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Title: Death Knells For The US Dollar, Gold Price Ready To Explode Upward
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URL Source: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article36739.html
Published: Sep 27, 2012
Author: Jim_Willie_CB
Post Date: 2012-09-27 19:41:35 by Capitalist Eric
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Comments: 18

The recent decision by the US Federal Reserve to contaminate the financial body until it responds favorably was the last straw in my book. Witness a declaration of permanent QE and hyper monetary inflation of the most virulent strain, unsterilized. The USFed is essentially admitting failure. The signal serves as the loudest death knell for the USDollar among many in a sequence. On a similar parallel note, lighter and more humorous, one might be reminded of the pirate swash buckling style of yelling at the swabbies that the beatings will continue until morale improves. The QE bond monetization of USGovt debt has turned viral and entrenched. It is sold as stimulus, when in fact it acts like a giant wet blanket on the USEconomy. It is intended as stimulus to businesses, but the effect is felt on the financial speculation and on Asian direct business investment. In the past the emergency lever device had been successful only because it was used on a temporary basis. But now the USFed high priest assures it is a permanent fixture, a sign of their failure. The public is too ignorant to comprehend the ruin. They can only see the threat to their personal ruin.

The bankers are determined to ruin the entire system in order to retain power, all while dispensing increasingly nonsensical dogma like from heretical high priests about the effectiveness of their solutions. Theirs is heresy built upon alchemy laced with arrogance, with no precedent of success in past history. A definition of insanity comes to mind, offered by a psychologist who works in a clinical practice. Let's stick with the layman translation. Insanity is defined as repeating the same action but expecting a different result. So the USFed conducted QE, then QE2, then Operation Twist (a deceptive QE), now is set for QE3. It expects a different result from the rising costs and debasement of the currencies. Somehow by enlisting the cooperation of the Euro Central Bank, the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan, and the Swiss National Bank, together they can pull off QE3 in a veritable ongoing QE to Infinity when all previous efforts have failed to produce a solution or economic recovery. The high priests from the central bank altars do admit that liquidity does not address the insolvency ills, yet they hit the monetary levers and accelerators more quickly. The central bankers are in a panic, and it is beginning to show clearly. Their solutions solve nothing. They will next attempt to rule more formally over the ruins.

MONEY VELOCITY

Money velocity is going down as quickly as money supply is going up. This report card is a grand contradiction of the USFed actions for a generation. The American Weimar experiment is turning into a tornado of financial ruin with inadequate recognition. As industry was dispatched and forfeited to Asia, the USEconomy lost its base for traction. New money has lost its effect in producing economic activity following a series of asset bubble busts, a spinning of capitalist gears, now stripped gears. New money is devoted to the financial sector in perverse fashion, as a reward for the past destruction of capital itself. The central bankers cannot dictate the speed at which money moves. They can only create it and drop it in the mix, speak their incantations, sprinkle pixie dust, offer some loony fiat prayer to the duped public, and continue with the next paper dump. The Untied States will gradually achieve systemic failure from redoubled efforts, suffer debt default from inability to manage the debt structure, and fall into the Third World. The nation will experience the monsters of high prices and acute shortage without comprehension of its source. It is toxic money.

The growth of the monetary base has been staggering high since the financial crisis broke in September 2008 with the collapse of Lehman Brothers. Since the end of August 2008, the monetary base has risen from $877 billion to $2,651 billion as of September 2012. That is a giant 3-fold rise. Witness the American Weimar era, its final chapter. The massive increase in new money has done nothing to foster growth in the USEconomy. The main reason is that fiat paper money destroys capital, a concept the hapless corrupted US economists cannot comprehend, either from compromise to their masters or lack of intellect due to years of exposure to the ass backwards preachings. The USEconomy is stuck in a powerful recession based in grotesque insolvency and bond fraud. As the USFed is poised to kick in another round of QE bond monetization, the money supply will ramp sharply up again. Do not expect much of any economic benefit, since the cost structure will rise again, then shrink profit margins. This capital destruction factor is a great blind spot to the hack economists who operate more as marketing harlots for Wall Street and the USGovt than analysts and advisors. The Ponzi Scheme theory dictates that an acceleration in new money is required to keep a constant speed. Expect more wreckage from the stripped gears of the USEconomic engine.

