Title: Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases) Source:
CNBC URL Source:http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550 Published:Nov 7, 2012 Author:Reuters Post Date:2012-11-07 17:54:49 by Hondo68 Ping List:*The Two Parties ARE the Same*Subscribe to *The Two Parties ARE the Same* Keywords:want you to lead, a balanced approach, will include higher taxes Views:97941 Comments:133
House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.
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Speaker of the House John Boehner
"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."
Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.
"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. (Read more: Obama Re-elected as Crucial Ohio Goes His Way.)
The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.
The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.
Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.
His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.
"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.
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He's ready to be lead to Obama's lame duck a$$, so he can kiss it.
He just couldn't wait to kiss the ring of the king, could he.
What a worthless POS.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Damn! I figured you weren't going to talk to me again after I told the truth about your favorite socialist, Andy Griffith.
Hold on, while I figure out how to be an even bigger asshole.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
I have no desire for nor inclination towards any exchange with an idiot.
Ya feel me?
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases)
It won't be that bad....
America is still the Vaunted Global Military power. So there will certainly be many more wars....lots of parades. Who knows...maybe they finally do another great movie like the San Pebbles or Saving Private Ryan.
Buck up America....its not even anywhere's scarry like 1/3 rd of the Earth burned with fire...1/3 of the water poisoned....and the Beast image in Jerusalem. Hey...it will be at least 10 years before things get that bad : )
America is still the Vaunted Global Military power. So there will certainly be many more wars....lots of parades.
Yeah,but you know what? One day the money won't be there for us to fight to protect Saudi Arabia in the Muddle East,and all those soldiers will be coming back home and looking for jobs that just aren't there.
Won't life be just grand when that happens?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
us to fight to protect Saudi Arabia in the Muddle East
LOL!!!
We all know who we are 'protecting' in the ME and it sure as the hell isn't SA.
I.E.: Israel To U.S.: Don't Delay Iraq Attack
Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq's Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.
Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.
"Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose," Gissin said. "It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction."
We all know who we are 'protecting' in the ME and it sure as the hell isn't SA.
Yes,it IS Saudi Arabia.
Your hatred for Jews is blinding you to reality. The Jews are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves against their Muslim neighbors. It's SA that needs the protection of the US military.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
The election is over,so they can now go back to business as usual.
That is unfortunate. If more people didn't sit on the sidelines we could have had some unusual business. But the sex perverts, moochers, baby killers, and stupid people voted for Obama. Then there are the simpletons like you that sat on the sidelines. You got what you wanted Peter. So shut up and don't complain.
Then there are the simpletons like you that sat on the sidelines.
Yeah,it is MY fault your asshole buddy RINO's picked a fucking communist as a candidate that MAY be to the left of Obama. Since Obummer already had the Dim vote locked up,that left it to "conservatives" like you to vote Mass Mitt into office,and there just aren't that many stupid conservatives.
Good thinking,Stone! Who are you going to vote for next time,Hillary Clinton or JEB Bush?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Ok simpleton. Do you know what a communist is? What about Romney is communist? To the left of Obama. Do you smoke crack?
Pete is exactly correct...here are the 10 planks to the Communist Manafesto...and Romney wants a very 30k drones in the air to enforce his plans of enslaving the limited government folks.
Read the 10 Planks of The Communist Manifesto to discover the truth and learn how to know your enemy...
Karl Marx describes in his communist manifesto, the ten steps necessary to destroy a free enterprise system and replace it with a system of omnipotent government power, so as to effect a communist socialist state. Those ten steps are known as the Ten Planks of The Communist Manifesto The following brief presents the original ten planks within the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart for each of the planks. From comparison it's clear MOST Americans have by myths, fraud and deception under the color of law by their own politicians in both the Republican and Democratic and parties, been transformed into Communists.
Another thing to remember, Karl Marx in creating the Communist Manifesto designed these planks AS A TEST to determine whether a society has become communist or not. If they are all in effect and in force, then the people ARE practicing communists.
Communism, by any other name is still communism, and is VERY VERY destructive to the individual and to the society!!
The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...
1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned" This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.
He's also a open borders asshole,and a member of a Christian religious cult. Christianity is a socialist/communist movement.
He ran the most closed border campaign since Pat Buchanan. In fact Pats Sister worked on his campaign.
Mormons aren't christian simpleton.
