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Title: Republicans Join Democrats to Destroy Second Amendment
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/republicans ... s-to-destroy-second-amendment/
Published: Dec 26, 2012
Author: Kurt Nimmo
Post Date: 2012-12-26 13:06:02 by Hondo68
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In addition to surrendering to the Democrat instinct to tax Americans into oblivion, Republicans in Congress are prepared to go along with knee-jerk legislation rolling back the Second Amendment in the coming year. “Put guns on the table. Also, put video games on the table. Put mental health on the table,” Rep. Jack Kingston of Georgia said last week as the Republican leadership signaled it is ready to chip away at the right to own firearms. Kingston said Republicans are likely to move on more anti-gun legislation after a “grief stage” in response to the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting. “In the coming days and weeks, we will engage in a meaningful conversation and thoughtful debate about how to change laws and culture that allow violence to grow,” said formerly pro-Second Amendment Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. “And every idea should be on the table as we discuss how best to do just that.” Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Chuck Grassley of Iowa are ready to trade off the Second Amendment in order to make a political deal with Democrats. “You’ve got to take all these things into consideration,” Grassley said. Grassley also believes the federal government should legislate on societal issues. He said Congress needs to discuss a culture that “tends to be less civil now than it has been for a long period of time.” Arguing that Republicans must abandon libertarian principles in order “to remain relevant in a country whose views are changing,” the Associated Press cites a Washington Post/ABC News poll published last week in the wake of the Connecticut shooting that shows 54 percent of Americans surveyed want restrictions placed on the Second Amendment. For statist Republicans, relevance is all the rage. Following the shooting in Connecticut, former Republican congressman from Florida, Joe Scarborough, easily betrayed the Constitution. “I knew that day that the ideologies of my past career were no longer relevant to the future that I want, that I demand, for my children,” he said. “The party is at a point where it wants to have those discussions in public, where people feel comfortable differing from what is perceived as the party orthodoxy,” said Republican consultant Dan Hazelwood, revealing the sad fact that Republican fealty to the Second Amendment and thus the Constitution at large is waning. Retiring Republican Ron Paul responded to this sudden political sea change on the part of his colleagues. “Predictably, the political left responded to the tragedy with emotional calls for increased gun control. This is understandable, but misguided,” Paul said after the massacre. “The impulse to have government ‘do something’ to protect us in the wake of national tragedies is reflexive and often well intentioned. Many Americans believe that if we simply pass the right laws, future horrors like the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting can be prevented. But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws. The political right, unfortunately, has fallen into the same trap in its calls for quick legislative solutions to gun violence. If only we put armed police or armed teachers in schools, we’re told, would-be school shooters would be dissuaded or stopped. While I certainly agree that more guns equals less crime and that private gun ownership prevents many shootings. I don’t agree that conservatives and libertarians should view government legislation, especially at the federal level, as the solution to violence.” Ron Paul criticized reaction to the shooting by the NRA. Following the shooting, NRA boss Wayne LaPierre said the state should respond by placing more armed cops and guards in public education schools. Paul rightly saw this as an excuse to expand an already bloated police state: Furthermore, do we really want to live in a world of police checkpoints, surveillance cameras, metal detectors, X-ray scanners, and warrantless physical searches? We see this culture in our airports: witness the shabby spectacle of once proud, happy Americans shuffling through long lines while uniformed TSA agents bark orders. This is the world of government provided “security,” a world far too many Americans now seem to accept or even endorse. School shootings, no matter how horrific, do not justify creating an Orwellian surveillance state in America. Republicans in Congress will vote with Democrats to further erode the Second Amendment. The establishment is now exploiting the Sandy Hook shooting to accomplish its long-term objective of disarming the American people. No state can strip its citizens of their natural rights if they are armed and if a large number of them understand the principles behind the Constitution and the real reason for the Second Amendment.
Poster Comment: Add in the rest of the liberal congress-critters who endorsed John "Trigger Lock" McCain, and Willard "Semiauto Ban" Romney, and some form of so called gun control seems likely to get passed.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
You turd party losers are a BIG reason Harry Reid is still in office and Bronco Bama is getting a second term so..stfu and deal with it or move overseas.
Obama couldn't have gotten reelected without a real LOSER as an opponent. Your vote for loser Mitt was a vote for Obungler. Are you really dumb enough to think that a globalist anti-American liberal like Mitt could get elected? Move to China or somewhere, please.
You are correct. Romney wasn't perfect but it was an entirely different path and future.
"In the coming days and weeks, we will be acceping bids to bribe us to change laws and abandon the Constitution. I want to retire,and need a little retirement bonus.” said formerly pro-Second Amendment Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. There,I fixed it for him.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It WILL get passed,the gun grabbers and Dim politicians will be as giddy as schoolgirls over it,the press will be orgasmic,and the majority of us will ignore it until the come to OUR houses to arrest us after we have been turned in by a greedy relative who wanted the rat-fink reward money. Then we will be arrested and charge with the felony offense of having a newly banned rifle or magazine,and THEN it will become real to us. 95 percent of the gun owners will continue to not give a damn as long as it is somebody else being arrested.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,shithead it is you dumbass loser Party People who continue to blindly support any traitor or just flat-out dumbass for sale that the Party Fathers you worship push out in front of the pack. Just like you have done over and over since Reagan left office,and just like what has happened since Reagan left office,you will at first be shocked one more loser globalist got the nomination,and then throw all your support behind him because "YOUR loser sucks more than MY loser!" Then,IF Massachusetts Mitt had gotten elected and passed more gun laws than Obummer is proposing or could even get passed because the Party People in Congress would have backed a president with a R behind his name in a show of Party Unity,you would be making excuses for him. Do NOT blame us for YOUR blindness and stupidity!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Romney would love to have most of Israel move here. Maybe Ohio would be a good place for their settlement, if there is enough high ground. TBird's an advanced scout, looking for suitable territory.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Just like you have done over and over since Reagan left office,and just like what has happened since Reagan left office,you will at first be shocked one more loser globalist got the nomination,and then throw all your support behind him because "YOUR loser sucks more than MY loser!" Then,IF Massachusetts Mitt had gotten elected and passed more gun laws than Obummer is proposing or could even get passed because the Party People in Congress would have backed a president with a R behind his name in a show of Party Unity,you would be making excuses for him. Do NOT blame us for YOUR blindness and stupidity! Are you one of those who believes in Reagan mythology? You must REALLY want to have your taxes raised.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
It's not mythology,and unlike YOU,*I* am sane. You must REALLY want to have your taxes raised. Calling you stupid is insulting stupid.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It's the Republican's fault for running a shitty candidate who had no intention of winning. There was a better candidate, but the Gay Old Party stole several primaries for the designated loser.
