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Title: Deadliest Assault Weapon With The Most Fatalities Ever Used On American Soil
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URL Source: http://www.worldstatesmen.org/index2.html
Published: Dec 18, 2012
Author: Ben Cahoon
Post Date: 2012-12-18 23:51:35 by Murron
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Deadliest Assault Weapon With The Most Fatalities Ever Used On American Soil 2,973 (+/-) people perished September 11, 2001 after hijacked planes crashed in New York City, in Arlington, Virginia and in Pennsylvania. The victims were mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers of many faiths and races who came from more than 80 nations. American Airlines flight 11, a Boeing 767, on a morning Boston to Los Angeles flight (north tower of World Trade Center). The plane was hijacked soon after take-off at 8:02 EDT, and was crashed into the north side of the northern tower of the World Trade Center at 8:46 AM EDT, approximately between floors 96 and 103. 92 people: 81 passengers (including 5 hijackers, 9 flight attendants, 2 pilots United Airlines flight 175 a Boeing 767 on a morning Boston to Los Angeles route. On September 11, 2001, the plane was hijacked and on or about 9:03 AM EDT crashed into the south side of the southern tower of the World Trade Center, approximately between floors 87 and 93, exploding on impact. The plane was carrying 56 passengers and 9 crew members. The Pentagon reported 125 staffers killed or missing, including the highest ranking officer to die, Lt. General Timothy Maude and Max Bielke, who the last official U.S. combat soldier to leave Vietnam. With 118 remains recovered and identified, as of Sep 2002. One person died later as a result of wounds sustained. American Airlines Flight 77, 64 passengers and Crew died. Among the victims was Barbara K. Olson, a conservative author, lawyer and wife of U.S. Solicitor General, Theodore Olson, as well as two Washington, D.C. "National Geographic Magazine" staff members, three teachers and three children who were traveling to California on a National Geographic Society sponsored trip. In Pennsylvania: United Airlines flight 93 was a Boeing 757 on a morning Newark-to-San Francisco route. On 11 Sep 2001 the plane was hijacked by a four man hijacking team. The plan was carrying 37 passengers and 7 crew members. There were no survivors. There Were No 'Assault Rifles' or 'hand guns' used in the deadliest mass murder committed on American soil. 
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If a deranged psychopath is hell bent on slaughtering scores of innocent men, women and children, their choice of weapons is only limited by their imaginations. ~ Murron JMHO!
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
Cars, machetes, TNT, Gasoline, internet.
What's good enough for the Israelis should be good enough for you.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
If so called "airport security" hadn't disarmed most of the passengers & crew on those flights, things might have turned out a lot less tragically on 9/11. The government solution... more of the same failed policies. The TSA was invented to grope passengers, the DHS to spy on everyone and make us less free, the patriot act, and now NDAA where they can just disappear people with no trial or due process of law. So called "first responders" often take 20 minutes or more to get there. Joe or Jane Sixpack citizen carrying a gun is a better bet to deal with psycho's before they rack up a large body count. Because they're actually THERE where they can do some good. IMO End the gun-free killing zones.
mininggold: "What's good enough for the Israelis should be good enough for you." Uttered libertysflames resident punchline and bimbo! Kahlberg: Why There Are No School Shootings In Israel December 17, 2012 By Marc Kahlberg With yet another terrible tragedy at a U.S. school, perhaps it is time we energize and educate the public on how these crazy shootings can be prevented. A “head in the sand” citizenry must be a thing of the past. There is no other way to deal with these violent tragedies but to adopt a method similar to what Israel uses when thwarting terror. That is to share and use information about people by simply being aware and alert. Since the Columbine tragedy in 1999, many theories and tactics have emerged on how U.S. law enforcement should respond to such incidents. But the only tactic that was ever discussed or implemented was a reactive one, where officers considered mostly military tactics. Time has passed, and as we saw with the senseless murder of innocent children last week, the problem has not been solved. It is seemingly getting worse. The slaughter of these innocents in what is supposed to be a safe environment of a school reminds us once again that schools need to do more to protect the safety of the children in their care. This is not about reaction. It is about prevention. It is about proactive intelligence methods that every police department in the Western world should implement, as they do in every other aspect of classic policing. Israeli law requires that an armed security guard be on duty at all times in all educational environments. No person can enter a protected school without being physically checked. Most Israelis have had military training, so in a school environment, there are people who have weapons and know how to use them to defeat an attacker. They also have the tools to question any visitor in a way where a simple set of questions will in most cases allow them to determine a good or bad intent. Weapons alone in the hands of school security officials or teachers will never prevent an attack, but they may certainly delay it from escalating, ending it far more quickly than simply waiting for the nearest police backup to arrive at the scene. But intense training and coordination is required. Access should be strictly limited, perimeters should be protected with cameras monitored while students are on the property, and as in Israel, no strangers or people without good reason to be on campus should be allowed into any school. Access control should include searches and the use of technology such as metal detectors, like those used when entering a government building. Protecting schools and training their personnel to prevent and respond to attacks should be a priority in all educational systems around the world. Our future is dependent on keeping our next generation safe, especially at school, and whether the school borders are physical or virtual, the community’s help in providing information and intelligence is vital to ensuring a safe community and protecting the future generations to come. Reaction is simply not good enough.
