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Title: Russian Nuclear Attack Sub Detected In Atlantic; Near East Coast
Source: FreeBeacon
URL Source: http://freebeacon.com/russian-subs-skirt-coast/
Published: Nov 5, 2012
Author: Bill Gertz
Post Date: 2012-11-05 18:29:26 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 9852
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November 5, 2012 5:05 pm

A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of the East Coast recently in the latest sign Russia is continuing to flex its naval and aerial power against the United States, defense officials said.

The submarine was identified by its NATO designation as a Russian Seirra-2 class submarine believed to be based with Russia’s Northern Fleet. It was the first time that class of Russian submarine had been detected near a U.S. coast, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of anti-submarine warfare efforts.

One defense official said the submarine was believed to have been conducting anti- submarine warfare efforts against U.S. ballistic and cruise missile submarines based at Kings Bay, Georgia.

A second official said the submarine did not sail close to Kings Bay and also did not threaten a U.S. aircraft carrier strike group that was conducting exercises in the eastern Atlantic.

Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, north of Jacksonville, Fla., is homeport for two guided missile submarines and six nuclear missile submarines. The submarines are known to be a target of Russian attack submarines.

Meanwhile, the officials also said that a Russian electronic intelligence-gathering vessel was granted safe harbor in the commercial port of Jacksonville, Fla., within listening range of Kings Bay.

The Russian AGI ship, or Auxiliary-General Intelligence, was allowed to stay in the port to avoid the superstorm that battered the U.S. East Coast last week. A Jacksonville Port Authority spokeswoman had no immediate comment on the Russian AGI at the port.

“A Russian AGI and an SSN in the same geographic area as one of the largest U.S. ballistic missile submarine bases—Kings Bay—is reminiscent of Cold War activities of the Soviet navy tracking the movements of our SSBN’s,” said a third U.S. official, referring to the designation for ballistic missile submarines, SSBN.

“While I can’t talk about how we detected it, I can tell you that things worked the way they were supposed to,” the second official said, stating that the Russian submarine “poses no threat whatsoever.”

According to naval analysts, the Russian attack submarine is outfitted with SS-N-21 anti-submarine warfare missiles, as well as SS-N-16 anti-submarine warfare missiles. It also is equipped with torpedoes.

The U.S. Navy deploys a series of underwater sonar sensors set up at strategic locations near the United States that detected the submarine sometime late last month.

The submarine is currently believed to be in international waters several hundred miles from the United States.

The official said the deployment appeared to be part of efforts by the Russian navy to re-establish its blue-water naval power projection capabilities.

Naval analyst Miles Yu, writing in the newsletter Geostrategy Direct, stated that Russia announced in February it is stepping up submarine patrols in strategic waters around the world in a throwback to the Soviet period.

“On June 1 or a bit later we will resume constant patrolling of the world’s oceans by strategic nuclear submarines,” Russian Navy Commander Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky was quoted as saying Feb. 3.

During the Cold War, Moscow’s submarine forces carried out hundreds of submarine patrols annually to maintain its first- and second-strike nuclear capabilities. By 1984, the Soviet Union was declining but its naval forces conducted 230 submarine patrols. Today the number is fewer than 10 patrols.

Richard Fisher, a military analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said Russian submarine patrols in the Atlantic have been reduced but remain “regular.”

“As was their primary mission during the Cold War, Russian SSNs [nuclear attack submarines] would likely be trying to track U.S. nuclear missile submarines deploying from Kings Bay, Ga., and to monitor U.S. naval deployments from Norfolk, Va.,” Fisher said in an email.

While the Sierra-2 is comparable to the U.S. Los Angeles-class attack submarine, Russia is building a new class of attack submarines that are said to be comparable to the latest U.S. Virginia-class submarines, Fisher said.

The submarine deployment followed stepped-up Russian nuclear bomber activity near U.S. borders last summer, including the transit of two Bear-H strategic bombers near the Alaska air defense zone during Russian strategic bomber war games in arctic in late June.

Then on July 4, in an apparent Fourth of July political message, a Russian Bear-H flew the closest to the U.S. West Coast that a Russian strategic bomber had flown since the Cold War when such flights were routine.

In both incidents, U.S. military spokesmen sought to downplay the threat posed by the air incursions, apparently in response to the Obama administration’s conciliatory “reset” policy of seeking closer ties with Moscow.

