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Title: Shhh ... NY Times Reports on NY city --- Orthodox GOP Vote
Source: blogs.forward.com/
URL Source: http://blogs.forward.com/forward-th ... -reports-on-orthodox-gop-vote/
Published: Nov 25, 2012
Author: J.J. Goldberg
Post Date: 2012-11-27 01:34:43 by BorisY
Keywords: rotten apple, rotten apple, rotten apple
Views: 4635
Comments: 10

Shhh: NY Times Reports on Orthodox GOP Vote

By J.J. Goldberg

November 25, 2012

Some news, apparently, is fit to print, but not too boldly. Take, for example, the demure self-censorship on display Saturday in the New York Times’ eye-opening report, headlined “On Island, Largely Blue, an Exception: Trump Tower,” on the handful of New York City neighborhoods that voted for Mitt Romney over President Obama. Overall, the city voted Obama over Romney 81% to 18%.

The headline and the first five paragraphs were about the two isolated election precincts on the Upper East Side of Manhattan Island where Romney won half or more of the vote. It wasn’t until paragraph 7 to find out that the main news began to trickle out: that the “deepest single bloc of Republican support in all the five boroughs” was a four-square-block section of Gravesend, Brooklyn, “dotted with Sephardic temples and yeshivas.”

Finally, well into the jump, we learned that Romney “enjoyed strong support from a range of neighborhoods with large populations of Orthodox Jews.” Many precincts in Borough Park, Kew Gardens Hills and Sheepshead Bay (which is largely Russian, not Orthodox) voted 90% GOP. A note on the accompanying map gave you the money quote: “Mr. Obama’s worst precincts were in Orthodox Jewish areas like Ocean Parkway and Williamsburg in Brooklyn and Kew Gardens Hills in Queens.”

The map shows the city’s 5,286 precincts as a sea of blue and red dots, shaded darker or lighter to indicate higher or lower percentages of partisan leaning. The darkest red voted over 80% for Romney, while pale pink gave him 50% to 65%. In addition to the broad swathes of dark red running down Brooklyn from Hasidic Borough Park down Sephardic Ocean Park to Russian Brighton Beach, there are dark red clusters in mostly Italian-American Dyker Heights, Brooklyn, and mostly Irish-American (and storm-ravaged) Breezy Point, Queens.

The Irish-Italian south shore of Staten Island is all pink, but the borough overall gave Obama a slight edge. There are interesting pink clusters as well in the Irish enclave of Woodlawn in the north Bronx and heavily Italian Pelham Bay in the east Bronx, as well mostly Italian Howard Beach, Queens, plus tiny red clusters in the Satmar section of Williamsburg and the Lubavitch section of Crown Heights, Brooklyn, and one isolated red dot in what appears to be the dwindling Modern Orthodox east Bronx enclave of Pelham Parkway.

To understand why the Times buried its very serious lede below a frothy Trump headline, consider this Politico story reporting on the Times’ findings. The headline, “Inside Obama’s New York win,” is bland enough. But the report doesn’t mince words: It comes right to the point, noting twice (once in its citywide summary, once in its Brooklyn borough breakdown) that Orthodox Jews were Romney’s strongest base in the Big Apple.

Not surprisingly, the Politico story is followed by a lively and at times venomous exchange of comments. A few nuggets:

As a traditional/orthodox Jew, I really don’t appreciate all the orthodox bashing going on here. Overall, I think we are a very kind and charitable community. The bottom line is that most traditional Jews voted for Romney for two main reasons #1 they felt that Obama was soft on Muslim extremism/hatred for Israel in the Middle East. …

…If the Orthodox and/or hardline view ever gain a dominant foothold in Isreal or among American Jews, I will demand that we losen our ties with Israel.

Read more: http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/166681/shhh-ny-times-reports-on-orthodox-gop-vote/#ixzz2DOynXE7Q


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#1. To: All, miningscum, fred, ferret, bstupid (#0)

Worms in a rotten apple - barrel !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-11-27   19:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BorisY (#0)

The bottom line is that most traditional Jews voted for Romney for two main reasons #1 they felt that Obama was soft on Muslim extremism/hatred for Israel in the Middle East. …

Looks like you just gave whiningmold another reason to hate Jews!!

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-11-27   20:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BorisY (#1)

Worms

Worms, indeed!

lol

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-27   21:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#3)

Overall, the city voted Obama - 81% over Romney to - 18%.

poison apple - tree !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-11-27   23:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#2) (Edited)

Looks like you just gave whiningmold another reason to hate Jews!!

It's Israel Firsters traitors like Boris that I can't stand. You seem to think all Jews are Zionists, which is probably intentional on your part.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-28   2:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mininggold (#5)

You seem to think all Jews are Zionists, which is probably intentional on your part.

And you seem to hate all Jews which is intentional on your part...

Hate is such an irrational emotion... Most people don't even know why they hate someone/something in the first place.... And to top it all off others can do the same exact things as the ones you hate and you ignore their actions...

Freud would have a ball in todays world!!

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-11-28   6:46:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#6) (Edited)

And you seem to hate all Jews which is intentional on your part...

Hate is such an irrational emotion... Most people don't even know why they hate someone/something in the first place.... And to top it all off others can do the same exact things as the ones you hate and you ignore their actions...

Freud would have a ball in todays world!!

You equate all Jews as being pseudo Israelis which is truly disingenious on your part and then call ME the hater, again you are disingenious. Until you have a valid premise, you have no argument and I win.... your attempts at distraction, deflection and innuendo are noted.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-28   10:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#7)

your attempts at distraction, deflection and innuendo are noted.

Note it all you want, I equate that with being called a racist by a Leftard...

I've had some Jews in my family over the years and have served with some from the IDF when I was in the military.. About the only thing I have seen that was different about them was some of their religious beliefs (and those aren't much different from Christianity), other than that they were just like anybody you meet walking down the street...

Reading propaganda articles is one thing, personal experience is quite another!!

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-11-28   19:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8) (Edited)

Note it all you want, I equate that with being called a racist by a Leftard...

What race were you discussing?

You just want to have certains topics to remain taboo for discussion no matter how you want to spin it.. Sorry, but those days are gone and you need to get over it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-28   20:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#9)

What race were you discussing?

You just want to have certains topics to remain taboo for discussion no matter how you want to spin it.. Sorry, but those days are gone and you need to get over it.

Whichever race you want, pick one for it doesn't really matter..

You can discuss whatever you subject you want I could care less, but.... is the subject even real or relevant to start with???

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-11-29   16:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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