The money velocity chart shows a deadly decline since 1980, and a powerful decline since the 2007 outbreak of the absolute bond crisis. The new money is going to the big banks in bond redemption, derivative coverage, and Black Hole (Fannie Mae, AIG) fills under the USGovt supervision. The money is not finding its way into the USEconomy for further circulation. The plague is insolvency, soaked by endless applications of tainted money from central bank fire hoses. The velocity of money has been falling for years, in reflection of an economy that is not turning over much at all. Think of a car missing its cylinders, spinning its gears, burning itself out, going nowhere. The above chart serves as pictorial evidence that the root cause of ruined money was the war. In the current decade, the wars are endless. America chose war over industry. A fuller explanation is offered in the September Hat Trick Letter.

Three eras are worth identifying in my view. The Vietnam War era and its aftermath saw huge expansion in money supply, huge nominal income growth, and huge increases in price inflation. The USFed did not interrupt the expanded USGovt debt from reaching Main Street, simply put. For consecutive years, the Consumer Price Index rose over 10%, which led to big worker pay hikes. The result was that US corporations began to send industry overseas. It started with Intel going to the Pacific Rim. The money velocity fell, as income fell on a real basis. The climax event was China being given the Most Favored Nation status in 1999, which released the gates for foreign direct investment. China made a deal with the Wall Street devils that has yet to gain publicity. The hidden motive was for Wall Street firms to borrow the Chinese gold hoard from the Chairman Mao era, so as to continue the great gold suppression game that has bankrupted the Untied States and betrayed the nation. US and London bankers skimmed and stole the gold.

HOUSE OF SAUD STARTS TO UNRAVEL

More loyal Jackass wannabee followers will recall a story (repeated often) that on the Easter Sunday weekend of April 2010, a secret gathering of over 200 Arab billionaires convened in Abu Dhabi. They arrived in unmarked jets. My source was one of only two or three white faces in the crowd, invited by his clients. One result of the meeting was an accord struck between the Persian Gulf oil producers, led by the Saudis, to work toward a pact with Russia and China as protector of the gulf in return for financial cooperation, economic construction, and forward progress. The implicit message was that the Untied States would be phased out in the protectorate. In the balance would lie the Petro-Dollar defacto standard as victim. Events continue to this day in movement toward that end.

However, since the Syrian uprising, a new lethal element has entered the mix. Account will be kept brief, since so volatile and controversial. Just some bare notes. The Assad family in Syria has suffered some assassinations. Apparently, the Saudis had a hand in the killings. HezBollah has vowed retaliation. Their ties to Iran might be longstanding, but perhaps are exaggerated. My view is their home is in Lebanon. In August, Prince Bandar was assassinated. He was the Saudi head of security, and long-time ally to the USGovt. The Saudi regime is concealing his death, with outdated photos and false statements. They are working toward a transition. The House of Saud has been unstable from threats to the south in Yemen. It is unstable from internal threats tied to the fundamentalists. Although cooperation and respect has been shown between Riyadh and Tehran, the Bandar hit has created an entirely new environment. The Saudi regime with high likelihood is in its final months.

More importantly, the Petro-Dollar is losing its all important Saudi leg. Implications are vast. The US public takes the USDollar for granted, with almost no concept of FOREX exchange rates. If the House of Saud falls, when it falls, the impact crater will include the entire waistline of the USEconomy and its financial dog tail that wags it. The USGovt and its banker handlers have relied heavily upon the Petro-Dollar in general, and on the Saudis in particular, ever since Henry Kissinger signed an accord that governs over the grand surplus recycling back in the 1973-1974 era. Watch the Saudis convert USTBonds to Gold, then bug out of the desert to their new mansions in Southern Spain.

