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Title: Voter Turnout Plunges Throughout the Western World Â… Largely Due to Political Corruption
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012 ... oted-than-in-2004-or-2008.html
Published: Nov 9, 2012
Author: WashingtonsBlog
Post Date: 2012-11-09 13:48:07 by Capitalist Eric
Keywords: None
Views: 3637
Comments: 9

AP notes:

Preliminary figures suggest fewer people voted this year than four years ago, when voters shattered turnout records as they elected Obama to his first term.

In most states, the numbers were even lower than in 2004, said Curtis Gans, director of American University’s Center for the Study of the American Electorate. Every state but Iowa is showing a smaller turnout than in 2008, Gans said. Still, the full picture may not be known for weeks because much of the counting takes place after Election Day.

“This was a major plunge in turnout nationally,” said Gans, who estimated about 126 million Americans voted, for an overall turnout rate of about 57.5 percent.

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“Beyond the people with passion, we have a disengaged electorate,” Gans said.

USA Today noted in August:

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They cite a range of reasons for declaring they won’t vote or saying the odds are no better than 50-50 that they will: They’re too busy. They aren’t excited about either candidate. Their vote doesn’t really matter. And nothing ever gets done, anyway.

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This year, perhaps 90 million Americans who could vote won’t. “The long-term trend tends to be awful,” Gans says. “There’s a lot of lack of trust in our leaders, a lack of positive feelings about political institutions, a lack of quality education for large segments of the public, a lack of civic education, the fragmenting effects of waves of communications technology, the cynicism of the coverage of politics — I could go on with a long litany.”

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Many of these unlikely voters are suspicious of and disconnected from politics. In the survey, six in 10 say they don’t pay attention to politics because “nothing ever gets done”; 54% call politics “corrupt.”

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David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center, which took the survey [said] “You’ve got this overriding sense of bitterness and people who have been beaten down by the economy and the negativity and the lack of trust….

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What could convince them to vote?

About one in 10 say they could be drawn by different candidates, by being convinced someone could fix the nation’s problems, and by feeling better informed.

Given that both the mainstream GOP and Democratic parties ignore the voters’ wishes on the core issues – and even ignore their own “base” – this is not entirely surprising. You don’t need a PhD in political science or economics to know that both parties are ignoring your wishes regarding war, jobs, freedoms and giving the little guy a fair shake.

In fact, voter turnout has plummeted in Western countries over the last 5 decades:

Turnout Voter Turnout Plunges Throughout the Western World ... Largely Due to Political Corruption

Change in voter turnout over time for five selected countries

Including Canada:

histor4 Voter Turnout Plunges Throughout the Western World ... Largely Due to Political Corruption

Why? There are many factors. One is .

As Wikipedia notes:

During this same period, other forms of political participation have also declined, such as voluntary participation in political parties and the attendance of observers at town meetings.

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At the same time, some forms of participation have increased. People have become far more likely to participate in boycotts, demonstrations, and to donate to political campaigns.

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Trust in government and in politicians has decreased in many nations.

In other words, corruption has become epidemic, and so people are tuning out.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AT754LLIZ7FNNK34CFOAAP7OSY trigon400

    Notice how they still refuse to mention the Ron Paul factor…
    Writers of post election analysis articles try to ignore Paul as much as the RNC did (The RNC commited vote fraud on top of that).
    Sorry Republicans, the Ron Paul faction isn’t going anywhere, nor are you if you refuse to submit a true liberty loving conservative.
    We will stay home in 2016 if you ignore us again.

    • amerikagulag

      The only way to overcome this political sham is to have hand counted, verifiable ballots. But I think the no-show factor speaks loudly. To me it says, “a couple more like these and we won’t bother voting at all, we’ll just oust you physically.” Ohhhh, if only!

      • Strider73

        Paper ballots are no guarantee. The Daley & LBJ gangs teamed up to steal the 1960 election with paper ballots. Heck, Tammany Hall was stuffing ballot boxes in NYC during the War of Yankee Aggression.

    • Micaiah

      The entire corruption thing is the Ron Paul factor. They just don’t mention his name. It’s to scary.

  • Hegel

    Conclusion is an overstatement of the evidence cited. Many factors other than corruption are mentioned and none of the allegations of corruption are based on anything except some vague expressions of opinion by unknown parties who may or may not know what is going on. Whoever wrote this needs to be more rigorous.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.gribble.77 Mary Gribble

      Rothchild (changed his name to Rothchild) and Rockefeller own both parties. Each candidate supports the same masters. No choice. Hope this is a more rigorous summary. Ron Paul wanted to bring this country to the ideals of the Constitution, therefore was shat upon.

    • RJ OGuillory

      from a journalistic perspective…”allegations of corruption are based on anything except some vague expressions of opinion by unknown parties who may or may not know what is going on”…this is not a bad observation…but if you mean to imply there is not enough “evidence of corruption”…then you have not a clue….hell…just start with the torture memos…or 911 and the free-falling buildings…I mean, really…if you mean there is no evidence…get a clue or work at being a better troll..

