiding evidence that others were involved in the attack. "It's taken a lawsuit and years to get the tapes," Trentadue said. Trentadue's brother Kenneth died in the Oklahoma City bombing, possibly murdered by officials who mistook him for the bomber. As stated in the AP article, "A judge in 2001 awarded Kenneth Trentadue's family $1.1 million for extreme emotional distress in the government's handling of his death." This lead the deceased's brother Jesse to search deeper into the bombing, where he came up with lots more evidence that did not match the official story. " Cutting to the Chase. Operation Bojinka was part and parcel of Operation Cyclone. Which led to the 93 WTC Bombing. Then the New and improved Murrah Building Bombing. Good but not good enough. So next Nairobi. And that's better. We're ready for 9/11....Combo of Operation Bojinka and Nairobi.
And here you go. EXACTLY as TARIQ AZIZ said. The USSA SHIPPED YASIN to IRAQ where he was IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED. Tower of the World Trade Center killed six people and left a crater six stories deep. It could have been much worse. In her book, "The War Against America: Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks," Laurie Mylroie says that the bomb was designed to topple the North Tower into the South Tower and envelop the scene in a cloud of cyanide gas. Hearing the case, Judge Kevin Duffy agreed, saying that if the plan had worked, "we would have been dealing with tens of thousands of deaths." After the bombing, the FBI rounded up four Muslims who moved in extremist circles in the New York area. Three others escaped overseas: a Palestinian, an Iraqi named Abdul Yasin, and Ramzi Yousef. Ms. Mylroie's book argues that Iraq was complicit in this attack. At the very least, she notes, Saddam Hussein is harboring a wanted terrorist: Abdul Yasin. He came to the U.S. six months before the Trade Center attack and is charged with helping mix chemicals for the bomb. Picked up in an early sweep after the bombing, he talked his way out of an FBI interrogation and turned up back in Baghdad. MYLROIE's job is to implicate SADDAM via YASIN. Which is why WOOLSEY has a HARD ON for both DAVIS & MYLROIE..... mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-11 10:10:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit
After fleeing in the wake of the 1993 bombing, Yousef/Basit made his way to the Philippines, where he planted a bomb that killed the passenger taking his seat after he disembarked from a plane on the island of Cebu. Police investigating a fire in a Manila apartment he occupied found a laptop computer with plans to bomb 12 U.S. jets simultaneously. Yousef escaped but was later apprehended in Pakistan and turned over to U.S. authorities. He was convicted in both the Trade Center attack and the plane-bombing plot. One of Yousef's confederates, Abdul Hakin Murad, was arrested at the Manila apartment and later convicted in the U.S. in the plane plot. While in custody in the Philippines, he told investigators that he and Yousef had discussed hijacking a jet and crashing it into CIA headquarters. According to a January 1995 Manila police report, Murad said "he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters. There will be no bomb or any explosive that he will use in its execution. It is simply a suicidal mission that he is very much willing to execute."
But, but...the US goobermint never considered anyone would ever use a jumbo jet for a missile! That's what BushCo admin said again and again.
19 • November 6, 1990 (page 58) Later, at Nosair’s New Jersey house, FBI agents and NYPD detectives seize 47 boxes of evi- dence, including bomb recipes, Arabic writings threatening the WTC, and Ali Mohamed’s top secret memos stolen from Fort Bragg. Abouhal- ima and Salameh are seized as material witnesses but later set free. Abouhalima Salameh TripleCrossINSERT_01-09_2nd 10/16/06 3:34 PM Page 4 Page 5 5 24 • 1991 (page 65) Nosair’s cousin Ibrahim El-Gabrowny gets $20,000 from bin Laden for Nosair’s defense. The FBI later admits that this is the first time bin Laden’s name comes up in association with the New York cell members around the blind Sheikh. El-Gabrowny bin Laden 25 • Fall 1991 (page 79) FBI Special Agent Nancy Floyd recruits Emad Salem, an ex–Egyptian Army major, to infiltrate the blind Sheikh’s cell. He’s paid $500 a week by the Bureau. The agreement with the FBI is that Salem will act as a pure intelligence “asset.” He will not have to wear a wire or testify. Floyd Salem 23 • 1991 (page 76) Osama bin Laden chooses Ali Mohamed to handle security as he makes the treacherous move from Afghanistan to the Sudan with his 25 wives and children. Ayman al-Zawahiri, Mohammed Atef, and the al Qaeda Shura Council make the move under Ali’s supervision, along with two thousand “Afghan Arabs” loyal to al Qaeda. Atef al-Zawahiri Mohamed bin Laden 22 • 1991 (page 66) A power struggle breaks out between Sheikh Rahman and Mustafa Shalabi, Abdullah Azzam’s hand- picked imam, who runs the Alkifah Center. Shalabi appeals to Ali Mohamed for help. Ali drives Shalabi’s wife to the airport as Mustafa plans to escape home to Cairo. But he never makes it. Shalabi is later found shot, stabbed, and bludgeoned with a baseball bat at his Seagate, Brooklyn, home. Abouhalima IDs the body for the NYPD, but is never charged. The voice of Wadih El-Hage, a Lebanese Christian convert to Islam, is heard on Shalabi’s answering machine. Thousands of dollars in Alkifah funds are missing from the crime scene. Ali Mohamed has secreted away most of the Alkifah’s most incriminating documents. The murder in the NYPD’s 61st Precinct remains unsolved.
But, but...the US goobermint never considered anyone would ever use a jumbo jet for a missile! That's what BushCo admin said again and again. And OVER and OVER and OVER, from 1988. EVERY Al Qaeda/OBL/IRaq Story from Operation Bojimka on. Planes will be hijacked, turned into flying bombs and crashed into buildings..... Every one. And No One at FBI/CIA has been reprimanded in amy way shape or form. FBI Agent Bowman was REWARDED for stopping the FISA Warrant on Moussoaui that kept Ali Mohamed's name from surfacing.