AMEN,AMEN,and AMEN! They can run a globalist candidate by mistake ONCE,but by the 3rd time it's a part of a deliberate plan to destroy America.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Define "better" and who was it?
Nope.
This is precicely why we need an ORGANIZED Jury Nullification Movement. The majority of the population are too BRAINWASHED by the public schools and the vidiot box to trust with our basic GOD GIVEN RIGHTS any more. Its time to make the Cross and Dimetrodon a symbol that will make "Progressives" and their public school and television BRAINWASHED minions pee their pants and HOWELL through a total jury nullification attack on ALL "PROGRESSIVE" LAWS!!!
Ezekiel 13:20 There's a large segment of the population that didn't rush out to vote for gun grabber Mitt, but are rushing to buy guns and ammo. These are the non-sheeple. They're clinging to their guns and Bibles, not the corrupt D&R crime syndicate. Heathen dolts continue to worship the false gods of Willie-Mitt and Crybaby Boehner. No wonder they're known as MitTards!
Cry me a river you turd party loser. It wasn't like you weren't WARNED what would happen in a second Obama term. You made your bed...now go lie in it and stfu.
Red Ink Ronnie is his demigod.
Eat shit and die,mindless robot! You drone-like Party People would have been right at home in the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. It wasn't like you weren't WARNED what would happen in a second Obama term. No,it's YOU retards that didn't listen to the warnings. We got exactly what I predicted we would get,another Bush term. This Bush just happens to be slighter darker than the Bush traitors that preceded him. You made your bed...now go lie in it and stfu. No,it was you shithead Party People that made this bed when you decided to back globalist traitors like Boy Jorge Bush,John McLunatic and Massachusetts Mitt. Why would any Dim vote for them when they had a formal Dim to vote for,and why would any conservative vote for them when their Dim opponents looked like right-wingers by comparison? Hey! Don't worry about it though,comrade! Just keep your mouth shut next time when the alleged Republicans run a candidate to the left of Obummer,and keep those contributions pouring in so "OUR evil candidate wins instead of THEIR evil candidate!" You will be permitted to mumble a humble "Yowsah,massa,yowsa! to your masters,though.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
And you have Nobel Peace Prize winners like Jim-Mah Cawtur and Barry Soetoro,not to mention "the first black president and defender of whymen's rights,Bubba Bill Clinton". You must be sooo proud!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You must be sooo proud! Carter deserves his for brokering a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. Obama didn't deserve his, and I never made the claim that he did. Are you really dumber than a fence post, or are you just being disingenuous? How many times have a voiced my opposition to Obama's "droning" before?
Carter deserves nothing less than a horsewhipping. He is nothing more than a anti-American asshole. Obama didn't deserve his, and I never made the claim that he did. So what? Does that mean he didn't get it? Are you really dumber than a fence post, or are you just being disingenuous? How many times have a voiced my opposition to Obama's "droning" before? Who did you vote for the last two presidential elections?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You're too stupid to realize that you're a loser too. Only us turd party losers voted for conservatives, while you voted for a fucking socialist. You idiot fuck, shut your liberal fucking man pleaser.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
LOL! You think Massachusetts socialist Mitt Romney wouldn't be willing to sign gun control legislation right now? Surely you aren't that stupid.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
I stopped in to my local firearms establishment last weekend to find the shelves bare of assault style weapons. When I asked why, they said they can't stock them fast enough to keep them on the shelves. One guy came in and bought 25 at once!
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
You made your bed...now go lie in it and stfu. It wasn't like you weren't WARNED what would happen if the R party ran a fucking liberal AGAIN! But, they conned you in 2008 too, so they already knew that you were a dumbass. Who will you throw your 'conservative' support to in 2016... Lieberman??? LMAO!
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
YOU made this bed, you fucking retard. You and every other so called conservative who trotted out and supported a Massachusetts socialist and actually thought that conservatives would vote for him! Wow, that was really a brainfart, wasn't it Einstein? You made this bed retard, now you can't stop pissing in it.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Lol..rabid old coots like you should be more concerned about new MENTAL HEALTH laws stemming from OBAMACARE rather than new gun laws. Get your priorities in order retard, or you'll end up in a group home chained to the bedpost wearing a diaper.
Waah...stop cying like a little girl. Just imagine its a 30 round magazine Obama is shoving up your "conservative" anus Oh wait..it is!
Just imagine its a 30 round magazine Obama is shoving up your "conservative" anus Oh wait..it is! WTF does any of that even mean and how is it relevant to anything that I posted to you? FOCUS Einstooge! Try to talk about things like FACTS, instead of just ranting on like Cindy Sheehan. FACT: I supported conservatives and voted for a conservative. FACT: You supported anyone that the R party told you to, and voted for a Massachusetts socialist. FACT: YOU are now trying to blame those that voted for conservatives for the fact that we have a socialist in the WH. Start there, if you're not too fucking stupid to comprehend what you read.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
One thing that never ceases to amaze me, is the sheer number of you fucking idiots on the internet who want to engage others on a political discussion forum, who first of all, call yourselves conservatives when its obvious to even the dumbest SOB on here that you are NOT conservatives. But secondly that you idiots would even attempt to engage in discussion or debate when you're so F'ing bad at it that it's laughable.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Lol..snot nosed whiners like you who vote turd party then complain about getting ass-raped by liberal/socialists are the "dumb" ones. Now kindly FUCK OFF and enjoy the Mac10 strap-on Diane Feinstein has prepared for you.
Judging from your repeated references to male anal rape, one might think you are LP's Grand Island.
And if that ever happens,I know it will be because you voted for whatever Globalist that it was that demolished the Constitution because he had a R behind his name.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I was thinking the same thing. He has no set a pattern. I do believe it is Fire Island,back again with a new screen name. Either him/her or it's sweetie,Yu-Tard.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
In what way? Please be specific. So what? Does that mean he didn't get it? What do you want from me? I'm not the one who decides who wins the frigging award. Who did you vote for the last two presidential elections? You asked me this already. Why can't you remember? Obama in 2008, Jill Stein last month.
In what way? Please be specific. In every way possible,starting with picking Cyrus Vance as Sec of State. No,I am not going to spend a bunch of time looking up the obvious and then giving you links. Do it yourself. Obama in 2008, Jill Stein last month. Supported by Noam Chomsky and Chris Hedges? Castro and Pol Pot weren't available? Shit,Obummer is a right-winger compared to those loons.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The ultimate copout. Boteye would be proud of you. Shit,Obummer is a right-winger compared to those loons. Yup. Obama is hardly a leftist. Much more a centrist actually, even a bit to the right. Just not falling off the right end of the spectrum like today's average Republican.
