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Title: Presidential Debate Tonight With Third-Party Candidates Moderated by Larry King (9pm ET 10/23)
Source: The Christian Post
URL Source: http://www.christianpost.com/news/p ... moderated-by-larry-king-83805/
Published: Oct 23, 2012
Author: Nicola Menzie
Post Date: 2012-10-23 20:04:33 by Hondo68
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As President Barack Obama and GOP nominee Mitt Romney closed out the last of their three presidential debates Monday night, candidates representing the Libertarian, Green, Constitution, and Justice parties are set to participate in a Third Party Debate tonight moderated by former CNN anchor Larry King.

Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson, Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode, and Justice Party candidate Rocky Anderson have confirmed their participation in tonight's event, according to the Free and Equal Elections Foundation (FEEF).

The Third Party Debate, organized by the FEEF, takes place at 9 p.m. EDT at the Hilton Chicago and will be carried live by several news outlets, minus the major networks such as CNN, MSNBC or Fox News. In addition to being broadcast live on television by C-SPAN, Al Jazeera English, and Russia Today, the FEEF, Ora TV and Link TV will stream the debate as it happens on the Internet.

"The Free and Equal Elections Foundation has assembled a diverse group of ballot-qualified candidates in order to offer a truly multi-partisan debate for American voters. With sponsoring organizations spanning the ideological spectrum from The Nation to The American Conservative, it is clear that both the left and right in this country agree that the two-party system is broken. Free and Equal's debate will be the type of open, honest, and solutions oriented discussion that the American people deserve," the organization said in a statement on its website.

The nonprofit organization said that it was honored to have Larry King moderate the debate, an event the FEEF calls "historic".

"The previous debates between President Obama and Governor Romney have failed to address the issues that really concern everyday Americans. From foreign policy, to the economy, to taboo subjects like our diminishing civil liberties and the drug war, Americans deserve a real debate, real solutions, and real electoral options," added Christina Tobin, Founder and Chair of the Free and Equal Elections Foundation.

King, who hosts the talk show "Larry King Now" on Hulu.com, called Tuesday night's moderating job exciting and said he appreciated the platform the FEEF was providing candidates.

"I have interviewed every U.S. President since Nixon, and lest people forget, I helped usher Ross Perot into the national conversation during the 1992 presidential contest. I appreciate the importance of providing a platform to those with real alternative visions for our country's future," the former CNN host said in a press release.

Although King has shared that he will not be voting for an independent candidate and that it was "obvious they're not going to win," he still believes it's vital that contenders have a platform to address the American people.

Among the four independent candidates appearing Tuesday night, the Libertarian Party's Gary Johnson is the only one who appears on ballots in nearly all 50 states – a feat that King said should have secured the candidate a spot in the three presidential debates with Obama and Romney.

"I would say if you're on the ballot in 40 states, you should be in the debates. And Gary Johnson is, and therefore in my opinion he should have been in these debates. You're on the ballot in 40 states, absolutely," the veteran journalist told Politico in a report published Monday.

King conceded, however, that logistics would be difficult for any network providing a debate platform for every single candidate vying for the presidency.

Johnson had unsuccessfully filed a complaint against the Commission on Presidential Debates in federal court requesting that the commission be forced to included him in the debate.

According to Politico, Johnson's name will be on the ballot in 47 states. The Washington Post suggests that the candidate is a threat to the "Obama-Romney matchup" in Colorado, New Hampshire and Nevada, battleground states "where Johnson could prove a nuisance to his major party competition."

In a report examining the question of whether the Commission on Presidential Debates is unfair to third parties, author and Open Debates Executive Director George Farrah told CBS News that third parties "have played a critical role in raising issues that are critical to the conversation in this country."

"When you exclude them from the debate, you have a sort of ideological containment," he added.

"None of the four candidates are strangers to politics," The Washington Post notes. "Johnson served two terms as governor of New Mexico and pursued the Republican presidential nomination in 2011 before opting for the Libertarian nod. Goode represented a central Virginia district in Congress as a Democrat, independent, and Republican. Anderson was the mayor of Salt Lake City, Utah, while Stein ran against Romney in the 2002 Massachusetts governor's race."

Viewers of Tuesday night's first Third Pary Debate will determine through instant runoff voting online which two of the four candidates will face each other in the second debate, scheduled for Oct. 30 in Washington, D.C.