WTF!? Who in their right mind would do this!? Yousef told Scarpa that Osama bin Laden was known as Bojinga, as distinguished from the scheme to place bombs on 11 airliners that was called Bojinka. During one phone call through Roma Corporation, Yousef, talking in coded message, discussed the bombing of a U.S. airliner. A month later, TWA Flight 800 blew up shortly after taking off from New York’s JFK Airport. No! I'm Not talking about Blowing up planes and Crashing them into Buildings. I'm talking about Osama Bin Laden! LMFAO.....This would be StoryLine #2, the FBI/CIA KeystoneAgent ProvocateurCops. mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12
#215. To: All (#213) WE DID 9/11 One note on one of the boxes read, “We had to thoroughly demoralize the enemies of God. This is to be done by means of destroying and blowing up the towers that constitute the pillars of their civilization, such as the tourist attractions they're so proud of and the high buildings they're so proud of.” In fact, a law enforcement official told the Los Angeles Times in 1993 that the materials “described major conspiracies and provided a road map to the bombing of the World Trade Center and the subsequent plot.” All that rhetoric and no response? FBI, shame on you again. mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 13:58:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #216. To: All (#215) (Edited) I've never heard this before, about the bombs being found. And Nichols was NOT in the Ryder truck. Jon Doe #2 was.....;} " Worse, could it be that what was really emerging was a pattern of false flag attacks on the US, going forward to the Oklahoma City bombings of the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995? That bloody catastrophe was supposedly caused by a Ryder Truck containing an ANFO bomb, driven there by two lone gunmen, Timothy McVeigh, executed for it by lethal injection June 11, 2001, and Terry Nichols later jailed for life for it. As of November 8, 2006, Nichols was still trying to blow the whistle on the FBI's involvement in it and being denied access to reporters. Also, first responders that awful day found two other live bombs and the remains of an exploded bomb. The live bombs were at each end of the building and subsequently removed and defused. The exploded bomb in the middle of the building was the one that caused the major damage and murder. The ANFO truck-bomb blow-up was basically a ruse. www.davidicke.com/forum/a...e/index.php/t-217479.html mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 14:00:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #217. To: All (#0) an AP story titled Gov't Log Details Oklahoma City (BOMBING Surveillance Tape) Footage: "Security video tapes from the area show the truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the suspects exited the truck," the Secret Service reported six days after the attack on a log of agents' activities and evidence in the Oklahoma investigation.” An OKC AP reporter Paul Qaery wrote of his interview with a federal law enforcement official who told Qaery that he had viewed a surveillance tape of the Ryder truck when it was parked in front of the Hurrah building. The tape referred to by the federal law enforcement source very likely would have been the same tape described by the Secret Service log because the source in Qaery’s story gives the same time given by the log, THREE MINUTES BEFORE the truck bomb exploded. Qaery’s AP story was picked up and republished on page A4 of the Kansas City Star on October 28, 1995 in the article entitled “Camera saw figure in bomb truck, Oklahoma City video is unclear, but it may show John Doe No. 2” mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 19:21:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #218. To: All (#217) But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it. A log entry on April 25 states that the security footage allowed agents to determine the time that elapsed between suspects leaving the truck and the explosion. An entry a day earlier on the same log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building. "A witness to the explosion named Grossman claimed to have seen a pale yellow Mercury car with a Ryder truck behind it pulling up to the federal building," the log said. The witness "further claimed to have seen a woman on the corner waving to the truck." mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 19:23:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #219. To: Fred Mertz, All (#218) New documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service provided prosecutors other evidence that may not have been provided to defense lawyers, including a file showing the Secret Service agent who reconstructed crucial phone evidence against McVeigh was subjected to an internal affairs investigation and eventually cleared for her conduct in the case. FBI officials say that file details allegations the agent wrongly collected grand jury-subpoenaed phone information about McVeigh's calls without FBI knowledge, and kept it for weeks while she produced analysis that helped the investigation. The internal investigation caused complications for prosecutors. They decided it tainted the agent as a witness and they chose instead to hire an outside expert to re-do the phone analysis for trial, officials said. Bopp said the Secret Service did nothing wrong. "The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said. "The expertise of the Secret Service on electronic crimes and telecommunications provided unique and timely information to the ongoing investigation." mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:18:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #220. To: All (#219) "There's a shape in there, but they can't see a face,'' the source said of footage, which was taken by a camera on a nearby apartment building. The camera picked up the shadowy passenger about THREE MINUTES before the bomb went off April 19 at the Murrah Federal Building." mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:22:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #221. To: All (#220) What makes the existence of the surveillance tape plausible at one time (may have now been destroyed) is not only the precise times given, but also that a number of OKC bombing witnesses precisely corroborate what the Secret Service tape log described, namely that accomplices were helping McVeigh park his Ryder truck in front of the Murrah building. Here is more from the same article referenced above, “(Secret Service) Gov't Log Details Oklahoma City (BOMBING Surveillance Tape) Footage”: “An entry a day earlier on the same (Secret Service) log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building. A Secret Service agent named McNally "noted that this fact is significant due to the fact that the security video shows the Ryder truck pulling up to the Federal Building and then pausing (7 to 10 seconds) before resuming into the slot in front of the building," the log said. "It is speculated that the woman was signaling the truck when a slot became available." mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:23:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #222. To: All (#221) Numerous witnesses also described two Middle Eastern men in a late model Brown Chevy truck with a bug shield parked in front of the Murrah building as McVeigh was parking the Ryder truck. Witness accounts have these two men also helping McVeigh. The brown Chevy truck and its drivers were the subject of an FBI APB for two weeks in OKC after the bombing. Leah Moore photographed the brown Chevy and the Ryder truck in front of Murrah at the same time that the Secret Service tape log says McVeigh was being helped to park the Ryder truck. The FBI confiscated Moore’s photos and told her not to talk to a famous LA times reporter, Richard A. Serrano, who came to see Moore about the photos. mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:25:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #223. To: All (#222) Dana Bradley testified in the Nichols federal trial that, while looking out of the Murrah Social Security office, Bradley saw a Middle Eastern looking man get out of the passenger side of the Ryder truck as it was parked in front of the Murrah building. KTOK radio reporter Carie Hulsey interviewed witnesses live at the scene within 5 minutes after the bombing who told the KTOK radio audience