      Regards,

      RJ O’Guillory
      Author-
      Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

      • Hegel

        The article is the subject of my comment, not ideas or facts that readers may or may not possess. If the author wishes to convince, rather than preach to a crowd that already has a preconceived view, it would be best to do some work and show what corruption really is, how it works and how it has really affected voter turnout. The flaw in the argument presented is that it shows a minor decline in overall voter turnout, mentions some comments about corruption, but does not demonstrate whether there is any rational connection, never mind a cause and effect relationship. Existence of corruption (which is not defined, and therefore will be whatever a reader wishes) is not by itself evidence that it influences voters and leads to a decline in participation rates. Arguing that I do not have a clue because I do not cite what you might think is corruption is not a valid response to my complaint that the article lacks any such evidence and draws a conclusion without showing any connection. Example of bad reasoning: “All animals that fly have wings. An ostrich has wings. An ostrich must be able to fly”. Note: ostriches can’t fly but they do have wings. Animals may need wings to fly, but having wings is not a guarantee that an animal can fly.

    • royals85

      Very cute Hegel. The evidence is in the opinions of those polled. Unless you are segregated from industrial society, then all have had contact with these institutions and their experiences form their opinions without all the minutae, which is only used to confuse the big picture.
      Example: guy/gal loses job – gets new job – wants to tag their car for $27.25 – has to go to one State agency for this – told to Assess vehicle at another State agency in another location – gets paper from this dept. told to pay at another dept. – goes to 3rd place told $242.45 can’t pay this – gets ticket for expired tag from, well another State agency for $100.00 – has to go to another State agency to pay ticket – then back through the whole process again because too much time has passed and can’t use the old paperwork – now it is, with gas and late fees = $437.35 + 10 visits to St. agencies + $15 gas + at least 4 hours of time = very frustrated!
      Wal-Mart would get all this accomplished for $29.99, in one location, in less than 20 minutes.

      • royals85

        Forgot to include this: The $437.35 is roughly $3.22 more than guy/gal was paid over a 2 wk. period. Now, guy/gal finally realizes that he/she worked for 2 wks. to have it all taken away in 5 minutes so that 10 bureaucrats can have a job, run them through a maze like someone does a mouse and sneer/laugh at them when they become angry. As Mel Brooks used to say…”its good to be the king”

  • Deck chairs on the Titantic

    Yah, it’s no longer “It’s the economy, stupid.” It’s the corruption. All the deals made in Washington, the legalized bribery, eventually overwhelmed the foundation of government, which derives its legitimacy from the people, with their informed consent. The courts are corrupt. The press corpse is corrupt. The legislators are corrupt. The presidency is corrupt. The regulators are corrupt. The entire system revolves around putting in a few million in “donations” to extract billions from the people, without their consent, but they do not have the money to influence the corrupt bastards selling them out.

    Television is corrupt. The coverage of this joke of an election was pathetically skewed towards disenfranchising citizens further. They go on and on about the Hispanic vote, a number swelled by not enforcing borders, aka protecting the rights of people of all colors already here. So according to teevee, both parties have no choice but to cater to immigrants, but they can ignore the 90 million citizens – of all races – here who are too beat down to even bother to fill out a ballot. No irony that all the talk of “we’re a land of immigrants” involves ignoring the native born?

    I’m beginning to think I’d cheer to see tanks roll down Pennsylvania Ave. At least then we’d only have a 98% chance of being screwed instead of 100%.

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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)

Red SHIFT.

UnCOUNTED Votes thrown out are 70-80% Dems.

vote swing « Richard Charnin's Blog richardcharnin.wordpress.com/tag/vote-swing/Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Nov 2, 2011 – Posts about vote swing written by Richard Charnin. ... After the 2004 election, exit poll naysayers claimed that the near-zero correlation between ... There were nearly six million uncounted votes in 2000 and four million in 2004. .... -Dukakis won the unadjusted exit polls in battleground states by 51-47%.

mathematical proof of election fraud « Richard Charnin's Blog richardcharnin.wordpress....-of-election-fra...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Feb 7, 2012 – Assuming 98% turnout, 47 million returned in 2004. ... And since the Final was forced to match the recorded vote, what does that tell us about ... But with a clear majority of 6 million uncounted votes, Gore must have done much ...

Richard Charnin richardcharnin.com/Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo It is a documented fact that millions of votes are uncounted in every election. ... Bureau indicates that since 1968, approximately 80 million more votes were cast ... Dukakis won the unadjusted exit polls in 24 battleground states by 51-47% and ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   13:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

The GOPers stole as much as usual.

They were just overwhelmed....;}

Which was then MAIN reason Rove broke down Tuesday.

The Fix was in but wasn't working.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-10   13:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Red SHIFT.

UnCOUNTED Votes thrown out are 70-80% Dems.

As usual, your opinions are the exact opposite of reality.

Were your opinion true, than the vote count would be moving back towards mcRomneystain, as mailed ballots are counted. Instead, they are moving further away from mcRomneystain.

I suggest you stick to your "financial" writing of the ECB, Germany's Bundesbank scandals and similar things in your area of the world... and leave American politics to those who actually understand the subject to some degree...