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
Israel itself is a militarized zone. I guess that's what you gun nut fundies want here. But i think that Mcgowanjm had it right today. Create a rat race, speed it up and speed it, until many can no longer keep upand become frustrated, add guns and then just stand back. And no one cares to change it one iota, least of all you fundy gun lackies. How's your horse? Have you ever had one shot by idiots with guns out joy riding just looking for something to kill? Here's what happened to one my cousin had. Two white guys in their early twenties with a pistol decided to have some fun with her horse. They shot the horse five times, just so the horse was unable to run away and then they went after it's head with a board with a nail on it. Until it was missing an eye, had a broken jaw and knocked out the front teeth. Then they left it bleeding and dying, but not before they were spotted by neighbors and ran off. The horse actually survived after massive vet bills and a bout with tetanus although it was only good for being a broodmare. The guys were never apprehended.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You want more bloody dead kids so that you can pass gun bans and disarm us, and have Sharia law NEA communist teachers union rule. Fire those commie union teachers, and hire some ones that can shoot straight! It's for the children.
Most criminals are chickenschitts anyway, flash a gun at them or shoot in their general direction and they haul ass... Especially the ones who like to point their weapons like this “We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”
It's for the children. You have a chance to step away. Your Society has a chance. Some say. Choose wisely.
Even today, following the greatest gun-related tragedy involving small children, in U.S. history, there are still denialists and disinformers who continue to obfuscate and otherwise come up with specious arguments against any form of gun control.
Let's see...the U.S. has troops in 140 countries, two ongoing military blunders, a $700 billion dollar military budget - greater than all other nations combined, more guns per capita than any other country in the world, a mentally unstable population overdosed on junk food and junk culture, PTSD veterans who are homeless but happen to be very proficient with machine guns, roughly several hundred thousand fully automatic weapons floating around in god knows whose hands, the most paranoid anti-government demented hillbillies you will ever meet, and now an economy teetering on depression with a middle class income already falling into the abyss. You don't have to be a fucking genius to see where all of this is heading
You do that a lot, mcgowanjm, but your not alone, other's here do it too. You sit on the fence post and critisize other's for their opinions and the stands they take on the issues, yet you neglect to post where it is you stand on the subject. Step away to where? What chance are you talking about? And, are you taking this 'chance' you so glubbly speak of? Choose what wisely? I'll wait! (“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
They've had their shot at pathetic attempts to keep our children safe, and every time, what the hell is their answer? It's to disarm millions of innocent Americans who have never commited any crimes. This government, your government, their way of dealing with a deadly situation, mcgowanjm? If you go by their usual habits, their usual process is party, party, party, vacations, spend, spend, spend, eat, drink and be merry all night, all day...until something happens, then hide, isolate, remove the media, make prohibitions, make excuses, threaten innocent citizens with disarmament, send press releases, make compensations, bury the bodies, then go back to eating and drinking until the next situation. Their way of dealing with things isn’t much more noble than a murderer’s, except our government is better at creating more victims for the murderers, than protecting the innocent. (“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
It's time to face the facts, your big government social engineering experiments have been a disaster. The new deal, great society, nanny state meddling in everything from shower heads to automobiles, to what shrubs you can have in your yard. The more problems gov creates, the worse things get. They created gun-free kill zones, and then progressive retards wonder why psycho's choose them to kill? DUH, it's safer for criminals there! Your denialist disinformation efforts have failed. No one is buying that BS anymore.
