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Title: Just Paid #3.19.9/gallon at the Citgo (Richmond, VA)...Whazzup w/ dat?
Source: Eyewitnes Account
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 26, 2012
Author: Mudboy Slim
Post Date: 2012-10-26 18:40:11 by Mudboy Slim
Keywords: energy, gas prices, ObamaNation
Views: 5716
Comments: 13

I'd be hard-pressed to call this "Breaking News", but gas prices in Richmond were over $Three Fitty less than a week ago.

Does anyone else detect a potential VastLeftWing conspiracy? 10 days before the ObamaNation stands for reelection and local gas prices mysteriously drop?

I'll continue to keep track...somebody said they bought gas fer less than Three Bucks per Gallon today, what's it like in your neck of the woods?

Regards...MUD

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#1. To: buckeroo, JHoffa_, ferret mike, meguro, goldi-lox, mel_living, diva betsy ross, Murron, packrat1145, A K A Stone, unamused (#0)

Sorta takes a Romney issue away, doesn't it?

I know the Mideast has this power over us, but it's sorta disconcerting how easily they can forego Fitty Cents Per Gallon--OR MORE--off their bottom line...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2012-10-26   18:57:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)

Well here's a CT... The war on Iran is postponed until after the election, so Oilbomber opened up the US oil reserves to lower gas prices for the election.

Basically he's siphoning gas and selling it for cheap.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-26   19:01:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2) (Edited)

Obviously, it ain't all that unlikely that the Islamofascists have chosen sides in this Presidential election...MUD

BTW..."The war on Iran is postponed until after the election..."

Weirder things have happened...

"...Oilbomber opened up the US oil reserves to lower gas prices for the election. Basically he's siphoning gas and selling it for cheap."

Is that a fact? Has it been reported that the US oil reserves have been opened?

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2012-10-26   19:24:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mudboy Slim, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#3)

Has it been reported that the US oil reserves have been opened?

No as I stated, it's my CT (Conspiracy Theory) that I just made up, speculation.

You don't think that Oilbomber is going on TV to announce it, do you? Gov has never been THAT transparent. The sheeple love a good BS story, anyway.

The economy is getting better, help is on the way, we're from the gov and we're here to help. /s


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-26   19:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)

See gas prices in Los Angeles today.
$3.87 to $4.99

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-10-27   9:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Abcdefg (#5)

See gas prices in Los Angeles today. $3.87 to $4.99

$3.14 a gallon today in Ohio.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-27   10:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#4)

No as I stated, it's my CT (Conspiracy Theory) that I just made up, speculation.

You don't think that Oilbomber is going on TV to announce it, do you? Gov has never been THAT transparent. The sheeple love a good BS story, anyway.

The economy is getting better, help is on the way, we're from the gov and we're here to help. /s

The American people now compete with governments, corporations and rich speculators the world over in that wonderful entity called the free market.

So then....you must think that the gas/oil companies will voluntarily lower their prices...say, as a gesture of good will when they can get top dollar elsewhere? You are just too funny.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-27   10:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)

"$3.14 a gallon today in Ohio."

$3.19/gal in Virginia...$3.14/gal in Ohio...still $3.50 and more in most NON- tossup states.
I'm starting to smell something fishy.

Does the ObamaNation really have the pull required to warp the market so dramatically for a week or two? I realize how shamelessly they skew the economic numbers the Federal Leviathan puts out in the runup to the election, but this conspiracy would require cooperation from those who make up the gasoline market.

Interesting...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2012-10-27   19:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold (#7)

"...you must think that the gas/oil companies will voluntarily lower their prices...say, as a gesture of good will when they can get top dollar elsewhere?"

Doesn't seem to make much sense, does it, mg? Then again, how would you explain the sharp, instantaneous gas price drops in VA and OH? I'm too cynical to believe in many CTs, but as you point out, gas/oil companies don't tend to voluntarily forego profit if they don't have to...how come VA's gas prices aren't still up around $3.50 like they were last week?