The Free and Equal Elections Foundation is a nonprofit whose goal is to "give every candidate a fair chance at winning their respective elections, but more importantly, allow voters to vote for a candidate that best represents their values and beliefs."

Viewers can tune into www.freeandequal.org/live Tuesday night to watch the Third Party Debate live online. The FEEF has invited voters to submit questions for the candidates through its website at: http://action.freeandequal.org/ask-a-question.


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Thanks!

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-10-23   20:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Abcdefg (#1)

www.ora.tv/ora2012/thirdparty

The link above seems to work well, even with my crappy internet connection.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-23   20:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

I was looking up some stuff on Virgil Goode. Mostly a good record. Until I came across this. "Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)"

I know Romney has the same postilion unfortunately.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#2)

Then I came across this on Goode too.

Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#2)

Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)

There is another Goode Position that I don't agree with.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#2)

Then I came across this on Goode too.

Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#2)

and here is a bunch of Goode positions

Voted NO on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad. (Mar 2008) Voted NO on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations. (Mar 2008) Voted YES on restricting no-bid defense contracts. (Mar 2007) Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006) Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006) Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005) Voted YES on continuing military recruitment on college campuses. (Feb 2005) Voted NO on supporting new position of Director of National Intelligence. (Dec 2004) Voted YES on adopting the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. (Oct 2004) Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003) Voted YES on permitting commercial airline pilots to carry guns. (Jul 2002) Voted YES on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill. (Jul 1999) Voted YES on deploying SDI. (Mar 1999) End draft registration; all-volunteer forces . (Dec 2000) Federal duty to provide missile defense . (Dec 2000) Allow assassination of terrorist leaders. (Jan 2001) Rated 0% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003) Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11. (Dec 2007) Set minimum spending on defense at 4% of GDP. (Dec 2007)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Abcdefg (#1)

Then there is Gary Johnson.

He is a baby killer.

Women's right to choose until fetal viability. (Jun 2011)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Murron (#8)

Here are some more Gay Johnson positions

I support gay unions; government out of marriage business. (Apr 2011) Support principles embodied in the Equal Rights Amendment. (Feb 2001)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#2)

Gay Johnson

Visited Occupy Wall Street; we need radical surgery. (Feb 2012)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68, Capitalist Eric (#2)

Gay Johnson is a flip flopper

1994: Proponent of death penalty, but willing to debate it. (Jan 2012) Death penalty as a public policy is flawed. (Jan 2012) Don't risk putting innocent to death. (Aug 2011)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Gary Johnson

Zero tolerance for violence against government employees. (Aug 2001)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

Gary Johnson

I support evolution; but no federal involvement. (May 2012)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68, Capitalist Eric (#2)

Gary Johnson

I accept global warming but not cap-and-trade. (Jun 2011)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Capitalist Eric, sneakypete (#9)

Gary Johnson

Kyoto Treaty must include reductions by all countries. (Aug 2000)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#14)

Gay Johnson

Refused 'Marriage Vow' pledge; it condemns gays & singles. (Nov 2011)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Hondo, Capitalist Eric (#15)

Gary Gay Johnson

No tariffs, no restrictions; but no corporatism. (Jul 2011) Eliminate needless barriers to free trade. (May 2011) NAFTA benefits New Mexico; jobs lost are those we don't want. (Jan 2001)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Hondo (#10)

Gary Johnson

Arizona anti-immigrant law leads to racial profiling. (Aug 2012)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Hondo, Capitalist Eric (#17)

Gary Johnson

2 year grace period for illegals to get work visas. (Nov 2011)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Hondo (#19)

More on this moron Gary Johnson

Let some, but not all, illegal immigrants stay in US. (Nov 2011) We educate the world's best & brightest; why send them back? (Jun 2011) Open the border; flood of Mexicans would become taxpayers. (Jan 2001) Mexican immigrants are pursuing same dreams we all have. (Jan 2001) Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lucysmom, mininggold, Capitalist Eric, Hondo (#20)

You all have something in common. None of you will vote against Obama. You must like him.