they had seen two Middle Eastern men running down the street and jump into the Brown Chevy a few minutes before the Ryder truck exploded. The Middle Eastern looking men yelled at each other "lets hurry up and get out of here." The same Brown Chevy truck was spotted by witness Kay Herron a few blocks away and strongly identified one of the men inside the brown truck as McVeigh associate and FBI/CIA provocateur and informant, the Iraqi, Al Hussain Hussaini brought to OKC by HW Bush and CIA director James Woolsey after the first Gulf War. Woolsey is extremely close to Fox news and HW Bush and GW Bush. Hussaini was never interviewed by the FBI and disappeared while working at Boston Logan airport as a baggage handler up until the time of the 9-11 attacks. mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:27:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #224. To: All (#223) Danny Wilkerson saw McVeigh outside of the Ryder truck when it was first parked in front of the Regency Towers. Wilkerson said that McVeigh was looking up the street toward the Murrah building waiting on a parking spot. Wilkinson has said that McVeigh came into his snack shop at the Regency Towers and that a John Doe was inside the Ryder truck when Wilkerson spoke to McVeigh and the Ryder truck was parked in front of the Regency Towers. A surveillance camera at the Regency towers recorded what Wilkinson saw and the FBI and DOJ have only released portions of this tape. The FBI and DOJ have excluded the portions showing McVeigh walking in front of the Ryder truck and the John Doe sitting on the passenger side of the truck. mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:28:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #225. To: All (#224) The Fox producer Peter Russo also falsely characterized to me what defense Stephen Jones has said about not receiving ALL the surveillance tapes in the OKC bombing. Fox producers also rejected my attempts to get Fox to report that the DOJ and FBI refused to turn over surveillance tapes as described in a ruling by Federal judge Wayne Alley in a FOIA lawsuit brought by OKC attorney Mike Johnston and plaintiff David Hoffman. Mike Johnston won a ruling from OKC Federal judge Alley sharply critical of the FBI, OKC bombing trial presiding federal judge Robert Matsch, and DOJ for their intentional refusal to turn over ALL surveillance tapes relevant to the OKC bombing, This was reported in this Daily Oklahoman article on August 16, 2001 by Robert Boczkiewicz entitled “District judge criticizes FBI for keeping bomb files secret “ mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:29:05 ET
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TOLD U.....;} According to The Mail story, Petraeus’s ousters were,’high-level career officers on the CIA who got the ball rolling on the investigation’. The Mail exclusive goes on to explain how the Petraeus story unfolded and triggered a ‘palace coup’: “The authors say that senior intelligence officers working on the 7th floor of Central Intelligence headquarters in Langley, Virginia, used their political clout to ensure that the FBI investigated the former Army general’s personal life. They then told Petraeus that they would publicly humiliate him if he didn’t admit the affair and resign. ‘It was well known to Petraeus’s Personal Security Detachment (bodyguards) that he and Broadwell were having an affair. He wasn’t the only high-ranking Agency head or general engaged in extramarital relations, but when the 7th floor wanted Petraeus out, they cashed in their chips,’ Webb and Murphy write. The book continues: ‘The reality of the situation is that high-ranking CIA officers had already discovered the affair by consulting with Petraeus’s PSD and then found a way to initiate an FBI investigation in order to create a string of evidence and an investigative trail that led to the information they already had—in other words, an official investigation that could be used to force Petraeus to resign.’ … Senior officials were furious over the way he had been running the agency since he was appointed in September 2011… He was turning the agency’s focus from intelligence gathering and analysis to paramilitary operations, including drone strikes.” What they reveal about the Petraeus scandal is that the sensational extramarital affair was deployed in the media in order to keep the public distracted from the real story
Thanx, Fred.....keepin' me on my toes.....;} #2378. To: All (#2377) AND HERE WE GO The LAPD Got their Man How They Wanted Him: Dead Wed, 02/13/2013 - 11:10 by: Dave Lindorff "Burn that fuckin' house down...Fucking burn this motherfucker!!" --Voices overheard on police radio at the scene of the cabin where Chris Dorner was trapped and burned to death It was clear from the outset when fired LAPD cop Chris Dorner began wreaking his campaign of vengeance and terror against his former employer that the California law enforcement establishment, led by the LAPD itself, had no interest in Dorner surviving to face trial, where he could continue to rat out the racist and corrupt underbelly of the one of the country’s biggest police departments. Dorner, as I wrote earlier, claimed he had been fired for speaking up during his three years on the force, through channels and to superior officers, about incidents he had witnessed of police brutality and of the rampant racism that permeates the department -- not just white on black, but black on Asian, Asian on Latino and Latino on white. His response to being sacked -- threatening to kill senior officers he blamed for this law enforcement distopia as well as some of their family members -- was criminally insane, but his complaints, made in a 6000-word post on Facebook, had and continue to have the ring of truth. www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1582 mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-14 11:42:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2379. To: mcgowanjm (#2378) Shouldn't this be in the 2013 wire thread? You're welcome. Fred Mertz posted on 2013-02-14 11:47:33 ET
This is not a coincidence: Pope appoints Ernst von Freyberg new Vatican bank head BBC News - 4 hours ago - 316 related articles » Outgoing Pope Benedict XVI selects German lawyer Ernst von Freyberg to head the Vatican's embattled bank as one of his last major ... Pope Oks German lawyer to head embattled Vatican bank Medicine Hat News - 2 hours ago - 22464 related articles » New Head of Vatican Bank Expected Within Week ABC News - 2 days ago - 134 related articles » German financier named new Vatican bank chief www.globalpost.com/.../ne...-new-vatican-bank-chief-0 1 hour ago ... The Vatican on Friday named a German financier as head of its scandal-hit ... of a historic company that made warships and planes in Nazi Germany. ... /news/afp/ 130215/german-financier-named-new-vatican-bank-chief-0 ...
Via ACEA, Looking at the major markets, only the UK posted growth (+11.5%), while downturn prevailed in Germany (-8.6%), Spain (-9.6%), France (-15.1%) and Italy (-17.6%). In absolute figures, Germany remained the largest market with 192,090 new registrations, followed by the UK (143,643 units), France (124,798) and Italy (113,525). Spain registered 49,671 new cars, which was slightly less than Belgium (50,684 units). Via Reuters, ... After falling to a 17-year low in 2012, European car demand is expected to contract further this year, squeezing mass-market brands still harder between excess capacity and cut-throat pricing. Most carmakers see the regional market shrinking between 3 and 5 percent in 2013. Tentative hints of a broader euro zone economic upturn have yet to percolate to the car industry. Germany in particular is weighing on the outlook. After resisting much of last year's slump, Europe's biggest car market is in sharp decline, extended by an 8.6 percent drop in January. zerohedge
IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-56_g2L...th-spiral-1979-201301.png You pick when the black line hits zero. I say this September. One more 'cut' in the 'spiral' and we're there.....;}
The goal was to keep the community’s money from getting siphoned off to Arkansas or China or Goldman-Sachistan; the more money that remains and circulates locally, the better off the whole community will be. Hand-in-hand with pursuing this goal was a nascent resurgence of local culture and civic engagement that could actually get most everyone on the same page.