Yeah,because it is such a big deep,dark secret that Jim-Mah was a bumbling fool and anti-American globalist asshole,right? Yup. Obama is hardly a leftist. Much more a centrist actually, even a bit to the right. Close,but no cigar. If it wasn't for your indoctrination that has you blindly believing fascism is a right-wing political movement,you would be there. Fascism is a ultra-LEFT political movement. It's the adult form of communism.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
To you rightwinguts he was. Close,but no cigar. If it wasn't for your indoctrination that has you blindly believing fascism is a right- wing political movement,you would be there. What about your indoctrination? Fascism is a ultra-LEFT political movement. It's the adult form of communism. So what to you is ultra-RIGHT?
WHAT indoctrination? The one that makes me a free-thinker? Don't worry. There seems to be no danger of you becoming infected with that "disease",comrade.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Don't worry. There seems to be no danger of you becoming infected with that "disease",comrade. Yeah, because anyone who doesn't think exactly like you is "indoctrinated," eh old geezer?
Since I believe doctrine MUST be challenged and that the best system is the one with the maximum individual freedoms and the least amount of government power,the only sensible answer to your thoughtless challenge is, "Of course,comrade."
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
What about me exactly makes you think I believe in so much government power?
Your admission that you are a leftist. It is impossible to be a leftist without supporting a police state that will give you all the freedom they think you need.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Lol..graphic metaphors are needed to make an impression on you dimwitted turd party losers. Repetition was given in response to the moron who couldn't understand the more oblique comments. -btw nobody ever said any of you whiney cunts were men.
When have I ever said I supported a police state? What specific measures do I support that leads you to believe this? By all means, list them.
Yup,it's either Fire Island or Yu-Tard.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are a leftist. There is no such thing as a leftist nation that isn't a police state. You,BY DEFINITION believe the state should have more power than the individual.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He ducks, he dodges, he bobs, he weaves, he squirms, he slivers away... He blows off the question! By whose definition? You rightists'? I have no doubt you've been indoctrinated to believe that.
Some believe Thunderbird is Boofer.
Yes,you do. Or is it possible your education is so flawed you actually believe leftism is about individual freedoms? What I stated is a ABSOLUTE FACT. There is not a leftist nation on the planet that has a Bill of Rights. Therefor,since you want America to be a leftist nation,YOU want to see the Bill of Rights nullified and the government to be the master of the people instead of the people being the master of the government. You can't have it both ways. You are either for individual freedoms or an oppressive government. Make up your mind. By whose definition? You rightists'? Yup. Clearly the victim of a PC education or a inferior mind. Which is it?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't know who Boofer is,but the language sure sounds like one of the Non-dynamic Duo.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Where's that list of things I said that supports my belief in a police state? In fact, can you name just ONE thing? C'mon, out with it! Incidentally, do you consider yourself a rightist?
Boteye
I've already told you at least 3 times right here on this thread. You are a leftist. I don't know how to dumb it down any further to help you understand it. "Incidentally, do you consider yourself a rightist?" Of course. Despite the propaganda you have been programed to believe,a right-winger is someone who has conservative values,and that in turn means you MUST have strong Libertarian beliefs because the people who formed our country and who wrote and voted on our Constitution with a Bill of Rights were Libertarians.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Boteye I don't remember Boteye writing that kind of nonsense.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Now why do you think the Left is constantly re-writing history to make themselves look like the good guys when the truth is just the opposite!! Heck just the last century alone should tell them something about what lies ahead of them... Their masters killed about 200 million people all in the name of Leftardism, many of them were supporters who had outlived their usefulness...
“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”
Not even close Pete. They were liberty lovers yes. But libertarians no way. They weren't for open borders like libertarians. They were a moral people. Libertarians can be summed up with the same doctrine as satanists. Do what thou wilt.
Read the thread you're posting in, dumbass. YOU are the one crying like a little girl because some wouldn't vote for your Massachusetts socialist. Now kindly FUCK OFF LOL! No, I think I'll stay, as long as it pleases me, and make you cry some more. If you're too big a pussy to handle it, use the filter.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
That would certainly explain some things.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Good God man! You can't be serious?!? You and I have always been on different sides but at least your comments have made some sort of sense... until this one.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
I see that thrown around a lot. Mitt may not have been perfect. But calling him a socialist isn't honest.
Isn't honest? Did he or did he not institute socialist healthcare, THE model for Obamacare, in Massachusetts? Is he for or against a welfare and warfare state? Is he for or against progressive taxation? Is he for or against government controlled schools for your children? Mitt Romney is a socialist.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Yeah,they were. You just don't want to admit it because you want a theocracy, They weren't for open borders like libertarians. Libertarians want open borders? Sure of that,are you? They were a moral people. Libertarians can be summed up with the same doctrine as satanists. Do what thou wilt. Thank you for proving my point. You want to destroy the Bill of Rights and establish a theocratic police state. WHO are the leftists now?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yeah,and the Titanic may have sprung a leak.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You can't be serious?!? I sure am, Weeps. Happy New Year!
And yet you can't cite just one instance of where I explicitly stated I support anything remotely resembling a police state. LOL! I understand alright. Game, set, match. I rest my case.
Game, set, match. I rest my case. Reading between the lines together a large dose of fantasy is sneaky's specialty, in order to reach his comfort level which is: anyone not agreeing with him is a commie.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Thunderbird prefers to support serial adulterers running for president. As Cain was his "man".
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
From their platform moron. They like killing babies too. http://www.lp.org/platform 1.4 Abortion Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration. 3.4 Free Trade and Migration We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.
Peter eater thinks this is a quote from the founding fathers.
Happy New Year! Happy New Year to you too, faggot. Celebrating the Chinese New Year too?
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Yup, all the crusty old geezer has is his vacuous rhetoric.
Celebrating the Chinese New Year too? I'm not a cigarette, weeps. Sure, I'll celebrate it, how about you?
The other day you said something to the affect that you were happy Obama was running rings around the Republicans. Everything the usurper does is to advance himself and his police state. Everything.
Not quite, but sure I hope Obama prevails. Now what's this got to do with a police state?
Everything you post is retarded... Everything.
• God was mercifully willing to spare the cities for the sake of a few righteous people, but none lived there. The Bible tells us all the inhabitants were depraved. • One of the reasons God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah was because he did not want the Jews to be influenced by this evil. As the Creator of all things, God has the divine right to destroy evil as he sees fit. • Lot and his family were spared, but his future sons-in-laws were destroyed because they thought Lot was joking about God's wrath. Millions of people today think God and sin are things to joke about. God does exist, and he does punish unrepentant sinners. • The Bible clearly states that the fire and sulfur, or brimstone, rained down "from the Lord out of the heavens" (Genesis 19:24, NIV), not upward from a volcano. Lot's wife, whose name is not given, became a pillar of salt. Some scholars believe she was covered with molten material. Question for Reflection: Evil is all around us in today's society, from lying and stealing to pornography, drugs, illicit sex, and violence. God calls us to be holy people set apart, not influenced by our wicked culture. Sin always has consequences. Do you take sin and God's wrath seriously?
