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Title: Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff' (tax increases)
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URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550
Published: Nov 7, 2012
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2012-11-07 17:54:49 by Hondo68
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Keywords: want you to lead, a balanced approach, will include higher taxes
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House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order. "Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead." Poster Comment: He's ready to be lead to Obama's lame duck a$$, so he can kiss it.
Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.
"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term. (Read more: Obama Re-elected as Crucial Ohio Goes His Way.)
The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.
The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.
"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said. (Read more: Alarm on Wall Street Grows as 'Fiscal Cliff' Nears.)
Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.
His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics. Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.
"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.
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#18. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#17)
Pete is exactly correct...here are the 10 planks to the Communist Manafesto...and Romney wants a very 30k drones in the air to enforce his plans of enslaving the limited government folks. Read the 10 Planks of The Communist Manifesto to discover the truth and learn how to know your enemy... Karl Marx describes in his communist manifesto, the ten steps necessary to destroy a free enterprise system and replace it with a system of omnipotent government power, so as to effect a communist socialist state. Those ten steps are known as the Ten Planks of The Communist Manifesto… The following brief presents the original ten planks within the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart for each of the planks. From comparison it's clear MOST Americans have by myths, fraud and deception under the color of law by their own politicians in both the Republican and Democratic and parties, been transformed into Communists. Another thing to remember, Karl Marx in creating the Communist Manifesto designed these planks AS A TEST to determine whether a society has become communist or not. If they are all in effect and in force, then the people ARE practicing communists. Communism, by any other name is still communism, and is VERY VERY destructive to the individual and to the society!! The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are... 1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership) 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share". 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...). 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking. 6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations. 8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.
Quoting the planks and attributing them to Romney doesn't cut it.
why...does he somehow get a free pass on his communist leanings in your mind?
You're moving to Ky? And if you do move there,what makes you so sure the RNC is not going to run someone against him in the primaries to take his seat?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
He's a globalist,and controlling the globe was always the ultimate goal of communists,and in fact the ONLY way it would have worked. He's also a open borders asshole,and a member of a Christian religious cult. Christianity is a socialist/communist movement. To the left of Obama. Yes,to the left of Obummer. Obummer isn't a leftist. He only cares about himself and is too stupid to even visualize world domination.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Only because you know nothing about Rombama other than he is not Obama.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Party People NEVER let facts confuse them.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Oh sure...if they are 'fighting' from 30,000 feet. Sniveling cowards of today won't fight a ground war up against a well armed foe. The bastard state, 'you people' call israel, had their collective asses handed to them during the 2006 Israel–Hezbollah War.
It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'... A woman wears Obama campaign buttons, in both English and Hebrew The Israelites have chosen a nice Jewish boy to protect their nation, Barrouk Obama. Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
You haven't attributed anything he has done that lines up with anything in the communist manifesto. It would be like me quoting the night before Christmas and telling you that proves that Obama really is Santa Claus.
You're moving to Ky? And if you do move there,what makes you so sure the RNC is not going to run someone against him in the primaries to take his seat? You Ok Pete. Last I checked when someone runs for President they run in all the states and not just their home state. Also last I checked Rand Paul won in 2012. On my planet Senators get elected for 6 years. In my world 2010 + 6 years would be 2016. In the United States the President serves for 4 years. Since we just had an election in 2012 the next one is in 2012 + 4 years equals 2016. The same year Rand has to run for re election in the Senate. Hey did you know that even though the election is in 2016 they still serve until 2017. You are crazy if you think Rand Paul is going to lose his seat.
First off where do you see he wants to control the globe. Secondly simpleton was Julius Caesar a communist. He too wanted to control the globe.
He ran the most closed border campaign since Pat Buchanan. In fact Pats Sister worked on his campaign. Mormons aren't christian simpleton. Christianity isn't communist simpleton. You aren't a real American. You just don't get what it is to be an American. You're entitled to your views but your views would never be considered the solution to thinking people with morals. Pete your basically amoral and kind of senile based on what you have been posting today. You getting enough sun?
Who is that? Is that a super hero in a comic book you are writing or something?
You're not only senile and amoral but now you have proven yourself to be stupid.
Romney lost all of the demographic vote except the 'white vote' and even they didn't turn out like they did for McCain in 2008.
It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'... Party People NEVER let facts confuse them. Simpleton. He quoted the communist manifesto. If I quote it to you does that make you a communist? What facts are you talking about? There was nothing on the table simpleton.
Actually their home made rocktes did little damage and Israle leveled them. That is the truth. You don't really have a problem with Israel. You have a problem with God. You have some kind of sin in your life that you want to keep. So you lash out like a mad dog. Speaking of a mad dog. I haven't seen him in a while.
But Romney is not a murderer. Obama is. Romney is a better man then Obama. A superior human being to the boy in the White House.