U.S. and Canadian interceptor jets were scrambled to meet the Russian bombers during the flights last summer.

The officials did not provide the name of the Russian submarine. However, the sole Sierra-2 submarine still deployed with Russia’s Northern Fleet is the nuclear powered attack submarine Pskov that was first deployed in 1993.

Confirmation of the recent Sierra-2 submarine deployment followed a report from U.S. national security officials who said a more advanced and harder-to-detect Russian Akula-class attack submarine had sailed undetected in the Gulf of Mexico in August.

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan W. Greenert, in response to the report first published in the Free Beacon, stated in a letter to Sen. John Cornyn (R., Texas) that “based on all of the source information available to us, a Russian submarine did not enter the Gulf of Mexico.”

Navy spokesmen did not say whether an Akula had been detected elsewhere in the Atlantic around that time period.

A Navy spokesman said later that the last time an Akula was confirmed as present near the United States was 2009.

The U.S. is not the only country responding to increased Russian strategic bomber activity.

Norway’s military has detected an increase in Russian strategic bomber flights near its territory, the most recent being the flight of a Bear H bomber on Sept. 11 and 12 that was shadowed by NATO jet fighters.

Norwegian Lt. Col. John Espen Lien told the Free Beacon in an email that the number of Russian bomber flights this year was more than in the past, with 55 bombers detected.

According to Norwegian military data, Russian aircraft flights near Norwegian coasts began increasing in July 2007 and increased from 14 flights in 2006 to 88 in 2007. There were 87 in 2008 and 77 in 2009 and a decline to 37 in 2010 and 48 in 2011.

“Most of these strategic flights are … Tupolev TU-95 Bear [bombers],” he stated. “In 2007 (and partly 2008) we also identified some TU-160 Blackjack. Lately we have also identified some TU-22 Backfire.”

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#2. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of the East Coast recently in the latest sign Russia is continuing to flex its naval and aerial power against the United States, defense officials said.

PLEASE.

This is SOP for the submarine service.

The submarine was identified by its NATO designation as a Russian Seirra-2 class submarine believed to be based with Russia’s Northern Fleet.

It's an attack boat, not a ballistic missile boat...


The titanium- hulled Sierra II class boats can descent to unprecedented depths

It's armed for anti-submarine and anti-fleet operations, not strategic attacks like civilians normally think of.

From here:

The "attack" or multipurpose nuclear submarine force traditionally had a primarily anti-ship and anti-submarine mission: they were supposed to hunt and destroy enemy submarines and surface ships (the priority target was U.S. aircraft carriers). Consequently, the emphasis was given to anti-ship cruise missiles and torpedoes, the latest models of which are highly sophisticated. The same mission was also supported by diesel submarines in relatively shallow waters close to shore or in narrow straits. More recently, attack submarines have also acquired cruise missiles for use against land targets. With the exception of SLBMs, all weapons on board submarines are non- nuclear in accordance with the 1991 U.S.-Soviet Presidential Nuclear Initiatives (PNIs).

I suggest you get the book Blind Man's Bluff. It presents the most accurate portrayal of what really goes on in the submarine service.

Oh, and yes, I served on a fast-attack boat, a ways back.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-05   19:05:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

Oh, and yes, I served on a fast-attack boat, a ways back.

Oh I'm sure you did. The one your grammy bought you for christmas to play with in the tub when she had to babysit your mealy ass...

Seriously.

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-05   19:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#4)

Seriously.

Yup.

USS Archerfish (SSN-678), stretch-637 fast-attack boat, EM3/SS, NEC 3354... It was a slow but quiet boat, and we did our share of spook-ops. Shell-back and Blue-nose, as well.

Unlike you, when I say something, it's true.

You're dismissed, you o'Bungler cocksucker.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-05   19:47:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)

LOL. And I once owned a cow that flew over the moon.

poser.

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-05   21:38:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#6)

LOL. And I once owned a cow that flew over the moon.

poser.

Anyone who knows the real deal, would already know that I posted enough legit information to verify. The Army uses an MOS, the Navy (at the time) used an NEC. 3354 is Electricians' Mate, Nuclear. Here, I'll even go further. BE&E at Great Lakes. EM "A" Great Lakes. Nuke power school, Orlando, Florida, class #8701. Trained at the prototype at Idaho Falls, ID... on the second to last class to run the S1W reactor (the Nautilus prototype). Went to the fleet in '87. DD214 12/15/91, code RE-1.