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:32 am by mcgowanjm mcgowanjm wrote:wait until AFTER the MSM reports what actually happened Do this and you'll be one of the first to go. Nothing gets reported unless and until the Top 50 000 have made the necessary adjustments. Ex: There's not a single catastrophe story where the Elite aren't: keeping the secret putting out the 'be calm' meme. while they make every effort to 'stop the 'X' or get the fuck out of dodge......;} It will be no different this time. You'll be told when they're in flight to their 'safe house'. Just. Like. This. The TWO year FLAG Formation has been broken. We're now deciding how long the Pole is..... I say $1200, which will Then take it to $800. What do we get in return for 88.8 million barrels per day? People laugh at the Medievals but they left behind some nice towns and useful buildings. What do we have to show … for the million barrels … burned up for nothing every single day for decades? We have some used cars, some potholed ‘infrastructure’, millions of ugly buildings … we’re bankrupt. In order to burn the 88.8 million barrels we’ve had to borrow billions of dollars from bankers and finance every day, as well, The total amount we owe to the financiers is $640 TRILLION dollars (Bank for International Settlements, PDF warning)! Don’t listen to the soothing bromides of the analysts.
5. 6. somebody After the assassination, Dubai had copies of the passports but no direct proof that there was anything wrong with them. In particular, the Dubai authorities had no reason to suspect the Australian passports, not even part of the initial investigation, were part of a cache of iffy passports issued to members of the Melbourne Jewish community as part of an ongoing Mossad operation. When Zygier heard about the assassination, he knew immediately what had happened, and was probably outraged because the Mossad misled him about how the passports would be used (they probably told him it would be limited to economic sabotage against Iran), and how this might affect Jewish life in Australia (the combination of incompetence and sheer arrogance in the Mossad Dubai operation, together with the misuse of the passports, put the position of all Jews in Australia in question). Zygier went to the ASIO and told them about the passport gathering operation. Somebody in the ASIO told somebody in Dubai intelligence (almost certainly without permission, given how the ASIO has otherwise assisted the Mossad), and Dubai was able to put all the pieces of the assassination together. Alarms went off in the Mossad, and they immediately started an investigation about who told the ASIO, and Zygier was betrayed either by somebody in his family, somebody in the Jewish community, or by the ASIO itself. Zygier, unaware of the betrayal, returned voluntarily to Israel, where he was imprisoned, and later murdered, in order to prevent anybody from putting the pieces of the Mossad passport gathering operations together.
The Mossad's misleading timeline was used to prove that the issue couldn't be about the Dubai assassination, and an alternative Zionist theory was planted to presumably create doubts in Iran. In fact, the real timeline supports the thesis that Zygier was the source of the information that the Australian passports were dodgy, something Dubai could not possibly have otherwise known as they were real and legitimate Australian passports. Why is this so important that Bibi has to go out of his way to misdirect us? It is not just the misuse of passports (though these revelations may put a crimp for now in their gathering and use). It is the fact that the entire Jewish state is founded on a series of false-flag operations.
driftglass.blogspot.com/ These are the wedge issues the GOP dredges up cycle after cycle to crank the Base of the Party up to Scared Shitless and White Hot Loco just in time for each election. It is why the GOP can fuck up whole countries and leave entire American cities to die without fear of being voted out of office 99-to-1 in every district everywhere. Because if you give mouthbreathers enough fags, burning flags and Terror Alerts around election time it’ll crowd the entire record of Republican perfidy, bloodshed and failure right out of their itty bitty heads. The Propaganda Pumps
The base of the democratic party is rapists, sex perverts, murderers, thieves and coveters.
;} Great movie last night. The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012) - Box Office Mojo http://www.boxofficemojo.com/mov...rksofbeingawallflower.htm - Cached The Perks of Being a Wallflower summary of box office results, charts and release ... Box Office Mojo and IMDb are trademarks or registered trademarks of ... adapted from The Perks of Being a Wallflower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perks_of_Being_a_Wallflower - Cached - Similar The Perks of Being a Wallflower is a coming-of-age epistolary novel written by American novelist Stephen Chbosky. It was published on February 1, 1999 by ... # # http://Amazon.com: The Perks of Being a Wallflower (9781451696196 ... http://www.amazon.com/Perks-Bein...wer-Stephen.../1451696191 - Cached $7.88 - In stock What is most notable about this funny, touching, memorable first novel from Stephen Chbosky is the resounding accuracy with which the author captures the ... On pre cognition of child abuse/rape football 1999 Sandusky Penn State it's really Creepy....;} Police in Texas to investigate Penn State's 1999 Alamo Bowl trip ... http://www.nydailynews.com/.../p...owl-trip-article-1.976141 Nov 11, 2011 ... Penn State players carry Jerry Sandusky off field following coach's final game with team, the 1999 Alamo Bowl in San Antonio, where police are ...
There is Only the Party of Property ;} At the Top 50 000 Everything bows to power. This is Planet Hell.....;} Great movie last night. The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012) - Box Office Mojo http://www.boxofficemojo.com/mov...rksofbeingawallflower.htm - Cached The Perks of Being a Wallflower summary of box office results, charts and release ... Box Office Mojo and IMDb are trademarks or registered trademarks of ... adapted from The Perks of Being a Wallflower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perks_of_Being_a_Wallflower - Cached - Similar The Perks of Being a Wallflower is a coming-of-age epistolary novel written by American novelist Stephen Chbosky. It was published on February 1, 1999 by ... # # http://Amazon.com: The Perks of Being a Wallflower (9781451696196 ... http://www.amazon.com/Perks-Bein...wer-Stephen.../1451696191 - Cached $7.88 - In stock What is most notable about this funny, touching, memorable first novel from Stephen Chbosky is the resounding accuracy with which the author captures the ... On pre cognition of child abuse/rape football 1999 Sandusky Penn State it's really Creepy....;} Police in Texas to investigate Penn State's 1999 Alamo Bowl trip ... http://www.nydailynews.com/.../p...owl-trip-article-1.976141 Nov 11, 2011 ... Penn State players carry Jerry Sandusky off field following coach's final game with team, the 1999 Alamo Bowl in San Antonio, where police are ...