You are just too thick to understand what is obvious to people that aren't drones. I bet you don't "think" Cuba,Laos,VN,The USSR,Eastern Europe,and China were police states either,do you? The good news is you have a solid basis for a fraud suit against every school you ever attended.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Look at who has came to cover your back,meg! THERE's a real brain-trust if I have ever seen one!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
From their platform moron. Libertarians are free-thinkers. This means they aren't slaves to party doctrine. You are confusing libertarians with the Dims and the New World Order Party. They like killing babies too. And you want to use the force of government to stop them in any and all cases because you think life begins at erection,right? What will the penalty be for missing the evening prayers once you take over?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
And your fascist alleged Republican Party supports strict government control of the market through the Federal Reserve and trade legislation designed to protect large campaign donors and people who control large voting blocks,like unions. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries.a All of which you are in favor of,comrade. You are willing to graciously allow the citizens to have all the rights you think they need,though. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. Which proves that even mostly rational people can have insane moments. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property. That's a pretty broad statement,which can be used to cut off all immigration,depending on who gets to decide what and who is a threat.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Since you are incapable of thinking,how would you know what or how anybody else thinks? Hell,you still believe in miracles.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You just said libertarians don't believe in open borders. I just showed you the contrary. Quit whining about it and admit that you are wrong.
Your link was to the (BIG L) Libertarian party, a subset of (small l) libertarians. Even in the Libertarian Party there are factions which favor strict borders and deporting invaders. Libertarians don't follow the herd, and that's even more true for the small l, libertarians. You voted for reconquista Mitt, so you should be happy with Obama since he has the same policies.
THERE's a real brain-trust if I have ever seen one! Still no examples of where I support a police state?
Blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada..,
Losing bet, silly old geezer.
No,I wrote that not all Libertarians believe in open borders. YOU need to quit whining and admit that YOU are wrong.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You used no such qualifier. Here is my quote followed by yours. "They weren't for open borders like libertarians." "Libertarians want open borders? Sure of that,are you? "
What you said is true. I won't argue with you about it.
You voted for Obummer and you voted for the Green Party communist candidate. You are an admitted leftist. ALL leftists want a police state.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Losing bet, silly old geezer. Really? Were/are they leftist governments? Were they police states? Are YOU a leftist?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You used no such qualifier. Here is my quote followed by yours. "They weren't for open borders like libertarians." "Libertarians want open borders? Sure of that,are you? " It isn't obvious to you that was a question to you about all Libertarians being for open borders? Seriously?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are an admitted leftist. ALL leftists want a police state. Still can't cite a single instance of anything "police state" I support. Game, set, match. Happy New Year, old timer.
Are YOU a leftist? Does Sweden have a "leftist" government? Not even sure how you define it. Seems it's your "catchall" phrase. Leftist this, leftist that.... yada, yada, yada... zzzzz. Is supporting gay marriage, the legalization of drugs, the ending of wars, and a woman's right to choose leftist? Is wanting the Bible thumpers out of my life leftist? Do you consider the neocons, Bushbots, and Bible Thumpers leftist? Are boteye, gomer, packbot, yutard, mudbot, and fire island leftists?
The Green Party,asshole. Ralph Nader,asshole Barry Soetoro 1st term,asshole Gun Control,asshole The Civil Wrongs Act of 1964,asshole Affirmative Action,asshole Seems like the ONLY time you support individual freedoms are when it comes to individual freedoms for homosexuals,asshole Quotas,asshole No bid minority contracts,asshole And I'd done playing your little game. You admit being a leftist,and you admit to supporting all the above. Even BorisY isn't brain-damaged so badly he can't see the link between leftism and police states,so that means you are ashamed of being a leftist or you wouldn't deny it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
They did have,but that is changing. BTW,is there some reason you are refusing to comment on the governments I mentioned,comrade? Not even sure how you define it. Another lie.I have defined it several times right here on this thread. Leftism calls for the dominance of the government over the people and the curtailing of individual freedoms. A government where the only real "right" the individuals have are to go along with government dictates or go to prison. You know who these people and governments are because you admire them. Do you consider the neocons, Bushbots, and Bible Thumpers leftist? Absolutely! I've even told them this right here on LF. ON THREADS I KNOW YOU READ. Are boteye, gomer, packbot, yutard, mudbot, and fire island leftists? Yes,but most are too stupid to know it. They just blindly follow their party,with practically no thought at all given to where the party is leading them. IF they ever thought about it with a open mind they would realize they have been tricked into putting their loyalty towards their party instead of towards their country,but they are too indoctrinated to even realize the Dims and the Republicans are actually two branches of the same party,and both are working to destroy America as a free country and sovereign nation. Just like your boys and girls in the Dim and Green Parties.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Now you know that's never gonna happen because he doesn't feel like he's been misled... The self appointed smart are just like that, it's in their nature!!
“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”
It's not hard to look smart when you constantly surround yourself with morons.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It's not hard to look smart when you constantly surround yourself with morons. That reminds me of the old saying "It's better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"...
“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”
But... I didn't call you a cigarette, I called you a pole climber. What's wrong? I thought those little pet names were all the rage with you and the rest of the hair pullers? I thought you liked that?
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Not really, weeps, but if you get off calling me them, knock yourself out.
Wow. You are seriously dense. Let me spell this out for you. That little pet name that you call me???... I don't like it. It's childish and quite frankly, petty and stupid. It reminds me of some idiot on another forum that calls himself yukon. I can't have a serious conversation with people who act like that idiot. I'll make you a deal. You stop and I'll stop.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
I'll make you a deal. You stop and I'll stop. But it's so much easier for me to type, and I'm lazy. :-) But sure, ok, I'll stop. BTW, you heard that the aforementioned poster was booted from el Pee?
I call for the legalization of drugs, gay marriage, a women's right to choose. Plus I want less militarism by the US, starting with ending all the senseless wars and closing Gitmo. Yup, I'm for the curtailing of freedoms, alright. Sure thing, Arch.
Well good, as you lost long ago.
Yeah, because I don't like the idea of psychos running around with guns. The Civil Wrongs Act of 1964,asshole What's the matter? You don't like a black man sitting next to you on the short bus? Yeah, segregation was such a grand idea. Hey, let's just bring back slavery and public lynchings of blacks! Affirmative Action,asshole I already mentioned to do that while it was well-intentioned, Affirmative Action is probably a misguided policy. You conveniently forgot that too, eh? Quotas,asshole No bid minority contracts,asshole I don't recall even discussing either of these issues with you, numbnuts.
