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Title: Detroit's Coupe de Grace
Source: Wired
URL Source: http://www.wired.com/news/technolog ... h/0,72692-0.html?tw=wn_index_1
Published: Feb 12, 2007
Author: John Gartner
Post Date: 2007-02-12 23:12:08 by A K A Stone
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Views: 1851
Comments: 2

Detroit is going on a green offensive with electric plug-in models that can run emissions-free for up to 40 miles -- at about a quarter the cost of gas -- on batteries that draw their juice directly from the grid.

GM's Chevrolet Volt and Ford's HySeries Drive, unveiled as concept prototypes for the first time last month, leapfrog current hybrid designs and could put pressure on Toyota's popular Prius by offering consumers better value. Although these cars are not scheduled for production until the end of the decade or later, many experts now believe plug-ins offer the best tradeoffs combination yet in terms of energy efficiency, emissions and practicality.

Check out pictures of the Chevy Volt here.

"Once plug-in hybrids appear, I don't know why 'mere' hybrids would be appealing," said Philip Reed, the Fuel Economy Guide editor for Edmunds. "Plug-in hybrids do everything that hybrids can do but at a lower cost to consumers."

Detroit's troubles run far deeper than next year's or even next decade's models: GM and Ford are struggling with massive pension liabilities and deep-seated labor problems at a time when Japanese rivals are making deep inroads with fuel-efficient models, including hybrids.

Ford last month announced a record annual loss of $12.7 billion for 2006, the result of painful restructurings that likely haven't ended. Toyota, by contrast, is coming on strong. With record net income of $3.5 billion during its most recent quarter, it is poised to overtake GM as the world's No.1 automaker, in part thanks to prescient bets on fuel-efficient technologies such as the hybrid drive that powers the Prius.

GM and Ford, by contrast, which currently sell hybrid SUVs and trucks, have seen their reputations with consumers take a beating over short-sighted strategies, culminating in GM's portrayal in the movie Who Killed the Electric Car. In a survey by Harris Interactive of consumers rating the 60 most well-respected U.S. companies, GM ranked 57th, while Ford was 55th.

Reed said plug-in hybrids would enable the companies to surpass hybrids by offering more environmentally friendly vehicles. But he added public relations may be the most practical benefit, at least in the immediate future. "The announcement of the plug-in hybrids seems designed to offset that negative publicity. However, the question is whether they really will reach the marketplace."

Plug-in hybrids will be cheaper to own than today's hybrids because they can run on battery power for up to 40 miles before needing to be recharged. The cost of propelling a vehicle using electricity is a fraction of that of gasoline, according to data from the Electric Power Research Institute.

Although the price of electricity and gasoline vary widely by state, EPRI says on average electric power is the equivalent of 75 cents a gallon gasoline, or between one-third and one-quarter of the cost of gas. Plug-in hybrid owners who drive 40 miles a day or more would save at least $900 a year, according to Beth Lowry, GM's vice president of environment and energy. Plug-in hybrid vehicles are expected to cost marginally more than today's hybrid vehicles, but relying primarily on electric power would pay back their extra cost much faster.

Plug-in hybrids are appealing to environmentally conscious people because they do not spew greenhouse gases when utilizing battery power. While the coal and natural gas power plants that would provide the bulk of the electricity would increase their emissions, the net effect would be a significant pollution reduction. Running on battery power reduces carbon dioxide emissions by 23 percent and volatile organic compounds by 92 percent, according to a recent report by the U.S. Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, or PNNL.

"Once (plug-in hybrids) are out, they will make many other cars obsolete, including today's hybrids," said Andy Frank, a professor of mechanical and aeronautical engineering at the University of California at Davis. Frank, who has been developing hybrid vehicles for more than 30 years, has been granted nine patents for plug-in vehicles and sees them as the inevitable successor to the Prius. Frank built plug-in hybrids that weigh about the same as today's hybrids while offering superior fuel economy.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I replaced a simple switch.. A switch (<- Emphasis) on a nissan once. The cost? $450.00.

The same switch (Which is actually a sensor on this model, as it's much more complicated and contains a resistor network) on a $50,000, top of the line, crew cab, dually turbo diesel, ford truck was $40.00.

While I was at the ford dealer getting the sensor for the truck, there was some kind of weirdo hybrid SUV in there for service with a bad battery which constituted it's "hybrid power". (May have been an Explorer or an Escape, I forget now.) The cost for that battery? Glad you asked.. It's $5700.00.

The service manager laughed how lucky it was the SUV was still under warranty. All I could think was, damn.. No kidding.

I also reject this notion that plugging something into the wall constitutes a decrease in emissions or makes it more efficient.

One recent study showed that current hybrids (Yes, even the Pirus) used more energy from conception to destruction than the Hummer.

They don't last as long, they're more dangerous and more expensive to maintenance, they use more energy and you have subsidize the fucking things to sell them... I hate hybrids.

They're all hype.. They don't deliver, they just make simple people feel good about getting ripped off.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2007-02-13   4:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jhoffa_ (#1)

I hate hybrids.

They're all hype.. They don't deliver, they just make simple people feel good about getting ripped off.

I don't hate them. Sure they are overpriced and need much improvement. I think they are a step in the right direction and will become better and better as time passes. And yes that battery was expensive. Also i'm not a greenie weenie. If some wants a SUV that is their busines.

Yes it is true...I am a thought criminal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2007-02-13   8:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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