Christianity isn't communist simpleton.
You aren't a real American. You just don't get what it is to be an American. You're entitled to your views but your views would never be considered the solution to thinking people with morals. Pete your basically amoral and kind of senile based on what you have been posting today. You getting enough sun?
The bastard state, 'you people' call israel, had their collective asses handed to them during the 2006 IsraelHezbollah War.
Actually their home made rocktes did little damage and Israle leveled them. That is the truth.
You don't really have a problem with Israel. You have a problem with God. You have some kind of sin in your life that you want to keep. So you lash out like a mad dog. Speaking of a mad dog. I haven't seen him in a while.
He ran the most closed border campaign since Pat Buchanan.
Is that some sort of trick statement? Every candidate since Buchanan ran on amnesty,and in fact he was the only one that wasn't for amnesty when he ran.
Christianity isn't communist simpleton.
Yes,it is,retard. In fact,it is the mother and father of communism. Try reading the Bible sometime and thinking about what you are reading.
You aren't a real American.
I'm more of an American than you have ever been. Not only did I volunteer to serve in a combat role in the military during a time of war,but so has every generation of my family going back to the Revolutionary War. There is even a road sign plaque not far from me with an ancestors name on it memorializing him as a Colonel in the Colonial Militia.
AND....,on my mother's side of the family they were here when the first Englishmen arrived,and fought with them to the point where the English bribed them to move away.
And you? What have you or anyone in your family ever done other than kiss kiss fake Republican/real Dim ass?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Secondly simpleton was Julius Caesar a communist. He too wanted to control the globe.
You really are a freaking idiot.
Moron. I used that as an example of your flawed little simple mind. You said Romney was a communist because he wanted to control the globe. Those were your words. So again Julius Caesar must have been a communist because he wanted to control the globe. You're getting old.
I'm more of an American than you have ever been. Not only did I volunteer to serve in a combat role in the military during a time of war,but so has every generation of my family going back to the Revolutionary War.
The ones who Fourth in the revolutionary war would be ashaemed to call you a descendant based on what you say about the first amendment and other parts of the constitution they fought for. Just saying.
It's like trying to explain to these people that the earth IS NOT flat...but, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they simply refuse to believe it
No it is more like this. Let me make the point that you are an idiot like you made the point that Romney is a communist. I'm not saying you are an idiot. I am just using your debate style. Here goes.
You're an idiot.
id·i·ot (d-t) n. 1. A foolish or stupid person. 2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.
It is more like this. I analyzed Romney and Obama. They are different and will do different things. My analysis lead me to two conclusions to keep it short.
1. Either Romney or Obama would be President.
2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.
Stone...I assure you I'm not an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in that manifest that Romney doesn't embrace. I pray God shows you that your fixation on killing innocent people in the middle east, your approval of liars and pagans and your worship of the state, are an anathema to him. Cut the TV off and pray for discernment...you need it my friend.
You aren't a real American. You just don't get what it is to be an American. You're entitled to your views but your views would never be considered the solution to thinking people with morals. Pete your basically amoral and kind of senile based on what you have been posting today. You getting enough sun?
The hypocrisy of this statement is... stunning.
YOU, stone, pushed mcRomney, because you have no moral core, and merely wanted to "win" at whatever cost. You attacked those who were unwilling to set aside their morals, because such actions remind you that it is YOU who are immoral and unethical.
Like every holy-roller religious zealot, your views are conveniently focused outward, because any self-reflection would reveal that there's nothing in the mirror....
The stench of your hypocrisy permeates every post you make regarding morals, ethics or being "a real American." Being such a spineless little shit, you can only dream about such things as courage, morals and honor... because they're merely abstractions to you, not something you've ever possessed.
Feh.
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
Stone...I assure you I'm not an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in that manifest that Romney doesn't embrace. I pray God shows you that your fixation on killing innocent people in the middle east, your approval of liars and pagans and your worship of the state, are an anathema to him. Cut the TV off and pray for discernment...you need it my friend.
I am not saying you are an idiot. I was just using that as an example.
If you want to call Romney a communist. Document it please. I don't consider hima communist. Is he perfect...no. Was he my first choice....no. But I think he had skills that could have helped us. I think he could have helped us get the budget going in the right direction. I think he is an honorable man. I think he was actually the best Republican nominee since Reagan. I know the others sucked real bad.
