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Title: Pentagon Denies Claims General Was Fired Over Benghazi Attacks
Source: examiner
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/article/pen ... as-fired-over-benghazi-attacks
Published: Oct 30, 2012
Author: examiner
Post Date: 2012-10-30 22:40:36 by Brian S
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Comments: 111

On Monday, U.S. military officials denied claims from a Washington Times blog that Gen. Carter Ham, former head of U.S. Africa command, may have been fired due to an intent to disobey defense secretary Leon Panetta's order to "stand down" while the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi were underway.

This story is gathering steam as Charlie Woods, father of slain Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, went on the Glenn Beck show this past weekend to claim that President Barack Obama had shown no remorse for his son's death during their meeting. (YouTube Video)

Over the weekend, a source inside the Pentagon informed Times reporter James Robbins that Gen. Ham wanted to send special forces units to help Americans under siege in Libya despite orders from Sec. Panetta to stand down. Ham was supposedly relieved of his command by a junior officer just before Ham was to order the rescue mission.

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#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

Meanwhile they're holding Gen. Ham in the stockade

You said he WAS in the stockade...prove it. You can't.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-30   23:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Thunderbird (#4)
(Edited)

Ham wasn't arrested but his sudden removal as head of Africom wasn't part of any 'normal' rotation either.

So you concur that hondo is a liar?

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-30   23:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#6)

So you concur that hondo is a liar

Panic!

All adds to the impression of a cover-up. In the voting booth, it's not what happened that matters, it's what the sheeple think happened that counts.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-30   23:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#7) (Edited)

So you can't provide a link and hence...you are a liar.

I'm good with that...at least we all know.

Carry on with your lies and I will continue to call you on them.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-30   23:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#8)

I can't make the lying Kenyan talk and he's the CIC, so the others can't. Only Bibi can order Obama to quit lying, and he ain't about to.

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran....


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-30   23:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#1)

Meanwhile they're holding Gen. Ham in the stockade, and pumping him full of "joker" drugs, to shut him up!

No,they are not.

I don't know where you got that from,but they are lying. General Officers are not treated that way,and if one were you can bet your bippy it would be prime time news because the other Generals wouldn't stand for it.

Just because these people take a oath to remain subservient to the political leadership doesn't mean they will or should take that kind of abuse.

At MOST he would be relieved of his command and put on immediate administrative leave until his retirement papers could be processed.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   3:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S, All (#2)

You are starting to post like mcgowanjm.

Why You insane Mutherfucker.

;}

Post something of mine that's not credible.

Do it now....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   10:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#10)

General Officers are not treated that way,

But Colonels are?

LMFAO

Majors?

At what level do you get exemption from the cheney Torture Brigade.....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   10:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12) (Edited)

This is why us Dirty Fuckin Hippies have been railing against the

Sep 14 2001 State of Emergency...

Still classified btw....

It doesn't stop til there's them in the Top .01% and the Rest are slaves.

Everything you need to know from 9/11 to now.... right there in that pic....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   10:06:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

12 years ongoing and STILL

Nothing but a GAWD DAMN

HOLe in the ground....

And New York was giving New Orleans shite.....

And Note not one GD word of criticism of Bloomberg.

WTF else do you need to know.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   10:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

That was easy... LOL

"NYC has refused FEMA assistance. "

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...i?ArtNum=32942&Disp=13#C1

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-31   10:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#15)

"NYC has refused FEMA assistance. "

You're gonna think easy.

Hope you've got alot of supplies on that island of yours,

How long do you think it'll take for that bridge behind you to burn.....;} # . Bloomberg Turns Down Offer of FEMA Assistance for NYC # Daily Kos :: Recent steve-everett.dailykos.com/section/Diary/67 5 days ago – This has the potential to a historic storm for the northeast. ... www.storm2k.org/. .... to Bloomberg News Planned Parenthood in Texas has been denied a .... Bloomberg Turns Down Offer of FEMA Assistance for NYC ...