This one's especially for you, hondo We JUST had an election where the public (not to mention Every. Single. Poll.) overwhelmingly said no cuts to Social Security or Medicare, and raise taxes on income over $250K. That ought to mean something. But the "word" out of DC is that a deal is underway that cuts the Social Security COLA and increases the income level subject to a higher tax from $250K to $400K. Senators and Representatives who are thinking of touching the "third rail:" How many constituents are calling your office today to say, "Yes, I want you to cut the Social Security COLA"? www.seeingtheforest.com/a...t+%28Seeing+The+Forest%29 What the 'Fiscal Cliff' is all about. What last year's 'Emergency' was all about. And the year before, and Day 1 of Obama: Gut Social Security. And stick it to the Bottom 99% in the Most Painless Way Possible.
But Gov't creates a Great Military, eh? Or do you have some Uber Strategy on that.....;}
Who's this 'They'? bush43 and No Child Left Behind? You've done nothing but take away rights since the Selection/Coup of 2000 and 9/11 and Now claim that you've done all you can? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA We're just getting started.
Sitting on the Fence? Please. Bring the Troops home now. Reverse the Coup of 2000. Realize that cheney/SS/PNAC/NORAD/MOSSAD/CIA did 9/11, and we've just gone over the hill with the End of the War of 9/11. WE either get rid of our Empire or Democracy dies. Positives? Here's TWO: Single Payer (MENTAL HEALTH CARE ANYONE?) Medicare/VA for ALL AND We JUST had an election where the public (not to mention Every. Single. Poll.) overwhelmingly said no cuts to Social Security or Medicare, and raise taxes on income over $250K. That ought to mean something. But the "word" out of DC is that a deal is underway that cuts the Social Security COLA and increases the income level subject to a higher tax from $250K to $400K. Senators and Representatives who are thinking of touching the "third rail:" How many constituents are calling your office today to say, "Yes, I want you to cut the Social Security COLA"? www.seeingtheforest.com/a...t+%28Seeing+The+Forest%29 What the 'Fiscal Cliff' is all about. What last year's 'Emergency' was all about. And the year before, and Day 1 of Obama: Gut Social Security. And stick it to the Bottom 99% in the Most Painless Way Possible. But maybe your def of Fence Sitting and Mine are two different things.....;}
I'm going with CZ on this one. The hiring of MORE teachers is a Great Idea as well. 8D #3. To: mcgowanjm (#1) Next, of course, comes the empty ritual of pretending that we must make sure something like this never happens again. Making mental health treatment easier to access/receive would be a start!! (Anything else is just a waste of time).... Besides this seems to run in cycles, as morality drops the mass killings seem to go up... “We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.” CZ82 posted on 2012-12-19 17:06:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #4. To: BorisY (#2) hire more teachers ... save more unions --- buckwheat ! That would solve all of our problems wouldn't it!!! (sarc).... “We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.” CZ82 posted on 2012-12-19 17:07:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #5. To: CZ82, Fred Mertz, Mininggold, All (#3) Making mental health treatment easier to access/receive would be a start!! (Anything else is just a waste of time).... And Thank You. Another Vote for Single Payer/Medicare/VA for ALL. Welcome to the Club. 8D mcgowanjm posted on 2012-12-19 21:00:30 ET
link please. You are not known for your honesty.
Some of those mentally unstable people have even said stupid stuff like all artic ice melted by next year.
The wuss wont even admit he voted for Obama and Bush.
O and get rid of the Hollow Points. ;}
It's not the gun's fault! Maybe they just watched Keith Olbermann foaming at the mouth? Or Ed Shultz, or Rachael Maddcow. In their drug induced haze, the horse might have looked like Rush Limbaugh. So what good could banning hi-caps and assault weapons possibly do? They didn't use either in this incident. It would make more sense to ban MSLSD, not that I'm in favor of that either. If they didn't have a gun, they might have used a bow and arrow, or other weapons. Would you be happy then? The problem is the deranged individuals that the education system is pumping out, not the tools that they use to commit horrifying deeds like this. The largest unions in California are... teachers and correctional officers. The kids just flow in the pipeline from school to jail.
Uttered libertysflames resident punchline and bimbo! Lol..bump!
A link to what? My cousin? She is your type though. A Tea Bagger with lots of hard miles on her. I will tell you though she's spends her whole day on every social website that will have her.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
There should be a link to the newspaper article that covered the story. Or a police report.