Because you look like a complete IDIOT at this point.

Am I in any way unclear?

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-10   16:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)

Am I in any way unclear?

You pull all the above out of your ass, show it to the world,

Totally ignoring Unadjusted Exit Polls and how many votesare Thrown Out before the Total is rung up and you ask

Am I in any way unclear?

You bet your stinky sweet ass you are clueless or Paid not to understand.

And you can tell me which you think is worse.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   10:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

The Late Recorded Votes: A confirmation of the True Vote?

Richard Charnin Nov. 11, 2012

In the 2000, 2004, and 2008 elections, late votes recorded after Election Day showed a dramatic increase in Democratic vote shares. The late votes closely matched the state and national exit polls and the True Vote Model. The anomaly is also apparently occurring in 2012.

2000: 102.6 million votes recorded on Election Day. Gore led 48.3-48.1%. Gore had 55.6% of the 2.7 million late votes.

2004: 116.7 million votes recorded on Election Day. Bush led 51.6-48.3%. Kerry had 54.2% of the 4.8 million late 2-party votes.

2008: 121 million votes recorded on Election Day. Obama led 52.3-46.3%. Obama won the 10.2 million late votes by 59.2-37.5%.

Dave Leip’s US Election Atlas provides updated state votes which are included in the 2012 Forecasting model.

I calculate the incremental changes in the total vote count as well as for each state on a daily basis and will provide daily updates in this post until the final votes are in.

Obama led: Nov.8 50.34-48.07% of 117.45 million recorded votes Nov.9 50.43-47.97% of 119.58 Nov.10 50.51-47.87% of 122.20 Nov.11 50.52-47.86% of 122.43

Obama leads the 4.98 million late votes by 54.84-42.79%. The True Vote Model indicated that he had a 55.2% True Vote. A coincidence?

http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   10:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)

O and BTW, Fuck you very much.

As I wait on Anything from you that's sourced....;}

On Red Shifting and the Unadjusted Exit polls.

Like why don't us mere mortals get to see those since 2000?

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   10:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

Obama leads the 4.98 million late votes by 54.84-42.79%. The True Vote Model indicated that he had a 55.2% True Vote. A coincidence?

The late votes can be viewed as a proxy for the unadjusted exit polls – a very big exit poll with millions of respondents who told the pollster exactly how they voted.

Of course, we won’t see the unadjusted exit polls until years later. And 19 states were not even exit polled this time. All we have is the National Exit Poll which is always forced to match the recorded vote. It shows that Obama was a 50-48% winner.

But all the demographic crosstabs were forced to conform to the recorded vote. I included them in the 2012 Presidential True Vote /Election Fraud Forecast Model in which I calculated total vote shares.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-11   10:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#4) (Edited)

You pull all the above out of your ass, show it to the world,

Totally ignoring Unadjusted Exit Polls and how many votesare Thrown Out before the Total is rung up and you ask

Am I in any way unclear?

Unfortunately, you fail to perform the most basic of checks, before you start posting your latest drivel; content validity.

In other words, if it fails the sniff-test, than you're finished before you've begun.

In your case, it would appear you've no sense of smell, and so you constantly post bullshit that is completely, obviously wrong... SO wrong, that it's difficult to imagine how you could NOT see it...

But you're blind and stupid.

You bet your stinky sweet ass you are clueless or Paid not to understand.

Another statement based on utterly nothing. How suprising (not). Unfortunately for you, I'm not only clued-in on what's going on... I'm also NOT on anybody's pay-roll.

I find it amusing that you would make such an accusation... It is you who wants to get paid for writing... shit. It's you who wants to be paid for whoring yourself out to the elitists.

I don't have any aspirations to be a paid pom-pom girl for whoever cuts the biggest check, but you do...

You're not nearly as clever as you think, Adolf...

O and BTW, Fuck you very much.

Right back atcha', little Adolf. ;)

As I wait on Anything from you that's sourced....;}

One need not "source" a breath of fresh air... Instead, I'd invite you to kindly kiss my ass, you nazi dwarf.

The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.

Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8%
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.

The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.

"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-12   23:09:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)

Not ONE FCUKING SOURCE ON your drivel above.

You got nothin'.

But Here's somethin'.....;}

And Thanx Nolu!!!!

There it is:

US Dept of Defense IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 889-12 November 12, 2012

The President has nominated General Joseph Dunford, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps, to succeed General Allen at ISAF.

#7. To: nolu chan (#0) So how is Allen able to keep his job but Petraeus loses his?

Disgraced Petraeus too busy with affair fallout to give evidence in Benghazi inquiry Republicans demand General attends inquiry on Benghazi killings as he handles affair fallout

www.independent.co.uk/new...hazi-inquiry-8307345.html

Now we know. Gen Allen added to list:

Petraeus

Darlak

Ham

Sinclair

Gaoette

Note UK paper of record keeping USSA citizens informed....;}

Petraeus Counter Coup underway. War of Terror/War for the Jews over.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-13   8:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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