CHINA AS INTERMEDIARY AGAINST PETRO-DOLLAR

Reports swirl that China is attempting to act as intermediary in global oil transactions, for Yuan currency settlement. The rebellion globally is picking up momentum against the USDollar. The Petro-Dollar defacto standard is slowly unraveling. The denizens of the Untied States have no idea the ravaging impact of a lost global reserve currency. It will unleash price inflation when the USFed central bank is letting loose the monetary flood gates. This declaration is an act of financial war directed at the US by China. To fortify the rear flank, Russia has promised to meet all requests for crude oil made by China, with settlement in Yuan and Ruble currencies. Take the pledge as a protection from any sudden USGovt threat or retaliation. The Russia-China Axis is forming more clearly in opposition to the USDollar, the Syndicate behind it, the many Embassies that offer sanctuary for espionage, and the global rules that enforce its hegemony.

Crude oil payments are the critical core of global trade. The rest of global trade will follow in non-USDollar payments, all in time. Entire banking systems will gradually make a transition away from the USTreasury Bond in its reserves managements. The banking practices will follow the trade payment structures, as it should be. The profound effect on the USEconomy will be clear, as blame is shifted as usual to external factors, even to extremists. In reality the US is up against vengeful Cossacks and the angry Mongol Horde. The entire world is moving against the USDollar, seen increasingly as a toxic agent within their internal domestic systems. They see the lack of solutions, the spreading bank insolvency, the accelerated debasement of currency, and the corrupted grants of multi-$trillion banker grants. They are taking action in response. They are following the Chinese lead with the Russians acting as a quasi-Rasputin.

Gerald Celente reported in early September, On September the 6th of 2012, China officially announced that any country in the world that wishes to sell crude oil using its currency the Renminbi instead of the USDollar can do so. The following day September the 7th, Russia announced that the nation will sell China all the crude oil they need, no limitations whatsoever. They will not use the USDollar for their trade."

The claim by Celente is far reaching. The USDollar is dying a slow death. Its antagonists do not wish to speed the death process too rapidly, for fear of quickening the ravage to their own nations. They also do not wish to invoke the wrath of the USGovt, which since 2003 has enforced the USDollar as global reserve currency via its war machinery.

What China is offering is an intermediary clearing house role to sidestep the Petro-Dollar, where crude oil payments can be made in the Chinese Yuan currency. This offer is a financial act of war against the Untied States currency, where China will backstop all transactions. It is a violent offer to disrupt the USDollar. Look to see if any Saudi oil sales are settled in Yuan currency as alternative, even the Euro currency as expedient. The superpowers are openly attempting to isolate the USDollar, the clear victim to be the USEconomy, the land of consumption excess. The move is a tacit push of the US into an isolated place where it can very easily slide into the Third World.

MEXICO CUTS A DEAL WITH CHINA FOR OIL

Mexico is in the process to make concrete a major deal to sell crude oil to China, but not in USDollar terms. The Chinese declaration of financial war against the Untied States has reached both the northern border in Canada and the southern border in Mexico. To be sure, the Canadian oil is not sold outside the USDollar. But other factors are hard at work. The bulk of Athabasca oil produced from the oil sands in Western Canada (Alberta) output is directed to China, by way of the Vancouver ports owned 100% by China. In fact, the Chinese influence is so strong in the beautiful city on the Pacific coast that it has earned the nickname of Hongkouver. Some shallow analysts attribute a wayward motive to the decision by the USGovt to abandon the Keystone Oil Pipeline several months ago. The more realistic hidden motive was to assure the Western Canada oil output would be sent to China. The cutoff to the pipeline came with spurious official accounts, all quite humorous to the informed. The pipeline was abandoned to accommodate China, owner of significant USTBond holdings. They are the largest USGovt creditor. The tipping point was passed many years ago when the majority of USGovt debt was held by foreign creditors. Its consequence is vivid and unmistakable. The Untied States is converted into a colony, a killing field, as pathways are fashioned for entry into the Third World.