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2012-10-27   19:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Abcdefg (#5)

"See gas prices in Los Angeles today. $3.87 to $4.99"

Due to all y'all's whacky environmental policies (i.e. various gas mix requirements, etc.), CA's fuel prices have long been outliers. Five bucks per gallon, though...OUCH!! And if Obama somehow wins in 10 days, $5/gal (and more) will be commonplace accross the US.

Regards...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2012-10-27   20:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mudboy Slim (#10)

When they first started adding MTBE, there were five boutique blends in Texas. For more information (albeit from 2004) see this article from the Competitive Enterprise Institute, Are Specialized Gasoline Blends Obsolete:

As recently as the early 1990s, the nation's gasoline supply was fungible. The same regular, mid-grade, and premium fuel was sold from coast to coast. But today, we have a bewildering variety of gasoline recipes in use across the country. Each of these specialized blends was designed to help clean the air, but the decade-old track record for the experiment in boutique fuels indicates that it has done more economic harm than environmental good.

Nobody even knows for certain how many different gasoline blends are in use at any given time. AAA has put the number at "more than 15." One pipeline operator says it has to cope with 38 types of gasoline, many of which have to be shipped on a segregated basis. Sen. John Kerry has made a campaign promise to simplify the "more than 300 local and state fuel regulations in the U.S."

This balkanization of the nation's fuel supply was kicked off by the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments, which took effect a few years later. Among other things, the feds mandated something called reformulated gasoline (RFG) for metropolitan areas with the highest levels of ozone, the primary constituent of smog. RFG comes in several varieties and now comprises a third of the nation's fuel supply. Even conventional gas was hit with requirements that vary with geographic location and time of year.

State governments have come up with fuels of their own. Those with counties out of compliance with the federal air quality standard for ozone, but not required to use RFG, nonetheless had to do something to secure EPA approval for their smog-fighting plans. Some of these states created their own unique blends, more stringent than conventional gas but less so than RFG. And, with a tough new federal smog standard coming into effect this year, the pressure on some states to switch from conventional gasoline to something else may increase.

The result has been more varieties of gas than we can confidently count. A driver traveling just a few hundred miles through the upper Midwest may encounter as many as six such federal and state-mandated fuel types.

Each of these blends costs at least a little more to make than conventional gasoline. Most expensive is RFG, which currently averages 12 cents more than conventional gas—due to higher production costs and other factors. Furthermore, the logistical burden of having to separately refine, store, and ship these fuels adds to costs and has increased the incidence of localized shortages and price spikes. Though the relatively high price of oil is the main reason for the gas price spike of 2004, the regulatory burden—which continues to grow—has made a bad situation worse.

Some of these fuel measures have helped reduce vehicle emissions, while others have not, but clearly the overall contribution to air quality has been disappointing. A National Academy of Sciences report concluded that "[a] lthough long-term trends in peak ozone in the United States appear to be downward, it is not certain that any part of these trends can be significantly attributed to the use of RFG." Indeed, the progress in reducing vehicle pollution was just as rapid in the decade before these boutique fuels were introduced than in the decade since.

Looking ahead, these specialized fuel recipes make even less sense. Studies have shown that fleet turnover, from older and dirtier vehicles to cleaner new ones, has a considerably greater overall impact on emissions than fuel changes. And new federal vehicle standards, which apply to every car and truck and will be phased in over the next several years, ensure that emissions will continue to decline for decades to come. Under these standards, a typical new vehicle, operating on any fuel, will produce 70 to 90 percent less pollution than the one it replaces. As vehicles get cleaner, the already-modest performance difference between conventional gas and specialized blends diminishes further.

Legally and politically, it has proven difficult to end or even reduce the proliferation of clean fuel requirements. But it is worthwhile to try, because these costly specialized blends have done little to clean the air, and will do even less in the years to come.

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-10-28   11:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Abcdefg (#11) (Edited)

Legally and politically, it has proven difficult to end or even reduce the proliferation of clean fuel requirements. But it is worthwhile to try, because these costly specialized blends have done little to clean the air, and will do even less in the years to come.

Really? You must be pretty young.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-10-28   12:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

To which of the two parts are you referring?

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-10-28   12:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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