That's true,but I had not heard a single whisper about him running in 2016. Have you? Also last I checked Rand Paul won in 2012. And here I was thinking Obummer had won this year! You are crazy if you think Rand Paul is going to lose his seat. Am I crazy if I think he has to give up his Senate seat to occupy the WH?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
That's what globalists do. Secondly simpleton was Julius Caesar a communist. He too wanted to control the globe. You really are a freaking idiot. Communists didn't exist when Caesar was alive. The closest thing to a communist was a Christian. Speaking in modern terms,Caesar was a fascist.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Is that some sort of trick statement? Every candidate since Buchanan ran on amnesty,and in fact he was the only one that wasn't for amnesty when he ran. Christianity isn't communist simpleton. Yes,it is,retard. In fact,it is the mother and father of communism. Try reading the Bible sometime and thinking about what you are reading. You aren't a real American. I'm more of an American than you have ever been. Not only did I volunteer to serve in a combat role in the military during a time of war,but so has every generation of my family going back to the Revolutionary War. There is even a road sign plaque not far from me with an ancestors name on it memorializing him as a Colonel in the Colonial Militia. AND....,on my mother's side of the family they were here when the first Englishmen arrived,and fought with them to the point where the English bribed them to move away. And you? What have you or anyone in your family ever done other than kiss kiss fake Republican/real Dim ass?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
OOOPS! Overlooked this one. Who told you that,your cult leader?
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
Who is that? He's the guy on the poster hanging on your bedroom wall.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
How "Christian" of you.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
If I quote it to you does that make you a communist? And you dare to call someone else a simpleton. BTW,"complex" isn't a word for a communist duplex. Just trying to help the handicapped.
A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."
That's what globalists do. You have to cite examples of what Romney said he would do or what he did to make the point. Here let me give you an example. Child molesters touch kids inappropriately. You're a child molester. You see now simpleton?
You really are a freaking idiot. Moron. I used that as an example of your flawed little simple mind. You said Romney was a communist because he wanted to control the globe. Those were your words. So again Julius Caesar must have been a communist because he wanted to control the globe. You're getting old.
The ones who Fourth in the revolutionary war would be ashaemed to call you a descendant based on what you say about the first amendment and other parts of the constitution they fought for. Just saying.
How "Christian" of you. Thank You. I am supposed to be honest. I said you were senile because you talked about me moving to Kentucky to vote for Rand Paul for President. I said you are amoral because you don't know right from wrong and you believe whole heartedly and defend doggedly queer pretend marriage. I said you were stupid because you said Romney was to the Left of Obama. That is a stupid statement.
It's like trying to explain to these people that the earth IS NOT flat...but, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they simply refuse to believe it
It's like trying to explain to these people that the earth IS NOT flat...but, in the face of overwhelming evidence, they simply refuse to believe it No it is more like this. Let me make the point that you are an idiot like you made the point that Romney is a communist. I'm not saying you are an idiot. I am just using your debate style. Here goes. You're an idiot. id·i·ot (d-t) n. 1. A foolish or stupid person. 2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.
Furthermore. It is more like this. I analyzed Romney and Obama. They are different and will do different things. My analysis lead me to two conclusions to keep it short. 1. Either Romney or Obama would be President. 2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.
Stone...I assure you I'm not an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in that manifest that Romney doesn't embrace. I pray God shows you that your fixation on killing innocent people in the middle east, your approval of liars and pagans and your worship of the state, are an anathema to him. Cut the TV off and pray for discernment...you need it my friend.
The hypocrisy of this statement is... stunning. YOU, stone, pushed mcRomney, because you have no moral core, and merely wanted to "win" at whatever cost. You attacked those who were unwilling to set aside their morals, because such actions remind you that it is YOU who are immoral and unethical. Like every holy-roller religious zealot, your views are conveniently focused outward, because any self-reflection would reveal that there's nothing in the mirror.... The stench of your hypocrisy permeates every post you make regarding morals, ethics or being "a real American." Being such a spineless little shit, you can only dream about such things as courage, morals and honor... because they're merely abstractions to you, not something you've ever possessed. Feh.
The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters. Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people. "I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
I am not saying you are an idiot. I was just using that as an example. If you want to call Romney a communist. Document it please. I don't consider hima communist. Is he perfect...no. Was he my first choice....no. But I think he had skills that could have helped us. I think he could have helped us get the budget going in the right direction. I think he is an honorable man. I think he was actually the best Republican nominee since Reagan. I know the others sucked real bad.
The people who don't vote against Obama give him their consent. Obama won like you wanted. Now live with it toad.
Honorable men DO NOT lie and true Americans believe in a very limited Frederal government that adheres to the Constitution...Romney was neither of these
What was it he lied to the American people about again?
Nothing compared to your 'hero', the war criminal, baby bush. How many babies and children did HE direct the killing of in the illegal invasion of Iraq. Hell already has a room set up for him and it is in the same block as Hilter, Stalin, et.al. You just can't be selective Stone. Murder is murder and jorge was the grand murdered of our time.