It weren't in no newspapers. And if you think I am going down Bay Area to pay 50 bucks to get a police report to satisfy your borderline craziness, you are truly nuts. But you all just keep thinking I'm Lucy. You hear? LOLOLOLOL
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You forgot to add... "When they do something extremely stupid blame the other guy"!!
“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”
Not really, not when I see them here, looks like you and I agree on quite a few things, not everything, but that's to be expected, we're different people. I think we tend to misunderstand one another occasionally in our haste, I'll try to focus on all your posts and see where you and I agree, or disagree. Right now I'm so busy with baking and getting Christmas boxes together for my g- kids who are scattered to the winds this year. Thanks!
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
How long will it take for gun-grabbing opportunists to predictably step on these shattered lives and call for more gun control? And the answer to that is the usual–not long at all. How Many Sandy Hook Elementary School Kids Might Have Been Saved If A Teacher Had a Gun? A Michigan law that is working its way through the legislature to allow Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders to bring guns into schools (with a few hours of additional training by the CPL holder) may now be held up because gun- grabbers will use this tragic incident as an argument against it. And, essentially, they will compare innocent, law-abiding, trained gun owners to this crazy person who shot up the kids today. Schools need more guns in the hands of law-abiding adults, not less. In Israel, there are armed security guards at schools. And despite the fact that Israel is surrounded by those who would destroy it, despite the fact that there are rocket and other terrorist attacks against Israelis every single day, the kids at Israeli schools are very safe. The only times when they’ve been killed is when there were no guns around, as with the Merkaz HaRav Yeshivah, where students were shot up and murdered by two Islamic terrorists in 2008. (They were finally stopped by guns.) Because schools are guarded by armed guards in Israel, students at schools there have a much greater chance of being attacked and/or killed in a bus bomb on the way to or from school than when they are in their classrooms. And while in their classrooms, the greatest threat is a HAMAS rocket, not a crazy armed gunman like the one at Sandy Hook Elementary today. Despite that, those of us who support a strong Second Amendment and the right to keep and bear arms are constantly mocked by the left, especially those on the left who live in gated communities and have fancy alarm systems, armed bodyguards, and other security. They mock people like Rep. Frank Lasee of Wisconsin who, in 2006, (MSMBC) introduced legislation in Wisconsin to arm teachers. “To make our schools safe for our students to learn, all options should be on the table,” he said. “Israel and Thailand have well-trained teachers carrying weapons and keeping their children safe from harm. It can work in Wisconsin.” In Thailand, where officials have been waging a bloody fight with Muslim separatists for the last two years, some teachers carry weapons for self defense as they are viewed as part of the government. In Israel, teachers are not allowed to carry weapons in the school, but security guards at the entrances are armed. The fact remains that law abiding citizens with guns stop malefactors with guns, unless, as with today’s shooter, the gunman commits suicide. Remember how Islamic terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan was stopped from taking more than 13 lives at Fort Hood? Others with guns on the base shot him. How many lives might have been saved today if a teacher had a gun? How many lives might have been saved at Virginia Tech because a student had a gun? The best gun control is to have a gun. It’s the only thing that will stop someone else from killing you. If you want to infringe upon my Second Amendment rights, it means you want to take my First and latter Amendment rights, too. We have got to allow Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders to bring guns into our schools, trained adults (teachers, security, faculty members) with hours of additional training by the CPL holder, adults who have had complete background checks and mental evaluations, stricter surveillance and admittance. Gun- grabbers in every deadly massacre for decades have always used the same lame answer, "disarm the public". In every tragic school shooting, the best they can come up with is, to compare innocent, law-abiding, trained gun owners to these crazy people who terrorize and murder our children. Gun grabbers (the ignorant public) are the epitome of an 'Insane' person, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, Governments on the other hand, have their own nafarious reasons. ~ Murron JMHO! (“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
Chocolate Chip Oatmeal W/ Pecans. And don't scrimp on the nuts.....;} Banana Nut. Banana's black for easy smushing. With Black Walnuts......;} Merry Christmas
And don't scrimp on the nuts.....;} Banana Nut. Banana's black for easy smushing. With Black Walnuts......;} Merry Christmas You are kidding me, right? I am still up baking.... If I don't see another Christmas cookie, chocolate browny, peanut butter log, or pecan loaf, I will be happy...lmbo... Merry Christmas to you and your family, Jim, God Bless!
(“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
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Maybe you can share some recipes with mininggold. That way maybe she wouldn't be so mean.