Here is another Gary Johnson postions you will really like. You one issue voters. Cut all support and aid to Israel. (May 2012)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   21:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I was looking up some stuff on Virgil Goode. Mostly a good record. Until I came across this. "Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)"

If true and he has never said publicly that it was a mistake,that is unforgivable.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-23   22:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Wouldn't it be easier to just post that you are pimping for Rombama?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-23   22:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#22)

www.issues2000.org/VA/Virgil_Goode.htm

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   22:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#23)

Wouldn't it be easier to just post that you are pimping for Rombama?

Just pointing out their records aren't all that great either.

I'm a lot closer to Goode then Gay Johsnon though.

No one agrees with everyone on everything. Republicans think more like me in general then democrats.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   22:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#21)

One advantage that they all have over Barry and Mitt is, none of them are gayer than Ted Kennedy, not even the commie Rocky.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-23   22:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#23)

conservativetimes.org/?p=11285 Healthy Skepticism of Virgil Goode Stonewall

Posted under Constitution Party & Election 2012 & Interventionism & Iraq

Last weekend I had the opportunity to meet with Virgil Goode, the presumptive nominee of the Constitution Party. This week is the CP National Convention in Nashville. Unfortunately I’m not able to make the convention this time around, but I sincerely hope that my fellow Constitutionalists will scrutinize Goode to the hilt. In 2008 we rightly rejected Alan Keyes because he’s a neocon. Goode’s neocon leanings, especially with respect to foreign policy, ought to be top on the list of concerns for the delegates at the 2012 convention.

I’m not going to bore readers with a list of mistakes from Goode’s congressional voting record. Suffice to say he’s voted for some ridiculous things as a member of Congress, but the top two concerns for us Constitutionalists ought to be his votes on the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. I asked Goode about both of these issues and I really wasn’t impressed with his answers. He’s a nice fellow and all, but I don’t think he’s a fit for our Party and certainly shouldn’t be our presidential nominee.

When asked about the Iraq War, Goode never walked that back at all. If anything, he gave me a muddled answer which didn’t really address my original question. He talked about how he wants to end foreign aid, bring our troops home from overseas, and that Congress ought to make a declaration of war before going to war–all good things, to be sure–but this wasn’t a real answer. Not once did he come close to saying that the war itself was a mistake. But I’m honestly not surprised given Goode’s previous promotion of our intervention into Iraq.

Regarding the Patriot Act, Goode did say that it was a mistake to subject American citizens to the Patriot Act. But he voted for it–twice. Once for the original legislation and again to make it permanent. He said that he was fine with applying the Patriot Act to non-citizens. Okay. I’m not sure if this can be considered a walking back on this particular issue, but at least his answer on this was more straightforward than when I asked him about the war. Even so, for someone who claims to uphold the Constitution, voting “no” on the Patriot Act should have been a no-brainer.

At any rate, I sincerely hope and pray that the Constitution Party does not wholeheartedly embrace Virgil Goode–unless he publicly repudiates the aforementioned votes. Delegates, now is the opportunity to make yourselves heard. Now is not the time to shrink back and sacrifice our Party’s principles in the name of having a “big name” on the ballot. Whatever happened to “principle above party”? We already have one Republican Party and we certainly don’t need another.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   22:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: hondo68 (#26)

Gay Johnson is the most pro gay. Followed by Obama. Then Romney. Then Goode.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-23   22:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

The full third party debate.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-24   8:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: hondo68 (#29)

Which one do you support?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-24   9:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone, hondo68, jwpegler, mininggold, sneakypete (#21)

You all have something in common. None of you will vote against Obama. You must like him.

A textbook definition of a "false choice dilemma."

Your infantile arguments are only effective on people who are as shallow-minded as yourself.

I'll not be playing your game, thank you very much. Participation in a rigged game is a suckers' bet.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-10-24   12:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Hondo (#30)

#30. To: hondo68 (#29)

Which one do you support?

Come on big mouth. Who are you supporting?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-24   20:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32) (Edited)

Probably Virgil Goode, he looked half lit at the debate, and I'm hoping he'll have a couple of more shots and punch Moonbeam out.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-10-24   20:53:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: hondo68 (#33)

Probably Virgil Goode,

He voted to make the patriot act permenant.

You're a hypocrite.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-24   21:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#33)

Why is your guy covering up for Bush?

Voted NO on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq. (Jun 2008)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-24   21:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: hondo68 (#33)

Your guy voted for endless war

Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)

Your guy is a lot like Romney. Better then Obama but still flawed like all of them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-24   21:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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