Notice how the USSA MSM Refuses to talk about the Italian Elections today? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I saw that Robin wanted to ban you on the new Pope thread - I'll guess she's Catholic - a few days ago. Petey lasted a day or so. War asked them to delete his account and she did. Another one bites the dust. I lost my 93 year-old girlfriend today and we have one inch of snow on the ground. I'll be visiting Oaklawn Park after Easter weekend.
Now lets see if Fred Mertz is a hypocrite. You need to go over to the peoples scrotum and demand that MCgowanjm be reinstated. Or are you afraid of Robin? I think you are afraid of her. One more thing. If cunt Robin is a Catholic why does she support Obama? She isn't a Catholic. Or at least not a real one. A hypocrite is that cunt.
I didn't last all day. War asked them to delete his account and she did. I don't remember war having any input,but miningforgold was right there at my first post demanding I be banned,and it wasn't even directed at her. Now she has followed me over here,to LP,and to True Blue Liberty,where she does nothing but attack and bait me. Then again,why be surprised when such a tiny little mind has such a tiny little life? Ironically enough,she was over there claiming to be a conservative and a disgusted life-long Republican,so there IS a chance she may be war's retarded sister.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He and Ferret Mike were two of the posters over there that demanded she re-instate me,and IIRC they both told her to remove them from the roster of registered posters to her site if she didn't. BTW,they weren't the only ones. They are just the two I remember because I have swapped posts with them for so long. I have a horrible memory for names,and a even worse memory for screen names.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Let me re-phrase that; War asked Robin to delete War's account on The People's Forum after a back and forth engagement wiff someone(s). I'm going to rename sneakypete and mininggold - the Punch and Judy Show
I've heard through the grapevine that Viagra works wonders.
LOL!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
More like flunkies than leaders.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Fascinating. First time I've read of this; thanks. What I find fascinating is this seems to have only happened to non-wite people living in America. Kinda like it was only "inner city youts" that ate the paint off the walls in the government-provided housing they lived in.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Fred,if you expect unbiased reporting from Mother Jones,you probably also think Stormfront provides balanced reporting.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Barry is no longer a commie. He and the First Wookie have had a taste of the privileged life now,and are now devout fascists. Commies don't get to fly to Paris to go shopping.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Oh man...sorry to hear of that...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
#1. To: Robin (#0) "Two or three issues need further work." 1) 40 % Tax on everyone's bank account. 2) Capitol Controls which prevents flight of rest of bank money 3) How to stop the Bank Runs from Then happening in Spain/Italy/Portugal/What's left of Greece. 3a)How to save the Euro once Capitol Controls are placed on an EU state......;} Other than that, we're good to go.... "Your "contributions" here are no longer wanted. You have other places to post your garbage. " mcgowanjm posted on 2013-03-24 8:45:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
I see Skip is posting over there...tell him I said "Hey..."
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Really? One of those "friend of a friend of a friend" things? (G)
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I will say this, oysters are supreme for staying power. Red meat is also great.
Those are probably the terms Nolu Chan is demanding in order to grace it again with his presence. He's quite special you know.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Red meat is also great. Being healthy and not having cardiovascular disease helps too.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You mean the tag team of domer and sneakypete wasn't met with open arms by Robin?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
So you're basically saying Robin will ban people in order to get others there. To bad you don't have the balls to call her on it to her face. bock bcok
You are waaaaay too obsessed with Robin, much as you are with most women posters who don't see eye to eye with you on the internet.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Other than that, we're good to go.... ;}
The cypriots of America. The poor. Where lead based paint and substandard housing are right next to railroads/interstates.... you know the deal....;}
I'll be visiting Oaklawn Park after Easter weekend. Sorry to hear that. The weather's stressful and that's a very high number. Easter should be snow free in Hot Springs.....8D Good Luck!
Did your good friend Fred Mertz speak up for you at the peoples scrotum? Or is he a faux friend?
Rule Number One: You want a friend? Get a dog. I got 3.....;} Rule Number Two: I expect no support. Ever. A Good Revolution works this way.
Excellent advice. I haven't replaced my 16 year-old dog yet. She's irreplaceable; but one of these months I'll need a new best friend.
Did you consult with a mental health expert yet?
I see Fred is to much of a coward to stand up for you to Robin. He unlike you is afraid of Robin.
It was likely your pal nolu_chan who pulled the plug on mcgowanjm. I haven't been there in two days now.
No it was cunt Robin. You're a coward for not calling her on it. What did Mc do?
You mean people who weren't poor didn't have houses painted with lead-based paint? What kind of paint did the "non-poor" use in their mansions? Or could it be their children had better sense than to be eating paint?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
What kind of paint did the "non-poor" use in their mansions? When you pretend ignorance, sp, your body does it's best to help you....;} The Point: The Instant the Top 1% recognize DANgER, they leave. Think Morgan Stanley leasing jets out of Tokyo on Mar 12 2011..... Who's Left? Want a Great Deal on a World Trade Center with a Small Asbestos problem? Tell you what. I'll give you a 99 year lease right now. No questions asked. ;}
And they're eating paint cause they're hungry. And/or it's flaking off in their hands. You live in a house with Paint Flaking off the walls, sp? Think that should be allowed?
What Americans Ideal Wealth distribution is. What Americans Think the Wealth Distribution is. What Americans Reality of the wealth distribution is. The top 1 percent of Americans hold 50 percent of all investments in stocks and bonds, for example – while 80 percent of Americans share a paltry 7 percent of the nation’s wealth. But most interesting are the gaps between where Americans think we are and where we really we are when it comes to wealth. A full 92 percent of Americans agree on what a healthy, ideal wealth distribution curve would look like — one that is far more equitable than what we think is the case. (“That is telling, admittedly,” says the narrator. “The fact that most Americans know that the system is already skewed unfairly.") But this perceived gap between ideal and reality is pocket change compared with the true state of inequality – an ugly curve in which the poorest and middle class are a barely-indistinguishable line while the top 1 percent is, quite literally, off the charts.