Yu-Tard is no longer on LP. Goldi gave him the permanent boot this time.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Where's the fun in that? You guys are nothing but a coupla quitters!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
With the exception of your ignorance kneejerk response to Gitmo,if you believe all that WHY do you vote left? Except for closing Gitmo those are all libertarian positions,and one thing no sane person has ever done that wasn't knowingly lying or enormously ignorant was call the left "liberal" in ANY sense of the word.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Another lie. You seem to have no problem with psychos running around with guns. You just object to sane citizens running around with them. Maybe I'm wrong,though. When was the last time you called for the police and bodyguards to be disarmed? The Civil Wrongs Act of 1964,asshole What's the matter? You don't like a black man sitting next to you on the short bus? Proof you really ARE more stupid than I thought you were. Never had a actual thought in your entire life,have you? Yeah, segregation was such a grand idea. A MUCH better idea that FORCED integration at gunpoint. A FREE people are allowed to make up their own minds about who the socialize with,who they hire and fire,and who they can sell or rent their property to. Then again,you think people only need all the freedom that government gives them. I already mentioned to do that while it was well-intentioned, Affirmative Action is probably a misguided policy. You conveniently forgot that too, eh? No,I couldn't forget it because I have never seen you make the claim. Even then the qualifier "probably" negates the rest of what you wrote. Hey, let's just bring back slavery and public lynchings of blacks! I'm sure that would make you happy. BTW,while we are on this subject,how about give us all a listing of how many whites and how many blacks were lynched ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,NOT JUST THE SOUTH between 1865 and 1965,and WHY they were lynched? Let's have some statistics,Buckwheat! Quotas,asshole No bid minority contracts,asshole (me) I don't recall even discussing either of these issues with you, numbnuts. Ok,so discuss them now.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Wow. What did he do, post gay porn again?
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
If I hadn't gone and looked for myself, I'd have thought that you both were lying. Good, finally someone who deserved to get the boot, got it. I bet he's still crying. Oh shit, I hope he doesn't come here.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
He finally succeeded in pissing off Goldi with his constant name calling and attacking other posters. She gave him multiple timeouts and warnings, but he'd just come back and continue. She finally got fed up and dumped his sorry ass.
What's kneejerk about it? Anyone can see what an egregious violation of human rights it is. Any libertarian would be diametrically opposed to it. Why do I vote left? You mean Green Party? Are you claiming the Green Party wants to keep Gitmo open? The Green Party espouses most of the viewpoints I do. More than any other candidate did in this past election.
Now look who's lying. When did I ever say that? Show me the post. Go ahead, make my day! Maybe I'm wrong,though. When was the last time you called for the police and bodyguards to be disarmed? You are wrong, never. And if I supported a police state, why would I want the police disarmed? Dumbass. A MUCH better idea that FORCED integration at gunpoint. A FREE people are allowed to make up their own minds about who the socialize with,who they hire and fire,and who they can sell or rent their property to. What about forced segregation at gunpoint, which was effectively going on in the south before the Civil Rights Act? What part of Jim Crow confuses you? Hey, let's just bring back slavery and public lynchings of blacks! I'm sure that would make you happy. No, I think it would make YOU happy. I'm not even for capital punishment. BTW,while we are on this subject,how about give us all a listing of how many whites and how many blacks were lynched ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,NOT JUST THE SOUTH between 1865 and 1965,and WHY they were lynched? Let's have some statistics,Buckwheat! Go look them up yourself, spanky. I don't recall even discussing either of these issues with you, numbnuts. Ok,so discuss them now. No thanks, not interested. Waste of time.
I don't know. I usually ignored him unless he pinged me.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,anyone who doesn't live on Big Rock Candy Mountain understand that people who declare themselves to be your enemy and who are intent on destroying you only have a right to die. Any libertarian would be diametrically opposed to it. Only the ones who are fools with no life experiences. Why do I vote left? You mean Green Party? Are you claiming the Green Party wants to keep Gitmo open? No,I mean the Green Party is composed of airhead leftists,and leftists are in love with police states. In a police state you have all the freedoms the state thinks you need. The Green Party espouses most of the viewpoints I do. Proof you are a leftist. More than any other candidate did in this past election. Is there anyone other than globalist international bankers that can't make that same claim? NONE of the candidates were worth the price of the rope it would cost to hang them.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
But...,but...,but,..., I thought you were a caped crusader when it comes to minorities?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
More like "rebel without a clue." :-P
Tell us, Gramps, what does the great libertarian Ron Paul have to say about Gitmo? Is he for or against keeping prisoners looked up there indefinitely without due process under the law? Let's hear it! Tell you what, since you're too stupid to figure it out yourself. http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/House/Texas/Ron_Paul/Views/Guantanamo_Bay/ Only the ones who are fools with no life experiences. Like Ron Paul? No,I mean the Green Party is composed of airhead leftists,and leftists are in love with police states. In a police state you have all the freedoms the state thinks you need. The Green Party espouses most of the viewpoints I do. Proof you are a leftist. Leftist this, leftist that, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. So I'm a leftist. Not that you have slightest idea what that entails, but OK. A police state, that's just downright funny. You are ignorant, uneducated, and about as dumb as a fencepost, Arch. In fact, I apologize to fenceposts the world over for insulting their intelligence by comparing it to yours, you peabrain.
Wrong again, Arch. I just don't believe in putting them down like you.
Don't know,don't care. Tell you what, since you're too stupid to figure it out yourself. You really do think that people who aren't Dims or Semi-Dims are as stupid as you are,don't you? You just can't comprehend that we have minds of our own and are independent thinkers rather than Party People like you. Sad,really. Leftist this, leftist that, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. So I'm a leftist. It's good to see you admit it after being dragged kicking and screaming out into the daylight after the rock was overturned. Not that I really blame you.I would be ashamed to admit something like that,too. Not that you have slightest idea what that entails, but OK. A police state, that's just downright funny. You are ignorant, uneducated, and about as dumb as a fencepost, Arch. THAT one earned you your own irony AND humor pings. Yu-Tard is going to be soooo jealous! Even HE only earned one at a time.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ain't you just soooo "special"? Special Education,that is.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Since Ron Paul aways, steadfastly adhered to the Constitution, the question answers itself. The 4th and 15th Amendments both contain due-process clauses. There are a variety of aspects that these two clauses entail; I suggest you research this further, before continuing along this bone-headed line of thought. It makes you look grossly ignorant (which, being a leftist, you are, but that's another story). Like Ron Paul? He's got more real experience in life, than you'll ever have, bone- head. He's smarter, wiser and more educated than you'll ever be, as well. Again, more bone-headed comments from you simply make you look silly. Thanks for confirming that you are, indeed, an idiot. You know who the first "green party" was? The German National Socialist Party... aka the Nazis, a hard-left organization that put 21 million people in the ground before they were stopped. You're truly insane.