China through closed door negotiations is sealing deals to purchase Mexican crude oil without using USDollars as its trading currency. The Yuan is slowly moving toward global reserve status, not by a summit meeting and signed accord, but rather by numerous bilateral deals. Consider the bilateral swap accords signed by China with partners in Brazil, Japan, and elsewhere. The list grows, and beyond oil trade. As it does, the net is cast over the USDollar in isolation. Officials claim meetings were held with the Mexican Govt and PEMEX, the state owned oil giant. They are in progress with a brokered secret deal to purchase crude oil using currency means other than the USDollar. Expect a public announcement soon by Chinese Govt and PEMEX firms. In the past decade, China has planted seeds in trade while ignoring politics with numerous major players in global trade. The USGovt prefers the heavy handed financial banking games, backed by the heavy handed military maneuvers, all part of the sickening Full Spectrum Dominance that has blossomed in ruin. The Chinese have responded with an archipelago of trade pacts, best viewed as a Full Spectrum Encirclement of the USDollar. It cannot be conquered. So their plan apparently is to isolate it, to starve it, to let it suffer the Weimar consequences of its own high pitched debasement, and to permit it to become a Third World currency by default.

Over the past ten years with new trade agreements China has invested $billions inside Mexico. China has helped the Mexican Govt create jobs and has financially supported investments in the privatization of ports and infrastructure throughout Mexico. As the movement toward privatization of large sectors of its economy continues, China is in line to benefit from additional investments inside Mexico. Since the 2009 global economic crisis, Mexico's central bank has been quietly purchasing large quantities of gold. In fact, some of the recent boost in May for Mexico Central Bank gold holdings was gold purchased from Chinese sources. The gold sales belie a closer relationship building with Mexico on the southern US border. While the USGovt is occupied with the Mexican Govt on matters pertaining to gun running, to handling illegal immigrants, and to shielding vast narcotics sales, the Chinese are busily working on trade, with a gold foundation and crude oil blood system. Those are the stuff of a stable currency. Perhaps Mexican leaders are preparing for the imminent and unavoidable devaluation of the USDollar. In more practical terms, regard the movement as the collapse of the USDollar in a vast sea of liquidity, better identified as toxic fiat paper currency.

STRIKES HINDER GOLD OUTPUT

Not in sufficient focus is the radical impact on gold supply. The gold investment demand has been on a tear in recent months. A sinister effect has been realized from the vast QE bond monetization conducted by the USFed and its partners at the Euro Central Bank and the Bank of Japan. The effect is of rising food and energy costs. The impact is particularly hard felt in poorer areas of the world. The great majority of major gold and silver mines are located in the poorer nations. The labor strikes at mining facilities are as much based upon unsafe worker conditions as they are based upon a higher cost of living, centered on food costs. The workers need more to survive at home, as they provide more precious metal output that satisfies mining company production targets. The end result is lower output in pockets of South America such as Bolivia, but more importantly in South Africa. A whopping 39% of South African Gold production has been taken offline. The impact on global output will be seen in the next few quarters. The fast rising investment Gold demand will be met by a significant decline in Gold supply. Price pressures will force a much higher Gold price. But first comes the depletion of the COMEX, as its paper contract merchants continue to ply their trade. Their new specialty is stealing client accounts that stand ready for contract delivery. See MFGlobal and the JPMorgan thefts, all fully blessed by the tainted US Court system.

THIRD WORLD THREAT

The implications are vast. A lost Petro-Dollar standard would mean a grand shift in payment for oil transactions, the most important of all global trade. In the last 20 years, all has been turned upside down. A global phenomenon of a powerful nature has been at work since the Lehman Brother failure, the Fannie Mae adoption, and the AIG redemption in 2008. The entire world is losing trust in the USGovt and its financial institutions. Personal email exchanges cite a regular occurrence of US corporations not receiving return phone calls, and of open disrespect in Europe for American businesses. The debt rating agencies do their part in upholding the paper fortress walls, but they must over time deliver the downgrades. An important catalyst took place when the USGovt imposed trade sanctions against Iran. The result was angering US trade partners more than anything else, well, except for causing severe price inflation on the Iranian Economy. The movement in reaction has been swift by global trade partners, in establishing bypass routes for payment systems between nations. The workarounds against the SWIFT bank payment system have been remarkable. The climax will be the non-US$ payment system to emerge, with no centralization, complete independence, relying upon non-bank devices like mobile communications.