. Bloomberg Turns Down Offer of FEMA Assistance for NYC

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Brian S, All (#16)

Seriously. He really did this with a hurricane barreling towards the Northeast that forecasts now indicate will produce 10-20 ft. waves in New York City on top of the higher water we can already expect. President Obama directed FEMA Director Craig Fugate to call Mayor Bloomberg earlier in the day to offer assistance. Governor Cuomo had asked for FEMA aid. Bloomberg said thanks, but no thanks. He said we had what we needed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#17)

You are as full of shit as a christmas turkey...oaf.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-31   11:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#17)

Seriously. He really did this with a hurricane barreling towards the Northeast that forecasts now indicate will produce 10-20 ft. waves in New York City on top of the higher water we can already expect. President Obama directed FEMA Director Craig Fugate to call Mayor Bloomberg earlier in the day to offer assistance. Governor Cuomo had asked for FEMA aid. Bloomberg said thanks, but no thanks. He said we had what we needed.

The Weather Channel said part of the problem was the tides pushed by the winds were not able to recede, then the next tide (still pushed by the wind) just piled on more water.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-31   11:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Brian S, All (#17)

Post subject: Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:37 pm Offline Tropical Low Tropical Low

Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:59 am Posts: 38 The mayor is holding back because of how lower zone residents were evacuated for Irene for 'no reason' (even though it was pretty close to being a disaster down there).

Irene was the worst thing that could have happened to that city because now this storm is being downplayed in every way, expecting it to turn out like Irene.

Top Profile

ObsessedMiami Post subject: Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:38 pm Offline Tropical Storm Tropical Storm

Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:08 pm Posts: 163 Location: Miami, FL The best part of Bloomberg's press conference was his brushing off the president's offer of assistance and stating that "I assured him that we had, we think, everything under control but we appreciate the effort. What FEMA really can do is to help those parts of the country that don’t have all of the extensive facilities and agencies and practice that New York City does. But I did want to thank them for their offer. "

sorry if it seems like pure politics the way i quoted it: was more focusing on prep attitudes in NYC. Hope they all are ok.

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=114017&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=2000

Last edited by ObsessedMiami on Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:44 pm, edited 3 times in total.

You need anything else, Brian S, or are you Still gonna stand where you are.....please say yes.....keep fcukin' with me.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#19)

The Weather Channel said part of the problem was the tides pushed by the winds were not able to recede, then the next tide (still pushed by the wind) just piled on more water.

The problem.

The geography. A bight where there was no where for the surge to go.

The Storm. We don't have a name for what Sandy became.

The Perfect Storm combined with a mini Day after Tomorrow.

Sandy tapped/is tapping (Ohio is still losing electric customers Lakeside) directly into the polar Jet Stream.

The Tide. high tide coinciding with Constant SE winds.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

LOL. So some 'forum writer' says it so it must be true. The hole you are digging keeps getting deeper.

You might want to switch to a long-handle shovel soon.

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-31   11:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Brian S, All (#18) (Edited)

You are as full of shit as a christmas turkey...oaf.

Never did hear how you reconciled with A K A.

Weren't you leaving with your bat and ball over his Abortion BS?

LMFAO

You. Mad. U Fcuked Up....;}

Need that apology now, or you getter get like Yukon/Mad Dog....

;}

www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/vi...st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=2000

Saturday october 27 2012 President Obama directed FEMA Director Craig Fugate to call Mayor Bloomberg earlier in the day to offer assistance. Governor Cuomo had asked for FEMA aid. Bloomberg said thanks, but no thanks. He said we had what we needed.

And I was cutting you serious slack.....;}

Diss me you stupid MoFo....;} <

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mcgowanjm (#23)

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-31   11:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Brian S, All (#23)

And because of you I just wasted 15 min I could've spent enlightening on

Mantoloking, NJ Fire Reignites In Jersey Shore Town (VIDEO) Huffington Post‎ - 1 hour ago

MANTOLOKING, N.J. -- Fires that destroyed about 14 homes in a New Jersey shore ... at the University of Iowa, told National Geographic News.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#24)

Watch Bloomberg skate.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Brian S (#22)

LOL. So some 'forum writer' says it so it must be true. The hole you are digging keeps getting deeper.