Always, without fail, eh? OK, so then I guess sneakypete advocates violating the Constitution by supporting the gulag in Cuba, which BOTH I and Ron Paul oppose on Constitutional grounds, not to mention being an egregious human rights violation.. Thanks for the confirmation. Thanks for confirming that you are, indeed, an idiot. You know who the first "green party" was? The German National Socialist Party... aka the Nazis, a hard-left organization that put 21 million people in the ground before they were stopped. Oh, and that MUST mean that Green Party of 2012 is exactly the same, just like Germany today is just like Nazi Germany back then. LOL, great logic there.
He ducks, he dodges, he squirms, he slithers away.... well, it is the Year of the Snake after all! Funny how you like to pigeon hole me based on who I voted for, yet when I try to do it to you, you slither away. LOL! You just can't comprehend that we have minds of our own and are independent thinkers rather than Party People like you. Sad,really. And yet you think I don't, based on what? Because I don't agree with everything you do? You've heard me criticize Obama and Democrats, yet you persist. And so when I vote for a candidate from another party, you still call me a "Party People." I can only conclude that you are just too stupid to figure it out. Oh well, as we say here in Japan, shoganai, it can't be helped. It's good to see you admit it after being dragged kicking and screaming out into the daylight after the rock was overturned. Not that I really blame you.I would be ashamed to admit something like that,too. Yes, and Ron Paul must be a leftist too, since he agrees with so much I do, and I'm a leftist. Uh huh.
He ducks, he dodges, he squirms, he slithers away.... well, it is the Year of the Snake after all! No ducking,dodging,or squirming. I should have realized you wouldn't recognize the truth. After all,you voted for both Obummer AND the Green Party.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yeah, and that's it. Who I voted for. So tell me, what is the truth according to sneaky? Here's a little homework assignment for you. Compare where Ron Paul and the Green Party stand on various issues. Things like the wars, Gitmo, and legalizing marijuana. You might find they have some common ground. Is Ron Paul a leftist?
Kind of a broad question,ain't it? Try being a little more specific.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Try being a little more specific. The "truth" that I cannot recognize, according to you. And how about answering my question about Ron Paul. Is he a leftist?
Once again,too broad a question. Narrow the answer down to something smaller than War and Peace. And how about answering my question about Ron Paul. Is he a leftist? No,he's not.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
LOL. You're the one who brought it up to start with, claiming I can't recognize "the truth." Now you can't even tell me what you were talking about? No,he's not. Yet he agrees so much with leftists like the Green Party. Interesting.
He (Ron Paul) probably agrees with SOME of what the GP believes,and no,that doesn't make him a leftist or mean that he would vote for a GP candidate. Here is a little secret I hate to tell you because I don't want it getting out,but neither the Dims nor the Semi-Dims in the alleged Republican Party are right OR wrong about everything,and anybody who can't recognize that is too stupid to waste time debating with them.. I hope that didn't shatter your illusions too much.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
So how much does one have to agree with a leftist in order to actually be a leftist?
Like you,they have to only vote for leftist candidates. In addition,they have to even be confused enough to think the Republican Party isn't leftist. You admit to always voting left,therefore you are a leftist.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ron Paul is to the left of Rand Paul.
You and Meguro are to the left of Rand Paul and myself.
You and Meguro are to the left of Rand Paul and myself. You fell off the right end of the spectrum into a black hole.
In addition,they have to even be confused enough to think the Republican Party isn't leftist. You admit to always voting left,therefore you are a leftist. Ah, Arch called me a leftist. I'm scarred for life, whatever shall I do? You get more senile with each passing day, Arch.
And you are far to the left of both of them. You want a religious police state.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It's never too late to consider suicide.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Lol..are you still trying to teach that retard how to think? Good luck...
Good luck... Yeah, I know. An exercise in futility.
Go for it. I won't stop you. Although at your age, you might as well let nature run its course.
Add in the rest of the liberal congress-critters who endorsed John "Trigger Lock" McCain, and Willard "Semiauto Ban" Romney, and some form of so called gun control seems likely to get passed.
#2. To: Thunderbird, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: Thunderbird (#1)
#4. To: hondo68 (#0)
“In the coming days and weeks, we will engage in a meaningful conversation and thoughtful debate about how to change laws and culture that allow violence to grow,” said formerly pro-Second Amendment Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
#5. To: hondo68 (#0)
some form of so called gun control seems likely to get passed. (1 image)
#6. To: Thunderbird (#1)
(Edited)
You turd party losers are a BIG reason Harry Reid is still in office and Bronco Bama is getting a second term
#7. To: A K A Stone, Thunderbird (#3)
You are correct. Romney wasn't perfect but it was an entirely different path and future.
#8. To: sneakypete (#6)
No,shithead it is you dumbass loser Party People who continue to blindly support any traitor or just flat-out dumbass for sale that the Party Fathers you worship push out in front of the pack.
#9. To: mininggold (#8)
Are you one of those who believes in Reagan mythology?
#10. To: sneakypete, Thunderbird (#6)
#11. To: Abcdefg, Thunderbird, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#10)
It's the Republican's fault for running a shitty candidate who had no intention of winning. There was a better candidate, but the Gay Old Party stole several primaries for the designated loser.
#12. To: Abcdefg (#10)
There was a better candidate..
#13. To: Thunderbird (#12)
Define "better" and who was it?
#14. To: hondo68 (#0)
Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
#15. To: A K A Stone (#3)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#16. To: sneakypete (#5)
95 percent of the gun owners will continue to not give a damn as long as it is somebody else being arrested.
#17. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#8)
Are you one of those who believes in Reagan mythology? You must REALLY want to have your taxes raised.
#18. To: Thunderbird (#16)
Cry me a river you turd party loser.
#19. To: meguro (#17)
Red Ink Ronnie is his demigod.
#20. To: sneakypete (#19)
And you have Nobel Peace Prize winners like Jim-Mah Cawtur and Barry Soetoro,not to mention "the first black president and defender of whymen's rights,Bubba Bill Clinton".
#21. To: meguro (#20)
Carter deserves his for brokering a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt.
#22. To: Thunderbird (#1)
You turd party losers
#23. To: A K A Stone (#3)
You are correct. Romney wasn't perfect but it was an entirely different path and future.
#24. To: hondo68, sneakypete (#15)
There's a large segment of the population that didn't rush out to vote for gun grabber Mitt, but are rushing to buy guns and ammo.
#25. To: Thunderbird, sneakypete (#16)
It wasn't like you weren't WARNED what would happen in a second Obama term.