I don't need to "pose" for some dipshit like you... 'Cause I'm the real deal, and you're just a miserable little fucker.

Thanks for playing, douche-bag.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-06   0:21:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)

Anyone who knows the real deal, would already know that I posted enough legit information to verify. The Army uses an MOS, the Navy (at the time) used an NEC. 3354 is Electricians' Mate, Nuclear. Here, I'll even go further. BE&E at Great Lakes. EM "A" Great Lakes. Nuke power school, Orlando, Florida, class #8701. Trained at the prototype at Idaho Falls, ID... on the second to last class to run the S1W reactor (the Nautilus prototype). Went to the fleet in '87. DD214 12/15/91, code RE-1.

LOL Google is a friend of mine also.

{{{laughing at you}}}

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-06   10:44:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brian S (#9)

LOL Google is a friend of mine also.

His 'claim' is the first Google hit.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-06   10:52:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#10) (Edited)

His 'claim' is the first Google hit.

Which would be what, praytell?

Everything I've stated, is accurate. Were I so inclined (and wanted to dig through my old files) I could scan and post a copy of my DD214. So what? I could even post a pic of me standing in machinery room 2 upper level (standing between the switchgear, aft of the tunnel, just forward of the aft escape trunk) and you would still say I'm not telling the truth.

Oh, and if you want an exact pic of what the control panels of a nuke boat look like, here's a pic:

The left-most panel is the throttleman station. The large wheel is for the "ahead" turbine poppet valves, the small for the "aft." The black rectangular gauge on the upper portion was actually two gauges, indicating water levels of both steam generators. The white dial on the lower portion, right side directly behind the large throttle wheel in the pic, with a knob sticking out of the bottom) is the annunciator, which tells what bell is being called for by control. The white dial opposite that, on the left side, is the guage indicating shaft RPMs, which you have to convert into knots, depending on the propeller the boat is fitted with. "Speed" props give better knots per turn, than stealth props, but are obviously noiser. Underway, this was my usual watchstation- throttle-jockey, as we called it.

The middle panel is the RPCP- reactor plant control panel. In-port, this was my post when on duty, as SRO- shutdown reactor operator. It was the senior supervisory watchstation for an EM3/SS on a nuke boat, while SEO was the junior station in-port. The handle in the lower center of the panel powers control rods up or down, to account for fission-poison burnoff while underway. Missing on this control panel (at least for the S5W reactor) are the main coolant pump start/stop controls, where three are installed on each loop. (One pump is required for <50% power, 2 when >50%, a third for redundancy). On the vertical portion of the center panel are the reactor power gauges, one for each range. You could switch between three different channels to compare. The little "box" to the left of the gauges was the SCRAM switch, which would deeenergize all control rod drive mechanisms (CRDMs) and shut the reactor down in an emergency.

The right hand panel was the electric plant control panel (EPCP), where the electrical operator sat. Controls included switchgear, synchronization, diesel generator paralleling, MG sets, and electrical operation of the turbine generators. TGs usually had 2MW of capacity, the DG had 500kW, and each MG had 450KW.

I sincerely doubt you'll find all THAT on google...

As I said, I don't need to pose, because I'm the real deal, and Brian's just another miserable socialist cocksucker.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-06   12:28:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

Everything I've stated, is accurate. Were I so inclined (and wanted to dig through my old files) I could scan and post a copy of my DD214. So what? I could even post a pic of me standing in machinery room 2 upper level (standing between the switchgear, aft of the tunnel, just forward of the aft escape trunk) and you would still say I'm not telling the truth.

Shades of 'Badeye'... ;)

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-06   12:43:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#12)

Shades of 'Badeye'... ;)

Now Brian, that is a low blow. Be nice.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-11-06   17:40:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

Brian S: Shades of 'Badeye'... ;)
Freddie: Now Brian, that is a low blow. Be nice.

Lyin' Brian is left with shallow insults, because I've proven my point, in a way that any other nuke-trained sub driver would be able to easily confirm...

Indeed, were he able to, he'd use google (or some other crutch) to allow him to continue challenging me.... Hell, I'm sure he's tried to... But he can't.

He makes it so easy. ;)

Check-mate.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-06   17:55:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)

Lyin' Brian is left with shallow insults

That is all you are is a 'shallow insult' but carry on...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-06 18:34:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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