Honorable men DO NOT lie and true Americans believe in a very limited Frederal government that adheres to the Constitution...Romney was neither of these
It is more like this. I analyzed Romney and Obama. They are different and will do different things. My analysis lead me to two conclusions to keep it short.
Uh-HUH. Please list all of the underlying assumptions of your so- called "analysis."
Please provide all empirical sources of data, and the exact methodology of this "analysis."
Please provide the hypotheses that you were operating from, as well as the null hypotheses.
And THEN please provide the empirical comparison, results, biases and correlations of this "analysis."
1. Either Romney or Obama would be President.
WOW. No, let me restate that in proper terms: WOW.
Nothing- and I mean nothing- gets by you, does it???
THIS is the conclusion of your analysis- that one of the two corrupt sock- puppets would be elected?
Such dazzling intellect must be rewarded! I recommend you work on a Doctoral degree... from the University of Phoenix (or some other diploma-mill)!
2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.
Given your inability to detect moral and ethical lapses (due, I suspect, to the fact that YOU have no morals or ethics), your judgement of what's "right" is highly suspect.
And the fact that mcRomneystain is on every side of every issue, means he has zero credibility with pretty much everybody, even the majority of dimwitted sheeple... (which means you're actually below most of those sheeple.)
Bottom line: the only thing your "analysis" showed, is the inside of your ass.
No worries, stone... here's a self-help book, just for you:
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
The ones who Fourth in the revolutionary war would be ashaemed to call you a descendant based on what you say about the first amendment and other parts of the constitution they fought for. Just saying.
WHAT do I say about the First Amendment,you brain-damaged cretin?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
his lies on abortion, gun rights, small government. He would have put his hand the bible and sworn to uphold the Constitution...when in reality, everything he has done shows his disdain for freedom...
The people who don't vote against Obama give him their consent.
The implication is that there was an alternative to o'Bungler.
And there was. I took advantage of that option... by writing in "Ron Paul."
If you are implying that mcRomneystain was an alternative to o'Bungler, than please provide the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to back up such claims.
Oh, don't worry, stone... I'm not really gonna' hold your feet to the fire, waiting for you to actually PROVIDE such evidence... and that's mainly because such evidence doesn't exist.
Obama won like you wanted. Now live with it toad.
There were advantages and disadvantages- from a long-term perspective- for either sock-puppet. Overall, though, what I wanted was precluded from happening, because useless fucking cowards like you allow the Kabuki theater to continue.
How heavy are the chains you wear, slave???
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.
How do you know WHAT he believes? Does he still believe the things he believed when the conservatives of the conservative state of Massachusetts voted for him to be their governor?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
I have long believed and promoted the idea that their should be a "None of the Above" check box on each ballot,and anytime "none of the above" got the most votes the parties that ran the other candidates had to dig into their own pockets and pay for another election to pick a candidate.
I can practically guarantee you that we would get better candidates with a policy like that in place.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
The ten short term demands of the Communist Manifesto:
1.Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. 2.A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. 3.Abolition of all right of inheritance. 4.Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. 5.Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. 6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. 7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. 8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. 9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country. 10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.
his lies on abortion, gun rights, small government. He would have put his hand the bible and sworn to uphold the Constitution...when in reality, everything he has done shows his disdain for freedom...
He said he changed his mind on abortion. That troubled me. Maybe he was lying. I can't prove it. So I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Since he would have no affect on it anyway.
On guns. I disagree with the assault weapons ban. I think it to be unconsittutionaly. I don't agree but I can see how reasonalbe good people might want to put some restrictions on guns because they honestly think that it would be in societies best interest. Romney would have been a first term President. The Republicans were not going to pass any gun control legislation. Furthermore at worse he is a tie with Obama. Now Obama is re elected and going to the UN to push gun control.
He wasn't perfect. He was better than Obama no doubt....NONE!
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
I must have missed this one. Maybe you can provide me with a link. Please.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.
I guess it could be said he is for this one.
Are you against free education for our kids? Pretend the schools are good.
I'm not for factory labor. Unless it is a kid working for his folks.
I'm sure idiots like stone would complain that we MUST choose between the best of the shit-bags, because they're still ELECTABLE...
No you can do what you want. You think Obama is to the right of Romney. So you are happy. At least Obama is anti Jew. That is what really matters to you.