When the tipping point occurs, it will be suddenly realized by all, that there will be no more reason to build roads, or fix existing roads, or build university buildings, or put braces on your kids teeth, etc. ALL perceptions of life-in-the-future will change, and most all economic activity that is deemed farther out than say, next week, will cease. Ninety nine year contracts will be a relic of a by-gone era; pensions and annuities will cease; cash will become king; and when that fails hard money will reign. When the public becomes fully aware of all the facts and the relevant conclusions to be derived from those facts, the phrase ‘new paradigm’ will have true meaning. Most of us didn’t get the opportunity to learn any of this in high school, or to connect all the dots if we did study it, so it comes as a bit of a shock to most when they realize the implications of the principles and the facts. But the principles are founded on good biology, good geology and good economics. The facts are available if any choose to peruse them. “It will be in no one’s best interest to factually report the reality of the decline of fossil fuels once it begins in earnest.” Perry Arnett
The Instant the Top 1% recognize DANgER, they leave. Where did they go? Please tell me,because all enamel paint back then was lead-based,so the rich kids had just as much opportunity to eat it as the poor kids. Yet the rich kids never seemed to fail tests due to "brain damage from eating paint flakes." Think Morgan Stanley leasing jets out of Tokyo on Mar 12 2011..... That has WHAT to do with "inner-city chill-runs eatin de paints"?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
And they're eating paint cause they're hungry. What did their parents (mother) do with the AFDC money and the food stamps,buy lead paint with it to paint their goobermint apartment with? You live in a house with Paint Flaking off the walls, sp? No,but I have. We always solved the problem by sanding or wire brushing the loose paint and repainting it. I know that is a novel and radical approach compared to waiting for somebody from the government come and do it for you,but it worked for me. Think that should be allowed? HELL YES! If the parents don't care,why should the feral government,and how the HELL is it any of their business?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I know the solution! We should pass a feral law making everybody equally ambitious,intelligent,and hard-working,and put everybody in prison that doesn't obey the law!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
We're doing gang busters on your Second Part. ;}
I know too much about how the Feds subcontract HUD repairs....;} Let me just say that nobody's spending Food stamps on paint.
the problem is that it takes generations to get into these substandard apts. And generations of failed gov't policy. This is the Planet of the Demons from Dumbass after all. See Cyprus Avg Joe takes it in the neck while Russian oligarchs skate for details.....;}
Really? I'm shocked! SHOCKED,I TELL YA! BTW,you mention HUD contracts. What's keeping these people from spending a little of their welfare/food stamp money to paint their apartments? After all,they live there for free,and it was THEIR children eating the lead paint chips. Who is most responsible for their children,them or the government? Yeah,I know. It's a trick question because you think the government is responsible for everything because they're your daddy.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,it doesn't. You are just confused and must have meant to write "there are people living in these apartments who have been living in government housing for generations,and being the parasites they are they would never dream of fixing anything because they think it's the governments job to wipe their asses after a visit to the toilet. And generations of failed gov't policy. They ARE generations of failed government policy. See Cyprus Avg Joe takes it in the neck while Russian oligarchs skate for details.....;} What the HELL does Cyprus and Russia have to do with it? Your dreamed of One World Communist Government doesn't exist yet.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yes, it does. And this is the Planet of the Demons from Dumbass. That people are expecting Progress at all amazes me.
See Cyprus Avg Joe takes it in the neck while Russian oligarchs skate for details.....;} What the HELL does Cyprus and Russia have to do with it? Your dreamed of One World Communist Government doesn't exist yet. Easy. note the Wealthy skate. The Hard Working Serf gets it in the neck. The only part of history I respect is how the Uber Wealthy Never see their Security disappear. And One World Communist Government is EXACTLY what we DO have now. Or as close as we're gonna get. 1% get the Communism. 99% get the Free Market. Europe has now defaulted. Watch Russia, China, Japan dump their Euro F/X Funds. not even Bernanke can cover Trillion Euro Sovereign Funds.
Looking for winter weirdness 6 Jetstreammarch2013I wasn't expecting another instalment in this year's series of blog posts on Winter Weirdness, extreme weather events that could be linked to the decline in Arctic sea ice. It's not even winter anymore officially. But as spring has been revoked in large parts of Europe, and the atmospheric blocking that is causing it is being linked to Arctic sea ice as a potential cause, I figure it's a fitting end for the series. One of the first articles alluding to the link, appeared on the Guardian's website on Monday: Scientists link frozen spring to dramatic Arctic sea ice loss. Stefan Rahmstorf, professor of Physics of the Oceans at Potsdam University, went further, writing a blog post showing the similarities between the current event and modeled projections in recent research that investigated the influence of Arctic sea ice loss on atmospheric patterns. Lepus Universalis Eli Rabett was so kind as to translate Rahmstorf's blog post to English:
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Cantor, Boehner Coming Together
Office of VP Biden @VP 
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)
#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)
What will be your focus this year?
#5. To: All (#4)
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#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)
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This 'Fiscal Cliff Deal' will fall apart in weeks.
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#10. To: A K A Stone (#8)
How can a deal that is already signed fall apart?
#11. To: Fred Mertz (#7)
How will they do it?
#12. To: Fred Mertz (#9)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#1)
What will be your focus this year? What do you think is going to happen in 2013?
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#16. To: Logsplitter (#15)
#17. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#18. To: Logsplitter (#15)
That wooshing sound you hear is the comment about CORPORATIONS going right over their pointy little noggins.
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That wooshing sound you hear is the comment about CORPORATIONS going right over their pointy little noggins.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#21. To: calcon (#19)
Fortunately for them, their pointy noggins keep them from getting "stuck on stupid" like you lowbrow folks.
#22. To: mcgowanjm (#21)
#23. To: A K A Stone (#0)
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In a 2000 paper (PDF) he concluded that if you add a lag time of 23 years, lead emissions from automobiles explain 90 percent of the variation in violent crime in America.
#25. To: A K A Stone, All (#1)
What will be your focus this year? What do you think is going to happen in 2013?
#26. To: Fred Mertz (#24)
Fascinating. First time I've read of this; thanks.
#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)
#28. To: All (#27)
So you want to talk about child porn now?