You might want to switch to a long-handle shovel soon.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Inhale....

BUWAHAHAHAHAHA

So NOW I have to go into either Storm2k or Daily kos

to give you the EXACT source on Bloomberg?

Do you need a you tube as well you MORON?

Keep comin'.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mcgowanjm (#12)

eneral Officers are not treated that way, But Colonels are?

LMFAO

Majors?

At what level do you get exemption from the cheney Torture Brigade.....

You need to slow down so the guys with the butterfly nets can catch and medicate you again.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   11:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#13)

This is why us Dirty Fuckin Hippies have been railing against

You're not a hippy. You are a communist.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   11:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mcgowanjm (#17)

Seriously. He really did this with a hurricane barreling towards the Northeast that forecasts now indicate will produce 10-20 ft. waves in New York City on top of the higher water we can already expect. President Obama directed FEMA Director Craig Fugate to call Mayor Bloomberg earlier in the day to offer assistance. Governor Cuomo had asked for FEMA aid. Bloomberg said thanks, but no thanks. He said we had what we needed.

He doesn't want to give up the power and most especially doesn't want to give up his power to people he considers to be less competent than him.

Once you invite the feds in they take over.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   11:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mcgowanjm (#25)

I posted on this event some 30 minutes ago as I know how to post an article not just nonsensical drivel within a forum...

Mantoloking Fire: New Jersey Shore Town Hit Hard By Hurricane Sandy On Fire, Flames Reaching Sky

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33025

{{{chuckle}}}

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-10-31   11:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#28)

Nice Disinfo there, joker....;}

No answering shite but acting like you've got it under control...

that works only until it doesn't....;}

See obama likes cheney torture gitmo for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Brian S (#31)

I posted on this event some 30 minutes ago as I know how to post an article not just nonsensical drivel within a forum...

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for that!!!...;}

Damn you're good.

Now where's that FUCKING APOLOGY! ;}

NYC Mayor's Office ‏@NYCMayorsOffice Mayor: We are not ordering any evacuations as of this time, in any part of the city.

NYC Mayor's Office ‏@NYCMayorsOffice Mayor: Although we’re expecting a large surge of water, it will be a slower pile-up and not a sudden wall of water.

NYC Mayor's Office ‏@NYCMayorsOffice Mayor: Even though we are not ordering evacuations, conditions will be dangerous during the storm. The safest thing to do is stay inside.

NYC Mayor's Office ‏@NYCMayorsOffice Mayor: We haven’t made a decision yet as to whether schools will be open on Monday. We will make that decision and announce it tomorrow.

NYC Mayor's Office ‏@NYCMayorsOffice Mayor: Because of the hazards posed by high winds, all City parks will be closed after 5 PM tomorrow.

Wow...just unbelievable! Not evacuating, and commenting it is a "slow pile up" and not a tsunami type surge? 10 feet, is 10 feet...regardless of how fast it comes in!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

LMFAO

Looks like they're scrubbin' away on theinternet.

Not even a 404

www.nydailynews.com/blogs...ep-dont-be-complacent-nyc

#

# Mayor Bloomberg Update On Hurricane Sandy Storm Prep: Don't Be ... www.nydailynews.com/.../2...loomberg-update-on-hurr...

October 27, 2012 9:01 PM ... “Let me first thank Pamela Mitchell for signing today. ... I have talked to Governor Cuomo today to ensure that City and State ... “President Obama asked Craig Fugate from FEMA to call me earlier in the day and offer any help. ... nicely and look back on it and say maybe we can offer some help to ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   11:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Brian S, All (#34)

www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2012b/pr376-12-static.html

"President Obama asked Craig Fugate from FEMA to call me earlier in the day and offer any help. I assured him that we had, we think, everything under control but we appreciate the effort. What FEMA really can do is to help those parts of the country that don't have all of the extensive facilities and agencies and practice that New York City does. But I did want to thank them for their offer."