It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'... Uh-HUH. Please list all of the underlying assumptions of your so- called "analysis." Please provide all empirical sources of data, and the exact methodology of this "analysis." Please provide the hypotheses that you were operating from, as well as the null hypotheses. And THEN please provide the empirical comparison, results, biases and correlations of this "analysis." WOW. No, let me restate that in proper terms: WOW. Nothing- and I mean nothing- gets by you, does it??? THIS is the conclusion of your analysis- that one of the two corrupt sock- puppets would be elected? Such dazzling intellect must be rewarded! I recommend you work on a Doctoral degree... from the University of Phoenix (or some other diploma-mill)! Given your inability to detect moral and ethical lapses (due, I suspect, to the fact that YOU have no morals or ethics), your judgement of what's "right" is highly suspect. And the fact that mcRomneystain is on every side of every issue, means he has zero credibility with pretty much everybody, even the majority of dimwitted sheeple... (which means you're actually below most of those sheeple.) Bottom line: the only thing your "analysis" showed, is the inside of your ass. No worries, stone... here's a self-help book, just for you: The total # of registered voters (election 2012) was ~197 million voters. Barack Obama: 60,652,238 = 30.8% The U.S. government no longer has the consent of the people. "I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestOk simpleton. Do you know what a communist is? What about Romney is communist? To the left of Obama. Do you smoke crack?
#19. To: freedomsnotfree (#18)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)
#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)
Rand Paul
#22. To: A K A Stone (#17)
What about Romney is communist?
#23. To: A K A Stone, freedomsnotfree (#19)
Quoting the planks and attributing them to Romney doesn't cut it.
#24. To: freedomsnotfree, A K A Stone (#20)
why...does he somehow get a free pass on his communist leanings in your mind?
#25. To: sneakypete (#13)
The Jews are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves against their Muslim neighbors.
#26. To: Brian S, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#25)
Jewish Vote Goes 69 Percent For Barack Obama: Exit Polls
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#27. To: freedomsnotfree (#20)
why...does he somehow get a free pass on his communist leanings in your mind?
#28. To: sneakypete (#21)
Rand Paul
#29. To: sneakypete (#22)
He's a globalist,and controlling the globe was always the ultimate goal of communists,and in fact the ONLY way it would have worked.
#30. To: sneakypete (#22)
He's also a open borders asshole,and a member of a Christian religious cult. Christianity is a socialist/communist movement.
#31. To: sneakypete (#23)
Rombama
#32. To: sneakypete (#22)
To the left of Obama.
#33. To: hondo68 (#26)
#34. To: sneakypete (#24)
why...does he somehow get a free pass on his communist leanings in your mind?
#35. To: Brian S, Mad dog (#25)
The bastard state, 'you people' call israel, had their collective asses handed to them during the 2006 Israel–Hezbollah War.
#36. To: Brian S (#33)
Romney lost all of the demographic vote
#37. To: A K A Stone (#28)
You Ok Pete. Last I checked when someone runs for President they run in all the states and not just their home state.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#29)
First off where do you see he wants to control the globe.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#30)
(Edited)
He ran the most closed border campaign since Pat Buchanan.
#40. To: A K A Stone (#30)
Mormons aren't christian simpleton.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#31)
Rombama
#42. To: A K A Stone (#32)
You're not only senile and amoral but now you have proven yourself to be stupid.
#43. To: A K A Stone, *Irony* (#34)
Simpleton. He quoted the communist manifesto.
#44. To: sneakypete (#38)
First off where do you see he wants to control the globe.
#45. To: sneakypete (#38)
Secondly simpleton was Julius Caesar a communist. He too wanted to control the globe.
#46. To: sneakypete (#39)
I'm more of an American than you have ever been. Not only did I volunteer to serve in a combat role in the military during a time of war,but so has every generation of my family going back to the Revolutionary War.
#47. To: sneakypete (#42)
You're not only senile and amoral but now you have proven yourself to be stupid.
#48. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#24)
Party People NEVER let facts confuse them.
#49. To: freedomsnotfree (#48)
Party People NEVER let facts confuse them.
#50. To: freedomsnotfree (#48)
#51. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#49)
#52. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#30)
You aren't a real American. You just don't get what it is to be an American. You're entitled to your views but your views would never be considered the solution to thinking people with morals. Pete your basically amoral and kind of senile based on what you have been posting today. You getting enough sun?
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
#53. To: freedomsnotfree (#51)
Stone...I assure you I'm not an idiot. There is absolutely nothing in that manifest that Romney doesn't embrace. I pray God shows you that your fixation on killing innocent people in the middle east, your approval of liars and pagans and your worship of the state, are an anathema to him. Cut the TV off and pray for discernment...you need it my friend.
#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#52)
#55. To: A K A Stone (#53)
I think he is an honorable man.
#56. To: freedomsnotfree (#55)
#57. To: A K A Stone (#36)
But Romney is not a murderer. Obama is.
#58. To: A K A Stone (#50)
It is more like this. I analyzed Romney and Obama. They are different and will do different things. My analysis lead me to two conclusions to keep it short.
1. Either Romney or Obama would be President.
2. Romney has not hint of corruption and what he believes in is much closer to what I believe to be right than Obama.
Mitt Romney: 57,810,407 = 29.4%
NONE OF THE ABOVE: ~77,000,000 = 40%.
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