Another bypass event just hit the news wires. The Swiss-based Vitol is the latest oil firm bypassing the USGovt sanctions against Iran. They exploit a legal loophole in Swiss law, since the nation did not abide by the US-led sanctions, a notable resistance. Vitol boasts being the largest oil trader in the world. It buys and sells Iranian fuel oil, undermining Western efforts to choke the flow of flow of money to Tehran. In August alone, Vitol purchased two million barrels of fuel oil, used for power generation, from Iran and offered it to Chinese traders. The Vitol firm is not obliged to comply with a ban imposed in July by the European Union on trading oil. The tale of the cargo for Iranian fuel oil involves tanker tracking systems being switched off, frequent ship-to-ship transfers, and the blending of the oil with fuel from another source to alter the physical specification of the cargo. How crafty.

Global finical markets are acutely aware that oil trade outside the USDollar will rapidly destabilize the USDollar even further. With Russia and China having entered into an agreement to trade crude oil using their own currencies, the Mexican news of a Chinese oil deal has potentially devastating consequences. The eventual effect is that the USDollar will lose its prestigious reserve currency status. In the process, it will lose value gradually. My view is that the defense of the USDollar will lead to all major fiat paper currencies to implode, step by step, taking down the banking systems and economies of major nations. The prevailing currency will be what is used in global trade. All signposts point to Gold. A new global trade system is ready to be installed, based upon gold in special notes. The transition awaits further collapse of the current currency regimes, the further collapse of the sovereign bonds, and the further collapse of the banking systems, which all assures the collapse of the global economy.

The QE fallout by the desperate central bankers has been seen in fast rising demand for gold bars and gold coins. The phenomenon is primarily in the Eastern world but also in Europe. The American crowds remain transfixed on their dwindling paper assets locked in stock accounts, many not easily altered due to tax rules. They remain transfixed on home equity losses, in a mindnumbing effect that the Jackass described in years 2005 and 2006 and 2007. The American Home was not a hard asset at all. Since its value was largely determined by the mortgage loans and mortgage bonds, together with the vast network of devices like MERS among bankers and the hidden caches with slush funds at Fannie Mae. The entire criminal history of Fannie Mae has been safely buried under the USGovt roof. Ten years ago, people would laugh at comments that the largest and most powerful criminal syndicate was operating under the USGovt label. They do not laugh anymore, including my own family. They protect themselves with the real deal currency for storing life savings, GOLD. They will soon enjoy the benefits, safety, and efficiency of trade systems based upon GOLD also.

GOLD PRICE READY TO EXPLODE UPWARD

Gold market instability could be a tremor before a burst upward. The same appears true for the silver market. On a single day last week, JPMorgan dumped two years worth of US silver mine output in the form of paper silver supply on the COMEX market. The corruption went largely unnoticed. They defend the important $36 level. Volatility has returned to the Gold price. The current pause could be interrupted very quickly with a strong upward leg in both precious metals. The announced QE3 bond monetization program cannot be sterilized any longer. A powerful USDollar decline is imminent. As the USDollar reserve status is threatened, the gold price will zoom upward. Notice the occasional propaganda and basic lies regarding sterilization of new bond purchases. The USFed is fast running out of short-term USTBills to fund long-term USTBonds in the Quantitative Easing shell game that is more reminiscent of the Weimar Republic.