#29. To: A K A Stone (#1)
What will be your focus this year? What do you think is going to happen in 2013?
#30. To: mcgowanjm (#26)
I was 'noting' it, but not catching it's significance until I read the MJ article, then the History of Lead and Leaded Gasoline and then the Chicago 500 murders while NYC dropped.
#31. To: calcon (#19)
Fortunately for them, their pointy noggins keep them from getting "stuck on stupid" like you lowbrow folks.
#32. To: mcgowanjm (#29)
[quote]Previously the Bureau's heat index was capped at 48°C (118.4°F), but now recorded temperatures of over 50°C (122°F) have pushed the limit of the scale to an unheard of 54°C, which is equivalent to 129°F.
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#35. To: A K A Stone, Mcgowinjm (#0)
Mcgowanjm Wire 2013
#36. To: mininggold (#32)
Have you seen on a topo map what would be left of Israel after a moderate sea level rise? No wonder they are going after the high ground.
#37. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
Really fascinating stuff and to me it appears to be scientifically sound research.
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#39. To: All (#37)
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America At The Brink
Editor-in-Chief,
Veterans Today
VT World View
Predictions For 2013
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#43. To: A K A Stone (#41)
Gordon Duff lol.
#44. To: mininggold, Fred Mertz, All (#31)
#45. To: All (#44)
#46. To: All (#45)
#47. To: All (#46)
#48. To: whyofcourse (#40)
#49. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#50. To: A K A Stone (#48)
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537910_535706623115449_1631182608_n.jpg
#51. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#52. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#53. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#54. To: All (#53)
#55. To: mcgowanjm (#54)
...has rapidly gone from bad to worse as some 34 hostages (out of the 41 originally reported) have been killed.
#56. To: Fred Mertz (#55)
I hope it wasn't some sort of rescue mission.
#57. To: mcgowanjm (#56)
Which would explain the lack of reporting by the USSAMSM....the situation is still fluid.
#58. To: Fred Mertz (#57)
Algeria hostages reportedly escape captors; some may have been slain
#59. To: Fred Mertz, All (#58)
#60. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#61. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#62. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#63. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#64. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#65. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#66. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#67. To: All (#26)
(Edited)
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#68. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#69. To: All (#49)
#70. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#71. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#72. To: All (#71)
#73. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#74. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#75. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#76. To: mcgowanjm (#74)
"Pemex Director Juan Jose Suarez said that there was "no evidence that it was a deliberate incident, or some kind of attack".
#77. To: Fred Mertz (#76)
"Pemex Director Juan Jose Suarez said that there was "no evidence that it was a deliberate incident, or some kind of attack".
#78. To: Fred Mertz, All (#77)
You talkin' to me or Juan.
#79. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#80. To: All (#77)
(Edited)
Pemex Director Juan Jose Suarez
#81. To: All (#80)
Pemex Director Juan Jose Suarez
#82. To: All (#81)
#83. To: All (#82)
#84. To: All (#83)
#85. To: All (#84)
#86. To: All (#85)
#87. To: All (#86)
Pedro Alatorre Damy
#88. To: Fred Mertz, All (#87)
(Edited)
#89. To: All (#88)
#90. To: All (#89)
#91. To: All (#90)
#92. To: All (#91)
alleged Sinaloa organization money-launderer Pedro Alfonso Alatorre Damy via a Gulfstream II jet (tail number N987SA) that crashed in Mexico in late 2007 with some four tons of cocaine onboard.
#93. To: All (#92)
#94. To: All (#93)
#95. To: All (#94)
#96. To: All (#95)
#97. To: All (#96)
#98. To: All (#97)
#99. To: All (#98)
#100. To: All (#99)
#101. To: All (#100)
#102. To: All (#101)
#103. To: All (#102)
#104. To: mcgowanjm (#103)
Tom Burghardt is a researcher and activist based in the San Francisco Bay Area.
#105. To: mcgowanjm (#88)
Jesus Fucking Christ, are you reading this?
#106. To: Fred Mertz (#105)
#107. To: A K A Stone, yukon (#104)
#108. To: mcgowanjm (#106)
The ZETAS/FARC are the good guys.
#109. To: A K A Stone (#108)
(Edited)
You do know why they call you Mcloon don't you?
#110. To: mcgowanjm (#106)
#111. To: A K A Stone (#108)
You do know why they call you Mcloon don't you?
#112. To: mcgowanjm (#109)
Peak Oil
#113. To: mcgowanjm (#109)
Climate Change
#114. To: A K A Stone (#112)
Peak Oil
#115. To: A K A Stone (#112)
(Edited)
Peak Oil
#116. To: yukon (#113)
#117. To: mcgowanjm (#116)
Arctic in Death Spiral.
#118. To: mcgowanjm (#116)
hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017.
#119. To: yukon (#117)
According to some envirofreaks. Why are you so insanely gullible, mcgoon?
#120. To: A K A Stone (#118)
(Edited)
http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32699&Disp=6
#121. To: mcgowanjm (#119)
Rail at them.
#122. To: mcgowanjm (#120)
We will check back next October McClown.
#123. To: yukon (#121)
I don't have to.
#124. To: mcgowanjm (#123)
POTUS#44 stated that Climate Change is a fact.
#125. To: A K A Stone (#122)
And I will rub your nose in it come October.
#126. To: yukon (#124)
#127. To: mcgowanjm (#125)
I've been wiping the floor with your arguements for how long now?
#128. To: A K A Stone (#127)
Since never.
#129. To: mcgowanjm (#126)
Arctic Ice in Death Spiral.
#130. To: All (#128)
#131. To: mcgowanjm (#130)
a gulf
#132. To: yukon (#121)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#133. To: hondo68 (#132)
#134. To: mcgowanjm (#130)
The war trenches are yawning
#135. To: A K A Stone, yukon (#129)
#136. To: yukon (#134)
#137. To: yukon (#131)
#138. To: A K A Stone, All (#137)
#139. To: mcgowanjm (#135)
Gay is good. I see no problem with it.....;}
#140. To: A K A Stone, Yukon, All (#139)
Gay is good. I see no problem with it.....;}
#141. To: All (#140)
#142. To: mcgowanjm (#135)
Gay is good.
#143. To: mcgowanjm (#136)
There is nothing wrong with being Gay
#144. To: mcgowanjm (#137)
Gays can want to heal the planet.