I am not claiming he did. The subject of Communism came up and I posted the 10 planks of Marx's manifesto. How about free, compulsory, government controlled education?
Ok thanks for supplying the list and some common sense. The common sense being you never said he was a communist.
Free public education is addressed in post 84.
I sent my kids to private school until last year when it got to expensive.
Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.
The ironic part, is that the pacification of sheeple like stone is so effective, that even after "his" candidate was beaten like a God-damned drum, he continues to insist that mcRomneystain was an electable alternative...
Talk about delusional...
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.
Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...
You're making up shit about other people, that should be easy to substantiate (IF they were true), and then look like a complete loon because they're not.
You then act as though you're the ONLY honest person on the forum, when it's obvious that you're the biggest liar here... And yet you have the balls to claim you're a "Christian," and honest, and all that...
If your purpose is to drive everyone off your forum, so they don't have to tolerate your blatant hypocrisy, you're doing a damn fine job of it...
Whatever.
I don't know what your game is, but it's clear that you've lost your moral compass, and any semblance of credibility with regard to much of anything.
Whatever.
I was impressed with your "Galt" article this morning... thought, 'hey, that's COOL, I like it.' But tonight, your emotions have taken over, and your behavior is borderline 'hysterical.'
In real life, I'm not known as one to sugar-coat the truth, because I've neither the time nor patience for emotional sugar-coating of facts... And I'm used to dealing with the consequences of this approach. So if telling you the truth is what gets me booted from here, than I fine with that. At the end of the day, you'll be rimjob-jr., echo-chamber and all. Pfft.
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
You are being dishonest or your memory isn't that good.
Seriously, you've gone off the deep end, much as goldi, the Israel-firster fat- bitch, has...
You're making up shit about other people, that should be easy to substantiate (IF they were true), and then look like a complete loon because they're not.
You then act as though you're the ONLY honest person on the forum, when it's obvious that you're the biggest liar here... And yet you have the balls to claim you're a "Christian," and honest, and all that...
Again you don't know what you are talking about.
It is well documented that I am not for Bush and voted against him in 2004 just like Brian S.
My moral compass is just fine. For the most part anyway.
I was impressed with your "Galt" article this morning... thought, 'hey, that's COOL,
Thank You.
You misunderstand me. I like things to be accurate. You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist. I voted for Romney because he offered my kids a better future with less debt then Obama. You can whine like a broken record that they are the same all you want. But it isn't true. I like accuracy. They may be similar on some things but certainly not all things. Great differences on lots of things. You know that and I know that. So it is you who is lying when you say they are the same. If you want to be honest you should say they are to much alike or something like that.
I saw this site Willard had drawn up in a hubris filled notion he could not lose.
The Republicans have a problem in that in terms of popular vote, they have lost five of the last six elections.
Until they learn to offer a real choice that is meaningful and serves the public interest, they are doomed to continue to be a marginalized entity.
The only thing I appreciate about this is it helps show what a joke the popular election of a true leader of the people is in this country. Those in the 'club' run things, and not the simulated leader in the fishbowl called the oval office.
Romney is out of touch and delusional, Obama is strange and an egomaniac.
And neither is meant to be true leaders in any sense of pulling the real strings of power.
On your first point I looked back up and it was sneakypete that said that. So that doesn't make me a liar but mistaken. But you have said that it would be better of Obama is re elected. Your reason if I am remember correctly was that Romney would have a friendly congress to get things done with.
Your other times calling me a liar are also inaccurate. So watch your mouth. I'm tolerant but not forever.
Well theoretically it would be best if everyone paid for their own kids education. I did that for years and years and also got taxed for other kids schools.
Society has said that it is in its interest to have kids educated. So in the system we have where there is public education. It is my opinion that it would be better if each student was allotted a sum of money and allowed to choose any school they wanted. The Public one or any private ones available.
You guys called Romney a communist. He isn't. That is ludicrous. He is a very successful Capitalist.
LOL. What complete shit.
He's a CORPORATIST. Lenin, Hitler or Mussolini... yeah, there were minor differences between them... They were communist, socialist or fascist, respectively.
I like accuracy. They may be similar on some things but certainly not all things.
Yeah, they were.... like.... black and white, on certain aspects....
Oh, WAIT....
LMAO.
So it is you who is lying when you say they are the same. If you want to be honest you should say they are to much alike or something like that.
