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But in the days following the massacre of 20 first graders and six adults, the Gallup polling firm found that, by overwhelming majorities, most citizens favor decidedly different solutions to prevent further senseless attacks on our nation's schools. According to the survey, the most popular option chosen by respondents is boosting police presence at schools; 53 percent of respondents said more police would be "very effective" at reducing acts of mass murder, while another 34 percent said it would be "somewhat effective." In addition to boosting protective measures, Americans also believe that increasing funding and access to mental health services would be an effective deterrent. The Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, was reportedly afflicted with mental issues; so was the Aurora, Colo., shooter, James Holmes. Fully half of respondents - 50 percent - said more mental health access and funding would be "very effective" at reducing future violence, with an additional 34 percent saying such measures would be "somewhat effective." Only 14 percent said they believed more funding would not be effective. Arm the educators Americans also believe that there is far too much violence depicted on television and in video games to which kids are exposed. 47 percent of respondents said reducing depictions of gun violence in movies, on television and in video games would go a long way towards reducing real-life violence; 31 percent said doing so would be "somewhat effective." What is especially noteworthy; however, is the number of Americans who believe that arming school personnel would be an effective deterrent; fully 64 percent believe allowing education professionals to be armed would be a "very effective" or "somewhat effective" step. It's this latter idea that is catching on in a number of public policy and law enforcement circles. Just days after the Sandy Hook shooting, St. Louis County Police Chief Tom Fitch stated plainly that educators and education professionals should be trained to carry weapons and armed while in school, to protect kids. "We can talk on the back end of the need for funding of mental illness programs and gun control, but as a law enforcement officer, I'm focused on that five-minute window that it takes for the cops to get there while people are getting killed," he said. "There is somebody out there right now trying to figure out how to do something worse than this guy did, and there is only one way to end a threat, and that's with lethal force." "We cannot continue to do things as we've always done it, that's why we need to have frank discussion in this country as to where we go from here," he added. At this point, denial has become our most dangerous enemy Knee-jerk reactionaries; however, quickly dismissed his suggestion and illogical, unworkable, foolish - you name it - but Fitch, a career law enforcement officer, remained undeterred, mostly because he has yet to hear a better idea. "How do you think we should respond to that?" he said during an interview on local radio station KMOX, regarding the lag time when shots are first fired to when police arrive. "Nobody has an answer. Nobody has said, 'well, I would do this.' They just say, 'I don't like what you said, it's unacceptable, it's irresponsible, you should be fired.' I've heard all of that. But, nobody has an answer for that critical time period." He's not alone. Other law enforcement and security experts have similar sentiments. In an excerpt from a compelling article posted online at PoliceOne.com, featuring a hard-hitting presentation on school security by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, the solution is laid bare: The challenge for law enforcement agencies and officers, then, is to overcome not only the attacks taking place in schools, but to first overcome the denial in the minds of mayors, city councils, school administrators, and parents. Grossman said that agencies and officers, although facing an uphill slog against the denial of the general public, must diligently work toward increasing understanding among the sheep that the wolves are coming for their children. Police officers must train and drill with teachers, not only so responding officers are intimately familiar with the facilities, but so that teachers know what they can do in the event of an attack. Sources: http://www.gallup.com http://www.stltoday.com http://news.stlpublicradio.org Poster Comment: Progressive denial is killing people. Many refuse to admit that guns are how you stop a murdering maniac. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 47. #1. To: hondo68 (#0) Gallup Poll: Romney Obama Election Too Close To Call ;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   10:23:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: All (#1) "The only thing that can protect a school from a bad guy with a lobby is a good guy with a lobby." mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   10:24:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: All (#2) He offered no "major contributions" to the question of what, if anything, should be done to regulate access to combat-styled fire arms, ammunition or high-capacity magazines used in so many mass shootings of late. Nothing. No changes. No additional safety regulations. Not even the minimal, very reasonable gun safety regulations that the vast majority of NRA rank and file members (if not their con-men leadership) are calling for by huge numbers. Instead, he said, we need to put armed guards in every school in America. Oh, it's also Barack Obama's fault as well, because, says LaPierre, he "zeroed out" money for emergency school security in the last budget. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-22   10:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: mcgowanjm (#3) Teachers need guns to protect the kids and themselves. You want them to get shot, before the police show up with GUNS, to stop the assassin? You must hate teachers and kids. Hondo68  posted on  2012-12-22   10:46:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: hondo68 (#4) Teachers need guns to protect the kids and themselves. You want them to get shot, before the police show up with GUNS, to stop the assassin? You must hate teachers and kids. Armed volunteers are the current proposal by the NRA. A K A vigilantes. I could definitely see you in the Zimmerman role of killing kids with Skittles, hoodies and a 'wrong attitude'. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-22   13:01:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: mininggold (#8) Armed volunteers are the current proposal by the NRA. A K A vigilantes. You really do have a deviant mind,don't you? What's the matter,afraid some murderer is going to get killed before he can murder more innocents? Or are you just afraid your side has pushed so hard to destroy the country that it has became obvious to so many people that Constitutional Law no longer exists in this country,and the people (Vigilantes in YOUR mind) are going to take it back and start hanging you and the people you vote for? sneakypete  posted on  2012-12-22   15:39:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: sneakypete (#15) (Edited) Or are you just afraid your side has pushed so hard to destroy the country that it has became obvious to so many people that Constitutional Law no longer exists in this country,and the people (Vigilantes in YOUR mind) are going to take it back and start hanging you and the people you vote for? So instead of displaying your lack of an argument, by posting only insults and imaginary tangents, why don't you tell us how armed volunteers AREN'T vigilantes. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-23   11:23:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: mininggold (#19) So instead of displaying your lack of an argument, by posting only insults and imaginary tangents, why don't you tell us how armed volunteers AREN'T vigilantes. The same way the pigs aren't vigilantes. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-23   11:33:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: A K A Stone (#20) The same way the pigs aren't vigilantes. That's too subtle. I can guarantee you it went right over her head. sneakypete  posted on  2012-12-23   12:29:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: sneakypete (#27) (Edited) That's too subtle. I can guarantee you it went right over her head. Then why can't you explain the difference? Cat got your tongue, or maybe you just can't translate your delusions into plain English. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-23   12:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: mininggold (#28) Then why can't you explain the difference? It's not that I can't,it's that YOU are incapable of understanding the difference. Mostly because calling you a idiot would be bragging on you. You just ain't that sharp. Cat got your tongue, Oh,yeah.I'm always afraid to speak my mind. Good catch! or maybe you just can't translate your delusions into plain English. ROFLMAO! THAT'S rich coming from you! sneakypete  posted on  2012-12-23   12:49:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: sneakypete (#33) (Edited) Instead of your constant dancing around the subject, just spit out the reasons why a volunteer generally is the equivalent to a paid professional. They should be on the tip of your tongue. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-23   12:53:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: mininggold (#35) just spit out the reasons why a volunteer generally is the equivalent to a paid professional. Most volunteers WERE paid professionals,dummy! So whoever votes (D) gets put on the list. Sounds like that might just work. Not that I disagree with that because I don't,but WHERE did I post that? It certainly wasn't in the post of mine that you were quoting. sneakypete  posted on  2012-12-23   12:55:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: sneakypete (#36) (Edited) Your delusions don't make it so. That last post was an artifact I deleted after I pasted it wrongly. See.... my eye sight isn't like it was 45 years ago only I WILL admit it. mininggold  posted on  2012-12-23   12:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: mininggold (#38) Please stay out of the voting booth. The school children are depending on it. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-23   13:13:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: A K A Stone (#41) Please stay out of the voting booth. The school children are depending on it. I'll vote anyway I want, and generally the opposite of you if I possibly can do so. Do you really think that you crazyland inhabitants are attracting voters to your cause? Plus you have said you would get rid of public schools if you could. Maybe you perceive the average fifth grader as being smarter than you and you want to even the odds. Who knows? mininggold  posted on  2012-12-23   13:20:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: mininggold (#44) I'll vote anyway I want, and generally the opposite of you if I possibly can do so. Do you really think that you crazyland inhabitants are attracting voters to your cause? STAY OUT OF THE VOTING BOOTH! For the children. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-23   13:21:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: A K A Stone (#46) STAY OUT OF THE VOTING BOOTH! For the children. Why do you hate the rest of the US constitution so much? mininggold  posted on  2012-12-23   13:23:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 47. #50. To: mininggold (#47) Why do you hate the rest of the US constitution so much? Which part is that bag lady? A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-23 13:24:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 47. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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