#26. To: Thunderbird (#16)
You made your bed...now go lie in it
#27. To: sneakypete (#18)
No,it was you shithead Party People that made this bed when you decided to back globalist traitors like Boy Jorge Bush,John McLunatic and Massachusetts Mitt. Why would any Dim vote for them when they had a formal Dim to vote for,and why would any conservative vote for them when their Dim opponents looked like right-wingers by comparison? Hey! Don't worry about it though,comrade! Just keep your mouth shut next time when the alleged Republicans run a candidate to the left of Obummer,and keep those contributions pouring in so "OUR evil candidate wins instead of THEIR evil candidate!" You will be permitted to mumble a humble "Yowsah,massa,yowsa! to your masters,though.
#28. To: We The People (#26)
#29. To: Thunderbird (#28)
Waah...stop cying like a little girl.
#30. To: Thunderbird (#28)
#31. To: We The People (#30)
#32. To: Thunderbird (#31)
#33. To: Thunderbird (#27)
Get your priorities in order retard, or you'll end up in a group home chained to the bedpost wearing a diaper.
#34. To: Abcdefg (#32)
Judging from your repeated references to male anal rape, one might think you are LP's Grand Island.
#35. To: sneakypete (#21)
Carter deserves nothing less than a horsewhipping. He is nothing more than a anti-American asshole.
#36. To: meguro (#35)
Carter deserves nothing less than a horsewhipping. He is nothing more than a anti-American asshole.
#37. To: sneakypete (#36)
No,I am not going to spend a bunch of time looking up the obvious and then giving you links. Do it yourself.
#38. To: meguro (#37)
The ultimate copout.
#39. To: sneakypete (#38)
(Edited)
Yeah,because it is such a big deep,dark secret that Jim-Mah was a bumbling fool and anti-American globalist asshole,right?
#40. To: meguro (#39)
What about your indoctrination?
#41. To: sneakypete (#40)
WHAT indoctrination? The one that makes me a free-thinker?
#42. To: meguro (#41)
Yeah, because anyone who doesn't think exactly like you is "indoctrinated," eh old geezer?
#43. To: sneakypete (#42)
Since I believe doctrine MUST be challenged and that the best system is the one with the maximum individual freedoms and the least amount of government power,the only sensible answer to your thoughtless challenge is, "Of course,comrade."
#44. To: meguro (#43)
What about me exactly makes you think I believe in so much government power?
#45. To: Abcdefg (#32)
Judging from your repeated references to male anal rape, one might think you are LP's Grand Island.
#46. To: sneakypete (#44)
(Edited)
Your admission that you are a leftist. It is impossible to be a leftist without supporting a police state that will give you all the freedom they think you need.
#47. To: Thunderbird, Abcdefg (#45)
-btw nobody ever said any of you whiney cunts were men.
#48. To: meguro (#46)
When have I ever said I supported a police state?
#49. To: sneakypete (#48)
You are a leftist. There is no such thing as a leftist nation that isn't a police state. You,BY DEFINITION believe the state should have more power than the individual.
#50. To: sneakypete (#47)
Yup,it's either Fire Island or Yu-Tard.
#51. To: meguro (#49)
He ducks, he dodges, he bobs, he weaves, he squirms, he slivers away... He blows off the question!
#52. To: meguro (#50)
Some believe Thunderbird is Boofer.
#53. To: sneakypete (#51)
#54. To: sneakypete (#52)
I don't know who Boofer is,
#55. To: meguro (#53)
Where's that list of things I said that supports my belief in a police state? In fact, can you name just ONE thing? C'mon, out with it!
#56. To: meguro (#54)
I don't know who Boofer is,
#57. To: sneakypete, meguro (#51)
Or is it possible your education is so flawed you actually believe leftism is about individual freedoms?
#58. To: sneakypete (#55)
the people who formed our country and who wrote and voted on our Constitution with a Bill of Rights were Libertarians.
#59. To: Thunderbird (#31)
snot nosed whiners like you
#60. To: sneakypete, Abcdefg, Thunderbird (#34)
I do believe it is Fire Island,back again with a new screen name.
#61. To: meguro (#37)
Obama is hardly a leftist. Much more a centrist actually, even a bit to the right.
#62. To: We The People (#59)
vote for your Massachusetts socialist.
#63. To: A K A Stone (#62)
I see that thrown around a lot. Mitt may not have been perfect. But calling him a socialist isn't honest.
#64. To: A K A Stone (#58)
Not even close Pete. They were liberty lovers yes. But libertarians no way.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)
Mitt may not have been perfect.
#66. To: We The People (#61)
Good God man!
#67. To: sneakypete (#55)
(Edited)
I've already told you at least 3 times right here on this thread. You are a leftist. I don't know how to dumb it down any further to help you understand it.
#68. To: meguro, sneakypete (#67)
And yet you can't cite just one instance of where I explicitly stated I support anything remotely resembling a police state. LOL! I understand alright.
#69. To: We The People (#59)
(Edited)
LOL! No, I think I'll stay, as long as it pleases me, and make you cry some more. If you're too big a pussy to handle it, use the filter.
#70. To: sneakypete (#64)
Libertarians want open borders? Sure of that,are you?
#71. To: Thunderbird, sneakypete (#45)
We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.
#72. To: meguro (#66)
I sure am, Weeps.
#73. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#68)
(Edited)
Reading between the lines together a large dose of fantasy is sneaky's specialty, in order to reach his comfort level which is: anyone not agreeing with him is a commie.
#74. To: We The People (#72)
Happy New Year to you too, faggot.
#75. To: meguro (#67)
And yet you can't cite just one instance of where I explicitly stated I support anything remotely resembling a police state.
#76. To: A K A Stone (#75)
The other day you said something to the affect that you were happy Obama was running rings around the Republicans.
#77. To: A K A Stone (#75)
Everything the usurper does is to advance himself and his police state. Everything.
#78. To: meguro (#77)
#79. To: meguro (#67)
And yet you can't cite just one instance of where I explicitly stated I support anything remotely resembling a police state.
#80. To: mininggold, meguro (#68)
Reading between the lines together a large dose of fantasy is sneaky's specialty, in order to reach his comfort level which is: anyone not agreeing with him is a commie.
#81. To: A K A Stone (#70)
Libertarians want open borders? Sure of that,are you?
#82. To: A K A Stone (#71)
We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade.
#83. To: A K A Stone (#71)
Peter eater thinks this is a quote from the founding fathers.
#84. To: sneakypete (#83)
Since you are incapable of thinking,how would you know what or how anybody else thinks?
#85. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#84)
You just said libertarians don't believe in open borders. I just showed you the contrary.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#86. To: sneakypete, mininggold (#80)
Look at who has came to cover your back,meg!
#87. To: A K A Stone (#78)
#88. To: sneakypete (#79)
(Edited)
I bet you don't "think" Cuba,Laos,VN,The USSR,Eastern Europe,and China were police states either,do you?