#145. To: mcgowanjm (#140)
don't talk to me
#146. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#147. To: yukon (#145)
don't talk to me
#148. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#149. To: mcgowanjm (#147)
Hell, don't talk to me.
#150. To: mcgowanjm (#147)
Gay is good. I see no problem with it.....;}
#151. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm (#149)
#152. To: yukon, mcgowanjm (#150)
You're an abnormal crackpot, mcgoon.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#153. To: hondo68 (#152)
You're a regular crackpot
#154. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#155. To: Fred Mertz (#149)
Talk to your newest bestest buddy....;}
#156. To: mcgowanjm (#155)
I don't know, but I love Gays.
#157. To: A K A Stone (#1)
#158. To: meguro (#156)
I don't know, but I love Gays.
#159. To: hondo68 (#152)
You're an abnormal crackpot, mcgoon.
#160. To: yukon (#151)
Ethyl, why are you such a spineless wimp? You're even worse than mcgoon.
#161. To: yukon (#150)
Gay is good. I see no problem with it.....;}
#162. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#163. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#164. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#165. To: All (#164)
#166. To: mcgowanjm (#165)
According to a January 1995 Manila police report, Murad said "he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters.
#167. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#168. To: Fred Mertz (#166)
(Edited)
According to a January 1995 Manila police report, Murad said "he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters.
#169. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#170. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#171. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#172. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#173. To: Fred Mertz, All (#172)
#174. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#0)
#175. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#176. To: A K A Stone (#0)
(Edited)
#177. To: All (#176)
#178. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#179. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#180. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#181. To: All (#180)
#182. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#183. To: mcgowanjm (#182)
#184. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#185. To: A K A Stone (#183)
The base of the democratic party is rapists, sex perverts, murderers, thieves and coveters.
#186. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#187. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Mininggold, All (#0)
#188. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete, war, mininggold, lucysmom (#187)
Our records show you have been banned from The People's Forum.
#189. To: Fred Mertz (#188)
#190. To: Fred Mertz (#188)
(Edited)
Petey lasted a day or so.
#191. To: A K A Stone (#189)
(Edited)
Now lets see if Fred Mertz is a hypocrite. You need to go over to the peoples scrotum and demand that MCgowanjm be reinstated. Or are you afraid of Robin? I think you are afraid of her.
#192. To: sneakypete, war (#190)
War asked them to delete his account and she did.
#193. To: sneakypete (#191)
I have a horrible memory for names,and a even worse memory for screen names.
#194. To: Fred Mertz (#192)
I'm going to rename sneakypete and mininggold - the Punch and Judy Show
#195. To: hondo68 (#2)
Chicom leaders
#196. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm (#24)
In a 2000 paper (PDF) he concluded that if you add a lag time of 23 years, lead emissions from automobiles explain 90 percent of the variation in violent crime in America.
#197. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
Really fascinating stuff and to me it appears to be scientifically sound research.
#198. To: redleghunter (#35)
A proud sponsor of Obama's little red book
#199. To: Fred Mertz (#188)
I lost my 93 year-old girlfriend today and we have one inch of snow on the ground.
#200. To: mcgowanjm (#187)
#201. To: Fred Mertz (#192)
#202. To: Fred Mertz (#193)
I've heard through the grapevine that Viagra works wonders.
#203. To: sneakypete (#202)
Really?
#204. To: Fred Mertz (#188)
I saw that Robin wanted to ban you on the new Pope thread - I'll guess she's Catholic - a few days ago.
#205. To: Fred Mertz (#203)
I will say this, oysters are supreme for staying power.
#206. To: sneakypete (#190)
didn't last all day.
#207. To: mininggold (#204)
Those are probably the terms Nolu Chan is demanding in order to grace it again with his presence. He's quite special you know.
#208. To: A K A Stone (#207)
So you're basically saying Robin will ban people in order to get others there. To bad you don't have the balls to call her on it to her face. bock bcok
#209. To: mininggold (#206)
#210. To: war (#200)
"Your "contributions" here are no longer wanted. You have other places to post your garbage. "
#211. To: sneakypete (#196)
non-wite people living in America.
#212. To: Fred Mertz (#188)
I lost my 93 year-old girlfriend today and we have one inch of snow on the ground.
#213. To: mcgowanjm, Fred Mertz (#212)
#214. To: A K A Stone (#213)
Did your good friend Fred Mertz speak up for you at the peoples scrotum? Or is he a faux friend?
#215. To: mcgowanjm (#214)
You want a friend? Get a dog. I got 3.....;}
#216. To: A K A Stone (#213)
Did your good friend Fred Mertz speak up for you at the peoples scrotum?
#217. To: mcgowanjm (#214)
#218. To: mcgowanjm (#214)
#219. To: A K A Stone (#218)
#220. To: Fred Mertz (#219)
#221. To: mcgowanjm (#211)
Where lead based paint and substandard housing are right next to railroads/interstates....
#222. To: sneakypete (#221)
You mean people who weren't poor didn't have houses painted with lead-based paint?
#223. To: sneakypete (#221)
Or could it be their children had better sense than to be eating paint?
#224. To: All (#223)
#225. To: All (#224)
#226. To: mcgowanjm (#222)
The Point:
#227. To: mcgowanjm (#223)
Or could it be their children had better sense than to be eating paint?
#228. To: mcgowanjm (#224)
The top 1 percent of Americans hold 50 percent of all investments in stocks and bonds, for example – while 80 percent of Americans share a paltry 7 percent of the nation’s wealth.
#229. To: sneakypete (#228)
and put everybody in prison that doesn't obey the law!
#230. To: sneakypete (#227)
paint with it to paint their goobermint apartment with?
#231. To: sneakypete (#227)
No,but I have. We always solved the problem by sanding or wire brushing the loose paint and repainting it. I know that is a novel and radical approach compared to waiting for somebody from the government come and do it for you,but it worked for me.
#232. To: mcgowanjm (#230)
Let me just say that nobody's spending Food stamps on paint.
#233. To: mcgowanjm (#231)
the problem is that it takes generations to get into these substandard apts.
#234. To: sneakypete (#233)
#235. To: sneakypete (#233)
They ARE generations of failed government policy.
#236. To: All (#231)
This is the Planet of the Demons from Dumbass after all.
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