Maybe you should mind your own business.
The site is my business. Maybe I should put you to three posts a day.
Maybe you should shut your big yap, you freak'n loser.
Sure I would, if I thought she'd actually eat it.... (“You can't always control who walks into your life but, you can control which window you throw them out of.”)
The real "loser" here is you Ferdie. Go home and eat some catfood and stfu.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestMurron: "There Were No 'Assault Rifles' or 'hand guns' used in the deadliest mass murder committed on American soil."
#2. To: Murron (#1)
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)
#4. To: Murron (#0)
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"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#5. To: All, A K A Stone, mininggold (#0)
#3. To: A K A Stone
#6. To: Murron, McGowanjm (#5)
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#7. To: mininggold, Murron (#6)
gun nut fundies
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: hondo68 (#4)
Joe or Jane Sixpack citizen carrying a gun is a better bet to deal with psycho's before they rack up a large body count.
#9. To: hondo68 (#7)
Fire those commie union teachers, and hire some ones that can shoot straight!
#10. To: All (#9)
#11. To: All (#10)
#12. To: mcgowanjm, hondo68, ALL (#9)
"You have a chance to step away. Your Society has a chance. Some say. Choose wisely."
#13. To: mcgowanjm (#10)
Even today, following the greatest gun-related tragedy involving small children, in U.S. history, there are still denialists and disinformers who continue to obfuscate and otherwise come up with specious arguments against any form of gun control.
#14. To: mcgowanjm, Murron, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#10)
there are still denialists and disinformers who continue to obfuscate and otherwise come up with specious arguments
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#15. To: hondo68 (#14)
#16. To: hondo68 (#14)
#17. To: Murron (#13)
#18. To: Murron (#12)
ou sit on the fence post and critisize other's for their opinions and the stands they take on the issues, yet you neglect to post where it is you stand on the subject.
#19. To: Murron, hondo68, All (#14)
#20. To: mininggold (#6)
Here's what happened to one my cousin had. Two white guys in their early twenties with a pistol decided to have some fun with her horse. They shot the horse five times, just so the horse was unable to run away and then they went after it's head with a board with a nail on it. Until it was missing an eye, had a broken jaw and knocked out the front teeth. Then they left it bleeding and dying, but not before they were spotted by neighbors and ran off.
#21. To: mcgowanjm (#11)
a mentally unstable population
#22. To: Murron (#12)
yet you neglect to post where it is you stand on the subject.
#23. To: All (#19)
#24. To: mininggold, Murron (#6)
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Two white guys in their early twenties with a pistol decided to have some fun with her horse. They shot the horse five times, just so the horse was unable to run away and then they went after it's head with a board with a nail on it. Until it was missing an eye, had a broken jaw and knocked out the front teeth. Then they left it bleeding and dying, but not before they were spotted by neighbors and ran off.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#25. To: Murron (#5)
mininggold: "What's good enough for the Israelis should be good enough for you."
#26. To: A K A Stone (#20)
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link please. You are not known for your honesty.
#27. To: mininggold (#26)
#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)
link please. You are not known for your honesty.
#29. To: Murron (#13)
This government, your government, their way of dealing with a deadly situation, mcgowanjm? If you go by their usual habits, their usual process is party, party, party, vacations, spend, spend, spend, eat, drink and be merry all night, all day...until something happens, then hide, isolate, remove the media, make prohibitions, make excuses, threaten innocent citizens with disarmament, send press releases, make compensations, bury the bodies, then go back to eating and drinking until the next situation. Their way of dealing with things isn’t much more noble than a murderer’s, except our government is better at creating more victims for the murderers, than protecting the innocent.
#30. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
But maybe your def of Fence Sitting and Mine are two different things.....;}
#31. To: All (#0)
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On the CT School Shooting: Just Remember, Israeli Schools Are Protected With GUNS
#32. To: Murron (#30)
#33. To: mcgowanjm (#32)
Chocolate Chip Oatmeal W/ Pecans.
#34. To: Murron (#33)
If I don't see another Christmas cookie, chocolate browny, peanut butter log, or pecan loaf, I will be happy...lmbo...
#35. To: Murron (#33)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)
#37. To: Fred Mertz (#36)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)
#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)
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"Maybe you can share some recipes with mininggold. That way maybe she wouldn't be so mean."
#40. To: Fred Mertz (#38)
Maybe you should shut your big yap, you freak'n loser.
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