#89. To: A K A Stone (#84)
You just said libertarians don't believe in open borders.
#90. To: sneakypete (#89)
No,I wrote that not all Libertarians believe in open borders. YOU need to quit whining and admit that YOU are wrong.
#91. To: hondo68 (#85)
Even in the Libertarian Party there are factions which favor strict borders and deporting invaders.
#92. To: meguro (#86)
Still no examples of where I support a police state?
#93. To: meguro (#88)
I bet you don't "think" Cuba,Laos,VN,The USSR,Eastern Europe,and China were police states either,do you?
#94. To: A K A Stone (#90)
No,I wrote that not all Libertarians believe in open borders. YOU need to quit whining and admit that YOU are wrong.
#95. To: sneakypete (#92)
(Edited)
You voted for Obummer and you voted for the Green Party communist candidate.
#96. To: sneakypete (#93)
(Edited)
Really? Were/are they leftist governments? Were they police states?
#97. To: meguro (#95)
Still can't cite a single instance of anything "police state" I support.
#98. To: meguro (#96)
Does Sweden have a "leftist" government?
#99. To: sneakypete (#79)
The good news is you have a solid basis for a fraud suit against every school you ever attended.
#100. To: CZ82 (#99)
Now you know that's never gonna happen because he doesn't feel like he's been misled... The self appointed smart
#101. To: sneakypete (#100)
Now you know that's never gonna happen because he doesn't feel like he's been misled... The self appointed smart
#102. To: meguro (#74)
I'm not a cigarette, weeps.
#103. To: We The People (#102)
What's wrong? I thought those little pet names were all the rage with you and the rest of the hair pullers? I thought you liked that?
#104. To: meguro (#103)
Not really, weeps, but if you get off calling me them, knock yourself out.
#105. To: We The People (#104)
(Edited)
Let me spell this out for you. That little pet name that you call me???... I don't like it. It's childish and quite frankly, petty and stupid. It reminds me of some idiot on another forum that calls himself yukon. I can't have a serious conversation with people who act like that idiot.
#106. To: sneakypete (#98)
(Edited)
Another lie.I have defined it several times right here on this thread. Leftism calls for the dominance of the government over the people and the curtailing of individual freedoms. A government where the only real "right" the individuals have are to go along with government dictates or go to prison.
#107. To: sneakypete (#97)
And I'd done playing your little game.
#108. To: sneakypete (#97)
Gun Control,asshole
#109. To: We The People (#104)
It reminds me of some idiot on another forum that calls himself yukon.
#110. To: meguro, We The People (#105)
I'll make you a deal. You stop and I'll stop.
#111. To: meguro (#106)
I call for the legalization of drugs, gay marriage, a women's right to choose. Plus I want less militarism by the US, starting with ending all the senseless wars and closing Gitmo.
#112. To: meguro (#108)
Yeah, because I don't like the idea of psychos running around with guns.
#113. To: meguro (#105)
BTW, you heard that the aforementioned poster was booted from el Pee?
#114. To: sneakypete, meguro (#109)
Yu-Tard is no longer on LP. Goldi gave him the permanent boot this time.
#115. To: We The People, sneakypete (#113)
Wow. What did he do, post gay porn again?
#116. To: sneakypete (#111)
(Edited)
With the exception of your ignorance kneejerk response to Gitmo,if you believe all that WHY do you vote left?
#117. To: sneakypete (#112)
(Edited)
Another lie. You seem to have no problem with psychos running around with guns. You just object to sane citizens running around with them.
#118. To: We The People (#113)
Wow. What did he do, post gay porn again?
#119. To: meguro (#116)
Anyone can see what an egregious violation of human rights it is.
#120. To: meguro (#117)
No thanks, not interested. Waste of time.
#121. To: sneakypete (#120)
#122. To: sneakypete (#119)
(Edited)
No,anyone who doesn't live on Big Rock Candy Mountain understand that people who declare themselves to be your enemy and who are intent on destroying you only have a right to die.
#123. To: sneakypete (#120)
But...,but...,but,..., I thought you were a caped crusader when it comes to minorities?
#124. To: meguro, *Irony*, *Humor* (#122)
Tell us, Gramps, what does the great libertarian Ron Paul have to say about Gitmo?
#125. To: meguro (#123)
I just don't believe in putting them down like you.
#126. To: meguro (#122)
Tell us, Gramps, what does the great libertarian Ron Paul have to say about Gitmo? Is he for or against keeping prisoners looked up there indefinitely without due process under the law? Let's hear it!
...fools with no life experiences.
The Green Party espouses most of the viewpoints I do.
#127. To: Capitalist Eric (#126)
(Edited)
Since Ron Paul aways, steadfastly adhered to the Constitution, the question answers itself. The 4th and 15th Amendments both contain due-process clauses. There are a variety of aspects that these two clauses entail; I suggest you research this further, before continuing along this bone- headed line of thought. It makes you look grossly ignorant (which, being a leftist, you are, but that's another story).
#128. To: sneakypete (#124)
Don't know,don't care.
#129. To: meguro (#128)
Don't know,don't care.
#130. To: sneakypete (#129)
(Edited)
I should have realized you wouldn't recognize the truth. After all,you voted for both Obummer AND the Green Party.
#131. To: meguro (#130)
So tell me, what is the truth according to sneaky?
#132. To: sneakypete (#131)
Kind of a broad question,ain't it?
#133. To: meguro (#132)
The "truth" that I cannot recognize, according to you.
#134. To: sneakypete (#133)
Once again,too broad a question. Narrow the answer down to something smaller than War and Peace.
#135. To: meguro (#134)
Yet he agrees so much with leftists like the Green Party. Interesting.
#136. To: sneakypete (#135)
He (Ron Paul) probably agrees with SOME of what the GP believes,and no,that doesn't make him a leftist or mean that he would vote for a GP candidate.
#137. To: meguro (#136)
So how much does one have to agree with a leftist in order to actually be a leftist?
#138. To: sneakypete (#137)
#139. To: sneakypete (#137)
#140. To: A K A Stone (#139)
#141. To: sneakypete (#137)
Like you,they have to only vote for leftist candidates.
#142. To: A K A Stone (#138)
Ron Paul is to the left of Rand Paul.
#143. To: meguro (#141)
I'm scarred for life, whatever shall I do?
#144. To: meguro (#130)
Here's a little homework assignment for you. Compare where Ron Paul and the Green Party stand on various issues. Things like the wars, Gitmo, and legalizing marijuana. You might find they have some common ground.
#145. To: Thunderbird, sneakypete (#144)
(Edited)
Lol..are you still trying to teach that retard how to think?
#146. To: sneakypete (#143)
It's never too late to consider suicide.
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