Fortunately for the USFed paper mache artisans, the American public is a lousy student of history and especially the concept of money, even the nature of economics and capitalism. The dumbing down of the public has reached a critical mass, but hope lies in the Gold sanctuary if people have any savings left after the busted bubbles and the parade of banners to join. They joined asset bubble parades instead of lines to enter factories. Across the world, an army of Gold soldiers is awakening after a 16-month slumber. They react to the stark awareness that QE not only ruins money, but its purpose is to redeem the toxic bonds owned by banks. The QE programs are not intended to bolster, stimulate, or fortify the economy. In fact, they render the USEconomy incredibly deep harm by raising the cost structure, reducing profit margins, wrecking business segments, and killing jobs. But the hard sell sure is fun to watch, as the central bankers squirm. The Jackson Hole conference was a gathering of buffoons without the clown suits. The public must seek refuge in Gold & Silver or face personal ruin.

The USFed mandate on inflation moves next to an absurd mandate on jobs. They will fail on both. Inflation will be permitted by the USFed central bank in order to produce jobs, in the most heretic and misguided folly ever seen in modern times. The 0% rate will stick until economic growth arrives, but it will never arrive, due to the damaging effect from the 0% rate itself. The dog's tail is eating the entire dog in a perverse reverse effect of modern alchemy. The USFed ignores all Weimar chapters, after having rewritten the Great Depression chapter. The nation emerged from the depression only due to the Gold Standard and ample industry. The nation has neither today, and will therefore plunge into a systemic failure. The Third World awaits. Watch for the pressure points of tens of thousands of gasoline stations and food supermarkets, certain to erupt as the frustration and disorder spread.

The response in the Gold price has smelled a QE3 in bond monetization since the summer months. The difference is that this time, unlike the deceptive Operation Twist, the bond purchases will be unsterilized with new money injected into the system. That is a Golden supercharge to recognizable inflation. A major intermediate reversal is underway, with a 1570 base, a 1780 top, which indicates a 1990 Gold price target. The kicker in the market is the broad mining industry strike, which extends from South Africa to South America. Gold supply will be inhibited. Expect some regrouping with a pause at the 1720-1770 area, as a critical consolidation takes place before a breakout that captures the world's attention. The right side handle is being formed, carved out. During this time, the doubters are tossed off the train. The new believers join. A recycle process is underway, as the monetary dumb are unloaded and new intelligent soldiers join the ranks. The renewal will permit a run over $2000. Once over 1800 price level, the 1900 resistance will be overrun like a paper fortress by angry mobs bearing torches and sticks. But in the meantime, a big battle is being waged at the right side handle, a consolidation before breakout. (2 images)

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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0) (Edited)

Nope.

Only when we lose our Empire and become isolated.

The E Money system collapses.....;}

See the Afghans for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-28   8:57:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Target = $1500.....Xmas.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-28   8:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Gold is a rough proxy for the CRB.

There will be/are World Riots anyway from this Current Price.

Anything above this, might as well take the Food/fiber/Metals off the Market.

None of the Bottom 99% has the cash.....;}

As the Global Shipping Trade has collapsed now. No Chinese Exmas boats for you!....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-28   9:49:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Stick to (government-manipulated) finance. You look somewhat intelligent regarding that mess, which is easy, with it being so corrupt and in the middle of collapse.

But as usual, when it comes to economics, you're just another idiot.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-09-28   12:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Capitalist Eric (#4)

Stick to (government-manipulated) finance.

Stick to the Fed Res....wonder how they handle Credit Contraction....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-30   9:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#4) (Edited)

Stick to (government-manipulated) finance. You look somewhat intelligent regarding that mess, which is easy, with it being so corrupt and in the middle of collapse.

But as usual, when it comes to economics, you're just another idiot.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

www.google.com/finance

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics

Political economy was the earlier name for the subject, but economists in the latter 19th century suggested 'economics' as a shorter term for 'economic science' that also avoided a narrow political-interest connotation and as similar in form to 'mathematics', 'ethics', and so forth.[2]

but economists in the latter 19th century suggested 'economics' as a shorter term for 'economic science' that also avoided Any mention of an Elite being able to call the shots.....and as similar in form to 'mathematics', and other science[2].

Which is of course the First Fallacy as Economics is nothing more than another Snake Oil Religion......8D

FIFY

LMFAO.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-30   9:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

Economics:

Oil/Energy will come in whatever quantity we demand.