And THAT was a serious bridge burning right there, brian.....;}

Anytime you want to make up. I'm here for ya.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   12:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#30)

Once you invite the feds in they take over.

Like with the SS on 9/11?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   12:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#29)

You're not a hippy. You are a communist.

There's a difference in your political world?

interesting.

how about anarchists and Prince Peter Kropotkin?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-31   12:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mcgowanjm (#32)

Nice Disinfo there, joker....;}

No answering shite but acting like you've got it under control...

that works only until it doesn't....;}

See obama likes cheney torture gitmo for details.

Do YOU even understand what you wrote?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   18:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mcgowanjm (#36)

Once you invite the feds in they take over.

Like with the SS on 9/11?

;}

I honestly have no idea what you are making reference to.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   18:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#37)

ou're not a hippy. You are a communist.

There's a difference in your political world?

There has ALWAYS been a difference for anybody smart enough to bother looking.

One obvious example is hippies have no interest in obtaining total control over anything,much less everything.

Nobody says that about the political class.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   18:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#39)

Like with the SS on 9/11?

During an NSE, the SS is in charge of ALL AIRSPACE.

Like the NSE declared for NYC prior to the UN Meeting.....on 9/11.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   8:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#40)

One obvious example is hippies have no interest in obtaining total control over anything,much less everything.

You seem to know alot about hippies...;}

But the above is the Perfect example of Anarchy....thanx.

And a BTW: Communists would shoot an Anarchist as fast as they would a Capitalist....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   9:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#38)

See obama likes cheney torture gitmo for details.

Sure. You seem to think that lack of the Bill of Rights only applies to the LumpenProletariat....;}

And I'm here to tell you that Only X amt of Privates get whacked before the Majors/Col/Generals and CongressCritters get affected.....

And watch.

Like pushing a patient out of an ICU before s/he's ready.

A previous slight, puts the patient back in remission or worse.

And speaking of useless...

Anything over 10 stories is useless or worse.

“Oh, I see—this is just going to be how it is from here on out,” said New York City resident Brian Marcello, coming to terms with the fact that an immense storm that cripples mass transit systems and knocks out power for millions in the nation’s largest metropolitan area can no longer be regarded as an isolated, freak incident, and will henceforth be just a normal thing that happens. “Hugely destructive weather events are going to keep happening, and they are going to get worse and worse, and living through them is something that will be a part of all our lives from now on, whether we like it or not.” :roll:

The Onion

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   9:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: All (#43)

The president kept staring at the screen and said nothing. Bridgeport came around to see for himself. A TV newscast showed Admiral Waite in uniform in one of the Capitol briefing rooms. ADMIRAL: GURNEY PLANS MILITARY COUP was splashed across the bottom of the picture. “—a terrible idea,” Waite was saying, his face bland. The words at the bottom of the picture shifted: RESIGNS AS CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS. “But if this is how the American people decide they’re going to exercise their constitutional rights, the military’s job is to salute and say, ‘Yes, sir; yes, ma’am.’”

“Lon,” Bridgeport said quietly, “did you?” He had been told nothing of the military planning, but the president looked at him, and Bridgeport could read the answer in his face. “You’d better pack your bags,” he told Gurney then; his smile was gone, and his voice was suddenly that of the experienced politician explaining realities to a clueless junior. “They’re going to have your guts on toast.”

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...uld-happen-part-five.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   9:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mcgowanjm (#41)

During an NSE, the SS is in charge of ALL AIRSPACE.

Not really. They can only request it be shut down when the president is flying in or out. The Office of Reich Security remains in control now that the FAA comes under their massive skirts.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   10:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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