Hmmm... if you like accuracy as much as you say, than you should be able to find at least one post I made, where I said they were exactly the same on every issue...
Can you DO it??? NO.
Because I have constantly said they were the same in every way that matters.
I, TOO, believe in accuracy.
And I believe that I've caught you in yet another lie...
Not that that's much of a challenge these days, mind you....
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The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
Ok you need to quit talking to me that way. On your first point I looked back up and it was sneakypete that said that. So that doesn't make me a liar but mistaken.
For someone who claims such devotion to accuracy, you've been "mistaken" a great many times about me, and for a very long time... You use every sleazy trick in the book, all while pretending to be "Christian," and a believer of truth.
But you have said that it would be better of Obama is re elected.
ANOTHER MISTAKE. I have made the point many times, that it could easily be argued that it would be better if o'Bungler were elected, because the collapse would be shorter and less drawn-out than it would be under mcRomneystain... and that there is historical basis for that viewpoint, especially when you study Cicero's writings.
That is NOT the same thing as saying I supported o'Bungler, and I defy you to find a SINGLE POST where I've said that. AGAIN, you are "mistaken."
Your reason if I am remember correctly was that Romney would have a friendly congress to get things done with.
ANOTHER MISTAKE.
Your other times calling me a liar are also inaccurate.
ANOTHER MISTAKE.
So watch your mouth. I'm tolerant but not forever.
Or what? You gonna' call ME a child-molester? Rapist? Thief? Murderer?
You dare to tell me how "tolerant" you are, when it is YOU who've been lying your ass off "mistaken" for months???
Here's something for you to chew on, stone... I don't really have the time to lie, push any particular agenda (beyond restoring TRUE liberty to this country), and pimping for any group.
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
YOU responded with: I said no I support Rand Paul.
You asked if I am moving to Kentucky.
Yes,I did. Rand Paul holds office in Kentucky,and will almost certainly be running for re-election for that office. He has not made the slightest hint that he will be running for President instead.
Case closed you lose.
Yes,the case IS closed,but *I* am not the loser.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Both men do not offer anything more than a false choice given to the voters to pacify them.
When it comes to policy,they are the same guys. One is darker and one is more competent and would probably do a better job at destroying what is left of our country.
It was never anything more than a shell game played to keep the yodels distracted,though.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
the pacification of sheeple like stone is so effective, that even after "his" candidate was beaten like a God-damned drum, he continues to insist that mcRomneystain was an electable alternative...
If you want to inspire voters to vote for an opponent to a sitting president that you and they don't like,you HAVE to offer then an alternative candidate with different policy viewpoints and goals.
Offering them a pasty-white globalist as an option to the off-white globalist currently holding the office is NOT offering an alternative. Just more of the same wrapped in a different package.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
I support the dismantling the welfare/warfare system.
I support the dismantling of the American police-state.
I support REAL freedom in America- the freedom to do whatever you want, provided you don't interfere with the rights of others to do what they want.
I support a REAL free market, where prices and production are established via mutual agreement of producers and customers, without interference from the government via insane regulations, taxation or subsidization, in the hope to force market behavior to match what government shit-head bureaucrats think is "best" for the country...
IN ALL OF THESE THINGS, I AM A FIRM BELIEVER. NEITHER O'BUNGLER NOR MCROMNEYSTAIN WILL TOUCH ANY OF THESE ISSUES, SO I SUPPORT NEITHER OF THEM.
If you are too much of brain-dead zombie to get that, then just tell me so, so I can bozo your sorry, incredibly stupid ass, and have done with it.
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters.
Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4% NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
" I support the dismantling the welfare/warfare system.
I support the dismantling of the American police-state.
I support REAL freedom in America- the freedom to do whatever you want, provided you don't interfere with the rights of others to do what they want.
I support a REAL free market, where prices and production are established via mutual agreement of producers and customers, without interference from the government via insane regulations, taxation or subsidization, in the hope to force market behavior to match what government shit-head bureaucrats think is "best" for the country..."
Stone will never agree with you; you are making too much sense here.
He's still whining as he cries over the lose of his Mitt. In fact he'll probably milk this particuar hair shirt for a long time to come.
"Bummer of a tattoo..." kept replaying in Mr. Stone's usually quite empty mind after his morning shave reminded him once more what an impulsive ninny he is..