LMFAO

Moron.

Economics:

Gold is limited, but it is not money, so it will not come in any quantity that we demand.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-30   9:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Capitalist Eric, All (#7)

Market Manipulation is not economics.

Class Warfare is not part of Economics.

Climate Change has nothing to do with economics.

Peak Oil is not happening either and Again has nothing to do with Economics......

Because Humans never run out of anything and are incapable of changing anything about this Planet.

Just keep coming, EC....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-09-30   9:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#4)

Stick to (government-manipulated) finance.

And stick to your Religion of Economics....;}

Up in your Ivory Tower....;}

How many sentences have we seen since 08 with the words:

'Economists' and 'Unexpected(ly) in the same sentence....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-01   10:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

Exhibit A for an Economic Priestess:

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Today’s Economic Problems Are a Hangover From the Financial Crisis: Sheila Bair (Part 2) By Bernice Napach | Daily Ticker – 2 hours 18 minutes ago

Today's Religious Parables Are a Hangover From the Pharisees' Crisis: High Priestess Sheila Bair

FIFY

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-01   10:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#4)

An Apostate, allowed in for the rubes who think opposition is allowed....;}

"So Yahoo Finance just decides to print this article now? So much for your crack news team. You are several years late when it comes to stating the obvious.

Of course Citi and its ilk should have been carved up. Of course we should re-institute something as close to Glass-Steagall as possible. Of course Big Banking should not have been given a free handout and have been allowed to keep crap on their balance sheets.

BTW, Citi was ultimately not broken up because Tiny Tim was friends with Robert Rubin, who wanted Pandit at the helm. As soon as Tiny Tim was in, he made sure Citi got to stay and Pandit got to run the show. These guys are all in cahoots with each other; it's just that simple."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-01   11:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

Economics: Oil/Energy will come in whatever quantity we demand. LMFAO

If that's all you know, then my initial observations were correct: you are a moron when it comes to economics.

Moron.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Oh, and you could post another 2000 replies to each point I make, and you'll not change reality by one dram.

You know just enough- on obviously manipulated finance- to be dangerous. But your supposed expertise on economics is based on willful ignorance. Like the vast majority of people, what you know, and what you think you know, are two very different things.

You're an idiot.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-10-01   16:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

If that's all you know

then you haven't been paying attention....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   10:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

If that's all you know, then my initial observations were correct:

And so ipso facto, your initial observations are In correct....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   10:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

you are a moron when it comes to economics.

Moron.

Thanks for the confirmation.

And so the above is False....;}

Nice Straw Man though....Great job on your part destroying your own construct....

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   10:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

Oh, and you could post another 2000 replies to each point I make, and you'll not change reality by one dram.

About 5 should do it....Thanx for the Leeway though.....

LMFAO.....keep comin....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-02   10:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

For all intents and purposes, Economists are Theologians.

Since all of our current answers to these Deep Questions about the Good Life are utter bullshit, and can not be anything other than utter bullshit because humans are operating in the dark about who they are and why they do what they do, then it makes a kind of perverse sense to believe that the more bullshit we pile up, the better things will be. That's what Robert Johnson seems to be proposing. And what about this Great Disservice To Mankind? Here's Johnson speaking at the start of the video below—

I think the economics profession was making tremendous money, tremendous money, consulting for the financial sector. And many of the theories were not what you might call investigation and illumination of how financial markets work. They were portraits painted like a marketing document for how finance needed to be unshackled, so the powerful could make even more money, and I think they did a great disservice to mankind, and we're cleaning up after that right now.

Marketing! Of course. No surprise there. Secular theologians conducting services at the Altars of Power.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-03   9:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

Remind me again — why do we need economists?

Why couldn't they be smoothly replaced with a motley crew of soothsayers, charlatans, accountants, stat-keepers, lackeys, self-serving asskissers and the like? That's what we've got at present. The only difference would be that we ennoble these typical human fools with the label "economist" now, but could do without that fantasy after eliminating the entire profession."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-10-03   10:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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